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This is the best game of all time now playing on windows mobile 6.1!
Unfortunately this is somewhat too good to be true. You can't use any function in the game that requires you to right click! This means you can't do some of the games most important functions like farm for herbs, minerals, etc, access the Auction House or the Bank, ride the gryphons for faster travel and every other function that requires you to right click. Also, the gameplay is slow on the phone where as it plays just fine on my computer.
You can do everything else in the game though. The ability to play this game is obviously only useful if you are traveling or out of your house somewhere and you want to grind to level up your character or talk to your online friends.
If you want to see a video of this in action just go to youtube and use the search engine there and you should find it.
Instructions coming soon!
I will be posting instructions soon on how I made this possible.
I want all the warcraft fans out there who enjoy playing this game to also be able to play this game on their windows mobile powered devices.
I also wanted to include the links to my youtube videos so you could see this in action. I tried finding the videos myself on youtube and could only pull one of them up in the search results.
Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw73oDGdbkc
Part 2 of this video on youtube is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax0snZbCs2k
Note on video quality from youtube video
I also wanted to note that I realize the gameplay on my phone looks blurry for some reason on this video. The actual gameplay on my phone was not blurry so it must have come out like this due to my camera that I used. I didn't want all the viewers out there who watch this to think that when you play the game on your phone that it will be blurry because this is not the case!
is the secret trick called rdp, vnc, or remote touch?
lol. the secret is simply using a remote desktop application. You can clearly see that from the first 1minute of the video.
You can play ANY game if you do it like that. XD More impressive if you actually used the processing power of your portable device to run the game instead of to run a remote desktop application.
laaaammmme....ha, you have the same monitor as me (i think )
Herbalisation said:
is the secret trick called rdp, vnc, or remote touch?
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Indeed you are correct!
I knew it wouldn't be long until somebody from this website community figured out how I did this. I used remote touch to make this possible. For those of you out there who are not familiar with the website for this program it is as follows.
http://t2remotetouch.blogspot.com/
caudex said:
lol. the secret is simply using a remote desktop application. You can clearly see that from the first 1minute of the video.
You can play ANY game if you do it like that. XD More impressive if you actually used the processing power of your portable device to run the game instead of to run a remote desktop application.
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You are right this would have been more impressive if I had been able to do that but at this time in our world cellphones don't have the power to process that kind of data. I still think it was a good idea to post this information to show everybody that that game still can be played remotely through your desktop computer for travelers or people who are bored and have the free time to play the game when they are out of the house. I think it is better than not having the ability at all.
With some of the newer phones coming out to the market soon this will change and we will be able to launch the game and play it without using a remote desktop application. I estimate that within a year or two at the most there will be phones out there on the market that will be able to handle a game like world of warcraft.
Only can i say: LOL
Excellent! I don't think any network will provide enough allowance for month for remote desktop connections. It's still imaginative nonetheless. I wonder if it could run faster, however.
Never played WoW here, but I assume other games would work too. Just the speed lacking.
nuke1 said:
Excellent! I don't think any network will provide enough allowance for month for remote desktop connections. It's still imaginative nonetheless. I wonder if it could run faster, however.
Never played WoW here, but I assume other games would work too. Just the speed lacking.
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I had an unlimited plan earlier with turbo3g which I together with my phone earlier as a modem for my computer when i was out at the countryside. So that really shouldn't be a problem..
nuke1 said:
Excellent! I don't think any network will provide enough allowance for month for remote desktop connections. It's still imaginative nonetheless. I wonder if it could run faster, however.
Never played WoW here, but I assume other games would work too. Just the speed lacking.
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I have an unlimited plan on my phone so this shouldn't be a problem for me.
I realize that phone carriers offer their subscribers these unlimited data plans and they assume that the average subscriber will never surpass a secret amount of data allowance each month and the carriers are correct.
If these power users go over this secret data allowance the carrier will contact the subscriber and notify the subscriber that they must cut down on this unusually large data consumption or lose the unlimited data plan. I will have to test this theory out and play world of warcraft on my phone for one billing month and see if I surpass my carrier's secret data allowance and if I don't then we will know that this problem you have brought forth will not be a problem.
As to the issue of the game running faster, I agree this would be more enjoyable if the game ran faster. As I have already stated even though the image quality looks blurry in my video from youtube, I assure everybody the image quality is good. The game looks wonderful on my phone visually, not quite as clear as it would on a desktop or laptop computer but it still looks sharp and is exciting to see this on a phone.
The remote desktop application that I used to make this possible does have two settings, one for speed and one for quality. The speed setting does actually play the game faster which is good, but as a result distorts and loses some of the image quality to achieve this ability. The quality setting setting plays the game slower but makes the gameplay look cleaner and more attractive. I personally prefer to play the game on the speed setting and lose some of the beauty of the game's graphics so I can enjoy a faster gameplay.
The game does play faster on a stronger broadband connection like when I switch on wifi and the graphics on the game also look better along with the speed boost. So, the only way to fix the slow speed issue is to either wait until a phone comes out on the market that can play the game by itself without the remote desktop application or somehow play the game on a phone with an even faster broadband connection.
My estimates are that the LTE or Wimax enabled phones in the future will have the broadband strength to play this game wonderfully with no speed or image quality issues!!
Interesting video, although I do not play WoW, but if I did, I'd consider it if I were waiting at the dentists or walking to another class.
My estimates are that the LTE or Wimax enabled phones in the future will have the broadband strength to play this game wonderfully with no speed or image quality issues!!
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In that case, wouldn't it be easier to port Vista or Windows 7, then play WoW? Or is it not possible to play PC games on the touch version of those OS's?
In that case, wouldn't it be easier to port Vista or Windows 7, then play WoW? Or is it not possible to play PC games on the touch version of those OS's?[/quote]
I actually tried this with "logmein" and another remote app, but the wow screen was just black on my phone...so at least you got it working with this remote app...thanks for the tip
World of Warcraft now with Improved gameplay speed and FULL Functionality!!
