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Is OMNIA 2 Worth it??

Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my Xperia X1, that still is a great phone, but I wanted something faster.
I am considering Omnia 2, because of the battery life. As it carries the same battery capacity as Xperia, I would like to know how it performs.
My other choice was HTC HD2, but when I heard that I could not be sure it would even last me one day, I started looking for something different.
I want a WM phone, as all the programs I have (like GPS Tomtom) run on WM and I am used to it right now.
When I read some reviews about Omnia 2, I got the impression that the Samsung skin is slow and not very useful. I would like to ask if there are some good ROMS for it that solve the problem, and if you think it is worth moving from X1 to Omnia 2, or should I just go HD2.
Thank you all for the input.

UI performance with rom that my O2 shipped (I8000NIL5) was poor. Every time you switched screen widgets reloaded and this took time - just watch some review video and you will know what am I talking about.
Now I am using I8000NJD3 rom (by the way, it is WM 6.5.3) and UI runs smoothly. It is really a big difference! Plus you can choose between widgetplus and samsung today home screens (like work and life mode with B7610). Samsung's cube and main menu are gone but if you ask me they were useless. Also all the programs are updated but there is still room for enhancements.
For me, battery lasts for 2 days - hour or two of conversation, few messages and some web browsing using wi-fi. Decent performance I think.
Well with heavy use I can not get through all day without charging but that is the story with all phones on market.
You mentioned GPS program. It takes few minutes to get a fix on cold start on a sunny day.
And, when I bought a new phone I was choosing between O2 and HD2 too. Decided for O2 because I got it for ahalf of HD2's price (talking about carrier's price, not retail!). I am pretty satisfied with decision.

I had the same choice as well and chose the O2 over the HD2.
I am happy with my little "Sammy" as well.
Mr Frog

I think my Omnia 2 (i920) battery has only died once since having the phone since December. I use internet and messaging pretty heavily daily. I have no problem getting a day to two days worth out of a full charge.
The samsung widget interface isn't the best, definitely laggy and widgets are unresponsive or disappear at times.. but that's why I don't use it
There are tons of other UI's though, the one I've been using and like the best is throttle launcher..
The thing I like most about Omnia 2 is the swype keyboard, makes typing really fast once you get used to it.
The one issue I have had with this phone is that incoming phone calls or text messages will sometimes go unnoticed. That is because the ringer will not sound, yes even when volume is on full. It seems a lot of other people have been having this problem too.. It happens about 40% of the time and is rather annoying.
If I had a choice between HD2 and this phone I would definitely not purchase this one again. Overall it is a good phone, I am just tired of Omnias (had Omnia i910 too). They seem to be late to market with features and so on, not really ahead of the curve..

mchaves44 said:
The one issue I have had with this phone is that incoming phone calls or text messages will sometimes go unnoticed. That is because the ringer will not sound, yes even when volume is on full.
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Never had this problem. But I have I8000, not I920.

out of the box this phone (i8000) is a peace of **** that you will just want to throw away. But thanks to cookers that issue is solved this phone dose everything you need. Using a custom lite ROM i get around 100MB of usable memory vs the 40MB on stock. I read many reviews on this phone as well and was a bit worried about it but took the plunge and could not be happier, the fact it had such bad reviews made it that much more cheaper when i went to purchase a new phone. So in the end it was a great deal for me and the hardware is still amazing for this phone, yeah it not your 1GHz snapdragon but still good enough. I just hope samsung do not forget out this phone and continue to support it, mainly adding openGL support. They have been very good with updates thus far and now its 6.5.3 so it getting better.
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM, although i hope future updates reduce the reserved RAM.
2.) OpenGL driver, this phones dose not have any. I did not take this into account when i bought the phone. I thought it would just work and all apps won't have any issues and i was wrong. There are devs working on the drivers like chainfire and they do fix many apps like sences and the such but again its not fully featured drivers.
So if you buy this phone you will have to flash and tweak it to get a everyday usable phone.
p.S wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?

jebise101 said:
wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?
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Only I920 has Swype preinstalled.

ohh i wonder if i can get my hands on a cab

Thank you very much for the input. It was very helpful to see what users think about their devices. It makes me sad to see such a great phone, with an OLED screen and a big batterylife, with such poor software. I like WM phones, and I do not think I will switch to android that fast, but the only usable WM phone is HD2 and that has a battery life of an hybrid car (2km just on battery). If you use it moderatly it will not even last you one day.
I hope that this phone will at least have good gps tracking, better batt life, and that with a custom rom it will be faster then my Xperia X1.
If anyone wants to add something new about this phone, just post it here.

jebise101
jebise101
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM said:
Where did get the lite ROM?
I need to do the same thing on my i8000 also.
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Many here currently using kydkylin sence ROM although its a bit slow still a lot faster then stock, just avoid using the music tab if you want to keep RAM usually have 50-60MB after full day. Or if you want the litest ROM there is tw2 JE1 gives around 103MB on boot.

