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Making a backup of an SPL, and some other noob questions

I'm wanting to flash my HTC Magic (32B) to an Android 2.1 + Sense UI ROM. I've read a million HowTo guides (some better than others ), I've decided on my ROM and Recovery Image, got all the tools installed, and I'm ready to rock n' roll.
Only there is one little problem: I have a "perfect" SPL (1.33.0006, to be precise). Now the solution is fairly simple, update the SPL to an Engineering SPL, and I'll be able to go my merry way, however before that, I need to figure out a few things:
1) Is it possible to roll back to an older SPL? Eg if I updated to say Engineering SPL 1.33.2010 from Amon_RA's Magic SPL HBOOT collection, would I be able to roll back to 1.33.0006 at a later date?
2) Can I make a backup of my current SPL, for the above purposes?
3) What's the deal with Radios? There are plenty of guides and threads about ROMs and SPLs, but very little about Radios. Would I need to update my radio (RADIO-2.22.19.26I) if I used an Engineering SPL (eg Eng SPL 1.33.2010)?
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
Currently running stock Android 1.6 (which seems rather slow compared to 1.5 it was running before it updated).

If you can boot into recovery to flash a new SPL then your current one is not perfected and does not need to be changed.

I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart). Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.

karl_eller said:
I can't boot into recovery. Home + Power On brings the phone to the screen with an exclamation mark in a triangle, and then it hangs (need to pull the battery out to restart).
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You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
karl_eller said:
Also, remote fastboot from the PC command line fails (Remote: not allow). And according to the XDA's Magic wiki page, 1.33.0006 is one of the known perfected SPLs, which it seems that most of the Australian Magics are shipping with.
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Unfortunately they are not only shipping them with perfect SPLs, but forcing them upon users post-repair. Had a very unfortunate dealing with Fonebiz in Melbourne, HTC's only authorised repairer in Australia, they took my easy to deal with 1.33.0004 Kiwi Magic and put one of their dirty Aussie boards in it and gave me an equally dirty 1.33.0007.
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
karl_eller said:
Phone Details:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.006 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:06:41
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Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?

alliekhat said:
You should only need to press Home + Back (IIRC) to bring up the recovery menu to be able to reboot from this screen instead of pulling the battery.
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Pressing Home+Back doesn't bring up a recovery menu, but it does reboot the phone.
alliekhat said:
But as you know, this is easily fixed with an engineering spl, but the bottom line is that 'technically' your warranty is void. In all my searching I failed to find any command that would in effect pull the current spl off the phone. That being said I would imagine that grabbing the correct sappimg.nbh that contains the hboot.img matching yours and ripping it out (possibly with psas?) The only issue you're faced with there is finding that single correct file.
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Ok, thanks for that. I guess I won't bother trying to back up my current SPL
alliekhat said:
Upgrading your radio shouldn't be necessary, I'm on the stock 2.22.09.26I with 1.33.2005.
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It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
alliekhat said:
Also, just wondering if your details were as you posted out of the box, or are they the result of a repair?
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Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B

karl_eller said:
It looks like most of the ways to break a perfect SPL require reflashing the Radio anyway, so I might not have much choice.
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Indeed, but if you read the guides fully you are walked through reflashing the stock radio when you're done downgrading. The guide I followed included flashing a sappimg.zip the basically gave it the SPL and radio of a 32A device, then reverting it back to 32B, so you're never stuck with an upgraded radio just because you have an engineering SPL.
karl_eller said:
Details were from a phone new out of the box. I haven't quite figured out why my phone is SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B while almost everyone else is SAPHIRE PVT 32B
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From my own personal experience it seems to me that this Unknown vs PVT thing is in fact related to the SPL. I started with 1.33.0007 and Unknown, while following the guide at http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/14/how-to-root-your-mytouch-3g/ my SPL was changed to 0009 and PVT, then once I flashed the engineering SPL 2005 I was back to Unknown again.
Would be very interested to find out what goes on with yours during the rooting process, if you wouldn't mind

Well, I just flashed the SPL to ENG 1.33.2010 by using this guide to make the gold card:
theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
And this guide to flash the SPL (using the provided 1.33.2010 SPL):
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548218
Flash went successfully, and the phone data now reads:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2010 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Time to start flashing some ROMs

Ok, I may have hit a snag. I rooted the phone following the Unlockr guide, and then followed the next guide to install a Hero ROM on the Magic:
theunlockr.com/2009/08/17/how-to-load-hero-onto-your-mytouch-3g/
Except I used a different ROM to that.
Unfortunately I now have the problem that when I try and boot normally, the phone will hang at the Vodafone screen. I can still boot into recovery (recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.6.2G), and I can still fastboot, but it won't boot a ROM normallly.
Phone Details currently:
SAPPHIRE UNKNOWN 32B ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
I can run 32A ROMs such as Amon_RA's 32A based image (as per the Unlockr rooting guide), but any 32B ROM will freeze. Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
Ok, about 5 minutes after post thing, I WAS able to get a 32B rom to work. This one, in fact:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624411
However I still can't get the Android 2.1 ROM that I want to try to work:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644275

have you had any further success with this, been able to load a ROM?

