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So I was really looking forward to getting a galaxy tab, primarily for web browsing. Then I saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZvCXMARtl0
What is the deal with the stuttering jaggy web browsing experience? Can someone that has a tab let me know if a third party browser can make browsing a little less, bleh?
The Galaxy Tab has Flash running in on the webpage.
Look at 0:08 on the video, you can see on the iPad that there are two bars marked "FLASH" disabled. It's suppose to have the banner for "HTC" on it.
Yeah, flash is SERIOUSLY CPU heavy. In fact that's how apple justifies not using it on any of its mobile devices. On closer inspection, there's more than just two 'FLASH' bars on the iPad, I count at least 4.
If you want it to good THAT fast then turn flash off.
On the other hand, do you look at websites by pinging back and forth on them so fast you can't read the text ? Personally, I scroll slowly down, and only move quickly infrequently when I want to 'go to top' or 'go to bottom'. If you actually read websites, the video doesn't really show off a whole lot. Its not comparing like with like, and its not comparing a real life situation, so it doesn't matter.
I have the tab. Some sites with flash will run just fine.
Others will simply cause the browser to be unusable. I have no explanation to this.
I compare a site that is unusable on the tab with my Droid x and on the droidx the site runs just fine with flash enabled.
Maybe. This is a software issue which is unrelated to flash and can be fixed in a future firmware update.
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I have the tab. Some sites with flash will run just fine.
Others will simply cause the browser to be unusable. I have no explanation to this.
I compare a site that is unusable on the tab with my Droid x and on the droidx the site runs just fine with flash enabled.
Maybe. This is a software issue which is unrelated to flash and can be fixed in a future firmware update.
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Quote possibly. Samsung have been slow to release Froyo for the galaxy, so maybe the flash thing isn't just the Tab, its the architecture. Maybe they can't get the hummingbird GFX to accelerate properly.
I have a Tab since 1 week and yes...the browsing experience is really awful. it's a pain...it's slow in loading pages and VERY jaggy in scrolling.
If I think that it should be one of the best features on the Tab I'm very sad and I really hope that it will be fixed (ad least improved) soon in future releases!
By now I just can't leave my ipad for internet browsing.
It looks like both the SGS and the Tab are suffering from the same issue with the browser.
Samsung will have no choice but to fix this.
Dolphin and Opera
Yes browsing with stock browser is really slow and jaggy. I've installed Opera mini and Dolphin. I use Opera for casual browsing (ie xda) and it's really smooth. When I need flash, or for "difficult sites" or if I have to download with rapidhare etc I use Dolphin (which is almost smooth).
Thank you all for your honest opinions.
patomas said:
Yes browsing with stock browser is really slow and jaggy. I've installed Opera mini and Dolphin. I use Opera for casual browsing (ie xda) and it's really smooth. When I need flash, or for "difficult sites" or if I have to download with rapidhare etc I use Dolphin (which is almost smooth).
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Dolphin uses the same core lib as the stock browser so it should run the same as stock in terms of speed.
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Dolphin uses the same core lib as the stock browser so it should run the same as stock in terms of speed.
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Didnt know. In practice it's really smoother though!
The webkit browser has a really annoying renderer in general. I dont understand why it needs to lower picture quality whenever you move the image around.
Just look at the way opera mini does it - much faster and better looking! Sadly its buggy and lacking in features, which is why im still using webkit.
Dolphin HD is slightly better (if only because it semi-blocks flash content by default), but it has some annoying ui elements like the giant tab bar, which can be removed but at the cost of being able to click on objects along the top edge of the display.
Ive also tried the ARM7 version of the mozilla fennec nighly builds. It just force closed on me, not even a little looksee
For me Dolphin HD is much smoother beside the fact it doesn't show flash banners where stock one does.
Both of them have been a disappointment WRT flash support.
It isn't that great for sites i visit.
If I open a new tap, I need to zoom in and out to get a picture
is this normal?
No, mine loads fine immediatley.
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No, mine loads fine immediatley.
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strange maybe this evening I'll do a HR
by the way I open the tabs not in front but in background. If I open it in front it will load
If you have not checked out this browser you might want to. It runs great on my tab. It's really smooth and even makes the xda website not as laggy. I think it might be what i use from now on...at least till I find something better, but best I found so far.
