Transfer Saved games? Replacement phone

Transfer Saved games? Replacement phone - Atrix 4G General

Well since i got this beast i have been gaming alot more. I had a bad one where everyone says i sound muffled. I got my new one today and its all fixed.
Since i game alot more i have some saved games i want to move to my replacement atrix. Anyone got any ideas? i am thinking titanium backup

That would be the easiest way. You could also copy the files out of /data if your comfortable with that.

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How can I save (or restore) the Bubble breaker highscore

Hi, in a nutshell I'm moving from WM5 to WM6. However, my wife is really addicted to bubble breaker (don't laugh) and she will kill me if I erase her high-scores (she played around 6,000 games so far, yes, that's six thousands)
So the question is, how can I backup or restore her bubble breaker highscore on WM6? Thanks!

let my mum play it and my uni came back broken

Im unsure
is there a way this would be quite cool, i find it harder on the uni than my old Ipaq I got 1,400 in one game on that in a lecture i made a well excided noise haha nearly died.

Worth getting now?

Hi folks,
I was wondering, is this phone worth getting now? Or has anyone heard of new phones looming over the horizon that are coming to T-Mobile?
I'm planning on getting this (paying full outright 450), but I would like to hear the wisdom of some of the older folks here first.
How bad are the problems as people seem to be posting about? Is there an audio delay on any sort of audio playback, or just mp4 streams?
Cheers.

PoisonWolf said:
Hi folks,
I was wondering, is this phone worth getting now? Or has anyone heard of new phones looming over the horizon that are coming to T-Mobile?
I'm planning on getting this (paying full outright 450), but I would like to hear the wisdom of some of the older folks here first.
How bad are the problems as people seem to be posting about? Is there an audio delay on any sort of audio playback, or just mp4 streams?
Cheers.
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The phone was worth getting on day 1... You need to do a little tweaking and you can't make a judgement on it in a day or two, you have to use it. I came from a blackberry, so it's a huge step up in the UI from that. If you're used to an iPhone or Android phone, it's not quite as good. You need to play with it, install some registry mods, CoOkie's Home Tab (or maybe a custom ROM).
I am very happy with this phone. I really wanted a Nexus One, but this phone does everything I want it to do without issue.
YMMV of course.

Hey Poison.
If you're comfortable with winmo, then I think it's worth the investment. Despite all the native (and mostly known) shortcomings of the OS, this is still by far the king of the hill when it comes to WM phones...and will probably remain so for a while at least.
A quick scan of the first 2-3 pages of this forum, as well as the euro Leo section will give you a digest of all the problems people are having, and most of them have a number of different potential solutions or workarounds to try.
I know there's people who have gotten frustrated enough with their HD2's to get rid of them already...but I don't think there's a single WM phone that hasn't polarized it's users that way. I for one have had essentially no problems at all, despite heavy and varied use (and I think there's a lot of others out there just like me)....but then again, I think I might be a little more realistic about what type of experience to expect from this OS, and Sense as well.
As far as your question about the music playback issues...they definitely exist for many users, even with just plain mp3's, but that's really just in relation to using the built-in HTC music player to play or index a large library of music. There's ways to work around that, including just using some 3rd-party player. Again, I've never had those types of issues even though I use the HTC player almost exclusively...also possibly just due to how I manage my music collection.
If you're adept, patient, and comfortable with getting your phone "dialed-in" just right, I think this will give you a user experience like no other. You've already got the most valuable tool in your arsenal...right here in these forums (as I'm sure you already know!)
Good luck, let us know what you decide!

