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Nexus S, a Mac, and Bluetooth.

Why is it so hard for my Mac, or my NS, or visa versa, to swap files back and forth via bluetooth? Music files are fine, but .apk's or what have you do not transfer smoothy and it really agitates me, expecially when I'm charging. Any ideas on how to make any file type transferrable?
Z

No idea but bluetooth file transfer? Who's got that kind of time in 2011, amirite?

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No idea but bluetooth file transfer? Who's got that kind of time in 2011, amirite?
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nournot
transferring a tiny little .apk file thats 75.5kbs via bluetooth is much much faster than busting out the USB cord, enabling USB Mass Driver, waiting for it to pop up, and then dragging and dropping. I'm not transferring my whole music library over to my phone via bluetooth
Think dude, and post replies that'll help in the future. lolzpwnd

just use dropbox and astro - works like a charm for me

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just use dropbox and astro - works like a charm for me
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+1 (but I use Linda instead of Astro). I used to use bluetooth, but dropbox really is loads better. Give it a shot if you haven't before.
Having said that, I've consistently had issues BT transferring files with my Mac, even way back when I was on WM6. It just never plays nice :/

I could never transfer apks using bluetooth on mac...used to be able to transfer folders containing items before but not anymore. Now I just use it to transfer individual stuff.
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as all the people said already
just get your free 2GB Dropbox account and transfer files instantly over WiFi
it's so fast, so simple, and so easy
ages of messing around with the USB / BT is long gone, with all the free cloud services now in days
ztm.000 said:
nournot
transferring a tiny little .apk file thats 75.5kbs via bluetooth is much much faster than busting out the USB cord, enabling USB Mass Driver, waiting for it to pop up, and then dragging and dropping. I'm not transferring my whole music library over to my phone via bluetooth
Think dude, and post replies that'll help in the future. lolzpwnd
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+1 to the dropbox idea. I use it all the time to get stuff between computers, different phones, different partitions etc.

So, I like this dropbox idea, but have never tried it. What are your guys' experiences on it? And how do I acquire it? Is it a market app?
Z

yes available on the market
but you need to setup your account first on the website
there's a link in my siggy
Click here to get your 2 GB FREE!
cloud storage
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Another Dropbox fan here, although I also use sshdroid (ssh server) and transfer stuff with sftp using cyberduck on the mac when i need to.

[Q] Full sized USB and dslr camera?

Anyone try attaching a camera via the full sized USB, I would hope the iconia would act like host for the camera. I would love to carry it around in my camera bag to review shots.
I would be hooking up with a Nikon 3100d, so if someone has the two and hasnt stuck them together, try it! My tablet purchase depends on you...

You could always plug in a USB memory card reader into the USB port to review shots from the camera's memory card.
I've copied some ~10Mb JPGs from a Canon 5DMk2 onto the tablet and they open up fine in the default image viewer program. I doubt there is any form of RAW support though so it may mean shooting in JPG+RAW from now on if you want to open them on the tablet.

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Anyone try attaching a camera via the full sized USB, I would hope the iconia would act like host for the camera. I would love to carry it around in my camera bag to review shots.
I would be hooking up with a Nikon 3100d, so if someone has the two and hasnt stuck them together, try it! My tablet purchase depends on you...
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If I can remember, tomorrow I will hook my 5dII up and see how it works.
I connected up my 5DII and it didn't even register that it was done on either device. My old (broken) Archos A43 worked, but they coded much more robust USB host features. Hopefully ACER can catch up.

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Anyone try attaching a camera via the full sized USB, I would hope the iconia would act like host for the camera. I would love to carry it around in my camera bag to review shots.
I would be hooking up with a Nikon 3100d, so if someone has the two and hasnt stuck them together, try it! My tablet purchase depends on you...
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I have tried to connect a Canon 450d. It didnt work.
Maybe I missed somthing.

Connected to a Nex-5 and had no issues with Photos.
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i am very interested in this feature also.
by default the camera, any camera, when plugged in should immediately be seen by the Acer as a USB storage device and you should be able to pull off the images.
i have a 5D Mark II and 50D and would really lover to be able to pull off images, not as a whole set but individual files.
unlike the ipad where you have to copy the entire memory card to the ipad which is a complete cluster frack if you ask me.
i almost bought the Acer last night but lack of knowledge about camera connections stopped me.

I tried with my D70s. Works PERFECTLY.
except the photos were in .NEF not .JPEG.
As you are also a nikon user, do sth like RAW+BASIC or RAW+FINE to mitigate this

I plugged in a Nikon d3000 on loan to me. It worked perfectly. I was able to browse to the cameras memory, or pull it up in the gallery.
Would be awesome if I could use it as a capture device.
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Not strictly a dslr, but my olympus e-pl2 has no problems being recognised.