This is a much improved version of the game this time with all my program, apps, utilities, etc. turned off on my phone. I'm running this game on a HTC Diamond so I especially need to note that TouchFlo 3D is turned off. I am running this game by using a program called Remote Touch and I have my phone connected to a wifi spot with a good signal.
This game is able to play on my Diamond for two reasons: The increased strength of my wifi connection and the fact that I have everything else turned off on the phone to preserve my phone's Program memory.
In case you are wondering, my phone has just under 156mb of Program memory available to run this game this smoothly and without too much lag and with a good wifi connection. I'm noting this in case anybody here wants to try playing this game on their phone and this is a good ballpark figure of memory the phone needs to have to play this with faster, smoother gameplay. This game can run on the Evdo connection speed however, the game plays slower and is not as enjoyable.
I also want to note that the game could look even sharper and more visually beautiful with better graphics because the Remote Touch application has two settings, one for a faster speed connection and one for a slower connection but with a better visual experience. I have posted seven new youtube videos that showcase all the games major vital functions every average player would want to have if they were to play this game on their phone and have included the links below for all who still care and have an interest with playing this game on their phone to check out.
These videos are using the faster but less attractive connection option. I also want to make sure everybody that sees these videos knows that I realize the screen is tiny and its almost impossible to press all your different attack moves, etc. on your action bars. The Remote Touch application has the ability to zoom in and out into any section of the screen that you want if you need to see your action keys better or more importantly to read the text from your online friends or the battle stats that get displayed and my videos show this.
One last thing I will note here is I originally was unable to do anything in the game that required a right click of the mouse such as mining, accessing the Auction House or Bank and etc. I recently discovered that if you hold the phone's stylus over whatever item, character, etc in the game that requires a right click for a few seconds without moving the stylus that acts as a right click. So now you can do everything in the game you would normally be able to do on your desktop or laptop computer!!
Here are my youtube video links:
This video shows me mining and attacking some creatures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMhyvOjZpU
This is another video of some more battles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBXnUPxvQQ
Video of my character repairing armor and using the Auction House:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C03VIhrAWKE
This video shows me using the mailbox, bank and riding on a gryphon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3goOYWGB6U
Another video of a gryphon flight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B14f0mon694
This video is of my character swimming and mining underwater:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ritfcRKXJdc
This video shows my character talking to another character on wow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH0mi1hUZTw
Dude your addicted, get a life.
lol
A fine excuse 2 play WoW....
mrvolp12345 said:
this is the best game of all time
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hhaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Your comment is UNNECESSARY
Konfuzion said:
Dude your addicted, get a life.
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You Jerk! Your comment was unnecessary and you know nothing about me!
Your ignorant and you think you have me pegged as one of the addicted gamers but this is not the case. If you are still reading this and don't believe me then check out the two jpegs of my lifetime hours of my two characters and you will see for yourself.
The next time you open your mouth and assume you know everything about someone, think again idiot!
Anything more than 20 minutes on WoW should be considered as an addiction.
I've done a mini review of the amazing shoot em up style game NOVA on the Galaxy Tab. Copied the text of the Blog Post below, FULL post and youtube Vid can be found here: "bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com"
I'm a new user so I can't post up links in posts! Otherwise would have put it all here..!
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N.O.V.A HD. – Next Generation Gaming with the Samsung Galaxy Tab
The 20 man (and-women!)-strong team of Samsung Mob!ler’s have each been gifted a Samsung Galaxy Tab and we’ve been putting it through its paces over the past week or so. Our first task has been to check out the gaming potential that the Galaxy Tab has to offer, and I’ve focused this post on N.O.V.A. - the outstanding 1st-person shoot ‘em up style game from Gameloft.
I must say from the outset that I framed the Galaxy Tab as a mini-computer/multi-media/internet/email/phone sort of device, i.e. not something I would play games on so much; maybe just some basic freebie stuff. However N.O.V.A has surpassed my expectations and blown my mind open to just what the Galaxy Tab can offer.
Display
With graphics and gameplay on par with (if not greater) that that of a PSP, the Galaxy Tab and N.O.V.A make quite the match. Bringing back memories of the classic N64 Goldeneye, the game comes alive on the Tab’s 7inch TFT HD display. It runs smoothly with no lagging or glitches. There’s an ominous storyline throughout the game, and you get to watch a series of videos and radio messages as you follow the story of a retired marine called back into duty following a surge of alien invasions.
Gameplay and Controls
Whilst there is a degree of repetition throughout, N.O.V.A makes for a challenging and entertaining game. The controls are intuitive, simple to grasp and really put you ‘in to’ the game. There is a virtual touchscreen analogue stick that moves you about and the direction you ‘face’ can be controlled both via the touchscreen (anywhere on the screen) AND controlled gyroscopically with the Tab’s accelerometer. This means you can look around the game environment by moving the phone up and down and literally point and shoot the bad guys. With buttons to fire, reload, throw grenades, switch weapons as well as well as a host of other interactive (and customisable) features, N.O.V.A can really suck you into the game. With the gyroscope in full action you’ll look like quite the crack –pot playing this on the train or bus, but just think how much fun you’d be having at the same time!
Extra features
There’s various little extra ‘bits’ to N.O.V.A that begin to explore just what potential gaming on the Galaxy Tab could be like. Whilst these are not fully developed, they show a lot of promise. Some of them include:
- There are mini ‘hacking’ games, which are essentially little puzzles that you work through and unlock ammo/progress in the game.
- There are some cool features where you have to interact with the environment in a really intuitive way. This could be sliding an arrow to make the lift move, or spinning/moving parts of the walls/doors to open them. I guess you have to see this live… Check out the video!!
- Multi-player mode – Connect over wifi and play death matches with strangers across the world or just play with your friends over a local network! This is an amazing facet to the game, very fun and very addictive!
Conclusion
There’s a lot of ‘wow’ factors to N.O.V.A, as I’ve advanced through the game it opens up various new tasks, weapons, and ‘missions’ from sniping to drive-by’s. I just didn’t expect this level of gaming to come from a tablet. Really impressed.
There’s still a degree of repetitiveness to the game with the same sort of ‘baddies’ appearing and attacking you in the same predictable way. It thus becomes a bit too easy sometimes. There’s a good amount of detail given to the terrain/environment, although this could easily be expanded upon and is largely wasted.