Thanks a lot.

how can i upgrade to jd3?
hi guys
i m a new omnia2 user. need help with upgrading.
my phone is originally from netherlands and came with wm 6.1
i upgraded to JC rom using pc studio and 3 days later PC notified
that i had an upgrade.
again upgraded and i got IL5 now. NPS says i have installed the latest version!
so how can i get the latest rom, pls. and i wont to do it officially.
(no cooked roms)
thanks

monsterfly need help pls
monsterfly said:
UI performance with rom that my O2 shipped (I8000NIL5) was poor. Every time you switched screen widgets reloaded and this took time - just watch some review video and you will know what am I talking about.
Now I am using I8000NJD3 rom (by the way, it is WM 6.5.3) and UI runs smoothly. It is really a big difference! Plus you can choose between widgetplus and samsung today home screens (like work and life mode with B7610). Samsung's cube and main menu are gone but if you ask me they were useless. Also all the programs are updated but there is still room for enhancements.
For me, battery lasts for 2 days - hour or two of conversation, few messages and some web browsing using wi-fi. Decent performance I think.
Well with heavy use I can not get through all day without charging but that is the story with all phones on market.
You mentioned GPS program. It takes few minutes to get a fix on cold start on a sunny day.
And, when I bought a new phone I was choosing between O2 and HD2 too. Decided for O2 because I got it for ahalf of HD2's price (talking about carrier's price, not retail!). I am pretty satisfied with decision.
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pls tell me how to upgrade to jd3 officially. my phone is from netherlands, and the upgrade i got today was to IL5, which is an old one. (am i right?) but they indicate that i have the latest rom installed!
pls help me out
thanks

kanishkapd said:
pls tell me how to upgrade to jd3 officially. my phone is from netherlands, and the upgrade i got today was to IL5, which is an old one. (am i right?) but they indicate that i have the latest rom installed!
pls help me out
thanks
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I posted answer in this thread you started.
As said there, roms mentioned there are made by Samsung but can't get them via PC Studio, so I don't know if I can say that this is official upgrade (decide by yourself ).

jebise101 said:
out of the box this phone (i8000) is a peace of **** that you will just want to throw away. But thanks to cookers that issue is solved this phone dose everything you need. Using a custom lite ROM i get around 100MB of usable memory vs the 40MB on stock. I read many reviews on this phone as well and was a bit worried about it but took the plunge and could not be happier, the fact it had such bad reviews made it that much more cheaper when i went to purchase a new phone. So in the end it was a great deal for me and the hardware is still amazing for this phone, yeah it not your 1GHz snapdragon but still good enough. I just hope samsung do not forget out this phone and continue to support it, mainly adding openGL support. They have been very good with updates thus far and now its 6.5.3 so it getting better.
This phone has 2 major problems
1.) Low RAM which can be fixed by using a lite ROM, although i hope future updates reduce the reserved RAM.
2.) OpenGL driver, this phones dose not have any. I did not take this into account when i bought the phone. I thought it would just work and all apps won't have any issues and i was wrong. There are devs working on the drivers like chainfire and they do fix many apps like sences and the such but again its not fully featured drivers.
So if you buy this phone you will have to flash and tweak it to get a everyday usable phone.
p.S wtf how do you guys have swype as the default keyboard?
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I quite agree with most points made here, but there's a lot more to this phone than what you get out of the box.
Once you've registered on this and Modaco's forum the possibilities are virtually endless with the i8000.
When I first got this phone I nearly sent it back because of the lagging and I fancied an Android device( I still hunker after the Galaxy S now ) but I have stuck with the i8000 and I am very happy with it thanks to the great people cooking roms out there!

