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Anyone kniw if this galaxy s phone has been overclocked and to what speed??
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I don't think it has been. Hope it will be as in going to be picking this up soon

I highly recommend reading this article. It describes everything about the hummingbird processor (Samsung Fascinates Processor) compaired against the snapdragon. This hummingbird sound like it has some potential for OC'ing. http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125

ritkit said:
I highly recommend reading this article. It describes everything about the hummingbird processor (Samsung Fascinates Processor) compaired against the snapdragon. This hummingbird sound like it has some potential for OC'ing.
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No offense but that link is worthless.
So far the benchmarks on GLBenchmark.com can let you compare any phones 3D graphics and it shows that the Captivate version of the Galaxy S completely destroys the competition in raw graphics power. I am more then sure that it was able to hit its 90Mt/s that your article said it could not hit!
From androidandme website.....
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy S features their new S5PC110 application processor which was announced last year. This processor contains an ARM Cortex-A8 core paired with a PowerVR SGX540 GPU
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It also goes on to talk about how powerful it is.
Here is a GPU comparison for some of the leading smartphones:
* Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7-14 million(?) triangles/sec
* Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8x50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec
* iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 7 million triangles/sec
* Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec
And for comparison a few consoles:
* PS3: 250 million triangles/sec
* Xbox 360: 500 million triangles/sec
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Now according to this information, Samsung is basically stating that it is 3x faster then the iPhone 3Gs. If you head over to GLBenchmark's website and compare the 2, the Samsung Captivate is double the speed of the iPhone 3GS in most of the test (especially the GLBenchmark Pro ES 1.1 CPU Skinning which is their most rigorous test form what I've seen).
PLEASE KEEP IN MIND that the results @ GLBenchmark look to be user submitted, so some of these people will run the test with tons of apps and programs running, while others will stop all programs to run the test. But its a good start to see what a phone can do.

Been ocerclocked to 1.2. They say in the captivate forums that if the right person gets ahold of it, it could b oc'd to 1.6
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Atrix has an 8 core GPU

Yep so I just found out that the atrix has an 8 core GPU thanks to the forum members below.
This seems amazing considering the SGSII has a quad core GPU

Check this out:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html

bigdog_nick said:
Check this out:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-2.html
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OMG 8 cores?
So it is better than the SGS2

8 core GPU

Seems like so. From what i'm reading just now, the SGSII has a Mali-400MP4 which is only a quad core. Wow, Nvidia you outdid yourself. lol

Why dont they advertise the 8 core GPU?

RacecarBMW said:
Why dont they advertise the 8 core GPU?
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probably cause not many people know or even care what it is and moto and att didnt see it as a selling point

Dang, and to think I was always of the opinion that the Galaxy S phones had more GPU power than my Atrix.. Damn you AT&T.

not surprised as it's a geforce core

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probably cause not many people know or even care what it is and moto and att didnt see it as a selling point
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well they advertise the dual core CPU

Says it supports 12mp primary camera?

The next tegra is a quad core cpu, 12 core gpu. Its going to be a monster.

RacecarBMW said:
well they advertise the dual core CPU
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that is always a big selling point in todays market

RacecarBMW said:
OMG 8 cores?
So it is better than the SGS2
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Holy Moly. 8 core GPU?
And the SGSII only has 4 core GPU?
The Atrix wins overall. No question about it.
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Extra cores do not necessarily translate to win. Tegra is awesome, but has its limits, which are far more apparent than in the new Galaxy 2, which appears to be the most powerful Android phone to date.

YAY! 8 CORE GPU! what ever that means? lol

as far as i know. the SGS2 oxynes or whatever its called is more powerful than tegra 2.
not my much tho.
however Nvidia has an advantage of Tegra zone. games specific to take advantages of the Tegra 2.
and that alone is way better than playing the same game the nexus S plays well only smoother.
this makes Tegra 2 a better GPU imho hands down. but not the most powerful.

jivemaster said:
Extra cores do not necessarily translate to win. Tegra is awesome, but has its limits, which are far more apparent than in the new Galaxy 2, which appears to be the most powerful Android phone to date.
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What drugs are you on? SGS II? The most powerful to date? No ways Laydee
The Atrix hasn't even shown its true colours yet. Wait till Gingerbread is released. This will be the REAL test.
Only then will it be clear whether Atrix or SGS II is the better handset.