All-in-all, this is a game you just have to see in action! Better still, head down to a Mobile shop and put it through your paces yourself! You will be impressed and I just can’t wait to see what else is in store for the Samsung Galaxy Tab!
FULLL POST and YOUTUBE Vid: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com
Good review - Thank you!
Thanks!
Here's a mini video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY9Ap5pe3nE
More stuff on my blog below!
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Keeps force closing on my Sprint Tab, can't even get the game to start
any file to share? i dont have this one preinstalled >.<
dont have any luck either googling for it
when i got one, asphalt HD free trial, whenever i download it from the link they gave me (which send me into the market) cant download it
its not there
any suggestion?
even if its free and only trial, i would love to try it 1st
I also cannot seem to find it on the market...."N.O.V.A.", "nova", "nova hd", "n.o.v.a. hd", "near orbit"...none of these search phrases work....
I downloaded the trial here..
http://wapshop.gameloft.com/wifi/tr...honeId=4645&c=223&sv6261=81120920e4e3085179c2
I like it good game.. I'm on the t-mobile galaxy tab, activation took some time but I have the full version..
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MindEracer said:
I downloaded the trial here..
I like it good game.. I'm on the t-mobile galaxy tab, activation took some time but I have the full version..
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You are full of awesomeness!! Thanks for that link....several other cool looking HD games there that I'm gonna try out and hadn't heard of.
you will be more awesome if you can upload the full file >.<
for example i download the golf HD for 4mb, but when i try to play it, it ask me to download another file to play and its a whopping 331mb
happens to all of them
phew
i dont get that fast of internet connection here, and download 331mb would be a pain in the ass to me through edge >.<
my 3g doesnt work as i'm on a remote area
there's no wifi too
gonna be christmas before i go back to my hometown and be able to download it
anybody?
Justin^Tan said:
you will be more awesome if you can upload the full file >.<
for example i download the golf HD for 4mb, but when i try to play it, it ask me to download another file to play and its a whopping 331mb
happens to all of them
phew
i dont get that fast of internet connection here, and download 331mb would be a pain in the ass to me through edge >.<
my 3g doesnt work as i'm on a remote area
there's no wifi too
gonna be christmas before i go back to my hometown and be able to download it
anybody?
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doesnt make sense.
How do I enable the accelerometer?
@spirit32
what part doesnt make sense to you and i'll get some sense for you
How do I enable the gyroscope?
Same as kyrumo71, sprint tab,doesnt even load up,just force closes.
Edit- just saw kyrumo post in the themes & apps section with updated info for sprint tabs on this game.
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Is the version of NOVA on the tab a full version or Trial?
If it's full, that'd be annoying as it went bye-bye when I updated the firmware.
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Is the version of NOVA on the tab a full version or Trial?
If it's full, that'd be annoying as it went bye-bye when I updated the firmware.
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It's the full version - I also had Asphalt 5 pre-loaded and like you, i forgot to back-up when flashing and I've lost it too!
apparently it had the golf game as well, so in my haste i've lost £10 of games!
Gutted....hoping I can find a way to get them again...
i bought now the nova hd game, and im totaly dissapointed..
probably im too stupid, but is there really no option to invert the Y axis??
i mean.. WHAT THE ****, i need this, or its totaly unplayable :3
did i really waste the 5$ for nothing now?... (NO i will not learn to play non-inverted.. NEVER)
If you want the apk pm me
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It's the full version - I also had Asphalt 5 pre-loaded and like you, i forgot to back-up when flashing and I've lost it too!
apparently it had the golf game as well, so in my haste i've lost £10 of games!
Gutted....hoping I can find a way to get them again...
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Recently, I have been so negative about my Epic 4G, so this time, I am writing why it became so outdated. I believe during Froyo era, Epic 4G was the best phone ever. It had better cpu/gpu for everyday experience and had better gaming performance than any other phones. When compared to Evo, our Epic crushes Evo with superior screen quality, better camera/camcorder+FFC and speedier everyday performance. It was once named top Android phone on some website.
Although Epic had its faults, such as keyboard skipping and inaccurate GPS, these were quickly fixed/mitigated by our proud devs in XDA. I was also pleasantly surprised when Epic natively supported 720P avi and mkv files. Epic really shined when all the emulators like FPSE, N64oid came out and they ran nicely and utilized keyboard well. I personally thought it was amazing to run PS games on my Epic. Some people even mistook my Epic as a PSP. So everything was good and I was proud to be the owner of the best phone.
Fast forwarding to Gingerbread era, where many high end phones are coming out with current OS installed, our Epic is still shining. When I run Netflix, the phone handles well, there are no signs of phone struggling. When on skype call, I can simultaneously browse webs or play games without causing the phone to slowdown too much. Also when using Google navigation and music simultaneously, the phone handles it with breeze. I didn’t have much frustration because of phone lagging/crashing. So Epic is still up there when it’s about performance. But why I do I still feel dissatisfied. Why do I feel so short changed?
The environment is changing. More specifically, technology is advancing in a way features of Epic 4G can’t utilize. More and more sophisticated apps are coming to Android and most of them are optimized for keyboardless phones. These sophisticated apps were already successful on iPhone platform, so naturally, these apps are optimized for keyboardless phones. Recent days, I rarely use my HW keyboard. I don’t play emulator games anymore as native games have better experience. Apps are becoming more virtual keyboard friendly that it is faster and comfortable than HW Keys. It seems like developers build apps without thinking about HW keyboard. The keyboard can still be utilized for document editing, but there are no good viable document editors. Also, this task is being quickly replaced by tablets as it has more potential thus developers are ditching developing good office apps for phones.
Also when talking about playing HD contents. It is now a trend to stream HD videos. People used to transfer mkv files to the phone to watch them but this is not only cumbersome to do it, it is a chore when having to deal with limited amount of SD space. It is very convenient to stream HD contents right on the phone with so much more selections. Epic can also do that but with critical limits. The current 3G is unreliable and 4G is not available for the majority. Phone still needs to rely on WIFI, when at this point, it is just better to use a tablet or a laptop.
