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Im using internet sharing. Not the hot spot. Can I cancel the hot spot and save the $30. a month and still use internet sharing. Thanks
Yes you can. The wifi hot spot is only necessary if you want to turn your devices into a WiFi hot spot so other devices could use it, such as the iPad. If you just want to have internet access for your own laptop/desktop, just use the usb cable and you're off and running.
If you root your phone, free wifi tether is now working as of yesterday.
use the wifi tethering that ChrisDos referenced. it works flawlessly!
ChrisDos said:
If you root your phone, free wifi tether is now working as of yesterday.
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I was using PDAnet on our Evo's until yesterday. Now both are rooted and using WiFi tether and work just fine. No extra $30 per Evo to sprint here.
Thanks
Thanks Alot. New the the droid world. Learning. Been an wm user for years.
Dont feel bad. Ive been WiMo for years also. Android is totally new but I should have crossed over long before now.
When is 2.2 scheduled for release? Would it be smart to wait til after 2.2 to root my phone, is there any reason to wait or will they be able to do anything with 2.2 that could block me from the update if I have a rooted phone?
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Im using internet sharing. Not the hot spot. Can I cancel the hot spot and save the $30. a month and still use internet sharing. Thanks
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The USB internet sharing option won't work without the plan. You can use it to share a wifi connection, but not your mobile connection.
If you want to keep using USB tethering without the $30 fee, you can install Android Wired Tether. Only the official version won't work for the Evo, the Eris and a couple other HTC phones.
Here's the version that works on our phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=351324&d=1277754525
It's attached to this post in the HTC Legend forum, but it was originally tested on the Evo.
Guys a sprint rep told me its 30 bucks either way.. i don't know if they are right or not i would be giants recommend rooting your phone .. look into unrevoked
*This was posted from my Evo 4G using Tapatalkpro! Great app, if you want to browse and post through many dfferent forums*
whoops wrong thread
Ok one of the reasons I mainly got this phone was the mobile hotspot feature because the internet at my college blows and it would be nice for everyone to be able to browse the internet in a single dorm and not just 2 people. Unfortunately Sprint has made it so this feature costs an addition 25 with your bill. I don't pay the bill so this isn't an option for me. I heard that if you root the epic, you can use the mobile hotpot feature for free. I haven't rooted it yet but I have the z4 root application on my phone. So how can I go about doing this?
Run z4root and then download and run wireless tether. Its not on the market so google it and you will find the latest version. I don't recall whether it will run on a stock kernel; if not you'll want to install a custom rom.
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It is usually usable only on the Eclair build when rooted. Sometimes not ;-)
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Ok I found a hit on google for wireless tether on google code. The only samsung glaxy device I saw said it ran on 1.5 but I'm on 2.1 so it should work right. I'm not sure if the device listed works with epic but it said galaxy device. Also will sprint notice the increase of data usage and charge me more?
Nope, unless you start dl movies.
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So standard internet browsing should be fine then?
Your expectations are unrealistic and this is a really easy subject to search for.
I don't unerstand how my expectations are unrealistic but thanks for the responses anyways.
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Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
If you are on 2.1 the best way is to get clockwork (use the one click root) then find mobile ap in the dev section and apply the zip. Way more stable than wireless tether in my experience.
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Jayavarman said:
Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
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Thanks much Jay. Gonna give that link the once over before I mess with the phone itself. Thanks ipaq as well. I'll check that out if I find any problems with the one in Jay's link.
Definitly if you are staying on stock rom, use mobile ap, it is soooooooooo much better then wireless tether, and if you follow my tutorial after rooting and getting clockwork first you can have themes with it too.
I think what he's trying to say about your expectations is you think you can do this and give everyone internet on your dorm. Do you know how slow that will run? Also you can only connect so many devices at one time. I don't know how many for wireless tether but mobile AP is 5. Yes wireless tether is a great feature its just not going to meet your expectations for helping a while dorm out.
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What college do you attend?
Am I missing the OP's question that Sprint called this device a mobile hotspot?? Is Sprint lying?