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as far as i know. the SGS2 oxynes or whatever its called is more powerful than tegra 2.
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Its called Exynos, and NO, the reports out there peg the Tegra 2 to be better clock for clock.
Why do you think Samsung overclocked the Exynos to 1.2Ghz? To be competitive, because at 1Ghz it wasn't.
Samsung has won the Quadrant war for the moment, but lets see what the Tegra 2 overclocked to 1.2Ghz (unlock that bootloader damit!) and with AOS 2.3.3 can do. And the hardware war can't be won on just a SAMOLED+ screen thats still can't be viewed in direct sunlight, and is heavily pixelated at 4.3" & 800x480 resolution (I certainly prefer qHD).

The Geforce ULV GPU in the Tegra 2 SoC is based on the Nvidia Geforce 6 series GPU architecture from 2004.
Computer GPU's at the time where still using "pipelines" before introduction of "unified shaders" (those are easier to be called multi-core) with the release of the nvidia G80 GPU in late 2006.
Piplines architecture has dedicated instructions shaders (nvidia like to call them cores for marketing reasons and to piss off Intel!) for each of pixel and vertex processing tasks. A GPU of this kind can't help itself if the load was heavier at one side of those tasks.
Where in "unified shaders" architecture those shaders can morph to handle any instructions tasks based on the load.
So it's more correctly to say the nvidia GPU in the Atrix has 8 shaders, But and it's a big BUT.. 4 of them must be preserved for the pixel processing and the other 4 must be preserved for vertex processing.

video performance

Hi, can anyone point me in the direction of the CPU/GPU specs for this, I know it isnt tergra so it might actually be able to handle some decent video specs.

most say that its the ti omap 4 series processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP#OMAP_4
as there is only one model @ 1ghz in the 4 series, its the OMAP 4430
CPU 1-1.2 GHz Dual-Core ARM Cortex-A9
GPU PowerVR SGX540 @ 304 MHz
thats my guess

I want it!!!!! That's the gpu in my epic and it still tops smartbench 2011 in gaming performance!
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xopher.hunter said:
I want it!!!!! That's the gpu in my epic and it still tops smartbench 2011 in gaming performance!
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actually in epic its clocked to 200mhz and in the latest omap processor the sgx540 is clocked to 300mhz i have it in my optimus 3d and its the fastest GPU right now in a smartphone!

That extra 100mhz will go towards driving the extra resolution on the screen so your optimus 3d most likely will still be slightly better than the fire but should be the same as my epic
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shame its not going to have HDMI as those specs should be able to play FULL HD in High profile, still well with the money if we can get some decent cooked ROMS, definately keeping an eye on forum.

As the Archos 80 G9 has proven, the 4430 can play hi def video well, but Archos made special drivers to support the codecs. I doubt the Fire will have them. Higher def vid plays weak on the Droid 3 and Playbook. Especially MKV 720p.
That all said, what is the point, since no storage space? Unless going to store a few vids, there is only a few gigs (literally) of open storage for media and no card slot.

Anyone think Samsung Should use Tegra?

Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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I hear ya!!!
I really miss my Tegra goodness...
Many will say that by using this or using that you can make Tegra games run on non-tegra devices, and that's partially true, however true Tegra graphics are much better...
There are many shader effects missing on those non-tegra devices.
I would really love to see a Tegra based Note (even though I know that would never happen)...

Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****

bamboo12 said:
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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Like most tegra 2 devices. I've used moto atrix, lg g2x, acer/toshiba tablets.
They just helping wuth androids biggest problem, fragmentation. This isnt a samsung processor issue, this is up to the developer. Think 360 vs ps3.
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Tegra processors are usually on the low-end of available options.
Eg/
SGS: Exynos 3110 = 170
Droid2 : OMAP 3630 = 160
NexusOne: QSD 8250 = 130
HTC prototype: Tegra APX 650 = 100
SGS 2: Exynos 4210 = 140
Sensation XL: QSD 8255= 130
Optimus 3D: OMAP 4330 = 120
Atrix 4G: Tegra2 = 100
SGS 3: Exynos 4412 = 130
*OMAP Skipped Generation* = N/A
Optimus 4X: Tegra3 = 110
OneS: Krait S4-dual = 100
By having early and direct access to their own manufacturing facility, Samsung can develop chips that are slightly faster than the competition and produce them at lower costs.
Apple tends to strongarm the market with early business deals and access to manufacturing facilities too, though not on Samsung's scale. Fortunately for Apple, they don't need the fastest, they need "good enough" at the cheapest price. Since iOS will run faster than Android, due to better and direct optimizations, Apple's offerings can consequently be even faster than Samsung's.

Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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I prefer Mali. So no.
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Rayan said:
Say all you want about Tegra being on the low-end side, but when it comes to gaming graphics they simply blow the competition out of the water!
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When it comes to the GPU, Nvidia are using competitive offerings.
For instance, the one in Tegra 1 (APX 650) was top-tier in its era, but not the best.
This is forgivable as they were new to the mobile market.
With the Tegra2, nVidia did offer a great chip.
It was about on-par/higher than the SGX540... but it was surpassed with the new drivers and higher clocked SGX540 from OMAP4470. And not to mention the quadcore Mali-400 (SGS2) that embarassed it.
With the Tegra3, there's nothing new.
They offer a gpu that was better than their competitors, but the competitors are rolling out their new gpu. Qualcomm with their new Adreno. Samsung with the T604. Omap with the SGX544mp4. In fact the new A5X gpu is superior to the Tegra3 gpu. Don't forget about the PS Vita either.
here's an interesting article: http://blog.laptopmag.com/tablet-chip-showdown-nvidia-tegra-3-vs-the-new-ipads-a5x
Soon, Tegra3 will be a "mid-entry" SoC, or even a "low-mid" one.
The only advantage the Tegra chips have is the TegraZone. Deeper integration of the software to the gpu, that's how nVidia levels the field.
So you are in fact incorrect. They don't blow the competition out of the water!
They fragment the competition, which I believe is wrong. I think that either nVidia must try harder (they're a friggin graphics company!!!) or that the TegraZone enhancements should be in the AOSP and give all competitors a chance to provide the best software (drivers producing, kernels processing, roms consuming) for their hardware.
With greater competition, the consumers win.

I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...

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I'd rather have the better Exynos processor than some crappy Tegra games which I might show off once and then never play again...
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+1,000,000 to this!
Tegra - no thank you!

bamboo12 said:
Samsung does use tegra, i had a galaxy tab 10.1 and it ran like dog ****
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That was Tegra 2. Tegra 3 on the HtC one x and Asus transformer prime flies.
So the myth that Tegra is slow has been shown by Tegra 3
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violentgoomba said:
I have not seen a side by side comparison but apart from the graphics, how many tegra games are really compelling? I have not seen a tegra game that made me wish i had a tegra device.
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Riptide GP...Samurai 2 THD, Shadowgun Tegra 3, Fruit Ninja THD, Bang bang racing Thd...i think are pretty good titles and offrr significant enhancements over the non thd versions.
I love my Note...but I do have to admit that a One X with the Tegra 3 has more game support and is faster.
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nvidia is a GFX Company. They'll pay for people develop stuff for their products.
Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
Blame the developer not the GPU itself.

blue13x said:
Hi,
One thing I havent seen many people talk about is the fact that S3/2 and the Note lack the Tegra SoC. I Kknow Samsung likes to use their own Exynos, but sometimes I hate the fact that I cant run those THD games which admittedly many are quality games. And.in some cases like Riptide and Shadowgun you do get some extra eye-candy over the regular versions. This is one area were the HTC One X wins I think....the ability to play those high quality THD versions of the game. Im also sure you can root and use chainfire, but sometimes I wish the galaxy line would use the Tegra 3 and have the widest game compatibility. For me this is the biggest downside to what for me is.the perfect phone.
Anyone feel the same?
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A few Samsungs run Tegras - they have piss poor performance, abysmal video decoding capability, etc. See Tab 10.1 as an example - the tegra2 in that is a POS compared to Exynos4.
NVidia is always first to up the core count but always delivers poor performance per core.
Similarly, the Exynos 4412 smokes the Tegra 3 when total system performance is taken into account.
It's kind of odd that the SoC that comes from a company whose specialty is GPUs is the worst in terms of 2D video performance (codec support) and average at best for 3D.
On top of that they use some funky texture compression format not compatible with anything else unless you use Chainfire 3D.