A feature like FFC is not utilized as well since Skype is so slow on updating and supporting FFC for non-Gingerbread phones. It is difficult to have a video chat with people w/o high-end phones since they have to use the rear camera, which then they can’t see me, rendering video chat useless.
So all of sudden, the phone, Epic 4G, that had complete features, feels so outdated and unsupported. This is bound to happen for any phones out there, but it feels Epic was especially short-lived. The phone that had so many potential is quickly being outdated without ever realizing any of them. This is why I feel frustrated and how turn of events made Epic less useful.
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Recently, I have been so negative about my Epic 4G, so this time, I am writing why it became so outdated. I believe during Froyo era, Epic 4G was the best phone ever. It had better cpu/gpu for everyday experience and had better gaming performance than any other phones. When compared to Evo, our Epic crushes Evo with superior screen quality, better camera/camcorder+FFC and speedier everyday performance. It was once named top Android phone on some website.
Although Epic had its faults, such as keyboard skipping and inaccurate GPS, these were quickly fixed/mitigated by our proud devs in XDA. I was also pleasantly surprised when Epic natively supported 720P avi and mkv files. Epic really shined when all the emulators like FPSE, N64oid came out and they ran nicely and utilized keyboard well. I personally thought it was amazing to run PS games on my Epic. Some people even mistook my Epic as a PSP. So everything was good and I was proud to be the owner of the best phone.
Fast forwarding to Gingerbread era, where many high end phones are coming out with current OS installed, our Epic is still shining. When I run Netflix, the phone handles well, there are no signs of phone struggling. When on skype call, I can simultaneously browse webs or play games without causing the phone to slowdown too much. Also when using Google navigation and music simultaneously, the phone handles it with breeze. I didn’t have much frustration because of phone lagging/crashing. So Epic is still up there when it’s about performance. But why I do I still feel dissatisfied. Why do I feel so short changed?
The environment is changing. More specifically, technology is advancing in a way features of Epic 4G can’t utilize. More and more sophisticated apps are coming to Android and most of them are optimized for keyboardless phones. These sophisticated apps were already successful on iPhone platform, so naturally, these apps are optimized for keyboardless phones. Recent days, I rarely use my HW keyboard. I don’t play emulator games anymore as native games have better experience. Apps are becoming more virtual keyboard friendly that it is faster and comfortable than HW Keys. It seems like developers build apps without thinking about HW keyboard. The keyboard can still be utilized for document editing, but there are no good viable document editors. Also, this task is being quickly replaced by tablets as it has more potential thus developers are ditching developing good office apps for phones.
Also when talking about playing HD contents. It is now a trend to stream HD videos. People used to transfer mkv files to the phone to watch them but this is not only cumbersome to do it, it is a chore when having to deal with limited amount of SD space. It is very convenient to stream HD contents right on the phone with so much more selections. Epic can also do that but with critical limits. The current 3G is unreliable and 4G is not available for the majority. Phone still needs to rely on WIFI, when at this point, it is just better to use a tablet or a laptop.
A feature like FFC is not utilized as well since Skype is so slow on updating and supporting FFC for non-Gingerbread phones. It is difficult to have a video chat with people w/o high-end phones since they have to use the rear camera, which then they can’t see me, rendering video chat useless.
So all of sudden, the phone, Epic 4G, that had complete features, feels so outdated and unsupported. This is bound to happen for any phones out there, but it feels Epic was especially short-lived. The phone that had so many potential is quickly being outdated without ever realizing any of them. This is why I feel frustrated and how turn of events made Epic less useful.
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Agreed. At the time I loved my Epic but it seems like wireless companies are hell bent now on releasing new phones every 5 minutes it seems. This is funny considering most carriers look at reducing or preventing you from using it (capped data plans, touting 3D streams and Netflix sure is retarded when you can only watch so many episodes or stream so many movies a month). This has led to a large decline in support for existing devices, because why give a **** when you can just release something more powerful with upgrades software already built in that people can just buy. When I first got my Hero is was awesome, little slow but it was my first Android experience. The Epic 4G blew it out of the water, and I still love playing PSX games on it from time time, as well as Plants vs. Zombies and Cut the Rope look beautiful on the Super AMOLED screen. But when looking back, with all the hardware and software problems (GPS, keyboard, reboots, buttons) I still loved my device. Sadly, the trend has already started of shelling out half-finished products that companies can just "update".. but where do you draw the line when the product doesn't get updated? Both the carrier and the consumer lose. For me personally I've had my Epic since launch and I'm looking to trade it our for a Nexus S. Sure it doesn't have a keyboard and smaller resolution video but guess what: it's supported by Google themselves and gets updated off the bat.
Like Google said today, they are their own worst enemy. And with the shortened product cycle and lack of updates, people are foaming at the mouths for the iPhone5. And after stealing so many of Windows 7/Android "features" and calling them their own, Apple is looking at another record profit year because at the end of the day a large portion of people just want a phone that "works" and Apple supplies that kind of product. Reminds me of a nice little quote: "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
tl;dr: Newer phones are better than the 13 month old Epic. Also, apparently since it has a real keyboard, virtual keyboards don't work on it, for some reason.
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tl;dr: Newer phones are better than the 13 month old Epic. Also, apparently since it has a real keyboard, virtual keyboards don't work on it, for some reason.
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It comes with 3 virtual keyboards (swype, samsung, and android). And unless typing here or anywhere else I would type more than 5 word I rarely use the hw keyboard.
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vita10gy said:
Newer phones are better than the 13 month old Epic.
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Imagine that
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OP - Welcome to the world of Evolution.
...pull up a chair and have a set.
Honestly, my ET4G made me start to think my Epic was old. I didn't want a new phone at all until lately. The numbers don't lie. Screenies are stock ROM, stock kernel with root. Edit..the Quadrant test is actually a low score. I can't read those tiny previews...
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I still don't think the current generation of phones is sooo much better that it's worth upgrading yet personally. The hardware has stood up to the test of time so far if we just get some official gingerbread finally, this phone will get me by just fine for another 9+ months.