Works, hooked up my d3100. You pick the pics you don't want imported.
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This was taken from the Cape Cod Canal.

My old Sony a100 DSLR works fine. Well, jpgs that is.
Of course I only shoot RAW so kind of useless unless I shoot RAW+JPG.

usb compact flash card reader
My Minolta uses compact flash. I have a USB card reader for CF. My Acer a500 will not read the card.

I have a Canon EOS 1000D camera. When connected to my tab I simply don't know how to see the picatues taken. When inserting a sticky I can see the contents in the folder usb_devices but with the camera, how does this work?

I'm running the galaxy rom and I hooked up my girlfriends old camera and the average recognized it and opened gallery to view them.
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I connected my Cannon 60d through usb and galler gallery automatically fired-up and displayed the contents of my camera. I must say this is really a very neat feature.

I might be stating the obvious, but since I didn't see it mentioned in any of the posts so far- Make sure the USB connection settings in the camera is set to "Mass Storage" so that the Tablet will see the camera as basically an external HD.
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...unlike the ipad where you have to copy the entire memory card to the ipad which is a complete cluster frack if you ask me....
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Just a quick comment regarding the part of v_lestat's post above, I own both the Iconia and iPAd2 and love both for mostly different reasons.
I don't know what or how you tried to transfer images from your camera/SD card to the iPad. I assume, that if you did try, you used Apple's 'Camera Connection Kit' to connect the camera to iPad. This loads an Import window when your camera or SD card is plugged in and from here, just tap each picture you want to transfer after they load in the import window and click the 'Import' button, which is next to the 'Import All' button (you can click the Import All button without tap-selecting any images first and the iPad will import every pic on the card that hasn't been imported yet).
Any image on the card that has already been transfered to the iPad using this method will have a green checkmark on it, in the corner, and will not be reimported. Images that were sync'd into a folder on the iPad, but are still on the card/camera can be imported again.
I hope this clears up your confusion and for anyone else that was wondering about importing pix to the iPad as well, and that it wasn't too OT for an Android tablet forum, lol...
Cheers!

Best I recall off the top of my head, the camera needs to support either USB Mass Storage (acting as a USB drive, Mass Storage Class) or MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) connectivity.

Olympus Pen E-PL1
I hook mine up to my tablet anytime I want to dump pics. I'm using the Picasso ROM and all I have to do is mount my camera as an external USB hard drive and it's good to go. Gallery lets me pick and choose what photos I want.

Is it possible to use the Iconia to copy images from a MicroSDHC card to an external USB Hard Drive? I'm thinking of using this to tablet to take to trips without having to lug around a full laptop and just copying files from my camera to a small hard drive. Does anyone do this already? Will the Acer Iconia allow this or should I look towards another solution?

gammaRascal said:
My old Sony a100 DSLR works fine. Well, jpgs that is.
Of course I only shoot RAW so kind of useless unless I shoot RAW+JPG.
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use RawDroid to view RAW images. It's still in development, but for simply looking at your RAW files, works like a charm.
Also works for Nikons if I recall.

[SEMI-SOLVED]Use USB OTG as default sd[SEMI-SOLVED]

I'd been trying to find a way To use the USB OTG as the default sdcard. But everything I see simply allows for it to be used as storage. This method will allow you to install apps to it, using the thumb drive as default storage. Essentially I believe it does what android x86 does when it allows you to set the HDD as an sdcard, just uses apps to accomplish it. I didn't make any of these apps and the idea isn't really mine either, heard it from someone else.
1 - Format your USB Drive to ntfs
2 - download and install ParagonNTFS
3 - download and install NtfsSd
4 - Plug in your USB drive, open paragonNTFS, and go to settings-->check and fix, then mount the drive
*the check and fix will tell you the path to the USB drive /Dev/block/xxxxxx (probably /dev/block/sda1)*
5 - open NtfsSd and go to menu-->preferences
6 - change Mount device to /Dev/block/xxxxxx (gotten in step 4, and again, probably /dev/block/sda1)
7 - make sure external storage is set to /storage/sdcard0
8 - click mount in NtfsSd
Enjoy the storage
ISSUES I'VE COME ACROSS
---You cannot currently see BOTH the built in storage and USB storage at the same time, its either one or the other. I personally resolved that by copying the contents of my internal storage to my USB drive prior to mounting it in NtfsSd
---In order to get back to your internal storage you have to unmount in NtfsSd FIRST, then unmount in ParagonNTFS
IF YOU CANNOT SEE YOUR INTERNAL STORAGE AFTER UNMOUNTING THE USB DRIVE SIMPLY REBOOT YOUR NEXUS BY HOLDING THE POWER BUTTON FOR 30 SECONDS

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This seems awesome but you would always have to keep in the usb drive right?
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This seems awesome but you would always have to keep in the usb drive right?
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Only as long as you want to use the extra storage. The biggest issue I have is that when I want to charge I can't use the USB storage at the same time lol. So I in plug it, charge it, then mount the storage again

Sounds really cool, but how are your I/O speeds? I know it will probably vary greatly from person to person due to the differences between USB cables and drives, but just wondering what your personal experience has been.