If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
If you have an epic 4g you have unlimited (truely unlimited) data...they are not going to say anything regardless of how much data you use. That being said spint will not Check the status of your phone (root or un rooted). You are go to go on tethering
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
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Yeah, I don't plan on doing anything crazy like torrenting. I'd use this to tether my iPad if I'm in an airport or on a long trip, or maybe if I'm on vacation and don't wanna pay $10-30 for the hotel's wifi. That's all. Nothing mundo crazy where I'm using gigs of transfers.
Thanks for letting me know!
I have a question that I hope someone here can answer.
I've toyed with the idea of installing one of the hotspot programs. But, I'm very wary of surfing the Net without a NAT/firewall between my Windows box and the Net. Do these programs provide firewall-type protection to the machines that are surfing through them?
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Just updated my Droid X to the newest Gingerbread leak (so called 'OTA'). 3G Mobile Hotspot seems to be working perfectly without me signing up for it. Is there a risk by doing this? No where does it say that I am signing up for 3G Mobile Hotspot by using it. It just ... works.
ya its weird... I'm running stock & mine does the same it just warns you about the battery being used up... I didn't sign up or anything... I use easytether just to be on the safe side but I dunno
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Just updated my Droid X to the newest Gingerbread leak (so called 'OTA'). 3G Mobile Hotspot seems to be working perfectly without me signing up for it. Is there a risk by doing this? No where does it say that I am signing up for 3G Mobile Hotspot by using it. It just ... works.
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Considering you are stealing, yes, I'd say its risky.
Maybe you had ran the TBH patch?
I'm on Cricket. I'm using rooted GB and the stock 3G Mobile Hotspot app works fine for me as well. Never used the TBH patch or any market-acquired tethering apps.
Not sure what Cricket would think of me tethering, but I am on the $55 Android plan (unlimited everything). I might tether once or twice a month, if that, so I'm not really worried about any repercussions.
It's not risky. He's not rooted. Verizon is allowing FREE access to the 3G Mobile Hotspot at the moment just as it's allowing free access to it on the Thunderbolt. This is widely known. In order to flash the newest version of GB, he would have had to SBF back to .340 first, which would have negated his TBH hacks.
http://droidattic.com/News/Verizon-Offering-FREE-Mobile-Hotspot-From-March-17-Through-May-15.html
yea im on cricket also and have no problem with 3g hotspot its not stealing when u pqy for unlimited data... especially considering cricket doesnt have a plan for tethering. just mho...
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Considering you are stealing, yes, I'd say its risky.
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If you are going to espouse opinion, please at least have the courtesy of backing it up with more contextual data.
Some of you zealots are so fevered about proclaiming tethering as "stealing" that its sickening. Its a talking point that people just copy and paste into their brain for mass broadcasting. You didn't even take the time to investigate this particular situation. You just logged in, pasted in your standard "stealing" talkpoint, and backed it up with no other supporting arguments. In this scenario, the hotspot is FREE, but I'm sure you'll still call it "stealing".
Its your phone and your data plan. Let people make their own decisions. Personally, I rarely tether as I have no other devices and already have a home internet connection. However, I feel as long as only 1 device is using the data plan actively, then you are fully entitled to use it as you see fit.
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If you are going to espouse opinion, please at least have the courtesy of backing it up with more contextual data.
Some of you zealots are so fevered about proclaiming tethering as "stealing" that its sickening. Its a talking point that people just copy and paste into their brain for mass broadcasting. You didn't even take the time to investigate this particular situation. You just logged in, pasted in your standard "stealing" talkpoint, and backed it up with no other supporting arguments. In this scenario, the hotspot is FREE, but I'm sure you'll still call it "stealing".
Its your phone and your data plan. Let people make their own decisions. Personally, I rarely tether as I have no other devices and already have a home internet connection. However, I feel as long as only 1 device is using the data plan actively, then you are fully entitled to use it as you see fit.
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I hate to engage in this troll fest, but I just couldn't pass this up.
From the VZW Terms of Service:
http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/bba_terms.html
Customers who do not have dedicated Mobile Broadband devices cannot tether other devices to laptops or personal computers for use as wireless modems unless they subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect.
