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Is there someway we can have one thread for all the complainers?

I do want to know about legitimate problems with the phone but having it all on one thread would help everyone out to know they could click on ONE thread to find all problems and of course the complainers would have somewhere to vent without pages and pages of the same complaint
Or maybe make a poll
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I think the short answer is no.

Depends, can complaining about the complainers be moved there too?
Telling everyone to search would kind of suck if all issues are moved into one big thread. The default search is just titles IIRC.

Actually, putting all of the complaints, problems, and questions regarding this phone into ONE thread would make things 1000 times harder. The key is putting these threads in the appropriate 'section'. Questions, complaints, or basically ANYTHING not related to the development of the phone belongs in the 'general' section. Its keeps the forum organized and helps people find what they're looking for a lot faster. If you were to put everything into one thread, you're basically eliminating the 'search' feature, which first searches thread titles.

A moderator could really clean shop in here. I could pay a mod to delete about half the thread created today. People who are new to android, and/or this forum clearly don't understand what XDA is about... I know I ask what may seem like dumb questions, but I also help others who are genuinely seeking help, but if I are crying over the Internet about your phone (which some on here do not even own), well I could get banned for telling you what I think of you.

A new forum section would make more sense.

Pneumatic said:
A new
forum section would make more sense.
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Vibrant whining section? Now that gets my vote.
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There are always a select few that just love to complain and act like the few people that have their same issues equals "everyone". I've seen it everywhere and right now, it's more tiring than anything.

Refer them to my post!
LOL! On one hand it is great to have all these new people excited about Android and purchasing the devices.
On the other hand it sure would be nice if they could join a couple of forums and put all the "General" discussion on the other forums and come here to discuss development, modding, and themeing.... But, it just ain't going to happen!

neema said:
Vibrant whining section? Now that gets my vote.
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kudos!
10char

Everyone read

Everyone someone needs to set up an epic rom bible. I would but i dont have an epic. I keep up with stuff for it for a friend and im tired of going through 10 pages to find a single thing for the phone.

I agree,and people need to stop "coming soon" posts.

KellyLewis3985 said:
Everyone someone needs to set up an epic rom bible. I would but i dont have an epic. I keep up with stuff for it for a friend and im tired of going through 10 pages to find a single thing for the phone.
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a bible for 3 roms and 2 kernels and 1 recovery.... totally.... needed... too much reading
no... the problem is with every swinging **** asking their dumbass questions in the developer section..... includeing this one.... mods should be alot stricter on what is considered "dev talk" and what is considered "general talk"
so... what are you actually contributing to this phone programming wise? oh wait... i thought this was a developer question

johnsongrantr said:
a bible for 3 roms and 2 kernels and 1 recovery.... totally.... needed... too much reading
no... the problem is with every swinging **** asking their dumbass questions in the developer section..... includeing this one.... mods should be alot stricter on what is considered "dev talk" and what is considered "general talk"
so... what are you actually contributing to this phone programming wise? oh wait... i thought this was a developer question
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lol... +1

honestly i think the problem is there isnt another place to ask questions about specific roms or root issues
and the roms keep getting bumped down

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honestly i think the problem is there isnt another place to ask questions about specific roms or root issues
and the roms keep getting bumped down
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ask them in the thread that involves that rom, if someone is going to answer you they can do it there... a new topic for each issue isn't the answer

What I meant to say was we need a general question section for the epic

<3me said:
What I meant to say was we need a general question section for the epic
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soooo..... like here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714

+1 lmfao
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+1 and can we change the title of this thread?

amosher13 said:
soooo..... like here? http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=714
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more like http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=747

Quick, everyone internet!
If a bible is made, please keep it locked except for new ROM posts. Otherwise, it will be like every single stinking thread on here and turn into why your grandma thinks the EVO is better than the Epic. Newsflash: no one cares.

Please. No Bibles. I try to avoid religion at all costs as it is the leading cause of insanity.

