i think i just installed a rom without rooting it,is that possible or im wrong?coz i when overclock it,it will automatic restart,and i cant complete( cd /data/app-private ) in emulator..and i think i havent backup the origanal android..so if i wan to flash back to stock is that possible..
justandroiduser said:
i think i just installed a rom without rooting it,is that possible or im wrong?coz i when overclock it,it will automatic restart,and i cant complete( cd /data/app-private ) in emulator..and i think i havent backup the origanal android..so if i wan to flash back to stock is that possible..
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You can't install a custom rom without root. You need busybox, SU and the root exploit to allow you to flash a custom rom. The reason the overclocking app doesn't work is because you don't have super user permission (part of rooting) and the stock kernel isn't scalable if I remember right. Point is no root no rom lol.
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sunder74 said:
Point is no root no rom lol.
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Are you kidding us?
justandroiduser said:
when overclock it
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you MUST have root access to overclock Milestone
All wrong!
You can install ROM whitout being root. All you need is just flash the Vulnerable Recovery.
Once you have it, you are ready to execute the OR update.zip and boom.
From there you can root it or not.
wisefreakz said:
All wrong!
You can install ROM whitout being root. All you need is just flash the Vulnerable Recovery.
Once you have it, you are ready to execute the OR update.zip and boom.
From there you can root it or not.
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absolutely correct..rooting the device is independent of updating the Rom..
I do keeping on changing roms without root.
wisefreakz said:
All wrong!
You can install ROM whitout being root. All you need is just flash the Vulnerable Recovery.
Once you have it, you are ready to execute the OR update.zip and boom.
From there you can root it or not.
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That's what the op was asking (reference to scaling/overclocking)...you can't install a "custom" rom with a custom kernel, radio etc without root priveledges. Basic consumer handsets do not allow writing to the system partition(Hence the need for root. With the exception of ota updates or manual updates from the provider/manufacturer.)
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sunder74 said:
That's what the op was asking (reference to scaling/overclocking)...you can't install a "custom" rom with a custom kernel, radio etc without root priveledges. Basic consumer handsets do not allow writing to the system partition(Hence the need for root. With the exception of ota updates or manual updates from the provider/manufacturer.)
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Right on that my friend!!
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So if (when) I root my Nexus S, if I don't do anything except root it (no custom roms etc) will I receive all updates just like normal from Google no strings attached? In essence, it'll be the exact same process just superuser status, correct?
annndrewww said:
So if (when) I root my Nexus S, if I don't do anything except root it (no custom roms etc) will I receive all updates just like normal from Google no strings attached? In essence, it'll be the exact same process just superuser status, correct?
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In essence you are only adding two files, the .apk and the su file. I would think that you would still get updates, but just an educated guess.
The only way you'll lose updates is by flashing a custom ROM AFAIK. An update might break your root (not sure), but you should still get it.
Nah ... then if we flash our GNS with custom rom we can't update firmware directly from google ? It is reversable reversible ... it is ?
Kalimdor said:
Nah ... then if we flash our GNS with custom rom we can't update firmware directly from google ? It is reversable reversible ... it is ?
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You don't get OTA updates with a custom ROM, but you will if you flash back to a stock one.
I am not sure you can install ota updates with custom recovery either right?
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brian6685 said:
I am not sure you can install ota updates with custom recovery either right?
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As long as you have a stock ROM, I think you can.
MaybachMan said:
As long as you have a stock ROM, I think you can.
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Don't the ota updates install through the phones recovery? If it's not the stock recovery, how would it work? Maybe I am wrong though
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brian6685 said:
Don't the ota updates install through the phones recovery? If it's not the stock recovery, how would it work? Maybe I am wrong though
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Just did a Google and apparently you can download the OTA update but not install without a stock recovery. I assume you can then install it "manually" with your custom recovery.
MaybachMan said:
Just did a Google and apparently you can download the OTA update but not install without a stock recovery. I assume you can then install it "manually" with your custom recovery.
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I think you can only install the ota from stock recovery also because of the way it is signed. Although I am sure someone will come up with a flashable zip as soon as, if not before, there is an update. So I would not worry
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Universal androot didn't work, z4root didn't work, superoneclick failed and its starting to drive me insane enable root access is hidden from the hidden menu please help thanks in advance
Sorry if it has been posted somewhere else I searched but I couldn't find anything to help
Hi, what ROM did you used?
If you're using custom ROM, not stock ROM, it has already root.
nope im trying to root my friends phone for him he's on stock rom. i have rooted lots of other phone with superoneclick without any roblems but this ones a bit tricky :\
I'm afraid that you will have to flash custom ROM into it.
How can I flash a custom Rom onto it if its not even rooted?
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dmcb123 said:
nope im trying to root my friends phone for him he's on stock rom. i have rooted lots of other phone with superoneclick without any roblems but this ones a bit tricky :\
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Joestone has made a brief tutorial about how to root gt540 on Modaco.
Have you check his thread and try his method.
Here is the link : http://android.modaco.com/content/lg-gt540-optimus-gt540-modaco-com/319174/root-lg-gt540-with-1-click-running-2-1-os/
nope that didnt work either :\ thanks though
dmcb123 said:
How can I flash a custom Rom onto it if its not even rooted?