Omnia II is wonderful
I think this phone need excellent people to cook for it. I'm waiting for Energy ROMs to come.
* The camera is realy nice with alot of features to make nice pictures.
* Video recording is wonderful with 720 pixels recording. "I used daiamond, touch pro & HD from HTC. I will tell you it is wonderful and the difference is big.
* The samsung applications are nice and you will see tha the samsung taste is there in all applications. Sometimes you will forget yourself as being using WM!!. It is another taste.
* The battery is really having good life of more than one day for sure
* The processor is 800, the screen is much better then that of HTC.
* Samsung is producing official firmware nearly every month and although it was originally coming with wm 6.1 but it is officially upgradable to 6.5
* with the new firmware coming last July the free ram is nice. With good cooking it will go more.
* The performance is rely fast and rarly you need to do soft reset.
In summary, When excellent cooking coms to this device it will be more wonderful.
Thanks

Imagine your x10 ....

If there was no dev community so you were only able to use the stock firmware, with no customizations or fixes (jit, etc...). Would you still like the phone? How would it change how you feel about it?
I personally think that I would hate my x10 if I was forced to stay on stock, as it is super laggy and buggy...

Without JIT I think I will be a bit annoyed by the speed of my X10, but will try to adopt myself with it since I tried the stock 2.1 without JIT and it was little okay, won't be that great though. But since I'm a computer scientist I know that I would implement the JIT myself so I don't think it will affect me that much.
I'm currently satisfied with the performance of the stock with JIT with mediascape and without timescape.
I will agree about the laggy part, but disagree with buggy because I didn't find bugs yet, but that's me

many thanks to Z for the 2.2 and jit..... and j for his hard work trying to customize 2.3 for us... otherwise the best thing about the stock was mediascape and camcorder.

See it is this line of thinking that makes me question SE... The x10 is a great phone when modded, but if you were to own it completely unmodified (say you didn't know how), I think it would be a horrible experience..

Think of it this way, You don't miss what you don't have.
When I forst got my phone, I LOVED it, it was my first smartphone(and SE's too ) and it was great. But when I learned about all these customizations I could do, I could never go back to stock.

fiscidtox said:
See it is this line of thinking that makes me question SE... The x10 is a great phone when modded, but if you were to own it completely unmodified (say you didn't know how), I think it would be a horrible experience..
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True, since its their first Android device they are inexperienced but that's not an excuse. However I think most of the devices are the same when they first come up, talking about devices 1-2 years ago giving exception to HTC.
New devices now come with better optimizations from stock (samsung,SE,motorola,HTC)

I still think you'd notice how laggy it was

Can't deny that, 2.2 is always faster than 2.1

MJ_QaT said:
Can't deny that, 2.2 is always faster than 2.1
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Oh definitely...
I think SE should have considered maybe timescape and mediascape being more optional from the very start, once they noticed how majorly they hogged memory.
A lot of 2.1 firmware versions from other companies still run pretty well, a lot better than SE's version.
I just can't imagine being stuck with it :S Hell, many people don't even have dual touch yet!

After the latest update I think SE made noticeable improvement. It never was as bad for me as you describe and I haven't noticed any bugs. My first random reboot and force closes came after installing 2.2. Just rooting and uninstalling bloatware was good enough for me. However, after enabling JIT mine responded almost instantaneously and was smooth as butter. I didn't think it could be any faster than that until I tried 2.2.
I don't understand how you can say that the stock ROM is horrible. What's going on in your life that half a second is unexceptable? Maybe it's an age thing, because most of us over 30 that grew up during the PC revolution know what lag is really is. What you call laggy is nothing compared to the days of upgrading our PCs in increments of 8mb of RAM. The first time I heard the world Gig was in the movie "Back to the future" when the professor needed 1.21 gigawatts of power to time travel. You don't like waiting a second or less? Try 10 to 15 seconds minimum. Let's remember 90% haven't hacked their phones at all, and the X10 is fairing pretty well in the "real world".
I am most thankful for the devs and xda. You think you have it bad? If it wasn't for them I wouldn't even have my X10a anymore. My provider, AT&T, didn't even update to 2.1.

million X10 are sold....less 500-1000 may have modded their phones......still thousands have the stock ROM,may be 1.6 with no dual touch too..!!!!!!!