..Certainly a nice way to encourage involvement. Let me guess, your the "1337" guy that is sittin behind the VIP ropes of the "Dev" section. I had no prior computer experience before rooting my samsung moment 4 months ago, which SDX *graciously lays out in plain form. Since then Ive done a lot of homework and there is a reason why all the noobs go there, b/c they arent pretentious Milli-Vanill's like some on here...Last I checked registration on this was free and w/o dues or fees. Add those both then you may complain about the company you attract.

lame thread is a lame thread.

Totally retarted thread. I shoulda known by the title.

can i haz some cheese?

what happened to SEARCH - its amazing what it turns up if used!!!!!!!!!

Lol @ thinking this thread was going to end up any other way then what it actually did. Awful thread.
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Lol I wasnt posting it as anything but to tell someone to get off there azz and make the epic dev section easier to use.
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A FEW questions (?'s)

Are there any over-clockable kernels for this phone? Also, I heard rooting is typically dangerous on this phone; any way to unbrick if worst comes to worst?
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Yes. A ton. Check the dev section.
There is a certain type of emmc chip that has been known to give out. People call it the "bad emmc." Both my wife and I have it and I flash a LOT. No problems thus far. If it goes bad though, that's it. Its done.
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There are many OC kernels for the phone. The Resource Bible has a list of most of the kernels for our device. Saranhai has made a guide to know if your phone is bricked or not here. You want to check your eMMC chip and many other hardware failures before rooting using Saranhai's guide (again!) from here. If I helped, press the thanks button

I don't understand why you guys keep spoon feeding these people.
The op only has one post, this one. He/she didn't even care to search and get informed. How in the hell you gonna come in here and ask if there's clockable kernels. Seriously? I wish I was a mod. I would give an infraction just for asking that question. Starting to get ridiculous in here now.

coupetastic-droid said:
I don't understand why you guys keep spoon feeding these people.
The op only has one post, this one. He/she didn't even care to search and get informed. How in the hell you gonna come in here and ask if there's clockable kernels. Seriously? I wish I was a mod. I would give an infraction just for asking that question. Starting to get ridiculous in here now.
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I agree. like Ive said before, theres a serious lack of moderation around here. not searching, posting things in the wrong sections, etc...really starting to keep me from even visiting the site sometimes

coupetastic-droid said:
I don't understand why you guys keep spoon feeding these people.
The op only has one post, this one. He/she didn't even care to search and get informed. How in the hell you gonna come in here and ask if there's clockable kernels. Seriously? I wish I was a mod. I would give an infraction just for asking that question. Starting to get ridiculous in here now.
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Well I can't speak for the other guy, but I gave him just enough information for the post to qualify as an answer, but also to try and MAKE him read. I'm trying to be nice nowadays. :shrug:
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coupetastic-droid said:
I don't understand why you guys keep spoon feeding these people.
The op only has one post, this one. He/she didn't even care to search and get informed. How in the hell you gonna come in here and ask if there's clockable kernels. Seriously? I wish I was a mod. I would give an infraction just for asking that question. Starting to get ridiculous in here now.
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Agree 100%. I just wanted to help, although he/she should have done searching....it isn't hard. All in dev or general section!

In regards to the negative posters:
The forums is a place dedicated to people with concern and to people in serious-need of information. In rebut to your misinformed allegations that I "haven't searched, blah blah blah..," you're very wrong. I've kept a steady pace of studying in loo of diving head-first into shallow waters. There were only two, very specific questions. Two that I could not find the answers to, and not because of my "lack of motivation," but due to my ignorance and newly-established relationship with this website. Leave that counterintuitive crap elsewhere and contribute. If you could post unnecessary dribble, you could have just as easily posted something useful.
And to my much appreciated, helpful posters:
Thank you for your simplistic answers that fully answered my question; incredibly helpful select few. Thanks, boys 'n' girls.

I'd rather spoon feed them the answer rather than getting annoyed, flaming them, and all at the same time not answering the question. Because that just causes the thread to go out of hand and have more off topic posts. But if one person just simply answers the question then the thread is left at that.
But to answer, yes there's plenty of kernels for OC'ing. Just search in the dev section for kernels. You really don't need to OC though IMO. 1.1 is highest I ever went with this phone.