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I still don't think the current generation of phones is sooo much better that it's worth upgrading yet personally. The hardware has stood up to the test of time so far if we just get some official gingerbread finally, this phone will get me by just fine for another 9+ months.
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+1 A stable GB will do me just fine even beyond my upgrade date of 1/1/12
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+1 A stable GB will do me just fine even beyond my upgrade date of 1/1/12
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A stable Gingerbread would make this phone feel new again. I am just concerned because we have had what 3 or 4 leaks now with almost the same issues. I hope the next one will fix the reboot issue
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What's this?? Exponential technilogical advances are making electronics obsolete at an exponential rate??? Gonna have to have the boys in the lab verify these findings and get back to you ...
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What's this?? Exponential technilogical advances are making electronics obsolete at an exponential rate??? Gonna have to have the boys in the lab verify these findings and get back to you ...
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Lol...well played sir
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Well, to be honest, what are you REALLY trying to do? Keep up with the Joneses?
What irks me the most is the random quirks: Unresponsive apps, random force closes, half-baked apps that feel like weekend projects, having to pull the battery on some freezes, GPS drops, video recording issues, and TOO MANY OPTIONS TO WORK WITH! I'm finding myself "working" with my phone rather than "playing" with my phone.
Now, I love this community. I'm a geek, but not a total geek. I have SFR 1.2 installed, phone unrooted, and a custom kernel running (I forget what off the top of my head). I love being able to customize my phone... but it's getting to the point to where I just want to say "SCREW IT! JUST WORK RIGHT SO I CAN USE THE DAMN THING!"
That's what Apple does right: It just WORKS. However, there are many things I will miss if I switch to an iPhone: Widgets, a bigger screen, customizing my home screen, Roam Control, Google Navigation, and Voice Search just off the top of my head.
It's weird: I have an iMac, Macbook Pro, and iPad, but I have an Android phone. I love it... but these quirks are pissing me off. I tell everyone I meet that my phone works amazingly well 95% of the time. That 5% drives me CRAZY!
But, going back to your rant about our phone being a beast of a phone like the new phones: Relax. The Epic 4G is pretty damn epic! There's no "killer" feature yet that is coming out that will make me want to get a new phone. I don't play many games on my phone. I have my iPad for that. The next killer feature is the NFC chip, which I think the iPhone 5 will have. If it does, I just might switch. I know the Google Nexus S has one, but the Nexus S is basically an Epic 4G without the keyboard. I'd wait until the next version of the Nexus comes out and compare with the iPhone 5.
Yeah, I find myself flashing every ROM and kernel that comes out because I am still trying to get my phone to the point where everything is working properly without issues. On my ET4G, I rooted it, flashed the CRT+1% battery mod and put the stock kernel back on it. I haven't flashed any of the early ROMs because I am very happy with how everything is functioning. I hope I can get my Epic to that point some day
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Yeah, I find myself flashing every ROM and kernel that comes out because I am still trying to get my phone to the point where everything is working properly without issues. On my ET4G, I rooted it, flashed the CRT+1% battery mod and put the stock kernel back on it. I haven't flashed any of the early ROMs because I am very happy with how everything is functioning. I hope I can get my Epic to that point some day
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EXACTLY WHY I CHECK THE FORUMS EVERYDAY! You just made me realize why I do it. I guess I'm always looking for the bigger, better, faster method. I have to admit, I check the Android Market once or twice daily to see if there's any updated apps. I must be OCD or something.
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EXACTLY WHY I CHECK THE FORUMS EVERYDAY! You just made me realize why I do it. I guess I'm always looking for the bigger, better, faster method. I have to admit, I check the Android Market once or twice daily to see if there's any updated apps. I must be OCD or something.
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Its the whole android motive, even though everything is working perfectly for me I feel the need to brick it and odin just to restore everything and change it up a bit maybe different theme or ROM lol its never been that it doesn't work for me. I have an ipod touch and that's it,it just works lol I get bored with it jailbroken or not its boring after a while lol.
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It comes with 3 virtual keyboards (swype, samsung, and android). And unless typing here or anywhere else I would type more than 5 word I rarely use the hw keyboard.
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Yes, that's why it was sarcasm. I'm not sure what the OP's point was there. What possible method of on screen controls won't work on the Epic?
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Yes, that's why it was sarcasm. I'm not sure what the OP's point was there. What possible method of on screen controls won't work on the Epic?
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I feel confident that the OP is trolling and most likely owns a htc evo 3d. Im running at 1.5 ghz stable and epic screams. It suks the life out of the battery like some members here on kokers but thats why I have 2 extra batteries free from our beloved asurion. Don't ask how trolls! Every app runs like a black man from police. Don't you trolls go anul and report me to mods! Im joking for gods sake! But the battery sucking pawer is true.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
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If you love your Ouya... this is your thread.
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So I was apprehensive about purchasing an Ouya after finding out about the recovery issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2326377&highlight=let+ouya+know
http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode
But I went ahead and got one from Amazon anyway. Rooted it, running Nova Launcher rather than the Ouya one, Installed the Google Play Store.... XBMC ...
played a few games a bit.
It's not perfect. But I'm loving it anyway.
I just don't wanna brick it, so I haven't tried any of the alternate ROMs. I'd love to throw CM10 on this little cube.
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I love it! it works perfectly as a low power media center and the games I run on it work well. I'm just having a hard time making it detect my SD card but i'm almost there...
I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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I personally can't stand the overlay, so when I get the chance (and energy), I'll try to put CM10 on it, at which point I expect I'll be fine with it. The controller is awful though (for me, anyway), so I'm looking forward to connecting some cheap USB hardware once I get back to school to use it as a media server. I require basically nothing else from it.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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Its perfect as media server. USB keyboard and mouse work great on it. In the mean time, try blue board.
Also by overlay, I assume you mean the interface itself. You can just install Nova Launcher.
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The launcher is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to annoyances: a lot of things I do daily on other devices involve weird workarounds and jumping through "user-friendly" panels. I really don't have a patience with most customized skins, so it's really not worth my time until I can flash CM. As with all things, mileage varies, so take this for what it is.