Thank you sirphunkee. I appreciate the detailed response. I'm no stranger to Windows Mobile, as I'm currently using a Touch HD. I do love it and I've always loved that customizability about Windows Mobile. While I am aware that it is clunky as a mobile platform, I've always been viewing Windows Mobile as a desktop in my pocket rather than a phone.
I'm a little concerned about the whole screen issues (there was a thread about ghost presses, etc). How widespread is this? And is the supplied 16 GB microSD card really trash? This seems to really be the case when the SD card gets too full.
I'm still contemplating if it's worth upgrading...I've played with it in the store, and I was dumbfounded by the speed. Argh!
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Hey Poison.
If you're comfortable with winmo, then I think it's worth the investment. Despite all the native (and mostly known) shortcomings of the OS, this is still by far the king of the hill when it comes to WM phones...and will probably remain so for a while at least.
A quick scan of the first 2-3 pages of this forum, as well as the euro Leo section will give you a digest of all the problems people are having, and most of them have a number of different potential solutions or workarounds to try.
I know there's people who have gotten frustrated enough with their HD2's to get rid of them already...but I don't think there's a single WM phone that hasn't polarized it's users that way. I for one have had essentially no problems at all, despite heavy and varied use (and I think there's a lot of others out there just like me)....but then again, I think I might be a little more realistic about what type of experience to expect from this OS, and Sense as well.
As far as your question about the music playback issues...they definitely exist for many users, even with just plain mp3's, but that's really just in relation to using the built-in HTC music player to play or index a large library of music. There's ways to work around that, including just using some 3rd-party player. Again, I've never had those types of issues even though I use the HTC player almost exclusively...also possibly just due to how I manage my music collection.
If you're adept, patient, and comfortable with getting your phone "dialed-in" just right, I think this will give you a user experience like no other. You've already got the most valuable tool in your arsenal...right here in these forums (as I'm sure you already know!)
Good luck, let us know what you decide!
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PoisonWolf said:
Thank you sirphunkee. I appreciate the detailed response. I'm no stranger to Windows Mobile, as I'm currently using a Touch HD. I do love it and I've always loved that customizability about Windows Mobile. While I am aware that it is clunky as a mobile platform, I've always been viewing Windows Mobile as a desktop in my pocket rather than a phone.
I'm a little concerned about the whole screen issues (there was a thread about ghost presses, etc). How widespread is this? And is the supplied 16 GB microSD card really trash? This seems to really be the case when the SD card gets too full.
I'm still contemplating if it's worth upgrading...I've played with it in the store, and I was dumbfounded by the speed. Argh!
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No problem Yes, that's exactly the reason I stay with winmo too...still the closest thing to a pocket-portable PC that there is. In fact, if you do end up with the HD2, make sure you check out the various methods for remote desktop connections and control (there's a nice built-in client, and vnc and others), this screen is awesome when displaying your full PC desktop from anywhere you can connect
I'm still getting used to the capacitive screen to be honest, but I'm already to the point where resistive now feels "muddy", for lack of a better term. You'll definitely need to get used to holding your thumb a tiny bit higher off the screen surface than before...that's what leads to a lot of "phantom presses". It's also possible to dial-down the sensitivity a bit to get it where it's more comfortable for you. It shouldn't take you too long to learn what now constitutes a "touch" vs. a swipe or whatever.
I'm still using the stock 16GB class-2 card with 0 problems or lagging, but I honestly don't have it but half full most of the time...and I think a lot of the SD-related issues people are seeing are more due to Sense just being slow when accessing/indexing a large volume of files on the card....although the class-2 speed could certainly aggrivate that problem. I believe the issues arise when the card has a large number of files on it, rather than just when it gets full in terms of volume consumed. In other words...having just say 10 full-length movies on the card at 1GB each, won't likely cause the same slowdown as a card that's only "5GB full", but with hundreds and hundreds of smaller mp3's and other files.

Hmm, that's what I'm expecting as well. It's going to be a little awkward using a screen that doesn't flex a little when I push on it. By the way, when you flash ROMs, will you lose your unlock-status of the phone? Or will it be forever unlocked once you've unlocked it?
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No problem Yes, that's exactly the reason I stay with winmo too...still the closest thing to a pocket-portable PC that there is. In fact, if you do end up with the HD2, make sure you check out the various methods for remote desktop connections and control (there's a nice built-in client, and vnc and others), this screen is awesome when displaying your full PC desktop from anywhere you can connect
I'm still getting used to the capacitive screen to be honest, but I'm already to the point where resistive now feels "muddy", for lack of a better term. You'll definitely need to get used to holding your thumb a tiny bit higher off the screen surface than before...that's what leads to a lot of "phantom presses". It's also possible to dial-down the sensitivity a bit to get it where it's more comfortable for you. It shouldn't take you too long to learn what now constitutes a "touch" vs. a swipe or whatever.
I'm still using the stock 16GB class-2 card with 0 problems or lagging, but I honestly don't have it but half full most of the time...and I think a lot of the SD-related issues people are seeing are more due to Sense just being slow when accessing/indexing a large volume of files on the card....although the class-2 speed could certainly aggrivate that problem. I believe the issues arise when the card has a large number of files on it, rather than just when it gets full in terms of volume consumed. In other words...having just say 10 full-length movies on the card at 1GB each, won't likely cause the same slowdown as a card that's only "5GB full", but with hundreds and hundreds of smaller mp3's and other files.
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PoisonWolf said:
Hmm, that's what I'm expecting as well. It's going to be a little awkward using a screen that doesn't flex a little when I push on it. By the way, when you flash ROMs, will you lose your unlock-status of the phone? Or will it be forever unlocked once you've unlocked it?
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I think that sim-unlocking is retained even through ROM flashes, but let somebody else confirm that for you for sure