I've been checking it out as well and after five minutes I made it my default browser. I think it's awesome and runs better for me than any other browser I've tried.
opera 10.1 beta is the best with no lag but has no flash support
What's the difference between this and dolphin hd?
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Ive been using this browser for the last day, and all Ive gotta say is WOW! Lag? What lag? It just runs so damn smooth. Much love for this browser so far.
i will say again opera is much faster and lag free
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i will say again opera is much faster and lag free
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I think you'll find that most of us have already tried Opera - it's good and fast, but IMO Dolphin Mini is just as fast and supports flash.
I'll only revisit the non-Webkit browsers (i.e. Firefox and Opera) once they support flash.
Regards,
Dave
Miren browser has been my default for a couple of weeks now. It is also very smooth and without lag. Are you running stock firmware?
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I'm wondering the same thing...
Lucky_Charms said:
What's the difference between this and dolphin hd?
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The above was written as part of an attempt to waste time using a Galaxy Tab,
Rush exMachina
Didn't really see much of a speed difference between Dolphin Mini and Miren, so I'm sticking with Miren for now.
Try this edited version of Miren Browser
Has anyone figured out a way to import Dolphin Mini's bookmarks into Miren?
It seems Dolphin backs up its bookmarks to a proprietary format only for Dolphin.
I want to start using Miren, but don't want to manually enter 60+ bookmarks.
Maxthon is my current browser. It seems that Dolphin Mini in my tab is having problems to close, well, its tabs. O_O
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Maxthon is my current browser. It seems that Dolphin Mini in my tab is having problems to close, well, its tabs. O_O
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....Thanks?
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....Thanks?
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I mean, if you open Dolphin Mini and try to click the "x" mark to close the tab, it won't close.
For your question, I am not sure if you can. For the HD, you can download the, "Bookmarks to SD" add-on.
I'm glad I read this. I had tried dolphin HD and didn't care for it.Mini does run great on my tab though. Thanks
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I mean, if you open Dolphin Mini and try to click the "x" mark to close the tab, it won't close.
For your question, I am not sure if you can. For the HD, you can download the, "Bookmarks to SD" add-on.
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Same problem for me, also when you click in the address bar to type, you have to manually delete the address that's there to type something in. Wish it was highlighted so when you start to type it clears it. It's nice and fast though. I'm going to try the Miren browser nowas well.
Lucky_Charms said:
What's the difference between this and dolphin hd?
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Can someone answer this please?
Miren didn't work out for me. Downlading from Mediafire, rapidshare...etc sites do not work. It always downloaded an html page. Guessing it doesn't handle redirects correctly?
Ive tried every single browser in the market on my tab. To be honest, I prefer HD to mini. Dolphin Mini is a light version of dolphin without all the extra bloats. it takes less space on your card but the ram usage during use didnt really make that much of a difference. I noticed maybe 3-5mb difference in usage
I just got the transformer and i was wondering which browser between the 2 that you guys like better and why. This is my 1st device with honeycomb so i dont really know which way to go.
i have both. i started out using dolphin cause i was using it on my nexus 1 already but lately I've been using the stock more and more.
they're both good imo. just play around with both and see which you like better.
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Dllphin doesnt have graphic acceleration for scrolling anymore in newest version so its a no go for me.
dolphin is a much better browsing experience in my opinion, i didn't like how slow websites were with flash enabled on the stock browser but then again I haven't switch back to see if it's any better since the update[3.1].
stock browser in 3.1 is much better than previous one . flash video is in higher quality than dolphin. finally the swipe thumb quick control is the killing feature for stock browser
I use Dolphin, mainly because of the interface.
Edit: I did a quick benchmark with sunspider which tests javascript. Here's the results:
Stock: 1.7653 seconds
Dolphin HD 5.1.0:1.7919 seconds
Dolphin HD 6.0.0 beta 2:1.8261 seconds
brando56894 said:
I use Dolphin, mainly because of the interface.
Edit: I did a quick benchmark with sunspider which tests javascript. Here's the results:
Stock: 1.7653 seconds
Dolphin HD 5.1.0:1.7919 seconds
Dolphin HD 6.0.0 beta 2:1.8261 seconds
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I use both. I like Dolphin because I am used to it. I've used HD on my phone for a while. It has had it's problems on 5.0. It's getting better with the newer 5.1 releases.