Radio Downgrade

Hey guys and gals. I was trying to root my 1.2 and accidentally started throwing on random SPL and radios for the recovery attempt (still stuck with splash). I downgraded to the stock SPL
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-6.35.10.18
Oct 21 2009,22:33:27
but gets stuck when updating from sapp.img local on the radio part. Any help would be awesome!

You'll need to use a gold card and put the 1.33.2010 eng spl then use adb to flash back to stock spl and radio. Should just follow the rooting instructions at theunlockr...

so I tried the 2010 spl. The system loads and installs successfully, but the radio version still has problems downgrading to 3.22. Still no recovery screen and I tried the G and H old/new versions. grrrr... I may just give up and JTAG it

kool_guy625 said:
so I tried the 2010 spl. The system loads and installs successfully, but the radio version still has problems downgrading to 3.22. Still no recovery screen and I tried the G and H old/new versions. grrrr... I may just give up and JTAG it
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I'm in the same situation, I think. You have any luck with JTAG or otherwise? Thanks.

kool_guy625 said:
so I tried the 2010 spl. The system loads and installs successfully, but the radio version still has problems downgrading to 3.22. Still no recovery screen and I tried the G and H old/new versions. grrrr... I may just give up and JTAG it
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how did you flash the 2010 spl if you cant get it to pass the bootscreen? did you flash it through HBoot or Fastboot USB?

[Q] Bricked HTC Magic?

My HTC Magic won't boot. This is my problem. It just boots into that logo if i'm trying to boot into fastboot or recovery. As you can see, the blue LED still works. What i tried to do is downgrading the radio (With ClockWorkMod) and the last thing i saw flashing was "Uploading radio image.." and then it rebooted into the state it is in now. Have anyone else experienced this/got a fix? I will love you forever
edit: if you didn't see my link, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-grYLlaUUo

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i think the last fasboot info i saw was
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.76.2007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17

Check if your spl is compatible with your radio. Which did u flash first?
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

thanks for the respond. i think the radio was flashed first. (i used mumilovers fastboot commander)
EDIT: when i think about it, i used the fastboot commander, it flashed the radio, but there was an error flashing the SPL, so i flashed only the SPL via ClockWorkMod, i think the issue is that i didn't have any battery left. and no, that SPL is not compatible with the radio. i think i need 1.33.x SPL

I would have to say u have a brick now. Radio/spl have to be compatible or u will brick it.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

guess i'll turn it in for service then.

[q] help: Very urgent!!!!

Everything was fine running ROM Magic Fusion 2.1 V5 528Mhz, unless some FC...
That why I decided to try a different ROM.
Went for this one:
Ginger yoshi 1.0 RC2 (android 2.3.2) for 32b and 32a now ^_^
Apparently this one asked for Radio Update. Think I did something wrong because the only thing I have when I turn on phone is something like this
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
Hboot - 1.76.0000 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO - 2.22.27.08
nov 3 2009, 15:56:29
Th eonly soluiton I found by myslef was try to flash the original RUU:
RUU_Sapphire_HTC_Europe_3.05.401.1_test_signed_NoDriver.exe
But doing that it always freezes at 36% on RADIO update.
The screen completely white!
What can I do?
Someone said, in another forum, to flash a Stock ROM via fastboot usb, but I don't know how to do it!!!
And I'm afraid to do more wrong things!
I using windows Xp
Last HTC drives V 3.0.5511
Can somebody help me please! I need my phone urgently!!!
Thanks!
Sigla

Looks like you've briked your phone.. But if you can acces "Fastboot" you are saved !
First, download sdk drivers, take a look here, then root, then try Radio Switcher ... and flash CM 6.1.0 DS

32a device? shouldnt that be a 3.22 radio? not the 2708

You have a radio/spl mismatch.
You got 32B radio instead of 32A radio. Plus you got new spl together with "old radio".
Very bad.
You need to flash the 1.33.2010 spl to bring you device into a working state and from there we can fix it.
The problem is you got S-ON which is bad for your situation. But i will try to flash the spl anyway and see if i succeed.
If not, then does custom recovery work?