Phone is not worth getting, it should not even qualify as a smart phone, as it can hardly do the tasks or have any apps.
Its trash
As a "dumbphone" its fine, as a smart phone it is not, the pics/video , texting is fine . Those are the pros
Web browsing and web apps are terrible opera is bad on this phone, with about 20 tweaks you can make it better
A lot of registry editing to keep music files out of the music album library, battery pulls happen often with this phone.
Cleanram seems to help but not much , avoid using the file browser and going to the "windows " directory, takes about 6 or 7 min to load , and you cant do anything else while it works on it

Having gone through the Apache, Titan, Hermes, Samsung i325, Blue Angel, and i900 Omnia, the HD2 is definitely worth upgrading to. I was debating the Omnia II and X1, but decided that ultimately any investment I made would effectively be dead money if I got anything that wasn't the HD2, since it's the only handset currently on the market that has the full featureset I want.
Funnily enough, I've found the stock ROM to be fantastic. Tried a few cooked ROMS (Including Kumar's) and didn't find any of them to my liking, having just come from some REALLY nice lite Omnia ROMs. Once the stock ROM is cleaned of the unnecessary T-Mobile bloatware, it's great, even with the 6.5 UI vs. 6.5.3 and up.
Yes, SIM unlocking is retained regardless of which ROM you flash. Hard SPL depends on whether you're flashing cooked or stock.
Re: problems:
- Firstly, this is a WinMo phone. No kidding. I didn't buy this NOT to tweak practically every element in some form. If I'd wanted a phone that didn't encourage tweaking, I'd have bought an iPhone, and I'd have been bored with it in a month or so when I couldn't change the UI elements on a daily basis (And probably hurled it against a wall for making me taint my music collection through the use of the horror known as itunes). If people can accept WinMo for what it is, with both its weaknesses and its strengths (Mainly its strengths - I've messed with iPhones and Android, and I guess I'm just used to doing what I want with WinMo), then the HD2 gets my full recommendation.
But I assume you're the sort that likes to tweak everything left right and centre anyway, else you wouldn't be here. Heh!
- Sense UI! It's a new one for me, coming straight from Titanium, which I loved. Previously tried M2D and hated it, yet Sense has grown on me. I've not had any crashes (Except when I installed a few incompatible themes and tweaks), and it can be nigh-endlessly customised. While I like Titanium's 'everything at a glance' factor, the Sense tabs are more functional the the Titanium panels, effectively being applications in and of themselves. It's pretty too.
- Giant screen is pretty much unparalleled, it's excellent for browsing. Don't tend to watch videos on the go, so I can't vouch for its qualities there, but I'd imagine it's great. Bet it'd chew the battery tho'.
Don't think I could go back to a resistive screen now - as mentioned, they feel kinda 'muddy' and soft in comparison. Capactive's sensitivity takes a little getting used to, yet it's a winning trade-off when you don't have to press everything five times to make sure it's actually lauching.
- Music library is one of the few issues I have had. It'd take a while for the Sense music tab to open up with 10 gigs of music on the SD card - I've had zero issues with the SD card itself. Fixed it by putting a shortcut to Audiomanager in the Startup folder - just takes a minute after a restart to rebuild the library, which is a non-issue since I only have to restart if I've installed a application that demands I do so (Or if I want to look at my pretty BIOS/Windows Seven bootscreens!).
- Battery life! Well, what do you expect, with that huge screen and 1GHz processor? No real change there, I was used to charging my phone all night and being down to 50% after a day. It really helps to try flashing different radios, though, make sure you give each a full day's testing to find the best for your area. Selecting the right radio made a huge improvement to battery life and 3G speed for me.
The other factor that a lot of people seem to be basing their purchases on is the potential for the HD2 to run WP7. Now, I'll be honest, and say that was part of my reasoning - I don't 'expect' it to happen, but if it does, I want in on that action.
digitallysick said:
Phone is not worth getting, it should not even qualify as a smart phone, as it can hardly do the tasks or have any apps.
Its trash
As a "dumbphone" its fine, as a smart phone it is not, the pics/video , texting is fine . Those are the pros
Web browsing and web apps are terrible opera is bad on this phone, with about 20 tweaks you can make it better
A lot of registry editing to keep music files out of the music album library, battery pulls happen often with this phone.
Cleanram seems to help but not much , avoid using the file browser and going to the "windows " directory, takes about 6 or 7 min to load , and you cant do anything else while it works on it
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"Hardly do any tasks"? Seriously? What tasks have you tried? And as for having apps, have you..checked the HD2 apps forum? This thing runs PSX games like a charm.
Used to take forever to open the Windows folder on my Titan and Apache, the HD2 loads in 1-2 seconds. No problems there. What do you have installed that could be lagging it that much?