SM0k3Y said:
dolphin is a much better browsing experience in my opinion, i didn't like how slow websites were with flash enabled on the stock browser but then again I haven't switch back to see if it's any better since the update[3.1].
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The current stock browser now lets you set Flash to "on demand" just like Dolphin.
I tried really hard to like Dolphin but I just couldnt get over the interface.
Plus with the stock, I can easily sync my bookmarks, etc to desktop (Chrome).
I use Dolphin, mainly because of its plug-in support.
Anyone tried Firefox on their TF?
I have an issue where dolphina will not load the page.
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I use Dolphin, mainly because of its plug-in support.
Anyone tried Firefox on their TF?
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tried it but got rid of it, ui just need more works imo
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I have an issue where dolphina will not load the page.
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http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/2011/06/04/page-loading-issue-still-exists-try-dolphin-hd-5-0-2-beta/
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I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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Have you tried wiping the cache and history... I've found formatting the internal sd after a while helps, obviously you will loose everything on it, but just back up what you need..
If that dont work try some of the tweaks in the stickes
What ROM are you using?
I really enjoy the layout of Opera Mobile, and I find it to have absolutely no lag whatsoever; even while pages are loading, I can freely scroll around as I please. Granted, I'm using CM7 and have a highly tweaked phone. In general, my phone doesn't really lag at all.
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I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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What websites?
The truth is that every browser lags once a while, we cant help it. Dolphin hd is the best browser without a doubt but it also lags a bit sometimes.
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Browser is laggy when your page is loading, try to wait when it is loaded at full, also when browser loading it is killing apps in background deppending on your page size. Also it is normal that browser laggs with "heavy" pages, there you can do nothing, it will lagg with every browser in this situation.
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Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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seeraj15 said:
Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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Well you can do one thing, use dolphin browser hd its the best and it has kill ad in which can be downloaded from market and then on the side bar of dolphin browser their is a 1 click option to kill background apps which browsing faster.
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No problems with semaphore kern
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seeraj15 said:
Websites such as sky sports and fantasy premier league take ages to respond when I'm trying to scroll.
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Both sites work perfectly fine on my phone. I have the complete ability to scroll, zoom in, etc. while the site is loading. No lag whatsoever.
upichie said:
Both sites work perfectly fine on my phone. I have the complete ability to scroll, zoom in, etc. while the site is loading. No lag whatsoever.
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Pretty much true.
The only exception, and I've seen this on other sites, are the pages that have large rotating images (JavaScript, not Flash) that fade in and out.
Those pages sometimes experience slowdowns... other than that, both sites are completely smooth for me. (Odexed JVR)
seeraj15 said:
I'm on stock jvs and the browser I'd really laggy when scrolling on some websites. it takes ages to respond. How do I fix it? I've tried stock browser and dolphin
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Perhaps your rom is deodexed. Most deodexed browsers lag. Try using dolphinn browser or opera mobile. Opera isn't as good as dolphin, but it allows you to download from sites like filesonic.
mate i've been over different roms, and different kernels, overclocking etc. There's just some pages where it has always lagged for me. Most seem to be ok, but some are just impossible.. Usually use stock browser, have tried others but for some sites dont think it really matters, it's going to lag either way.
There's an australian footy site over here which has a bit of flash content etc and it takes ages to load even on wifi and can lag bigtime at times. Would be extremely impressed (and jealous) if anyone doesn't have lag on their phones on it.
www.afl.com.au
Yeah some pages the phone with stock browser (or dolphin hd) just can't handle smoothly. Too much going on, need more power like in the SGS2 to really handle it (opera might be better than stock or dolphin hd but I didn't like the interface when I tried it). IIRC the SGS2 has enough juice to play embedded 720p flash video, where 320p is a stretch for the SGS.
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mate i've been over different roms, and different kernels, overclocking etc. There's just some pages where it has always lagged for me. Most seem to be ok, but some are just impossible.. Usually use stock browser, have tried others but for some sites dont think it really matters, it's going to lag either way.
There's an australian footy site over here which has a bit of flash content etc and it takes ages to load even on wifi and can lag bigtime at times. Would be extremely impressed (and jealous) if anyone doesn't have lag on their phones on it.
www.afl.com.au
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Definitely a lot going on at that page. It probably took a solid 10 seconds to fully load it on Wifi, haha. Surprisingly, there were a couple hiccups while it was loading on my phone—but only three very minor hesitations in scrolling in the entire 10 seconds of load time.