I personally enjoy the Interface. Coming from an MK808 with a stock Android experience, screwing with the UI using an Airmouse or controller was a pain in the butt. I love the simplicity and being able to just pick what I want and go.
I could see if you are using it more as a media server. But just for playing games (what I purchased it for) the UI is awesome.
The Gamepad leaves a little to be desired for. Really, nothing beats a PS3 gamepad for retro gaming. The OUYA gamepad feels nice, but it feels like a 360 pad... with its iffy circle dpad. The controller responds very well but the dpad makes retro gaming a bit cumbersome. The PS3 is also lighter and just feels right. Fortunately the PS3 pad pairs effortlessly and has become my main go to for EMU's.
Overall I love it. Mine took a factory reset before it saw my USB HDD, but good to go. The Ouya Store is a little cluttered. They have Top Favorites like 5 times and each has duplicate games... so you keep seeing the same ones over and over. Right now, the store is barren, so finding something is easy if you search by categories. This WILL be a problem as it expands.
I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
There is a lack of online multiplayer apps. Local Multiplayer Emulators is mostly what I purchased the console for in the first place. And that it does almost flawlessly.
I absolutely LOVE my OUYA! I love the interface and even the controller, even with the less than perfect D-pad. I've had more fun with some of these games than I have on my 360 in a long time. And actually I've played more games for longer since I got my OUYA than all year on my PS3/360/PC (excluding MMO's)
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I'd also like to see some simple categories like Top Ten Downloaded, Most Liked, and Newest Releases... even "Latest Updates" which just shows apps that have been updated. This would be nice since some early versions have bugs. On several occasions I have passed up an app because of issues, then forget about it only to find later it was fixed pretty quickly.
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I think this is something they're working on. They actually added a "New Release" category yesterday that made me happy, although I'm not sure how they sort it because some of the new releases were not actually on there. Even then, they need less top 5 lists and more broad categories with SUB categories. I believe 1 level deep should solve a lot of the problems we're currently seeing.
Love my ouya, but have nothing to compare with, i am a pc user.
Bought it for the games and then discovered the emulators. Installed battle city and having the blast with my friend.
Also bought the hocky kickass game and got owned by my little bro :/
So ye, perfectly satisfied with myvpurchase.
And also a big thumb to all the devs, and moders to make it even awesomer
My history and experiences are a bit different but my reactions are similar to everyone else here.
I started messing around with "hacking" game consoles about 10 years ago with an Xbox 1. Pretty quickly became a serious XBMC user.
I actually was only initially interested in the Ouya as a way to get a tiny / silent dedicated XBMC box. The fact that it is a hacker-friendly box that runs Android and is sort of an indie game haven did not hurt at all.
I honestly didn't expect to use it for gaming at all, but I've been surprised to find that that's mostly what I use it for.
The whole "everything is free to try!" model changed the way I found and bought games. The fact that almost all the games are cheap as hell compared to "real" console games doesn't hurt either.
I have done several Kickstarter items in the past, and so I know that the Ouya team is smaller than they should be and has had to solve a lot of unexpected issues along the way, so I am not surprised that a bunch of unsolved issues remain. However, overall I am satisfied with all that it does. There are seriously a bunch of great Ouya games, like TowerFall, Bomb Squad, Hidden In Plain Sight, The Little Crane That Could, etc.
I have been a pretty busy guy in general lately, and so I honestly don't feel like I have the time to play some of these 80+ hour AAA titles that are around right now. In that respect the Ouya has been great. Every aspect of the commitment level from the user is significantly less than other consoles, and I like that.
As others have said, there are some things about the system that bug me, but overall, I can't be bothered with ROMs right now.
It does everything I want already, and the random cool crap you theoretically could maybe do with a ROM doesn't presently overrule my fear that I may brick my Ouya.
At this point I think my laziness also is a big thing. It works well enough as is, so I'm not sufficiently motivated to mess with it yet. Obviously, me browsing this forum means I'm thinking about it though
I am loving my ouya as well! And my roomate who has berated me about my purchase since january, calling ouya an obvious failure, conceded. After having it for 2 days, he stated he is going to pick one up for himself now that they are supposedly available retail. if you went into this thing with reasonable expectations, you will be very happy. if you heard "console" and thought "PS3.5" you are going to be disappointed, but whatever man, you were a fool so GFY.
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I love mine. It likes to fight, but I like to fight back. Getting it to function perfectly is a game itself. As far as games, I recommend You Don't Know Jack and Vendetta Online. Good games that work great; vendetta just isn't consistent with what the menus say controls are.
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I got it for retro gaming and sideload some better emulators and it works great. Can't wait for better roms tho
At this point I'm unimpressed. It feels like it needed another 6 months in development, especially the UI. The library is also very week. There are a few gems like towerfall, but the vast majority of games don't warrant more than 3 minutes of play.
I was underwhelmed at first but now I have the play store, access to my games, emulators, and another launcher running I love it.
I think I will have to purchase a usb hub and a mouse and keyboard before I am truely happy.
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I'm LOVING my Ouya!
Towerfall might be my favorite multiplayer game ever!
My OUYA is amazing. Rooted and CWM already. But still waiting for goog CM port on it)
I still feel burned over the recovery issue - they shouldn't have sold it as open the way they did if they weren't planning on actually living up to that claim....
But....
Overall I'm still extremely happy with mine. The original controllers I got were absolute trash, but they replaced them quickly when I contacted support (thankfully I got mine in late May before they ran out of replacement controllers) and the replacements are fine. The wireless has me wondering if they actually had anyone with any kind of RF experience involved in the design - wifi is horrible and the bluetooth isn't much better. Sitting just 10' from mine the controllers will freak out if I don't sit forward in my seat with a completely unobstructed path between them and the Ouya. The interface isn't great and the Discover section needs a TON of work....but that's software and I'm sure we'll see some major changes there sooner rather than later.