agentJBM said:
After the latest update I think SE made noticeable improvement. It never was as bad for me as you describe and I haven't noticed any bugs. My first random reboot and force closes came after installing 2.2. Just rooting and uninstalling bloatware was good enough for me. However, after enabling JIT mine responded almost instantaneously and was smooth as butter. I didn't think it could be any faster than that until I tried 2.2.
I don't understand how you can say that the stock ROM is horrible. What's going on in your life that half a second is unexceptable? Maybe it's an age thing, because most of us over 30 that grew up during the PC revolution know what lag is really is. What you call laggy is nothing compared to the days of upgrading our PCs in increments of 8mb of RAM. The first time I heard the world Gig was in the movie "Back to the future" when the professor needed 1.21 gigawatts of power to time travel. You don't like waiting a second or less? Try 10 to 15 seconds minimum. Let's remember 90% haven't hacked their phones at all, and the X10 is fairing pretty well in the "real world".
I am most thankful for the devs and xda. You think you have it bad? If it wasn't for them I wouldn't even have my X10a anymore. My provider, AT&T, didn't even update to 2.1.
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I'm 28 so I'm not much younger than you...
Stock was very laggy, especially in comparison to most high end (which look at it's price, it was/is high end) smartphones out there... with it's specs, you don't expect that kind of lag. Read reviews, comparisons, etc... I'm not the only one who thought that.
You can't compare it to phones years before and say "well I remember when....". The zeitgeist (spirit of the age) dictates that we will judge things based upon the relevant facets of comparison at that particular timeframe.

I dunno what to tell you guys... I've tried almost all the custom ROMs out there, with all the themes, and I've always come back to stock. I'm willing to live with the lag (which is considerable) if it means I get to keep my Timescape and social phonebook. Not like I really need them, just that I'm really used to them. I will, on occasion flash the newest custom ROM just to see, hope, that it is completely working, rather than half of the functions not working. And the very next day I will find a need for something that isn't working, and back to stock.
The first 2.1 stock ROM was extremely laggy, as well as the first 1.6 ROM. SE made improvements to the speed on both occasions, but I still think opening up your phonebook shouldn't take 5 seconds, and opening the camera app shouldn't take 10 seconds. Just sayin...

do u guys ever experienced laggy in ninjump when mod to 2.2?

pngface said:
I dunno what to tell you guys... I've tried almost all the custom ROMs out there, with all the themes, and I've always come back to stock. I'm willing to live with the lag (which is considerable) if it means I get to keep my Timescape and social phonebook. Not like I really need them, just that I'm really used to them. I will, on occasion flash the newest custom ROM just to see, hope, that it is completely working, rather than half of the functions not working. And the very next day I will find a need for something that isn't working, and back to stock.
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This.
For most users, the stock is fantastic (2.1, 54 baseband MT version) It's only the very small % of people here who care, and a even smaller % of those people here who even use a custom rom.
I love the dev's here. They do awesome work and can create beautiful work out of ****. Very talented. I also love custom roms for my devices. That being said, I like custom roms WHEN THEY WORK.
So far, we don't have any roms that work fully. If you use a custom rom, you have to sacrifice many features in order to run 2.2 or 2.3. To some, myself included, a lot of these features are must haves on my device. Until one of the DEV's can make a rom that includes the following working, stock will win out..
-Camera
-Video recording (hd)
-video playback
-Wifi tethering
-Video streaming, including youtube etc
-facebook or other social apps.
These types of features are not working in all of the roms available to us. Now, some of the above may work on some of the custom roms, but every one has at least 2 of the above mentioned NOT working in their custom rom.
Unfortunately most of non-working features are seen by the devs as minor issues, and backburner problems.
""only" camera not working"
"Camera not working, and other "minor" features"
etc
Sorry guys, but these things are "must" haves on a lot of peoples personal devices. In order to run 2.3 I have to have no camera, wifi, video streaming, social apps.. etc? Stock will win every time.
I have a beautiful "smart phone" with awesome features so I can use them. Not so I can break the awesome features it has and make it a "dumb phone." just so I'm running 2.3 which is so00o much faster then 2.1, so I can check my mail faster?
Again, love the devs and their work and still praying for the day that all awesome features of our phones and android are working on a custom rom.
To the OP's original questions: Would you still like the phone? How would it change how you feel about it?
Yes, the x10 since it's 2.1 and new MT update, it is much improved and awesome. I love it. It's the best looking device out there, feels the best sitting in your hand then any other device.

Free x10 and wolf breaks xm both work fantastic and the camera is better than on stock rom..
I would be embarrassed to show people my phone on stock.. "look at this guys! Oh wait ten minutes til it works properly..."
If it was great for most people then why are ratings and reviews so poor? Go look at amplicate or cnet and read what people think..