digitallysick said:
Phone is not worth getting, it should not even qualify as a smart phone, as it can hardly do the tasks or have any apps.
Its trash
As a "dumbphone" its fine, as a smart phone it is not, the pics/video , texting is fine . Those are the pros
Web browsing and web apps are terrible opera is bad on this phone, with about 20 tweaks you can make it better
A lot of registry editing to keep music files out of the music album library, battery pulls happen often with this phone.
Cleanram seems to help but not much , avoid using the file browser and going to the "windows " directory, takes about 6 or 7 min to load , and you cant do anything else while it works on it
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There must be something wrong with your phone or you have something installed thats causing all those issues. I haven't had any problems. This has been the fastest and most stable phone I've owned.... and this is my 8th WinMo device.

digitallysick said:
Phone is not worth getting, it should not even qualify as a smart phone, as it can hardly do the tasks or have any apps.
Its trash
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Web browsing and web apps are terrible opera is bad on this phone, with about 20 tweaks you can make it better
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Pure subjective opinion, and unfounded. I run the stock install of opera, not a single tweak, and it's still the best winmo web browsing experience I've ever had (and I've used every one you can name over the years). No lags, no hanging, landscape and multitouch flawlessly.
digitallysick said:
A lot of registry editing to keep music files out of the music album library
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Not true, it takes all of 30 seconds in Total Commander.
digitallysick said:
battery pulls happen often with this phone
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In the 3 1/2 weeks I've had the phone, I've only had to do a forced-hardware-soft-reset 3 times.
digitallysick said:
Cleanram seems to help but not much , avoid using the file browser and going to the "windows " directory, takes about 6 or 7 min to load , and you cant do anything else while it works on it
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I've never had it take a full 7 seconds to load the windows folder.

digitallysick said:
Phone is not worth getting, it should not even qualify as a smart phone, as it can hardly do the tasks or have any apps.
Its trash
As a "dumbphone" its fine, as a smart phone it is not, the pics/video , texting is fine . Those are the pros
Web browsing and web apps are terrible opera is bad on this phone, with about 20 tweaks you can make it better
A lot of registry editing to keep music files out of the music album library, battery pulls happen often with this phone.
Cleanram seems to help but not much , avoid using the file browser and going to the "windows " directory, takes about 6 or 7 min to load , and you cant do anything else while it works on it
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Wait, isn't this the guy who was bragging about having got rid of his HD2 and moved back to Blackberry? Wonder what he is doing back in a forum dedicated to HD2...
This guy is clearly trolling. All of his posts lately seem to be geared negatively toward a device he claims to no longer own. Here he is attempting to influence someone by posting "facts" that are not true. I don't think he has anything positive to offer the readers in this particular forum and I would appreciate it if you checked his last 20 posts, you might find some interesting tidbits.

For those of you who are having trouble with browsing the Windows Folder, use Resco Explorer instead. File Explorer is a sorry excuse for a program. With Resco Explorer, I can open the windows folder in 6 seconds on a Touch HD, and that is a phone with a mere 528mhz processor.
Having said that, I'm still having a very tough time trying to justify this purchase to my conscience.