According to antutu benchmark I'm getting 8.5 MB/s write and 13.5 MB/s read. Normally I get about 20 MB/s read/write off the USB storage. Like you said, I'm sure different cables and different drives(especially different drives) would change that

lp894 said:
According to antutu benchmark I'm getting 8.5 MB/s write and 13.5 MB/s read. Normally I get about 20 MB/s read/write off the USB storage. Like you said, I'm sure different cables and different drives(especially different drives) would change that
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Not bad, thats higher than I expected. Thanks for this, its pretty cool! May do it one day when I run out of space on this trusty 8gb

rohan32 said:
Not bad, thats higher than I expected. Thanks for this, its pretty cool! May do it one day when I run out of space on this trusty 8gb
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I meant I normally get about 20 MB/s on the built-in storage so the USB storage averages about half of that...which isn't terrible. and unless i'm doing anything super intensive i don't see why i'd need much faster speeds. that's still 68mbps write and 108mbps read. Still can play HD video, I haven't tried any games or anything yet though. I plan to download a large game(probably Batman) and see how that runs off of the USB.

this would be awesome for games that take up Huge amounts of storage .. most are now getting 1.3 gb and more...

erica_renee said:
this would be awesome for games that take up Huge amounts of storage .. most are now getting 1.3 gb and more...
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Games especially since the movies and music you could already store on your usb drive and use the standard OTG method. Like you said though, games are easily 1gb+ and on an 8gb device(which I have) space quickly becomes a hot commodity lol

Hello I have just registered to say thank you for the guide, also I have figured out how to switch back to internal storage without rebooting.
You have to just make sure that every app that has been run while USB in is force closed in app info, I was having problems with drive getting corrupted every time but since doing this It has been fine.
Also I noticed on some custom ROMs eg, paranoid android, omega kaos, it automounts anyway without paragon in storage and gets confused you have to unmount in storage settings and manually mount in paragon then NTFS SD, then unmount again in storage settings, winning
Thanks I was trying to use external to internal SD app on play store to do whole card swap but after a reboot all apps that were installed would be disappeared as that app didnt seem to work for me like it has for three other devices, maybe in conjunction with this guide it may work but I'm happy now and been upgrading redownloading apps for a week I won't be messing with it till I have to.
Thanks again,
P.s anyway to edit ROM so it doesn't system mount as I could not get NTFS SD to work without paragon, says 3g-mount busy or unavailable
Edit, I had problems with permissions using this method, been using script method but just mounted whole sdcard/android been running sweet since, just have to click script when needed. Copied over android folder from sdcard to USB etc first if not fresh system.
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Replying to kinda mark the thread and say thanks.
I will be doing this to a Android TV(Android on a stick) iMito MX1 that I ordered. it only has 8Gb for internal storage so it's limited. I have several hard drives lying around and am going to hook a 500Gb one up to the unit and see if this will kick over from internal to the hard drive. If it works then I will have tons of space to download all the big games to play on my TV with a controller of mouse KB combo
I hope this works.

This seems like a great way for us tightwads who got the 8gb version to get some space, lol. Should work well with games as long as the i/o speeds don't cause lag.

hi, what kernel should i use to make ntfssd work?

somebody needs to go develop a rubberized protective case/sleeve (like what google sells) with an included 64GB sd card and a built in OTG USB plug that slips right into the miniUSB on the N7... wouldn't that be cool, especially if it mounted and unmounted automatically upon plug in, and allowed for the installation of large APPs extra data packages!

does this work on 4.2.1 ?

Nope doesnt work un 4.2.1 se need and update
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mount option
Hey what I choose when mount in paragon NTFS
Either automatic mounting
Or
Advanced choose option to mount

Hi,
anybody still using this approach? I was trying to follow the instruction but I did not succeed. I was not able to mount my ntfs-formated usbstick on Android 5.

@Ip894 Please upload a video regarding the steps .. thanks

[Q] [i9505] S4 Corrupting Music Library!

