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I've had my myTouch for about a month now and have been lurking around the forums for about the same amount of time. With adequate research, I've been able to successfully root, install and run my phone with Maxismo's HERO rom. Successfully meaning have done all that can be with a 4GB class 2 SDHC.
Now to the title. Yesterday morning after a quick McDonalds run, a friend and I decided to post and enjoy our 600 calorie breakfast in the car while I had Pandora running on my Magic through the car audio jack. To no surprise, friend decides that it is a good idea to slide my phone off the armrest, onto the cupholder where a half-filled cup of McD's orange juice parked itself with no cover.. I blame the lady at the drive-thru for not giving us straws. It was in there for a good 5 seconds.
A **** load of used Kleenex's later, I examined the phone and found that the water-damage indicator was still solid white. Aside from the apparent stickier feel, everything seemed fine.. Until I got home. A couple hours later, I reached for my phone to find that it was vibrating. No call, no vmail, not even a text from homegirl to see how my phone was doing. I had tried all the "phone-drying" methods, from Dust-Off to submerging your phone into a bowl of uncooked rice and I still sit here writing this, with my month-old myTouch dancing around my desk like it was happy to see me.
My first question is, has anybody encountered such a problem? If so, has anyone devised a way to remedy this? Second, I have PHP through T-Mobile (phone insurance for those overseas).. Should I just un-root, suck it up and pay the $130 deductible?
I met up with homegirl later on that night and yes, she was happily myTouched.
I shall await replies if any. Thanks for reading.
does the phone still work besides that. cuz if you are going to pay the deductible, i say just report it stolen and pay the fee to get a new one and use the water damaged one as a back up to flash test roms. the only reason you would unroot it and return it is if you are going through warranty, but it would fail, because though the indicator is still white, they open it up and check for water damage there, so you would still have to pay an out of warranty fee, which is like 400 when I had to return my mytouch for warranty purposes.
Just out of curiosity, where is the water indicator?
Also you should leave the phone submerged (cover off and battery off) in rice or packs of silica if you kept those from packaging of electronics for about 2 days. The longer the better. Then see if the phone still works.
Taknarosh said:
Just out of curiosity, where is the water indicator?
Also you should leave the phone submerged (cover off and battery off) in rice or packs of silica if you kept those from packaging of electronics for about 2 days. The longer the better. Then see if the phone still works.
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Water level indicator is on the lower right hand corner of the battery compartment. It's a round white sticker.
Phone was left (battery and cover off) in a bowl of rice as I mentioned in my post. I think it's the dried up sugar stuck on the board that's causing the phone to act up.. Gives a whole new meaning to "sweet phone".
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does the phone still work besides that. cuz if you are going to pay the deductible, i say just report it stolen and pay the fee to get a new one and use the water damaged one as a back up to flash test roms. the only reason you would unroot it and return it is if you are going through warranty, but it would fail, because though the indicator is still white, they open it up and check for water damage there, so you would still have to pay an out of warranty fee, which is like 400 when I had to return my mytouch for warranty purposes.
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Phone is still running fine aside from being stuck on vibrate.. The volume button seems to be the only other that's acting up but it's sporadic. If I do end up keeping the phone I'll open it up and have a look-see. I imagine it isn't gonna be a walk in the park like my N95.
Good point on the warranty, my friend who works for T-Mobile said I could return it at her store though.. Will they crack it open later on and possibly bill me?
Thanks for the input.
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Phone is still running fine aside from being stuck on vibrate.. The volume button seems to be the only other that's acting up but it's sporadic. If I do end up keeping the phone I'll open it up and have a look-see. I imagine it isn't gonna be a walk in the park like my N95.
Good point on the warranty, my friend who works for T-Mobile said I could return it at her store though.. Will they crack it open later on and possibly bill me?
Thanks for the input.
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they send it to their return center and there they open it up. it happened to me on my sidekick. My trackball on it wasn't working so i returned it to warranty. They billed me 3 months later because they said it was an out of warranty product because they found water damage on the inside of the phone and the water damage indicator was still white. I didn't even know that it had water damage when I returned it. It must have gotten water in it when my hands were wet or when I had it in the rain.
Have you tried to turn off the vibrate feature from the settings to see if that turned off the vibrations?
All stickied up is what your volume button is. That is why it is vibrating and why the volume is acting up. The trick would be to get the sticky orange juice out from under your volume rocker. My menu button was sticking so I used a tiny piece of paper to stick in the very tiny gap between button and phone, maybe you will be able to dislodge the sticky stuff. Its a thought.
But insurance wise I think I'd say I lost it at Mcdonalds (snicker).
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I met up with homegirl later on that night and yes, she was happily myTouched.
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ROFLMAO!
I agree. Keep the phone and report it stolen.