Kelevro said:
In regards to the negative posters:
The forums is a place dedicated to people with concern and to people in serious-need of information. In rebut to your misinformed allegations that I "haven't searched, blah blah blah..," you're very wrong. I've kept a steady pace of studying in loo of diving head-first into shallow waters. There were only two, very specific questions. Two that I could not find the answers to, and not because of my "lack of motivation," but due to my ignorance and newly-established relationship with this website. Leave that counterintuitive crap elsewhere and contribute. If you could post unnecessary dribble, you could have just as easily posted something useful.
And to my much appreciated, helpful posters:
Thank you for your simplistic answers that fully answered my question; incredibly helpful select few. Thanks, boys 'n' girls.
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Simply put: its not you, its us. Many of us have been here for quite a while, and have had to deal with these type of questions. Now for this post. The fact that you said that you thoroughly searched is complete bull, you can't scroll through the first page without finding a kernel that mentions over locking. Now for the eMMC I understand your lack of knowledge and abundance of concern because these things aren't cheap. Although you could've searched "check emmc" or something along those lines and come up with the "which eMMC do you have" thread. Now don't troll, and please actually search before posting
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Just to be that guy. He clearly posted a question. That's what q&a is for right? General is for general topics for the glacier. Q&A is for just that, questions and answers. Post appropriately.
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sckboy78 said:
Just to be that guy. He clearly posted a question. That's what q&a is for right? General is for general topics for the glacier. Q&A is for just that, questions and answers. Post appropriately.
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well obviously newcomers don't like to read. which makes me wonder sometimes...
and newcomers i guess, don't think Q&A exists...
General is for general stuff about the Glacier
Q&A is for Questions and Answers (such as this thread)
Development is for posting your ROM/MODS/TUTORIALS
please read the stickies! they were made for a reason! they are meant to help you!
now, if you had read my stickies before posting, your questions (or one of them) would've been answered already.
Please be more careful next time.

I'm just glad it wasn't postedin the dev section. Hell, that's progress!
Ha.
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Thank you, mackmaster. You, and two others have successfully helped a newcomer without an ounce of belittlement. At least some of these members on this site are worth their weight in responses.
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I wouldn't worry about the emc chip that the other people were talking about, i have the "bad" chip and my phone is still going strong. And also, i highly doubt you will need a OC kernel, the phone is pretty fast. If you really need to over/underclock use setCPU. If you brick your phone, your screwed, but its pretty hard to do that after u get the engbootloader.

THEindian said:
I wouldn't worry about the emc chip that the other people were talking about, i have the "bad" chip and my phone is still going strong. And also, i highly doubt you will need a OC kernel, the phone is pretty fast. If you really need to over/underclock use setCPU. If you brick your phone, your screwed, but its pretty hard to do that after u get the engbootloader.
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Nice information. Thanks, guy. I learn everything from you people. This thread started off rough, but it's smoothed over.
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Kelevro said:
Nice information. Thanks, guy. I learn everything from you people. This thread started off rough, but it's smoothed over.
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Here you go Noob. Just a little video to watch, incase you missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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sckboy78 said:
Here you go Noob. Just a little video to watch, incase you missed it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That video is so frickin funny.
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sckboy78 said:
Just to be that guy. He clearly posted a question. That's what q&a is for right? General is for general topics for the glacier. Q&A is for just that, questions and answers. Post appropriately.
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*takes a bow,*
That is all folks. Thread closed.

Kelevro said:
*takes a bow,*
That is all folks. Thread closed.
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But, it's not closed?

Atrix forum going out of control

Take a look at post #20. Is a resumed part of what I meant from the start. Sorry for causing so much troubles.

Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
(Forum Moderator)
p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Swiftks said:
Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
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p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Swiftks how do you get to become a moderator?
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One does not ask, one is chosen. (j/k)
You join the XDA IRC and say "ops plz" (repeatedly so they notice it quickly). (j/k, and also I don't even know if there is an IRC).
In any case I do believe the account has to be a certain age and you have to have a certain number of posts (or at least those should be basic criteria).
It's probably in a FAQ somewhere on the site (or if not, should be).

TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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Excuse me... you're "warning" us? I wasn't aware that you were made a moderator. Oh, wait, you weren't.
If you find problems, use the reporting system. But don't come waltzing in here and issuing threats and edicts when you don't have the authority to back them up. If you're not a moderator, you're a regular member just like the rest of us, which means you don't have the authority to tell us what to do. You aren't in charge here, and I'll thank you to remember that.

Lol this kid.
Someone needs to lock this ****.
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Misread, deleted
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TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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You've obviously weren't around here when the Atrix Forums first opened, or perhaps you've forgotten what it was like around here.
Basically it was a lot of ex-iPhone d-bags that got the Atrix as their first Android phone, and had little respect for XDA. IMHO The Atrix forums has been "pleasant" lately compared to what it used to be when it first opened...
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Not I wasn't and I'm neither a mod

Swiftks said:
Out of control???
I'm on this forum nightly, usually moving questions to the Q&A. I don't have the time to read every thread in every section, that's why we Mods rely on ''you'' to report off topic, rude, etc. posts; and then we will deal with it accordingly.
Thanks for your concern however. I will try to give this forum a bit more attention. In the meantime, use the reporting system that is in place, if you feel a thread or posts deserves special attention, in keeping with the XDA rules (see sig for link).
- Swiftks
(Forum Moderator)
p.s. If you wanna see outta control, go look at the combined SGS 3 forum.
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Yeah our sgs3 forum is a bit much!
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TravisAntonio said:
This is a warning for all the people who are going out of control posting things in thread taking them off-topic.
Keep on the thread and use "off-topic" in the "off-topic" section​
Mods will be aware of this and will clean everything that has to do with it or even take with attention this.
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Dude, posting stuff like that is a good way to loose all friends here - nobody likes a self appointed hall monitor. Let the mods do their job, I don't think the policy is to remove every post that might offend someone, it's the tubes; you need to grow a thick skin.
Don't worry, the angst lake will drain once the ICS situation resolves itself - one way or the other. Although, prepare for some awesome gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands if Moto pulls the same stunt they did with the Dext and cancels the update at the last moment.

Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...

consolation said:
Dude, posting stuff like that is a good way to loose all friends here - nobody likes a self appointed hall monitor. Let the mods do their job, I don't think the policy is to remove every post that might offend someone, it's the tubes; you need to grow a thick skin.
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He needs to read this too: http://www.fenixdev.net (warning, NSFW language)
DannyBiker said:
Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...
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So what devices have a GOOD active community then? I'll sell mine and go get one of those.
Honestly I don't think this community is all that bad. It's like any other community really, in that you have your good users and bad users.
What would really be neat is to take the regional and economical demographics of all the smartphones and compare them. Then you might have something.
Of course people's standards of good and bad are different as well, so you're always going to have someone complaining. Trust me on this, I'm a goth/industrial DJ and getting everyone in this subculture at the club to be happy is like spitting into an oncoming wind!

I don't say it's hell on earth either...it's just that there is a level of animosity that I never encountered before. Why is that, I don't know...

DannyBiker said:
Well I'll have to admit : I knew the Htc Magic, Htc Touch2, Htc HD2, Samsung Galaxy 10.1v and the Xperia Ray community and the Atrix one is by far the worst. A lot of aggressiveness and unthankful people...
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Then I guess you haven't seen the HTC Hero forum. There most of the fighting is between devs, and the majority of bans, blocks etc. is toward the devs, that dont play together nice...
As for this community, I admit that there are some that dont stop complaining, but as already said, in the beginning it was worst.
The best thing here is that most of the complaining is to Motorola and stinking nVidia (Burn bi$#h burn!!! ), whereas practically all the Atrix forum dwellers pay there respect to the devoted devs.
I think that most of the complains will be gone once Moto will release the ICS update. If they will not release it this community will just die slowly...
:cyclops:

IBTL.
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Scary Guy said:
So what devices have a GOOD active community then? I'll sell mine and go get one of those.
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Toshiba Folio, Kindle Fire sub-forum are good and active in my opinion. The Acer Iconia A100 is not active, however people there treat each other especially good. I can say more than 99% of the users there are good and humble, respectful of each other.