Hey everybody,
So, I recently bought a Samsung 64gb SD card for my i9505 to put music on, but I'm running into some troubles with it.
Basically, all the music copies over fine, but it corrupts once I try to play it.
I have tried copying it from my iTunes library via iSyncr, via Easy Tunes Sync, as well as just drag and drop. I have converted them when the phone asks me to (I have tried both, converted and non-converted).
I have tried both in the regular Samsung Music player, as well as PlayerPro (the player I use normally). To give you an idea, here is what the files look like before I try to play the music:
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And here's what it looks like AFTER I play:
Another weird thing, is SOME songs work (only artists who start with D through to I - it's not random, JUST that chunk of music plays). If I try to play in Music app, it just skips the track. If I try in PlayerPro, I get 'Sorry, this audio file could not be played in the player'. Weird thing is, they're all mp3s, no DRM.
I've done some searching around and some people have suggested clearing data in the Media Storage app, but I've tried that and it doesn't work for me.
Has anyone got any ideas that might help?
PS. I'm rooted and running Goldeneye 16.2.
Before anyone suggests that it might be the ROM, I doubt it. I came from CyanogenMod 4.3 and the issue was happening there as well (I thought maybe switching back to a Sammy ROM might help)
The only other option I really have left is to get rid of root and go back to pure stock I don't really want to do that but I can't keep streaming all my music, it's wrecking my data usage =\

What format ? (the card)

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What format ? (the card)
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It's FAT32 - when formatting the drive I've been using the 'default' option for formatting in CWM Recovery.
I also have the option to use exFat or NTFS.

OK. Does the custom kernel you're running support NTFS ? (stock doesn't). If it does, try formatting the card NTFS, put your music on & see what happens. If you're not running one that does support it, try one that does. And yeah, you could try exFAT as well I guess.
In saying all that, you're right though. All DRM free mp3's doing that is not normal. Next step after that is trying another card.

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OK. Does the custom kernel you're running support NTFS ? (stock doesn't). If it does, try formatting the card NTFS, put your music on & see what happens. If you're not running one that does support it, try one that does. And yeah, you could try exFAT as well I guess.
In saying all that, you're right though. All DRM free mp3's doing that is not normal. Next step after that is trying another card.
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I'm running Talexop kernel which is built off stock, and it doesn't say anything about NTFS so I'm guessing its a no go.
Do you have any recommendations for a solid NTFS kernel?

Don't use it personally, first page of kernel threads/XDA search is your best bet.

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Don't use it personally, first page of kernel threads/XDA search is your best bet.
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Tried ExFat, no luck. Though on ExFat it does something different. MORE of the songs play, but some artists are missing completely. There is no consistency with the problems I'm experiencing.
EDIT: Tried a SanDisk card instead of the Samsung one - worked fine. Guess Samsung hardware doesn't play nice with Samsung hardware?

Really ?? Yeah, that's a real case of WTF !? (two bits of manufacturer's kit not playing nice with each other). At least you got it sorted eventually

Ways of Getting Outside Files Directly to External Storage in 4.4

I posted this in another thread but thought it might be generally helpful as the "unrooted" deal with the external storage limitations of 4.4...
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@BarryH_GEG could I tranfer lets say a film from Internal Storage to SDCard on KitKat??
Thanks in advance.
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The work-around to getting pretty much anything to external SD is Samsung's My Files. The challenge is moving huge files, that or moving a lot of files simultaneously that are collectively huge. There might not be enough free space on your internal storage to get the files on to your device. Here's a couple of ways of getting files directly to external storage. Like everyone else I'm not thrilled with the new external SD card restrictions but there are ways to accomplish pretty much anything. The only thing I haven't found a work around for is syncing. I ended up moving a bunch of apps and files to external storage so I could move my sync folders to internal storage.
You can setup a two-window instance of My Files and drag-and-drop content directly from Dropbox to External SD.
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You can also use Samsung Link to transfer files from another Samsung device, a PC, or a cloud service (Dropbox, OneDrive, Box) directly to external storage. IMHO, Samsung Link is one of the most overlooked features Samsung provides. It's fantastic for managing and viewing files across devices. For example, I can take a picture with my Gear which transfers it to my N3. I can view, edit, and share the pic from my N10.1-14 or PC seconds later. Anyway, here's a screen shot of it.
One of the great features of Samsung Link is that all registered devices are available to all other registered devices whether or not they're on the same Wi-Fi network. It even works over 3/4G. When devices are on the same network they have root access to each other. When they're not they have access to up to 10 user-specified folders or directories.

Another Possible Workaround for SD Card Files
This might be a work around for some users that have different files on your sd card. If you hook up your tablet to a computer (I used Windows 7) with the provided usb cable, Windows will see your device both the internal and external card. You can create folders through your pc and simply put your different files in the folders, for example for pdf's you could make a folder pdf then put all your pdf's into the folder, you can even drag and drop on the computer. I did that with a bunch of mp3's I had. I then used ES File Explorer to navigate to the folder on my tablet and all the files were available and worked properly. Might not be for everyone but I hope it helps for some users with the Kit Kat limitations.

It might be useful to note that the stock browser can also download files directly to the SD card in any folder you want.
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