Had the same thing happen with cranberry and vodka. pull the battery. Get the assembly manual off of the forum. Dissasemble and clean any and all boards with 90% isoproyl alcohol and a childs soft bristle tooth brush. Do not blow on the boards to dry them as condensation can occur. Just use a fan at room temperature. Make sure you don't get a bunch of alcohol in places it won't come out of (speakers, Microphones, any type of button, USE COMMON SENSE), and only use as much as absolutely necesary. I did mine about 24 hours after it happened and it is still working 3 months later. Sugar will kill it eventualy if left inside so it needs to come out. I have had not one single issue since iI cleaned mine. BE VERY GENTLE. There are a total of FOUR liquid indicators on the unit. One in the battery compartment, and two you cant see, and yet another behind the tab for holding a lanyard. If you need better instructions shoot me an e-mail. [email protected]
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they send it to their return center and there they open it up. it happened to me on my sidekick. My trackball on it wasn't working so i returned it to warranty. They billed me 3 months later because they said it was an out of warranty product because they found water damage on the inside of the phone and the water damage indicator was still white. I didn't even know that it had water damage when I returned it. It must have gotten water in it when my hands were wet or when I had it in the rain.
Have you tried to turn off the vibrate feature from the settings to see if that turned off the vibrations?
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Yeah I did and it still did it. I guess warranty exchange is out of the question then.. Thanks again.
Tech no logy said:
All stickied up is what your volume button is. That is why it is vibrating and why the volume is acting up. The trick would be to get the sticky orange juice out from under your volume rocker. My menu button was sticking so I used a tiny piece of paper to stick in the very tiny gap between button and phone, maybe you will be able to dislodge the sticky stuff. Its a thought.
But insurance wise I think I'd say I lost it at Mcdonalds (snicker).
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Haha. I tried it out with a bunch of post-its and it seems to have alleviated the volume issue slightly. I think I do have to open it up though coz it's still acting up. Thanks for the tips.. Maybe I should blame it on a McDonalds staff member.
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ROFLMAO!
I agree. Keep the phone and report it stolen.
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Haha I think I will.
donepate said:
Had the same thing happen with cranberry and vodka. pull the battery. Get the assembly manual off of the forum. Dissasemble and clean any and all boards with 90% isoproyl alcohol and a childs soft bristle tooth brush. Do not blow on the boards to dry them as condensation can occur. Just use a fan at room temperature. Make sure you don't get a bunch of alcohol in places it won't come out of (speakers, Microphones, any type of button, USE COMMON SENSE), and only use as much as absolutely necesary. I did mine about 24 hours after it happened and it is still working 3 months later. Sugar will kill it eventualy if left inside so it needs to come out. I have had not one single issue since iI cleaned mine. BE VERY GENTLE. There are a total of FOUR liquid indicators on the unit. One in the battery compartment, and two you cant see, and yet another behind the tab for holding a lanyard. If you need better instructions shoot me an e-mail. [email protected]
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Thanks. You might expect an email from me pretty soon.
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Yeah I did and it still did it. I guess warranty exchange is out of the question then.. Thanks again.
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it's a good thing you have insurance then and you told them that you "lost" it or it was "stolen"
Hi guys,
Today I noticed a very weird looking spot on the screen, or better just below it. It seems like there is some fluid just beneath the surface of the screen. I am always very careful with my HTC's, so I really don't believe I caused it... There was no pressure, I didn't drop it, I carry it in my shirt breast pocket or inside pocket of my jacket, without any other items. I really really dont know what happened - I pulled it out of it's leather sleeve, and it was there. This morning it wasn't.
Any idea if this is covered under warranty? Any idea what caused it?
Best Regards,
Lukas
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Any idea if this is covered under warranty?
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I'd be STRAIGHT on to my supplier if mine looked like that! How does it look when the screen is on, cos let's face it, that's when it really matters, and probably how they'll view it when it comes to the warranty.
It's difficult to capture on a picture, but it's VERY visible when screen is on. Colors beneath the spot (wallpaper) seem washed out a little, so you get a very small color difference...
Something to do with cold weather and heating leading to condensation? I have no idea but I would ake a photo and email HTC AND your place of purchase ASAP to see if you could get a replacement, even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on. It would bother me though, I think I havean almost OCD like quality when it comes to devices being perfect...
On a second thought, the leather case that comes with it is extremely tight, I couldn't remove my phone from it for the first few days till it stretched out! Do you think that might be enough pressure to do that to a screen?
I'd definitely get on to whoever you got this from then. That's not good!
call the waranty service ...
Mine had a weird spot as well right in the middle (and it appeared out of nothing like yours). Doesn't quite look like yours though (maybe you just caN't see it in the photo). Only noticeable at certain angles, and it looks like a colorful smudge. With the screen on it's even harder to notice it. When you press on it the "puddle" moves and shifts.