Sounds like you guys just need to tweak your phones a little.
With my SGS I get lag in the stock browser, where my Atrix is fine (which I'm guessing has to do with the extra ram).
For any sites on my SGS that lag, (which does include XDA at times) I try to go Opera Mobile whenever possible and that usually is enough for me...
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The browser lags on aforementioned websites. I also experience lag on phonearena.com, pocketnow.com and rebtel.com. This might be related to the ram problem.
The sites don't lag on my zte blade which has 512 MB too. But maybe that has more free ram.
Wonder if galaxy S plus suffers from the same problem. Anyone have experience with SGS Plus or have heard anything about this?
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Definitely a lot going on at that page. It probably took a solid 10 seconds to fully load it on Wifi, haha. Surprisingly, there were a couple hiccups while it was loading on my phone—but only three very minor hesitations in scrolling in the entire 10 seconds of load time.
Sounds like you guys just need to tweak your phones a little.
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yeh it's a heavy site, thought there would of been some problems. but seems yours performed still a bit better than mine. hopefully will get it worked out sometime.
Nothing wrong with your phones dudes, more that enough firepower to browse smoothly.
Just poorly optimized coding imo. To prove this you need to try Opera Mobile.
Same phone, same websites, different browser, NO LAG WHATSOEVER.
- no lag scrolling even while loading
- no lag zooming even while loading
- no lag whatsoever anywhere including that site www.afl.com.au (it just takes a while to load cos its huge, but no lag still)
- flash works great (this MAY lag a bit but that's flash for you on this phone, not opera's fault)
Doesn't matter what android version/kernel you're running either. I tried almost every rom/kernel combo out there (2.2.x, 2.3.x, custom, stock, semaphore, darky, talon, etc), makes no difference for this, really.
That said, other developers need to work better on their software. Opera has just proven it's perfectly possible to browse lag-free and it's not the hardware that's lacking. Although, to be fair, i'm not sure what more could i ask from a browser that opera doesn't provide already.
Interesting one of the sites that lagged really bad in dolphin hd, canadacomputers.com, was much smoother in the stock browser. Odd I though they were pretty the same, although I do notice that stock browser does the white/grey checkerboard thing (also the thing where zooming in blurs until it 're-renders') while dolphin does not. I hate how 'tabs' work in the stock browser though, maybe I'll give opera another shot.
Just wondering what the majority of you are using as your default browser. I've always used Dolphin hd but been getting a lot of force closes. Still use it though as I love all the addons.
Opera for me
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Stock browser
or Chrome sometimes.
ICS +
Stock browser with added features. Works and integrates quite well.
Disabled stock browser, using Chrome Beta for Android, in fricking heaven!
No Flash support, don't care
Using good old Dolphin for PAD browser, imo still the best.
With best regards, maris
Originally using stock ICS browser but this week changed to Opera Mobile. So far it looks and behaves pretty good.
maris__ said:
Using good old Dolphin for PAD browser, imo still the best.
With best regards, maris
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That one hasn't had an update in months I think they've forgotten about it.
Irieone said:
ICS +
Stock browser with added features. Works and integrates quite well.
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The desktop toggle function only seems to work on a few sites for me. I like my sites
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irishmoe said:
That one hasn't had an update in months I think they've forgotten about it.
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Because it didn't need one
Fair enough Maris
Chrome. Works pretty well.
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Chrome. Works pretty well.
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No flash not a problem for you? I watch a few online highlights (football) sites.
I can't try it myself, it's unavailable here.
Chrome is good for me only to grab the websites i 've open on my computer, then copy paste the url in the STOCK browser...
I just hope one day get rid about this CPU eater FLASH!
just trying out opera now, I'm quite surprised. Last time I tried it images on sites wouldn't load for me and it kept opening mobile versions of sites. Granted it was at least 6 months ago that I tried it last but it seems to have improved a lot.
I may stick with it for a while until dolphin gets sorted for ics properly.
veer01_42 said:
Disabled stock browser, using Chrome Beta for Android, in fricking heaven!
No Flash support, don't care
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Love chrome. Did not know even a beta was available. Installing it now.
Stock or Dolphin
I use firefox for the sync and the addon. Plus I've been using firefox on my desktop for like 4 or 5 years
chrome beta so far the best for me...
Try tint browser , very similar to to ics+ browser but alot faster