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I have an ulity for root, I can send it to u when I get home...
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You DO NOT have to root the GT540 to install Custom ROMs. You will need to flash a "Fastboot ROM" to install Recovery and Custom ROMs. There are plenty of guides here and on MoDaCo on how to flash custom ROMs. If a guide tells you to root your phone before flashing a ROM, don't. You don't have to.
Hope it helps,
Jack
JackG256 said:
You DO NOT have to root the GT540 to install Custom ROMs. You will need to flash a "Fastboot ROM" to install Recovery and Custom ROMs. There are plenty of guides here and on MoDaCo on how to flash custom ROMs. If a guide tells you to root your phone before flashing a ROM, don't. You don't have to.
Hope it helps,
Jack
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well that changes things thank you so much, all the other phones i have messed with needed root before you could flashh roms so i assumed it was the same here thanks again
dmcb123 said:
well that changes things thank you so much, all the other phones i have messed with needed root before you could flashh roms so i assumed it was the same here thanks again
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No problems mate, It's just the GT540 differs from the rest in this case. I still stick to my views and think every phone should have an unlockable or already unlocked bootloader, Where no flash or w/e is necessary lol
Jack
I can't find a simple answer on this. I just want to root my stock ROM, can't be done without unlocking the bootloader, but will I lose OTA if I do that.
Thanks
You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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Sweet. I have root, stock recovery. no problemo
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You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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There was another thread on here about the same topic where someone said that even with a custom recovery you can install the update and that CWM will ask if you want to keep root after installing the OTA.
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You won't get updates if you have a custom recovery. Rooting it will not deny you updates.
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What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
ace7196 said:
What?
You get updates with a custom recovery.
I use CWM. I got an update, said install, CWM popped up, installed it, and asked if I wanted to keep root and the custom recovery. I said yes, and magic ensued.
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Confirmed. You do get updates when using CWM.
Install "OTA Rootkeeper" and you will keep your root after updates.
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sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Seems so.
it is phone encryption gonna work after root?
yes, no reason why not?
ultimul said:
sorry about re-questioning this:
I only want to root just to be able to use titanium backup to move data from one phone to another; are the OTA still gonna work? I dont intend to flash any custom rom for the moment.
thanks.
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Hi Ultimul, did you try rooting finally and are you receiving the OTA after rooting and with CWM.
Advice me as I have the same ambition to root just to back up app data but not install custom rom.
Will I get updates from Google. if I root my Nexus 7 and i'm on a custom ROM?
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Will I get updates from Google. if I root my Nexus 7 and i'm on a custom ROM?
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On a custom rom No. Rooted running stock you will get updates dont make the same mistake i did when running stock and delte custom apps just freez them
Next time pal post in the q&a for subjects like this and have a search
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You will successfully get an OTA if...
You're using the stock kernel
You have not renamed/deleted/mangled files in /system
You have not installed garbage like Beats etc which modify libraries
You have not screwed with your framework to bling it
ie: YOUR ROM IS STOCK
You STILL get, and apply an OTA, if you have..
Unlocked your bootloader
Rooted your device
You're using a modern CWM or TWRP
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You STILL get, and apply an OTA, if you have..
Unlocked your bootloader
Rooted your device
You're using a modern CWM or TWRP
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If you install a custom recovery you won't be able install the update naturally. You'll have to download the update and install from recovery manually.
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If you install a custom recovery you won't be able install the update naturally. You'll have to download the update and install from recovery manually.
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Good point, but it will install just fine. But yes, you have to boot into recovery and flash the OTA zip file.
Hello all. I just purchased a Note 3 that was originally an AT&T Note 3, but has been unlocked. So I am going to be using it for T-Mobile.
I'm going to be rooting it, so do I use T-Mobile ROMs after its rooted? And is there a certain method I need to use to root? Or is that universal? I've rooted phones in the past, but never an unlocked device, so I dont know what's different, if anything at all. Thanks for any help you can give.
You have to flash the ROM you want, and root after that.
If you root before installing ROM, the rooting will be override.
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You have to flash the ROM you want, and root after that.
If you root before installing ROM, the rooting will be override.
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Flash a ROM, and than root? Never had to do that before. Im used to rooting, than flashing lol
Syst3m Deadlock said:
Flash a ROM, and than root? Never had to do that before. Im used to rooting, than flashing lol
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Yes. The correct sequence should be: install custom recovery, install rom, root.
Some rom comes with pre-rooting so you may not need to root.
Because rooting is in the system partition. And when you install a rom, it will be install to the system partition too. So if you have root, new rom will override your rooting.
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Yes. The correct sequence should be: install custom recovery, install rom, root.
Some rom comes with pre-rooting so you may not need to root.
Because rooting is in the system partition. And when you install a rom, it will be install to the system partition too. So if you have root, new rom will override your rooting.
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Thank you, didnt know all that.
But since it is an unlocked AT&T device that will be running on T-Mobile, do I install AT&T or T-Mobile ROMs? Sorry if this sounds dumb, I've just never dealt with an unlocked device before.