Due to the recovery issue I haven't done much hacking on mine other than root/busybox and a few things like Titanium. But that wasn't my main reason for wanting it - it was what put me over the edge since I figured it was a good price for a Tegra3 board to play with if Ouya tanked....but I was still hoping they'd pull it off and have some decent games. And while the game selection isn't anything to get excited about just yet...it's been getting better and better quicker and quicker and I've had no problem finding games I want to play on it. Heck I've actually bought more games on it than I did for my Wii (the last console I bought) which is mostly due to the fact that while I've bought more games for the Ouya than I did for the Wii I've spent less on games for the Ouya than I did on just one game for the Wii
The main reason I'm happy with it though is because I do believe in the dream and I do love Indie games. And even better having this thing sitting here has finally gotten me to get serious about sinking my teeth into Java and Android development. I cobbled together a few quick and dirty sample apps a few years ago before I even had an android device to run them on (ran them on the emulator and then my wife's phone since she got to upgrade a year before me) but haven't gone any further because while I may be able to sling some code I'm just not that good at making things look nice and my co-workers who are are apple guys who don't want to help me develop for Android. But they're also gamers and are interested in the Ouya so we're finally on the same page and working on some ideas. I was blown away by how easily I was able to get some simple game proof of concepts functional and so was my co-worker. It's been a dream of mine to make my own game for a console since I got my first Atari 2600. I looked into the Wii homebrew scene...but again none of my graphically gifted co-workers had a Wii and weren't interested in doing anything for it so I never got past some quick test code. To finally have a system I can make code for and a friend who's interested in joining forces to make something....it's a dream come true.
Now if I just had more time to play games on it and/or write more code for it
I love this machine! Much better when its Rooted/CWM, its great to have friends over and hookup ps3 controllers to play Smash Bros or play any EMU games, and super portable for travelling.
I'm not already hooked by my Ouya (well almost)
I think it's really a matter of youthness : I'm currently a little disapointed by the quality of the graphics on the games, and to be honest I'm not that fan of graphics
But I can't help to notice the graphics gap between Android mobile games and Ouya games whereas our little square friend pack a very capable GPU (Tegra 3)
I also miss mass player online games which is for me a nice argument for Ouya (I do have friends !)
Again I think the future will be beautifull since Ouya games currently available are essentially from indie enthousiastics who don't have necessary big fund
Finally, I don't regret my Ouya AT ALL, I'm really happy to be a baker
i find it a bit odd how people often emphasize that they use it mainly for emulating the classic consoles.
people could have saved themselves a great bit of money by just buying some no-brand Android device, and even gotten a device that was pre rooted, had official Play store, hardware recovery option 5 full size USB plugs, bluetooth and even SD slot. All for something like half the prize of the OUYA.
At this point i must say i am not to crazy about it. i feel that OUYA have really made an effort in locking down the console rather than living up to their promise of openness. Everything from the OUYA launcher being a walled garden, to no direct access to your own file system, no root access / superuser priviledges, no hardware option for recovery state and no play store access.
i really like the look and also the controller. But i also got this for a silent XBMC dedicated device. i will however wait for a linux based build before that dream come through. i was hoping that i could play and hack around with until then. But without a hardware recovery option, i will just wait for a good Linux based XBMC port instead.
Made a post about wishing Google had some form of backwards compatabilty a few weeks ago and it was kinda poo-pooed
Skip ahead to yesterday. Got my nexus 6 and within 1 hour i was unlocked and rooted with a custom recovery and unencrypted thanks to Wugs great tool kit.
Spent the next day getting used to 5.0 and setting up my phone... Tonight i breath a sigh of relief and I'm ready to actually enjoy my device.
Now whatever your thoughts are on gaming on a Mobil device you have to face it these devices are built for this very thing. These phones don't have all this horsepower and big beautiful screens for the internet and Facebook.
So i fire up Gta Vice city...it won't load a game, try the new one Gta Sa, and menus don't work can't save and load when in game. Tried the new Xcom Enemy Within game and graphic artifacts everywhere games completely unpayable. Over half of all the games i own don't work.
I have a brand new $700 device sitting on my counter while i have to use my nexus 5 under 4.4.4 to actually do the things i want to do! Something is wrong with this picture. Sure some of these problems will be fixed by devs over time... But who the hell knows when. Some companies have 30-40 games across multiple platforms...it could take forever (and usually does) for them to make updates...Now knowing that why does google not have a backup plan to make sure older software works on newer devices?
Why should google care about what developers make? Google rules, developers have to adapt and change the code based on Google decides to bring in each new version.
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Why should google care about what developers make? Google rules, developers have to adapt and change the code based on Google decides to bring in each new version.
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Because the developer has already made their money... The consumer is the one who is stuck with a product that doesn't work.
Let's see Google crack down then and pull every grand theft auto game from the market till rockstar updates them...But we all know that's not going to happen.
I have no issues playing GTA SA on my Nexus 6. Mine is rooted and unencrypted but otherwise stock 5.0.0. I actually am really enjoying this phone for gaming, something I've never really liked on phones before.
I'm not sure what has been done on your device so I can't give any instructions on how to fix your issue other than to not blame Google for issues with a few apps, especially when you're not using the device as completely stock/as intended by the manufacturer...
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I have no issues playing GTA SA on my Nexus 6. Mine is rooted and unencrypted but otherwise stock 5.0.0. I actually am really enjoying this phone for gaming, something I've never really liked on phones before.
I'm not sure what has been done on your device so I can't give any instructions on how to fix your issue other than to not blame Google for issues with a few apps, especially when you're not using the device as completely stock/as intended by the manufacturer...
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Menus become laggy after a little while of playing, cant load/save game. I checked reviews on google play many others on a nexus 6 are complaining of the same
That's weird... I've played probably 3 hours over the weekend of GTA SA and never once noticed a problem. I'll watch for issues as I continue playing it though.
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That's weird... I've played probably 3 hours over the weekend of GTA SA and never once noticed a problem. I'll watch for issues as I continue playing it though.
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Any other games you have tried? Anther one of my favs is Segas Jet Set Radio... That game would look awesome on this big screen... Doesn't even start
Any time you hit a major OS update, you run into compatibility issues at first. I knew going in that I'd run into a few quirks.