mdrjr said:
Tegra 3 is inferior to the Mali 400 MP. Ask the developer to make a version of their game using all Mali 400MP Features.
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No. The gpu in the Tegra 3 is slightly superior to the quadcore Mali-400, not a huge stretch.
But each "generation" nVidia have been the the inferior products, especially in the graphics components (irony?). However, they offset this because they're first to market.
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That's exactly right.
Its about the entire offering software AND hardware optimization, not one without the other.
I rather have a 1GB RAM and Tegra2 rather than 2GB RAM and Exynos 4410... just as long as the software is optimized (for instance, lower-level API support using Qt and Mainline Linux.... compared to higher-order virtual engine running on a inferior kernel).

I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.

tegra gets no love nowadays

Darfus said:
I think your arguments are all invalid. Especially on this forum.
Just install chainfire 3d pro and you can run all those THD games flawlessly and in real world performance mali blows tegra out of the sky.
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Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Rayan said:
Even though Chainfire allow us to run Tegra games, it does not do a good job emulating the shader effects present in the actual games. Games look flat and dull compared to the original.
Cheers!
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Plus it requires rooting. I prefer the support right out of the box.
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Better GPU adreno 320 vs Power SGX 543 MP3 of iPhone 5

Hi friendns,
better GPU ? adreno 320 or power sgx 543 MP3 of iPhone 5?
The clock for core and total clock?
the iPhone 5 no mini lags very smonth ,nexus 4 little lag why?
Thanks!

Optimization
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IPhone also has lower resolution so it pushes fewer pixels and the os is different and very simple like bb10 or wp8.
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Gokh said:
Optimization
Tapalked with a Nexus⁴
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^This. The N4 has the superior GPU but apps are very well optimised to take full advantage of iOS.
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IPhone also has lower resolution so it pushes fewer pixels and the os is different and very simple like bb10 or wp8.
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Benchmarks (which include off-screen tests so resolution doesn't matter) have shown that the N4 has the superior GPU. As stated above it's more to do with the app/game optimisation than the devices themselves. I don't think he means on the homescreen because my N4 at the very least has never stuttered here, but on occasion it does in games.
EDIT: See posts below, apparently I was wrong

The GPU iPhone 5 running @ 266 mhz for core have 3 core totally mhz ?
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The GPU iPhone 5 running @ 266 mhz for core have 3 core totally mhz ?
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Huh?
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I find it's normally crappy qualcomm governors that make games lag/jitter on android.
here are some very simple to apply settings...
ondemand, down_differential 30, up_threshhold 70 .. smooths everything out, app scrolling, games.. great on battery too.
also try to use a kernel without 'thalamos or whatever hotplugging mpdecision replacement' or you get that jitter effect at the end of scrolling screens when it slows to a stop.

Adreno 320 is the faster GPU but apple had iOS optimized for its CPU and GPU hence why its more smooth on games than Android since not all apps are optimized for it each CPU and GPU. Except the Nvidia's tegra and some games that have it optimized for Tegra.

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Adreno 320 is the faster GPU but apple had iOS optimized for its CPU and GPU hence why its more smooth on games than Android since not all apps are optimized for it each CPU and GPU. Except the Nvidia's tegra and some games that have it optimized for Tegra.
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Don't be silly Imaginations makes the best GPUs, the SGX normally trump the competition. It's important to note the SGX 6 aka Rogue is suppose to come out some time and it will be the proper competition for Tegra 4 & Adreno 330.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/2
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

Ace42 said:
Don't be silly Imaginations makes the best GPUs, the SGX normally trump the competition. It's important to note the SGX 6 aka Rogue is suppose to come out some time and it will be the proper competition for Tegra 4 & Adreno 330.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review/2
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood
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Evidently I was wrong in my earlier post. However, I'm certain I remember seeing some benchmarks which favoured the N4 on YouTube, perhaps they were done on a custom ROM/Kernel or something.

Try enabling "force GPU rendering" in developer options.
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probabily in 5s seem gpu s4 power sgx 554 mp4 the best at moment
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