PoisonWolf said:
For those of you who are having trouble with browsing the Windows Folder, use Resco Explorer instead. File Explorer is a sorry excuse for a program. With Resco Explorer, I can open the windows folder in 6 seconds on a Touch HD, and that is a phone with a mere 528mhz processor.
Having said that, I'm still having a very tough time trying to justify this purchase to my conscience.
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You get a full two weeks to try it out

PoisonWolf said:
Having said that, I'm still having a very tough time trying to justify this purchase to my conscience.
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Would you have to pay full price for the phone?
The reason I ask is because you can generally find it at the same price as other smartphones. For example: At T-Mobile, both the Touch Pro 2 and the HD2 were the same price ($199 w/2y).
Even full price it is comparable to others like the Nexus One and the iPhone.
If you were planning to purchase a new smartphone, these are the prices you are going to be dealing with.
Oh, and I bought the TP2 a full week before I bought the HD2. It was very hard to convince my wife that this was something I had to have Even though I sold the TP2 at a profit that same day, we had to work out a deal where she got a kitchen gadget she had been looking at for a while

Gameloft's Order & Chaos does indeed run on the Evo

Just in case anyone else is interested. I was disappointed to find that the Evo is not supported by Gameloft's recent release of Order & Chaos so on a whim I tried to see if it would really run on my Evo (CM7) via the following steps and...it runs! It seems fairly playable, in fact. The framerate is not super smooth but it's passable. I haven't gotten into any big battles yet so maybe other parts of the game will not work as well; I guess we'll see.
I first shutdown my Evo.
I logged into my Google account on my wife's Evo Shift and bought the game via Market.
I started the game to download the ~600 MB of game assets.
I backed up the game via Titanium Backup and transfered the backup and the game assets to my Evo. (The game assets live in /sdcard/gameloft/games/GloftMMHM.)
I then restored the backup onto my Evo, started the game, created an account, and started playing.
It seems the the Evo is getting too long in the tooth for the last few Gameloft titles. But here's a little much-appreciated victory. Maybe this will cheer up someone else, too.

Quick question. I was planning on doing some game reviews for Android once I received my Evo 4G. Do you know of anyway to force this to appear in the Market? I've been away from the scene since I dropped my Samsung Moment months ago and I don't have any device that supports it. I'd rather not have to "find alternate ways of obtaining" this game just to do a review. I know not to expect great performance, since I'm assuming it is actually graphics bottlenecked (since the Evo Shift 4G is supported). However, I'd really only be recording glimpses of gameplay. HDMI out on the Evo is really important for recording game footage for reviews (I have an HD capture card) so it was obviously my first choice since I'm stuck on Sprint.
Is there like a modified Market available? Or is it possible to use a Market from another device like say an Evo Shift 4G?

Gah, my account was set up not to notify me of replies by default. Sorry for the delay.
SNYPE2K9 said:
Do you know of anyway to force this to appear in the Market?
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Yes. In short, you need to edit your /system/build.prop file. There are apps on Market that allow you to do this (or you can also use adb shell if you're comfy at a Linux prompt).
Find the lines for ro.product.name and ro.product.device and change the supersonic portion to speedy then reboot. Order and Chaos will now appear in Market thinking you're running the Evo Shift. When you've installed/updated the game, change the lines back and reboot again.
I haven't had any issues with this method but you're probably best off backing up your phone before messing with that file. In app purchases *usually* still work but not always (seems to come and go and it doesn't correlate with app version updates so I'm not sure what's going on there). The game runs pretty well on the Evo I have to say. The view distance where enemies and terrain fade in at is not all that far out but it rarely trips me up and I've logged a couple dozen hours in this game on my Evo so far.

xperia play build quality

hi all,
After reading plenty of reviews and all the youtube videos, i am now so close to buying an xperia play, but just a few questions that i need clarifying..
1. whats the build quality like of the game pad?
2. are the analogue pads that bad? or it just the games?
2. anyone here that has had the xperia play for a while.. how do the buttons feel after excessive usage? still the same as when u bought it or they dont feel as good.. im the sort of person that goes a bit mad with the buttons when playing games like marvel vs capcom and as i will be keeping the phone for a very long time, i wanna make sure the phone gamepad can last as long as a normal ps3 pad!
3. how well do the games play? how they play from factory stock android and are there improvements when removing the bloatware software.. really hate that timescape crap! improvements when upgrading to 2.3.3
4. sd card? which is the best class to buy 32gb?
thanks