fiscidtox said:
Free x10 and wolf breaks xm both work fantastic and the camera is better than on stock rom..
I would be embarrassed to show people my phone on stock.. "look at this guys! Oh wait ten minutes til it works properly..."
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Funny you should say that as I was embarrassed when one of my friends asked my at the pub to take a pic of him and a celeb that we ran into.
"I can't" " why not, you're phone has an awesome camera" " well no, i have a custom rom installed, the camera doesn't work" " that's dumb bro"
Or when a few days later I was rear ended. We got out to take a look at the damage. " dude, take a pic" " I can't, remember? camera not working" " dude..."
That being said, Wolf's rom is awesome. edited. Was thinking of something else as 2.1. It's still awesome and IMO the absolute best option from the new stock.
feex10 rom is 2.2, but again, lacking features and has broken elements.

skydirt said:
Funny you should say that as I was embarrassed when one of my friends asked my at the pub to take a pic of him and a celeb that we ran into.
"I can't" " why not, you're phone has an awesome camera" " well no, i have a custom rom installed, the camera doesn't work" " that's dumb bro"
Or when a few days later I was rear ended. We got out to take a look at the damage. " dude, take a pic" " I can't, remember? camera not working" " dude..."
That being said, Wolf's rom is awesome. But its 2.1.
feex10 rom is 2.2, but again, lacking features and has broken elements.
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What? Wolf's is 2.2 dude...
the ONLY thing not working in either in camcorder (and it works with a 3rd party app)
The camera in both is better than stock

I went back to SE's 2.1 when they updated... couldn't believe how much better the phone is with Z's beta 4. Not even comparable. (imho)
If there was no dev community for this phone, I definatly would have of sold it.
But now I love it

I would still love the phone personally. For me the lag was bearable (mostly). Also my carrier have stated they don't do firmware updates, so I would still be stuck on the original 1.6 R...14 firmware haha. Even back then the phone was still quite usable for me. You can't miss what u never had. But in saying that, I love my cm6 rom lol
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ICS: Taboonay vs Lightspeed

Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those (clarification... other devs out there, my bad) devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda premium

OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
veer01_42 said:
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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cliefan said:
Everyone has their own taste/preference for sure....but please don't call someone else's work atrocious...its just not nice :/
Sent from my ADR6350 using xda premium
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Pull all your apps in manually? When was titanium back up automatic
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veer01_42 said:
Basically just a heads up, with Taboonay, performance wise it was good despite being a stock kernel (that's how much an improvement ICS is over HC) however, the damn thing was eating through my battery. In the course of 12 hrs, my tab was dead... while on standby ???? Checked the battery usage history and nothing stood out. Im thinking my WIFI never turned off even in standby because as i sent and recieved IMs my IM app on the tab was chiming as well while i was on the desktop.
Switched to Lightspeed, significantly better, 1 hr use per day over 2 days still on 62% battery. Dunno if it was an app or the IM app for sure. Overall, its a much cleaner, slicker rom, however the OOB exp is disabled so if you were hoping to run the setup wizard, put in your Google account and just have it pull in all your apps and settings automatically, sorry, no beans, you have to manually do all of that by hand which is annoying.
Other than that, Lightspeed ICS is a huge WIN!!
If the ICS Lightspeed Dev runs across this post, please re enable the OOB for ICS so i can just pop in my G account and have it set it up for me. Tks all!
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PS I did install ICS Flexreaper and Icylicious and they ran fine but after 5 mins tapping around i didn't like how they looked. It looked like a 5 year old customised them and the "eye candy" was atrocious :S
No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste. I actually like the default Holo UI in ICS and I also did in HC (preferred the old font from HC too, but Roboto is good too)
To those devs, please take some time and seriously consider you choice of apps and themes please!!
Thanks for all your hard work, it is most highly appreciated.
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Roms can be found here:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/forum/acer-iconia-tab-roms/1060-iconia-a500-501-rom-list-updated-05-mar-2012-a.html
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Only thing changed in flexreaper is soft touch (home, back, menu )buttons with mirror effect.
The ring you can flash to stock look.
Yes you have a right of your own opinion . So do I.
I like that you piss on me and then say "don't be offended blablablabla".
About battery life, if you would be as smart that you think you are, you would know it takes a few full recharges before battery settles. If that doesn't work wiping battery stats will make a big difference.
So let me explain like a 5 year old ,
You big man go to cwm ( clockwork mod) ,blablablabla.....
You want stock icons, you open systemUI.apk with blablabala.
You should be able do make full rom now.
But please big man don't be offended we do this for users like you.
A nice pm with question to have stock buttons would have been more respectfully.
But I don't expect that from a 3 year old , my little boy of 2 got more sense and respect then you.

greyoldchief said:
OP is speaking his mind. He does have that right.
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Man...that statement right there is garbage to me...
The generation of entitlement.
Xda provides a free forum to use. Devs put in may many many hours and allow us to use their roms for free... Tell me who gave him the right to come on here call some else's work atrocious?
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I didn't use titanium. I have all my files on a external SD card. All i ever have to do with a Droid reinstall is app installs and the OOBE handled that for me before quite nicely.