Get an HD2, it's more religion than gadgetry.
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xitrumch said:
Toshiba Folio, Kindle Fire sub-forum are good and active in my opinion. The Acer Iconia A100 is not active, however people there treat each other especially good. I can say more than 99% of the users there are good and humble, respectful of each other.
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Same thing with the HTC Aria. Its an old phone now, but the people there NEVER demmanded anything and were so grateful for what ever they got (Rom-wise).
This forum...not so much....
Sent my Atrix that is faster than most phones

Dont' take all I said personal, it was most directly to Mods. I don't know if you want to ban me or do whatever you want with my account Mods but I'm going to tell you the truth...
I feel like you're not doing your Jobs... that's my 2 cents...
If you want I can change the main thread because is causing so many confusion and other things but that's all I had to say in others words.

Devs only, lol

Im no dev, so, for what ive seen, I should not be able to post on devs forums even if im replying to someone's question. So instead of getting bullied out of the forums, im gonna suggest to mods to ban anyone like me who's just a senior member from the dev forum to avoid all those "move your stupid question to the q&a thread recently created mumbo jumbo whatever ever and change your post with moved to wherever".
Most people here are not devs. I dont mean to disrespect any dev or anyone who share their work, but, I think this kind of changes just made things difficult to devs and end users alike having to look to two threads to find an answer or to answer. Mostly because google brings better search results about xda than the xda search option.
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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FCORivers said:
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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lol, you may hear it but definitely not from me
q&a threads are new for me too (been on xda a few years ago, lurking before registering. and a lot has changed since then.
it's just that dev threads are getting a lot of same questions asked again and again, with some people responding in the beginning and later bullying. it's normal. just reading the rom thread and going to q&a thread to post a question is not difficult. meanwhile dev thread should be for posting bugs and solutions and updates. it makes the whole thread a lot more easy to follow

FCORivers said:
Im no dev, so, for what ive seen, I should not be able to post on devs forums even if im replying to someone's question. So instead of getting bullied out of the forums, im gonna suggest to mods to ban anyone like me who's just a senior member from the dev forum to avoid all those "move your stupid question to the q&a thread recently created mumbo jumbo whatever ever and change your post with moved to wherever".
Most people here are not devs. I dont mean to disrespect any dev or anyone who share their work, but, I think this kind of changes just made things difficult to devs and end users alike having to look to two threads to find an answer or to answer. Mostly because google brings better search results about xda than the xda search option.
Maybe I get a post regarding this one about moving it to hell.
A lot of really plain sarcasm mixed with plain truth.
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Which devs forums are you talking about? As far as I know, you can post there as long as it is helpful, no matter what it is or what rank you are.
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
Edit: @Kameirus Exactly.

Marvlesz said:
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
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which is 89 percent of users