But I ran into similar issues when I first got my G3... lots of apps weren't able to cope with the increase in resolution and needed to be updated. Waze had some serious map rendering issues, for example. But it got sorted.
It's the price you pay, sometimes, to be an early adopter.
I'm downloading a couple other games and will report back (though it may not be until tomorrow when I can report back). I'm downloading the following:
Baulder's Gate Enhanced Edition
GTA Vice City
GTA III
Dungeon Hunter 4
Asphalt 8
Modern Combat 4 (older but I haven't bought the newer versions)
I notice a lot of apps aren't compatible such as dead trigger 2. I side loaded DT2 works fine. There were others as well can't remember which ones. Mostly games
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Made a post about wishing Google had some form of backwards compatabilty a few weeks ago and it was kinda poo-pooed
Skip ahead to yesterday. Got my nexus 6 and within 1 hour i was unlocked and rooted with a custom recovery and unencrypted thanks to Wugs great tool kit.
Spent the next day getting used to 5.0 and setting up my phone... Tonight i breath a sigh of relief and I'm ready to actually enjoy my device.
Now whatever your thoughts are on gaming on a Mobil device you have to face it these devices are built for this very thing. These phones don't have all this horsepower and big beautiful screens for the internet and Facebook.
So i fire up Gta Vice city...it won't load a game, try the new one Gta Sa, and menus don't work can't save and load when in game. Tried the new Xcom Enemy Within game and graphic artifacts everywhere games completely unpayable. Over half of all the games i own don't work.
I have a brand new $700 device sitting on my counter while i have to use my nexus 5 under 4.4.4 to actually do the things i want to do! Something is wrong with this picture. Sure some of these problems will be fixed by devs over time... But who the hell knows when. Some companies have 30-40 games across multiple platforms...it could take forever (and usually does) for them to make updates...Now knowing that why does google not have a backup plan to make sure older software works on newer devices?
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Ah well.
Welcome to the bleeding edge, OP. Someone told me iOS is better at this if you want to go there.
welcome to a new OS, this is what happens across the board for all devices when a new OS is launched.
on windows, when you get a new OS update, not all software is prepared for it, same as everywhere else.
I personally have not had any issues with any games i have running on 5.0 and i game with a lot of big RPG's
Bards Tale is gorgeous on here BTW
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Lop. You should have seen the compatibility issues on iOS 8 and developers not being ready for bigger screens. They're still having problems!
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Its actually kind of funny. Google actually tried to offer solutions to this problem this time around. They released the L preview builds and early api for app developers to have everything they needed to test and build their apps to support the newest OS version. Of course very few devs used those tools to get a jump on it . . .
Yeah gaming is hit or miss...clash of clans runs wonderful but my castle clash runs barely good enough to play.
however i do have the latest software and what already appears to be awesome dev support so I hope this gets ironed out. The phone has the power the run the games even on the high res screen.
As an application developer, it would be nice to actually have the device to test on. Right now, I have to rely on the emulator for the Nexus 6. I don't make mobile games, but if their engine relied on Dalvik, you may be waiting a while for the game engine to be updated to ART (I don't think this is an issue as I've never had issues with gaming on my Nexus 7 tablet). More likely, you are dealing with an issue with resources not matching the Nexus 6 DPI... therefore, you're stuff looks out of whack, or can't click on menu items. You'll have to wait for more devs to get a hold of physical devices. The emulator is good for a lot of things... but there are somethings that are just broken for development...
Some examples I noticed
1) You have to turn off "Use host GPU" to take screenshots/record video off the emulator.... Disabling "Use host GPU" makes the emulator run like crap... takes like 5 minutes to boot on my machine.
2) Cannot rotate device anymore. With Gingerbread, you could rotate the device and test out your layout-land resources... nope, not anymore... at least not on anything >= Ice Cream Sandwich
3) HAXM... not an issue for me, but I get a lot of questions on my YouTube channel about why my emulator is smooth. I use intel processors on my computers. Many use AMD and development with the stock android emulator is a nightmare. I don't know if Genymotion fixes this for those as I haven't had an AMD processor since before Android existed as a mobile OS.
4) Freezes up randomly. Its just not as stable as a real device. Obviously this could vary on machine to machine. For some reason, my Nexus 4 emulator freezes way more frequently than my Nexus 5 emulator.
5) I store some files I need to test my app's database in Dropbox. I used to be able to download the file and run it in my program to create my database. I can't do this anymore. It works fine on my physical device, but I don't think my Note II will be getting Lollipop anytime soon. I need to test SD Card storage options and the emulator just doesn't work for this.
My Nexus 6 was promised to leave the warehouse by December 3rd... even paid overnight shipping.... still hasn't even been charged from my account. My point: Improvements will happen... we just need devices before we can fix a lot of issues with lollipop. Motorola/Google have really screwed this release up.
Thanks for the post Rufflez.
And for the person who brougt ms Windows up... That's a terrible comparison.
I have 10-15 year old games on cds that still work on win 8/7. Windows even has a comparability mode built in. Would be nice if android had the same.
This happened last year with kitkat (except wasn't as bad) and now again this year with art/5.0.
Google thinks devs are going to update all their software every year??? Isn't that expecting too much.
modern combat 5 plays absolutely incredibly on the n6! graphic would rival any console game.
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Thanks for the post Rufflez.
And for the person who brougt ms Windows up... That's a terrible comparison.
I have 10-15 year old games on cds that still work on win 8/7. Windows even has a comparability mode built in. Would be nice if android had the same.
This happened last year with kitkat (except wasn't as bad) and now again this year with art/5.0.
Google thinks devs are going to update all their software every year??? Isn't that expecting too much.
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This may be wrong, but I think Google likes to make software not backward compatible due to security features. In Windows, having the ability to run a software made for Windows 95 is great, but with a built-in emulator, old existing security loop hole will exist in newer version unless they patch up. What Google is doing forces all apps to change to meet the security standard so this allow Google to have more control of the apps development vs having a large QA team to release security patches similar to what Microsoft is doing on windows. Not to mention having backward compatibility (not just KitKat) will increases the size of android l os, which is not ideal on mobile device