I said the EYECANDY was atrocious. Not the whole rom...
Wrap ur head around it. Its like you built a car and i said i didnt like the colour you painted it in. I have every right to comment on what i think of their customisations especially if its true. I like the under the hood work and i pointed out where taboonay needs some work, but what i didnt like i said.
I did my fair share of customisation and skins back in the XP days and got pretty heavily criticised myself. I stopped skinning with Vista and 7 because to me the UI was "good enough". The same with ICS. The UI is good enough so i PREFER roms with few UI customisations. That doesnt mean i think they're bad.
Have you seen the collective's ROM? Its gorgeous!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439351
But that's just MY OPINION. Others may or may not share it. Just swallow it and move on.
If you have a problem with that then go take a time out and come back when ur ready to act like a grown up instead of a little kid who hates being criticised and judged.

Tried the battery wipe with taboonay, didn't work.
Right after Lightspeed, it did not give any problems at all.
The mirrored buttons was the thing i hated the most on civatoflexreaper. and prbably the only thing, that said i didn't know how to change it and am reaching a point in my life where i'm tired of messing with stuff. I just wanted a clean working ICS ROM.
I was making a general comment to the devs as a whole, particularly the ones who go nuts when using every effect in photoshop on every button they can find.
I did take the time to say thanks for all the hard work and that i appreciated it and I didnt spend too much time in your ROMs so people knew, "hey my statements are pretty general and maybe they should look for themselves before making a final decision"
All i criticized was the theming, don't take it personally. Quite frankly i even hate Acer's stupid acer ring customisation. After about 5 minutes i realised that it added nothing to my experience and was totally pointless. I even looked into removing it from your rom but was so tired i just looked for another ROM.
And i quote "No offense to the devs, they just didn't suit my taste"
I'm sorry but when i see something ugly i say it and i say it nicely. People worse than me would do the same thing and the word atrocious would be the least troublesome word in their vocabulary.
I'm sorry if i offended but that was not my intention.
If i continue to offend in future, i simply will not mention your work at all. Congrats on the kid btw.

I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........

Fair enough i can respect that.
I don't usually contact modders, bad past exp from way back. I leave my comments and walk away, I don't make a habit of making requests and asking people to change things. Mainly because they never do.
I use as much tact as i can, believe me i do, however im a fairly harsh case. That said i can appreciate hard work. I was brought up the old way too. I may be a child of the 90's but i grew up with an old school family. Even thou, I've had to be harsh to get by and that, unfortunately, comes through, even on text.
I speak my mind and I've grown accustomed to dealing with the fallout single handed. But if I'm wrong i will say I'm wrong.
I know what you mean about the kids. Respect is a two way street. I deal with kids way too often, I know. I'm a harsh, but fair person.
Peace.

I tried Flexreaper and agree with you on how it look. Now I'm on Tabooney but the battery life is as good as Lightspeed. Tabooney is the best ICS ROM, at least for me.

Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.

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Well I say this with respect but no custom ICS ROM I have flashed has been good to my battery as far as drain is concerned and I turn off everything but the Wifi.
Even in airplane mode the battery drains by 5% within 1 hour... I never had such issues with the custom Honey Comb ROMs.
I guess the custom ROMs are based from the stock leaks so I'm not blaming anybody or trying to make anybody look bad, just saying it as it is.
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Might be another issue, I use taboonay and with wifi set to sleep when screen is off and will get 2 1/2 to 3 days.
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The battery is worse than HC all round for true, but I'm guessing it might be due to non-final drivers and packages. Once the final acer release is out, it might be a different story. For not the battery is good enough for me 3 - 4 days with minimal use and im good.