Dont get me wrong, I understand but still think that for this rules to work we need an effective way to search xda. Ive been ignored before when asking something which is already answered, but all this "move your post to somewhere else" and "then editing your post on said thread and moving it to another" is annoying and just add more post without being useful to anyone. If the question was answered then ignore like before.
I know my comments wont make any difference. That doesn't mean I wont be reading and posting any more, lol.
On other topic, why would you want to keep away the noobs? Weren't we all noobs at some point? Or everyone was a recognized developer and android/linux experts when first registered on xda? I still dont know jack about anything. I know how to read and write.
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Marvlesz said:
Which devs forums are you talking about? As far as I know, you can post there as long as it is helpful, no matter what it is or what rank you are.
As gilbert said, it's just to keep away the n00bs who can't bother to read.
Edit: @Kameirus Exactly.
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Well, I got another of the post mentioned before because I shared my setup on a specific rom so another user could find the problem on his install. At least I thought I was helping, btw, the post has been there for about 3 weeks before I got the "you are ot cause this is not dev related".
And im talking about this forums, I own an HD2, an O1, and SGS2, all from T-Mobile. The hd2 is the one I love flashing the most.
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@FCORivers
not everyone are noobs.
people who search before posting aren't noobs. people who read before posting aren't noobs
people who ask "hoe brinj hd2 android phnoe in start bot" and similar stuff are noobs. people who don't even bother searching are noobs. people know how to read and write, but those who don't bother doing them correctly are noobs.
people who come to new roms' threads and post bugs posted in op and in first few pages are noobs. and unfortunately those end up on xda via google or youtube.
posting a question is not wrong, but expecting the development thread to be a user manual and consumer support is just wrong. this is one of the reasons q&a threads exist.
and why keep the noobs away? lets just remove the 10 post rule, let noobs fill development threads with "how instal zs ram" and "hoe flash kernil" and "phone bricked" and "my mother punished me for phone not turn on any more". what's easier??
I'm very sure that posting a question in a dev thread and moving it to q&a and leaving a note that it's been moved isn't something hard.
I'm not trying to be lame by any way.
Gilbert

FCORivers said:
Dont get me wrong, I understand but still think that for this rules to work we need an effective way to search xda. Ive been ignored before when asking something which is already answered, but all this "move your post to somewhere else" and "then editing your post on said thread and moving it to another" is annoying and just add more post without being useful to anyone. If the question was answered then ignore like before.
I know my comments wont make any difference. That doesn't mean I wont be reading and posting any more, lol.
On other topic, why would you want to keep away the noobs? Weren't we all noobs at some point? Or everyone was a recognized developer and android/linux experts when first registered on xda? I still dont know jack about anything. I know how to read and write.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439

Marvlesz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439
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exactly. what i said was inspired by this and another post(i forgot where from)

I still think you havent understood me.
I have been ignored when asking stupid qs before, I dont think q&a threads are users guides. If the post is about something already asked, ignore it, if it is stated in op ignore it. Its not about that. Its about polluting a thread asking people to move their posts. Do you think my post is polluting cause is not dev related? What about two post instead which arent dev related? I never access this site via pc or laptop and never ever on my phones web browser which makes moving posts a little bit more complicated than over pc. Why dont get a pm from the same mod to ask you to do that and kindly ask devs to add q&a link in op? Most devs have done that already. So if a noob still fails to follow the rules then a kind pm reminding him/her the rules. But a "deleted post" or "moved post" is still not dev related, there will be a post non the less. Mod posted about new q&a threads, I know.
I dont expect anyone to agree and probably language has something to do with me not being able to make a point here as English is not my native language. Its just that I feel like a little kid getting reprimanded cause most of the time ( im not perfect) I thoroughly searched before posting and still have missed some answers.
As I mentioned before, I had a post like that for sharing my setup. My post was there for about 3 weeks before I got reprimanded. So I see it like the mod wants his new authority to be noticed.
I wont post anymore on dev threads if I dont find my answer on the q&a thread with out detailed info and logcat, got it, but going back 3 weeks on an unattended, almost forgotten rom thread (sorry dev, not meaning anything bad about the rom, I liked it for a while) is what I was complaining for.
Yes im an old crybaby, lol.
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Marvlesz said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439
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Thanks for the read.
But I dont care if that post has 2 million thanks and states what is right, is not really what ive seen in this forums. You dont have to be my friend to be friendly, you dont have to be rude either. Ignoring works miracles, lol.
Havent got a post like that in any other device forum here on xda.
Nah, ignore this one too.
Edit: forget every little thing. Just my bad attitude mixed with a stupid misunderstanding.
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Please, kind Mod, delete this topic/thread.
Thanks.
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FCORivers said:
Please, kind Mod, delete this topic/thread.
Thanks.
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Use the small triangle next to the OP to report the thread instead of bringing it up