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You can 'feel' however you want about it. If you tether without having the appropriate plan, you are breaking the TOS.
VZW does evidently have a special going on until May 15 where tethering is free, so you are not stealing if that special applies.
Having said all of that, I too like to be able to tether my laptop in an emergency. I also occasionally tether my Tablet for Navigation. But just because we want to, doesn't mean its legal.
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I hate to engage in this troll fest, but I just couldn't pass this up.
From the VZW Terms of Service:
http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/bba_terms.html
You can 'feel' however you want about it. If you tether without having the appropriate plan, you are breaking the TOS.
VZW does evidently have a special going on until May 15 where tethering is free, so you are not stealing if that special applies.
Having said all of that, I too like to be able to tether my laptop in an emergency. I also occasionally tether my Tablet for Navigation. But just because we want to, doesn't mean its legal.
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This from the guy that not only steals other peoples spaceships but even stole his own spaceship.
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Not sure where to post this but if you use the tethering mod be careful, you might get caught in this. Any tethering mod (including the webtop dock hack i think)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ally-tethering-will-be-moved-to-tiered-plans/
Even the wireless tether for root users app?
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Search!
This topic has been covered several times over several months!
There has to be a file that stores tethering info and somehow submits it to AT&T. Is there a way of "freezing" anything collects data on our phones? I honestly think it's BS that I need a tethering plan for the lapdock....It's not like it's a seperate computer. I upgraded my sons line when I bought the Atrix and lapdock and then moved the Atrix to my number and dropped his 4gig tether plan to the 2 gig plan. (I didn't want to lose my unlimited..LOL)
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This topic has been covered several times over several months!
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Click the link before telling someone to search - this is a NEW notice from AT&T, posted today, that says they're going to start kicking people off their unlimited plans if they tether "illegally" (what a load of BS).... This is new and relevant, and I just bumped the other thread discussing this because of it's importance!
I don't think you have to worry about this on an android phone. I've never heard or read anywhere where an android user has been contacted by at&t. It mainly applies to iphone and how iphone users can tether using various apps. Android has its own internal routing and assigns ip addresses like a dhcp server where as an iphone (I think) may pull ipaddresses off att's network.
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I don't think you have to worry about this on an android phone. I've never heard or read anywhere where an android user has been contacted by at&t. It mainly applies to iphone and how iphone users can tether using various apps. Android has its own internal routing and assigns ip addresses like a dhcp server where as an iphone (I think) may pull ipaddresses off att's network.
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That's funny because there is a thread right above this one in the list where all the people who received letters from AT&T were chatting about it. Guess they were hallucinating?
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I have only heard of this happening to iphone users. I tether constantly with no warnings
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A buddy of mine got a letter and it was because he was using the MyWi app. My wife uses is very rarely if the kids want to download an app from the app store. I think since iOS 4.?, there might something that recognizes when the phone is tethering and how much data was used during that time frame. You can use your phone for an hour from 3-4pm and look at your data usage the next day and your phone notifies AT&T in the middle of the night how much data was used that day... shows up as internet/media net on the bill.
The article is in regards to tethering apps not APN mods and even the article talks about the iphone not android. We seem to be safe for now
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GarciaM25 said:
Click the link before telling someone to search - this is a NEW notice from AT&T, posted today, that says they're going to start kicking people off their unlimited plans if they tether "illegally" (what a load of BS).... This is new and relevant, and I just bumped the other thread discussing this because of it's importance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998148
Like I said................already covered..............there was no need to start a new thread about the same topic!
Can we avoid the "potential" flame wars?
Atrix forums has enough problems as it is on XDA...
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That's funny because there is a thread right above this one in the list where all the people who received letters from AT&T were chatting about it. Guess they were hallucinating?
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All the people who received letters from the other thread were iphone users... If you read the other thread you'll even see where several people told them to stop talking about iphones issues in an android forum. Unless your using an app that isn't baked into the os to share your wifi connection, I honestly don't think you have to worry about this as the method of "sharing" is different from ios.