Or it could get worse...there's nothing to say Acer will fix any problems. Just need a decent kernel.
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civato said:
I don't mind negative comments brought respectfully.
Some thing you need to learn if you ask me, again my opinion.
If some one speaks his mind the way you do , free and with no tact you need to understand that there will be a response .
I hate this about internet forums, people get away with every attitude.
Let me say it this way, if you where standing in front of me and my car got a really ugly paint job in your eyes you wouldn't say it was done by a 5 year old .
Take my word for it, I was born and raised the old way.
Respect and honour comes first....... you will see m8 if you have kids if you don't have them already you would love it when they are respectfully .
Again a simple question , he civ, I don't like the mirror effect could you upload stock look.
That would have been enough.
That was all I had to say about it , do with what you want ........
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Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool

Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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resurrection of old topic, im not saying anything

Moussa Dastgheib said:
Nice one civato
By the i really love and respect your work and veer is just a dumb**** that wants to look cool
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Ah , well I talked to veer in pm and he is OK,
Let me put it this way , if we all had the same taste there was only need for one rom.
Just one comment about flex reaper and people still saying it looks not good.
Did you try scrolling down a little to the mod part and flash full stock ICS look, if you have a little read skill you can see you can bring flexreaper to full stock ics look with no blue buttons or battery %.
I think reading is harder for some then just sitting at there pc and post some crap
And that is maybe all about intelligence and not taste.
The option is there you just need to see it.

How about an current update?
This thread's comments are really old.
When the comparrisions were made I think that was when LightSpeed was a 4.4 or less and Flexreaper was at about R12 or less.
Since then Flexreaper has made a lot of updates and Lightspeed has made a few too.
I never tried Tabooney so I don't know where that is at, but it's probably been updated too.
I tried Flexreaper and Lightspeed back a few versions ago.
I liked Flexreaper over Lightspeed. I like all the extra work that has gone into the different Flexreaper looks you can chose from. Lightspeed was just too bare bones for me. But you may like that.
I haven't yet gone to the ICS kernel so I'm starting to fall behind in the Flexreaper updates. Civato is a real busy guy and I just can't keep up with him. Keep up the good work.
Any updates comparing the latest versions of the top ICS versions would be appreciated.
Thanks

[Noob] Rom Advise neede

Hi all
As in title i need some advice to change rom on my le pro 3.
The point is that I've always had nexus devices (4 and 5) and the latter stopped working. I've loved that plain and simple android so much that i never even bothered to change roms on those devices. So now i bought this Leeco Le pro 3 since I am not willing or better can't afford to spend so much money on those new pixel phones.
And here is the problem: I would like to install a rom as similar as to that "nexus" experience possible. Just plain android with no extra stuff I don't (think) I need. I'd then just download the apps I was previously using from play store.
Do you think there is something out there that could do the job?
Thank you very much

Well we have the Lineage team working on roms, we had a great rom the GTX ones but trolls got the OP pissed, in my opinion the battery on this phones is much better with the stock roms rooted and debloted, i get something like one day and some hours of battery life, I only use twitter, FB and hot spot when i need too, is also connected to BT streaming music when on the road. I tried using the Liniage and slim, and some how battery suffers im not sure why, but eventually those devs will figure it out, I came from the 6P and nugat screw up that phone badly, the UI on this phone gets a little to get used too nut IMO is worth the change.

Give stock rom a try. I also like very clean roms but this stock is really good, just install nova laucher and customize it like the new pixel launcher, it gives you a pretty good clean android experience, with some little tweaks.

cubanghost said:
Well we have the Lineage team working on roms, we had a great rom the GTX ones but trolls got the OP pissed, in my opinion the battery on this phones is much better with the stock roms rooted and debloted, i get something like one day and some hours of battery life, I only use twitter, FB and hot spot when i need too, is also connected to BT streaming music when on the road. I tried using the Liniage and slim, and some how battery suffers im not sure why, but eventually those devs will figure it out, I came from the 6P and nugat screw up that phone badly, the UI on this phone gets a little to get used too nut IMO is worth the change.
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Hi Cubanghost and thank you for your answer.
For now I did a backup of whats in the phone as it arrived. I might have found something here and it looks like the closest stock android experience that is available to me. The "grossoshop" version I have is just too confusing to me so I think I will just try the one i linked above and if it is not satisfying I will revert to the original and try to get used to it.

TheDethEgineer said:
Give stock rom a try. I also like very clean roms but this stock is really good, just install nova laucher and customize it like the new pixel launcher, it gives you a pretty good clean android experience, with some little tweaks.
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Hi TheDethEgineer, if what is above fails, I will for sure try your advice. Thank you very much

lale717 said:
Hi Cubanghost and thank you for your answer.
For now I did a backup of whats in the phone as it arrived. I might have found something here and it looks like the closest stock android experience that is available to me. The "grossoshop" version I have is just too confusing to me so I think I will just try the one i linked above and if it is not satisfying I will revert to the original and try to get used to it.
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Not a problem i was lost on the IU for about a month since i was so used to my 6P but now i cant tell you the relief i have to move away, also the idea the Engineer had was also a good one i have nova swiping up like the pixel launcher. but i also heard good things about the chinesse rom's and battery been awesome. go for it and welcome to the LeEco family, this phone does not disappoints IMO.