vegeta2007 said:
hi all,
After reading plenty of reviews and all the youtube videos, i am now so close to buying an xperia play, but just a few questions that i need clarifying..
1. whats the build quality like of the game pad?
2. are the analogue pads that bad? or it just the games?
2. anyone here that has had the xperia play for a while.. how do the buttons feel after excessive usage? still the same as when u bought it or they dont feel as good.. im the sort of person that goes a bit mad with the buttons when playing games like marvel vs capcom and as i will be keeping the phone for a very long time, i wanna make sure the phone gamepad can last as long as a normal ps3 pad!
3. how well do the games play? how they play from factory stock android and are there improvements when removing the bloatware software.. really hate that timescape crap! improvements when upgrading to 2.3.3
4. sd card? which is the best class to buy 32gb?
thanks
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Hi Mate,
First of all, I love my xperia play, really good phone and great for gaming. FPSE has made this phone for me now, massive choice of games, really cheap too as you can pick up 2nd hand psx games.
My issue with the reviews is that they compare the device to the top end stuff - SGS2, HTC sensation and Moto atrix. Its not that type of device, its all about gaming. The reviews seem to be down on the phone from the off due to the specs (low internal storage and slower than the best cpu). Anyway thats the rant...
1 (and the second 2.) Build quality - Seems a bit cheap and plastically compared to my old HTC desire and the htc sensation. However after 4 months of gaming and general use (i'm very clumsy with my phones and tend to drop them and scratch them all the time) It is still in very good nick, The plastic seems to take punishment a lot better than my old HTC. There are no visible defections and everything is working great - the game pad is still perfect and still feels new - it does pick up dirt pretty easy but I've never felt it affect the touch controls. I button mash a lot and everything feels great and still very responsive, I never feel like I need to be gentle and have gotten stressed a few times when losing a game on fifa and mashing the keys.
2. The pads are brilliant in my opinion, takes a little bit of getting used to in terms of not having any feedback when you push one way or the other. Main issue is the games - FPS has a massive lack in terms of how its controlled. Swiping is annoying but works, push to turn is good but can be too sensitive and hard to target from my experience - it will be a learning curve I'm sure.
3. The games are excellent. The ones that are optimized work smoothly and I've never had an issue with slow down apart from when the phone overheats (normally after 2+ hours or usage/gaming and whilst charging) Even then it was still usable. Some gameloft games aren't that good, its a bit annoying but most are great, its the best experience I've had on a phone, comparable to a psp/ds. Updates have made the phone better and better, then rooting and removing bloat have made it the perfect phone. Everything is instant, no waiting, much better than my HTC Desire, plus I never fill up my internal storage so I have no worried about installing other stuff
4. From what I've read its better to go for a class 6 or 4, but I've not tried a 32gb card yet. Class 10 is good for data transfer but not playing games etc. But I dont have any experience with it as of yet

1. Phone's quality and design is awesome, I love it. The gamepad is very accurate, similar to a PSP one, something you would expect from Sony.
2. It will take a week or so to get used with, after that, it's a piece of cake to play with them.
The other 2. It feels the same, it's also somehow not that fragile as it looks.
3. I have the SD card full of games => almost all HD, never lagged; I also updated to 2.3.3 and all remained the same. Timescape widget is kinda' cool, you'll see.
4. Class 4. Detailed thread about SD card for XPlay here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129749
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Geeve said:
1. Phone's quality and design is awesome, I love it. The gamepad is very accurate, similar to a PSP one, something you would expect from Sony.
2. It will take a week or so to get used with, after that, it's a piece of cake to play with them.
The other 2. It feels the same, it's also somehow not that fragile as it looks.
3. I have the SD card full of games => almost all HD, never lagged; I also updated to 2.3.3 and all remained the same. Timescape widget is kinda' cool, you'll see.
4. Class 4. Detailed thread about SD card for XPlay here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129749
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Lol, I win

Any felt the need of sd card yet?

I'm thinking of buying LG Nexus 4 but before that i wanted to ask people whether they felt the need to have an extra card slot for the phone. Also how much out of 16 GB is available for personal use...any general comments about the phone itself would be helpful...
Cheers!

shad0wboss said:
I'm thinking of buying LG Nexus 4 but before that i wanted to ask people whether they felt the need to have an extra card slot for the phone. Also how much out of 16 GB is available for personal use...any general comments about the phone itself would be helpful...
Cheers!
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I think about 13 was available? A quick google might answer that question more precisely I'm not using the phone for music or lots of movies. I don't expect to run into difficulties in that area.