This thread should be locked down as there is already a continuous one going (duplicate thread).
Hey guys sorry if this question has been answered but is there anyway to get the webtop to work without tethering? Thanks a lot guys.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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I have read that webtop should work when you are on wifi, but that's just what I've heard since I don't use it. If you're trying to use it while on AT&T's data network then, yes, you need tethering but there are tethering and webtop hacks galore in the "noob" thread that is stickied at the top of the "General" forum.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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Also, try not to take anything personally. This is an internet forum, just let it roll off your back.
Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G. Webtop works fine on wifi... And before gingerbread, there used to be a way to get it to work without a tethering plan. That is why I asked this "n00b" question that nobody seems to have an answer for.
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Have you tried the "Entitlement" mod (enabling tethering)? It should be the one right above or below the Webtop link.
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Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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No problem, hope you find something that works. Like I've said, I don't use it so I don't know what would actually work.
Also, like I've said, you can't take things personally on the internet, but if I can give some advice. Try to be more descriptive in your comments especially when starting an entire thread. Include things like what "mods" you have already used, and maybe include what ROM you're using and what resources you have already searched through for answers, you could even go as far as describing the steps you are using when encountering the issue. All of this helps the rest of us help you. Your original post "looks" like a "noob" question and that's like blood in the water for the sharks.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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OP asked a valid question and didn't deserve to be noob-bashed. I have the same issue. I have done the "entitlement" hack using the SQLLite Editor to set the "Entitlement Check" field to "0", and I am able to use my Atrix as a mobile hotspot without a tethering plan.
However, when I attempt to use Firefox on the Lapdock while connected via 3G (WiFi off), a popup appears saying "Verifying AT&T account status for webtop...". Then, after a few seconds, it fails and another dialog pops up saying "The Firefox browser requires a Wi-Fi connection or appropriate data plan. Please use Wi-Fi or call AT&T Customer Service at 1-800-331-0500 to add the appropriate data plan to your account"
Any help would be appreciated.
Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
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Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
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Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
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You might try turning off the "Mot mobile device extensions" addon and see what happens.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
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Obviously that would never be detected, but ATT does consider it tethering. Total BS if you ask me, all the doc is is an external screen/keyboard/pad/battery, it is in no way a seperate system.
The odd thing is that while using a StarHub prepaid sim in Singapore on my unlocked ATT Atrix it doesn't do that check, only when I use my ATT sim.
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Thanks that solution works
Thanks everyone for suggesting the "hotspot" trip. I am curious as to why this needs to be done is we are using the entitlement hack. Does anyone know why this is or is the just the way to get around having to pay twice for data? Also, have you guys noticed a big hit in your battery life when using the hotspot tethering? I'm just happy that this solution works because I got the lapdock just for this reason.
There is something in the ATT firmware that recognizes when the phone is using an ATT sim and disables data connections to the webtop environment. The whole time I was in Singapore using a StarHub Green prepaid sim my phone never did that "Verifying account blablablah..." when I docked the phone in my LapDock, as soon as I docked it I could start using Firefox.
An interesting note: the phone disables all data connections for a moment when it does this check. I noticed it because Pandora died on me one day when I was listening and I docked my phone. I watched the connectivity arrows on the H+ icon the next time I docked my phone and they went away for a few seconds just as that toaster notification popped up. Even with the Entitlement Mod this happens.
Hotspot tethering will kill your battery life, although that battery life is augmented by the lapdock. I'm pretty sure you can turn tethering off once you've started up Firefox and are browsing away. Don't ask me how I know, a little bird told me.
No, using apps inside the phone view isn't considered tethering. You can use the stock browser inside there without doing anything. If att calls using a non-stock browser tethering, pitch a fit and tell them to piss up a rope.
And regarding my snark earlier: I think a lot of the people who have been here for a while get tired of seeing threads like "Can I haz root on my phone OMG I'm a noob" when we remember discussing the same subject multiple times in the past. I know this particular question has been asked and answered before. I found it ironic that you were being chided by someone who had < 10 posts.
tl;dr - non-ATT sims work without mods, ATT sim data connection gets disabled, this has been covered.