Thank you mumilover but I'm a newbiw in this (you can ask how a newbie done this mess!! Well, I did it)
I just don't have any idea how to flash 1.33.2010 spl... on the screen, fastboot don't come up, only RUU USB (in yellow)....
I can access only via adb fastboot (windows)....
Any hint you or someone can give me?
Many thanks and sorry the bad english!
Sigla

Download my fastboot commander tool (check my signature - magic version)
Chose to flash the spl/hboot -> navigate to "imgfiles" folder which is bundled with the tool -> chose the 1.33.2010 spl (tagged oldspl)->flash it.
If it goes well then post here and we can fix the rest.
If NOT, then you are kinda fu*ked.

Didint' tested yet, just because I notice you say it's only for S:Off
Mine it's
Sapphire PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
Shall I do it in the same?
Many thanks!
Sigla

No sir, it didn't worked
Anyway, thanks agian for your help!
Any suggestion?
Best regards,
Sigla

Fastboot FAILED... (remote: not allowed) problem!!

Hello everyone!
I need help with my phone ASAP. I recently tried to get Ginger Yoshi 1.5 on my phone but I needed to change my Spl and radio to 1.33.2010 and 3.22.20.17. I managed to change them both but that's when everything started going bad. When I changed them my phone went from 32A to 32B, at that moment I thought something had went wrong so I flashed back my Spl to what I think it was the stock Spl 1.33.0013. After that it went back to 32A but the radio remained 3.22.20.17. I havent changed it back or anything because now my phone is kinda bricked. I only have access to fastboot\hboot screen, but when I try to flash something it wont let me saying "FAILED (remote: not allowed)". If I try to update Hboot mode it says "Model ID incorrect! Update Fail!".
I have been searching for a solution but I haven't seen anybody else with my spl and radio combination. I'm starting to give up hope on my phone . I don't know what to do anymore. I need some help.
Yes, I'm a newbie at this. I think this is my third time changing a ROM.
Thanks in advanced for any help and/or advice!
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-3.22.20.17
OCT 21, 2009, 22:33:27

Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.

nikosdd said:
Do you have access at android?If yes try rooting and flash custom recovery.Then flash from recovery new unlocked Hboot.
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Hi there! If by that you mean if I can actually boot a ROM then I can't, it stays in the HTC Magic screen. Or if you mean if I can get adb connection with cmd I can't also because it does not recognizes my phone. All I get access to is fastboot and hboot, though it doesn't work either.. I try to flash a new radio, spl or recovery image but it does not works. Maybe I need a new goldcard? Since it says model ID incorrect.
Thanks for your help!

Your phone is MyTouch 3G v1.2 with audiojack 3.5" and it is NOT common 32A. Don't use manuals for Magic 32A.
You flashed wrong combo and it is main problem. May be this manual will help, but i have no guarantee
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/11/how-to-root-the-mytouch-1-2-and-fender-mytouch/
p.s. Megaupload links are dead cause US District Court shutdowned this site)
http://www.4shared.com/zip/hW3I1tfT/MyTouch35RootingFiles.html
http://www.4shared.com/zip/ALht1xbT/unlockr_Sappimg_mt3gv12.html
p.p.s. And you need goldcard. Must have goldcard to flash special sappimg.zip
Tech reasons of solution:
- you have perfected HBoot and can't flash anything by 'fastboot flash' command
- you have wrong radio (combo, cause hboot and radio must be together)
- if you will flash special sappimg.zip you will have 1.33.2010 s-off eng hboot. With this hboot you can flash your stock combo back (and don't forget about custom recovery for mt3g v1.2)

Yes my phone is the Fender LE. I found out that even though they say 32A they're actually 32B as well. What a way to get confused. And as you said, some links are broken because of megaupload no longer existing . I couldn't find the files that I needed. My phone is now fixed running Cyanogenmod 6.1.0 (I gave up trying to flash ginger yoshi, I don't lke the idea of having to change spl and radio).
After I found out what I had to do to fix it I thought that it wasn't so big of a deal, just flash a sappimg file with a diferent Spl and that is it, S-off and an Eng spl.
Though when it said "Model ID incorrect" I had no idea why that happened. I had to open the Hex editor again an re-edit my Sd card's code with the goldcard I had created before. After that everything went back to normal, I flashed CM6 and now my phone is up and running like a charm!
I've seen some other users with the same problem I had, maybe if someine would explain them what they need to do to fix it would be a good idea.
Thanks for explaining! And for the links.
This is what I now have:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0013 (SAPP31000)
CPLD-13
RADIO-2.22.xx.xx (I forgot the last 4 numbers )
Running CM6.1.0

Now can not download the Stock rom with root for MT3G 32A 1.2 because all the link are dead. Could you please give a helping hand?
Thank

See if you find the rom in this link.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android

Thank you,
but still can't