Google Pixel as LightPhone 2 (distraction free but functional smartphone)

I've always liked the core idea of the LightPhone 2.
A phone that has less distraction but is not a total feature phone.
The Lightphone 2 is great and all but mainly the price is what really turns me off.
A few other cons are lack of e-hailing apps(atleast in my country, e-hailing service like Grab and Uber are much cheaper than Taxi), lack of choice in messaging system(I'm not trying to live near off the grid here) and no camera(that can be actually used for taking pictures of receipt or scanning a document(I live in a between a first world and third world country)) .
I think that the Pixel is a suitable quick replacement for it.
It's just very cheap at this point.
The OLED display just makes sense to use a total minimalist white on black UI (yes I do realize the Lightphone uses E-ink but compared with an LCD based phone OLED just makes sense)
The Pixel has a bad processor intensive task, it will overheat doing nothing. Underclocking it would still be way faster than a Lightphone 2 and would still serve its purpose
and many more
...but only if there is a ROM built for that.
And for that I want to ask any experts here is it possible to just stripdown the Android 10 rom, mod the launcher for the UI, tweak how the notification works to achieve the above?

Did anyone ever make a ROM for this?

Badcam said:
Did anyone ever make a ROM for this?
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No, I think there are there already Blloc OS but its still not good enough for me... There is also the LightPhone 2 which is crazy because its really pricey but still doesn't hit the right spot for me still...
Recently I bought the Nokia 6300 4G which is great for detox but still want that Whatsapp feature but there are other few importants things that I still cant do
I'm already planning on taking a used up Pixel and creating a rom myself
P/S: wow I barely log in here its like the stars are aligned and you made a reply not long before I randomly decided to log in lol....

funtikar said:
No, I think there are there already Blloc OS but its still not good enough for me... There is also the LightPhone 2 which is crazy because its really pricey but still doesn't hit the right spot for me still...
Recently I bought the Nokia 6300 4G which is great for detox but still want that Whatsapp feature but there are other few importants things that I still cant do
I'm already planning on taking a used up Pixel and creating a rom myself
P/S: wow I barely log in here its like the stars are aligned and you made a reply not long before I randomly decided to log in lol....
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Mate, did you find anything? I'm also looking for same. I'm fed up with this smartphone addiction. I like the lightphone too but it's kinda pricey and lacks some features like you mentioned (WhatsApp, Camera, etc). Someone please develop a rom for this.

RishabhUpadhyay said:
Mate, did you find anything? I'm also looking for same. I'm fed up with this smartphone addiction. I like the lightphone too but it's kinda pricey and lacks some features like you mentioned (WhatsApp, Camera, etc). Someone please develop a rom for this.
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unfortunately no... the CLOSEST and most BUDGET I've seen so far is the Qin F21 Pro and its variant. It has a small touchscreen so you won't be sucked in as much, the non google play version(you can install apk but its very tedious to sideload an apk via usb).
I still think the best way is if a dev suddenly want to make a Lightphone OS style custom rom for a Pixel

funtikar said:
unfortunately no... the CLOSEST and most BUDGET I've seen so far is the Qin F21 Pro and its variant. It has a small touchscreen so you won't be sucked in as much, the non google play version(you can install apk but its very tedious to sideload an apk via usb).
I still think the best way is if a dev suddenly want to make a Lightphone OS style custom rom for a Pixel
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I have found a phone and it's perfect but i wish someone develops a lightphone os for Android devices.

RishabhUpadhyay said:
I have found a phone and it's perfect but i wish someone develops a lightphone os for Android devices.
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yeah which phone?, for me it doesn't need to be a lightphone os. Just as long as it has foolproof ways to install apps via on phone,foolproof built in website blocking, built in document scanning method

funtikar said:
yeah which phone?, for me it doesn't need to be a lightphone os. Just as long as it has foolproof ways to install apps via on phone,foolproof built in website blocking, built in document scanning method
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Unfortunately, is only available in India. It's called Jio Phone. It runs KaiOS which supports most of the functionalities that you mentioned

RishabhUpadhyay said:
Unfortunately, is only available in India. It's called Jio Phone. It runs KaiOS which supports most of the functionalities that you mentioned
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ah I've actually used a variant of the KaiOS phone the Nokia 6300 phone but I find its too still too limiting for my use, others might be fine with that