16gb is plenty,
NEXUS 4 USER

To be honest, 16GB is too much space for me. I have around 1.3 gigs of my dev stuff, some apps (NFS Most Wanted People complain all the time about how they need 32/64GB of storage but the only reason I can think of needing that much is for music and movies. You can stream those as well so it's not a big deal.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

16GB is probably enough for most, but you can always get a wifi storage device if you need more.
i just bought a pqi air drive and put a 32GB class 10 sd card in it for movies/ music etc.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/PQI-...orage-to-Smartphones-and-Tablets-254927.shtml
also check out the Ravpower wireless drive.
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower®-Wireless-Drive-For-Smartphones-Lightning/dp/B00AQUMZRA

First of all, I don't own nexus 4 but a galaxy s3 with expendable micro sd slot. But I do want to get nexus 4 as well!!
From my personal usage, 16gig is simply not enough. I play lots of heavy games most of them from gameloft, each will take >1gig space and I do shot pictures videos and have tons of other applications installed as well.
I put videos, pictures and musics on sd card but still, only 2.3gig left on internal storage.
I know maybe vanilla android will be smaller than touchwiz but considering >10gig video and pictures that I have, 16gig just won't be enough .
Of course, you may not be like me and can use cloud storage. In the end, it's how you use your phone for the most, and regardless nexus 4 or other phones, it will be the same.
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I've not installed any games yet, but I imagine once I do, the space will begin to go quickly. Music I'm less worried about, I stream mainly from YouTube etc. Video recording will be interesting though.
I would have preferred an SD card option, just because it's a fallback. An SD model would have probably convinced me to go for an 8GB N4, but no SD meant I had to go for the 16GB one.
The lack of OTG on this phone is a worry, but at the end of the day, considering the relative ubiquity of WiFi/3G internet in most developed countries, I don't think it's a big problem for streaming video, music etc, so really it's just games and what not that might be the struggle. I'm thinking of setting up a dropbox, (First time for me) which would be good for videos, and music and what not. I'm just not convinced of the price thats all. 2GB isn't very much, and as I have a pretty unlimited web server I could take advantage of that.

h.han said:
First of all, I don't own nexus 4 but a galaxy s3 with expendable micro sd slot. But I do want to get nexus 4 as well!!
From my personal usage, 16gig is simply not enough. I play lots of heavy games most of them from gameloft, each will take >1gig space and I do shot pictures videos and have tons of other applications installed as well.
I put videos, pictures and musics on sd card but still, only 2.3gig left on internal storage.
I know maybe vanilla android will be smaller than touchwiz but considering >10gig video and pictures that I have, 16gig just won't be enough .
Of course, you may not be like me and can use cloud storage. In the end, it's how you use your phone for the most, and regardless nexus 4 or other phones, it will be the same.
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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I m coming from SGS3 16Gb+32Gb mem card.
And I had to adjust. I have some music (had to choose what I m not listening to too often, haha).
About 1.5 Gb of nandroid+5/600 mb of rom and flashable stuff.
I ve had to stop walking around with whole seasons of TV, that s for sure But it's doable.
In the end, no matter how much space you do have, it ll get filled up with things that you don't actually need, so that s OK to pick and chose I ve got to say that I m not having any issue thinking about apps or not, I just get all in there and it fits!
So that s my experience, all in all, you have to think how to adjust, cause you ll have to do so.
Also, cloud storage? I ve got 1.8 Gb of data/month on my plan so yeah, that won't work. Since it s not when I m near Wi-Fi that I need to be mobile !

I wanna say that before I had the Nexus 4 I was thinking that 8GB is more than enough! And in my country there is only the 16GB version but boy I am glad that this was the case! On 16GB you have 12.92GB (don't ask me why theres 3GB less I don't know how system can take more than 1GB) and on 8GB you have only 5.67GB!
Now i have like 2,5GB free space left on my 16GB version! It is okay I wouldn't mind having more space though I didn't have any problems yet. But I noticed some games are very big if you are a games 16GB might be too small (I'm no gamer though most of my space is taken by music).

AW: Any felt the need of sd card yet?
My storage was full. but after getting rid of all the junk.. old roms etc it was ..ok:thumbup:
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It has been a compromise for me. I'm also a musician and like to carry my entire music collection with me. I wasn't a fan of using the cloud because when I'm underground in the subway and I want to hear a song and if it's not cached I'm screwed. It has taken a bit of adjustment. I have a 32GB GS3 with a 64GB card and between music, videos, movies, pictures I filled more than half of the 64gb card.
I also don't have as many apps installed on my N4. I've definitely had to scale things down a bit. Although, I am having an easier time dealing with it then I thought I would.

I have 8gb and what I miss from my s2 (16gb + 32gb sdcard) is all the backups, roms I had.. Besides that, everything is fine

I bought the 16 GB version and haven't needed one yet. I ended up buying a 32GB Nexus 7 which is mainly used for heavy games like Vice City and NFS, leaving me with quite a bit of storage left on my Nexus 4. I stream all my music from Google play since I have unlimited data and Wi-Fi is pretty much everywhere I go.
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Any comments on the performance compared to S3? physically as well? I know that adreno 320 is much better than the mali 400 but by how much?

graffixnyc said:
It has been a compromise for me. I'm also a musician and like to carry my entire music collection with me. I wasn't a fan of using the cloud because when I'm underground in the subway and I want to hear a song and if it's not cached I'm screwed. It has taken a bit of adjustment. I have a 32GB GS3 with a 64GB card and between music, videos, movies, pictures I filled more than half of the 64gb card.
I also don't have as many apps installed on my N4. I've definitely had to scale things down a bit. Although, I am having an easier time dealing with it then I thought I would.
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use google music. even when i used sd i couldnt put my collection on it, i had to cut it in half. with gm i have my entire collection with me whereever i go. i live in two countries with long travels in between without connection - its as easy as tapping on the stuff i wanna listen to while being offline. you can make it even easier if you use playlists. i wasnt sure about cloud either but the way i see it, it works pretty well. i'd even say better than cutting my collection in half to fit 32gb.

graffixnyc said:
It has been a compromise for me. I'm also a musician and like to carry my entire music collection with me. I wasn't a fan of using the cloud because when I'm underground in the subway and I want to hear a song and if it's not cached I'm screwed. It has taken a bit of adjustment. I have a 32GB GS3 with a 64GB card and between music, videos, movies, pictures I filled more than half of the 64gb card.
I also don't have as many apps installed on my N4. I've definitely had to scale things down a bit. Although, I am having an easier time dealing with it then I thought I would.
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did you read what i posted about wireless drives? might help you.

molesarecoming said:
use google music. even when i used sd i couldnt put my collection on it, i had to cut it in half. with gm i have my entire collection with me whereever i go. i live in two countries with long travels in between without connection - its as easy as tapping on the stuff i wanna listen to while being offline. you can make it even easier if you use playlists. i wasnt sure about cloud either but the way i see it, it works pretty well. i'd even say better than cutting my collection in half to fit 32gb.
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I've been using GM. The only thing that sucks is sometimes I will be underground in the subway and feel like hearing a song out of the blue. If it's not a song that is cached then I'm out of luck.
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did you read what i posted about wireless drives? might help you.
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Yeah I did. But I don't know if I'd want to carry it around with me. For that I could just carry my GS3 with me
I really was turned off by the lack of storage on the N4(I wasn't going to get one for that only reason) but I'm making due. If anything it keeps me on top of keeping my phone tidy and organized because instead of just leaving everything on the SD card I now clean it out every couple days to remove stuff taking up space. And instead of having like 50 games installed I only have the ones I'm currently playing installed

isn't there a way to unscrew the thing and replace the inner one? I think there's an inner sd card which can be replaced...I mean, my friend has htc mozart and it also doesn't have a proper slot for external card however if one unscrew the back, there's a card deep inside which can be replaced with a bigger one...Isn't it the same with Nexus 4?

For me 16 GB is plenty of space, the only thing I miss the SD slot for is easy transfer of files. I don't have to plug the phone in to transfer files.
I haven't tried the NFC / BT or WIFI (can;t use in corporate network) for file transfers.
Other than that I have been very happy with this phone, no root, stock ui, I am loving it.
PHR

I have my nexus 7 for the movies and honestly I don't understand people watching movies on a tiny screen.
I also don't understand people who "knows" more than 2500 songs.
And the ones who can play 5 different game loft games on a daily basis.
So 12 isn't enough for obsessive compulsive people who has to have everything with them.
I bet they carry a huge bag stuffed with stuff as well. In case they suddenly happen to go on a holiday or something.

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