It looks like there is humidity under it. I went to the shop where I bought it, and they said that happens with some other touch screen phones, and is bound to disappear. The guy said it was due to the heat getting trapped bellow the screen.
In my opinion looks more like a humidity condensation thing.
Take it to the shop where you bought it, ask for an opinion. You still have loads of time to use the warranty, and if in 3 or 4 months it is still there or if that bothers you, just activate the warranty.
Thnx for the replies guys!
Something to do with cold weather and heating leading to condensation? I have no idea but I would ake a photo and email HTC AND your place of purchase ASAP to see if you could get a replacement, even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on. It would bother me though, I think I havean almost OCD like quality when it comes to devices being perfect...
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I don't think it's cold/warm/cold issue... Today I got up, put my phone in my inside jacket pocket, went down to my garage, got in the car, drove to work, into an underground garage and took the elevator into the office - phone wasn't exposed to cold today AT ALL. And it doesn't seem to be water, it's not very fluid, and there is no damp.
even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on
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It bothers me massively - even when I'm NOT looking at it. The spot is also very visible when the screen is turned on.
I'd definitely get on to whoever you got this from then. That's not good!
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Did that immediatly after noticing the spot - my supplier asked me to e-mail him the pictures which I did, but he seemed reluctant to promise a replacement... He said that quote mechanical damage is not covered by HTC warranty unquote. This sucks - I didn't do anything wrong!
Grtz
Lukas
CyberClaw said:
Mine had a weird spot as well right in the middle (and it appeared out of nothing like yours). Doesn't quite look like yours though (maybe you just caN't see it in the photo). Only noticeable at certain angles, and it looks like a colorful smudge. With the screen on it's even harder to notice it. When you press on it the "puddle" moves and shifts.
It looks like there is humidity under it. I went to the shop where I bought it, and they said that happens with some other touch screen phones, and is bound to disappear. The guy said it was due to the heat getting trapped bellow the screen.
In my opinion looks more like a humidity condensation thing.
Take it to the shop where you bought it, ask for an opinion. You still have loads of time to use the warranty, and if in 3 or 4 months it is still there or if that bothers you, just activate the warranty.
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Thnx for the reply.
The spot on my phone is really visible, doesn't matter at which angle you look. Screen off is worse than with screen on. There is no color in the spot whatsoever and it doesn't seem to be movable (if I press hard I can make it bigger, but it returns to original size after release)... I'll keep it warm for the night, and I'll see tomorrow... I could measure it, and see if dimensions are changing when temperature rises or drops.
Grtz
Lukas
Have you flown with it recently?
Pagnell said:
Have you flown with it recently?
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Nope... so no pressure changes either. Good thinking though...
WTF???
When I heat it for about ten minutes with a blow dryer it disapears. When I stop heating it, it reappears @ room temperature... WTF is this thing?
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When I heat it for about ten minutes with a blow dryer it disapears. When I stop heating it, it reappears @ room temperature... WTF is this thing?
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WTF indeed!?! When it dissapears does the display show correctly where it used to be?
Yes, you don't see anything wrong. For about two minutes. Then the spot reappears exactly in the center of the screen (where the 'wait' cursor/hourglass appears) and starts to grow until it has it's "original" dimensions.
???
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Thnx for the reply.
The spot on my phone is really visible, doesn't matter at which angle you look. Screen off is worse than with screen on. There is no color in the spot whatsoever and it doesn't seem to be movable (if I press hard I can make it bigger, but it returns to original size after release)... I'll keep it warm for the night, and I'll see tomorrow... I could measure it, and see if dimensions are changing when temperature rises or drops.
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Looking at the placement, it seems it's similar to mine, which is right in the center. Mine returns to the center if I press it as well.
The heat test you just did made me believe it has something to do with heat like the guy where I bought it said...
Here is another thread on the same subject (different phone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293311
I kept reading around, there are reports of the duct tape method.
Basically it works in the presumption the problem is both screens not keeping space between themselves. Just use duct tape over the wet patch, and pull it 20 or 30 times, and the screen should lift and the patch disappear. I'll try it and tell you if it worked.
Thank you! I'll try it as well.
Didn't work...
lol... I had to look for tape, but the tape method was unsuccessful as well on mine.
thnx anyways.
this is a capacitive touch screen so all are glass and the tape method won't work as there isn't anything to lift up unlike the resistive screen where there is a gap between the top plastic and the actual screen
Thought I'd share my story. I recently got a swap out for a "dusty" screen. My new phone seemed OK. A few days passed by and my camera flash started acting up and not working... Today I woke up and NOTHING on the top half of my phone works. Meaning my ear peice, my 3.5mm jack, my camera, or flash, or proximity/light sensors... nothing. But the speakerphone works, my screen is fine. and my microphone works. kinda odd!
It almost like the top PC board got disconnected internally or something.
Just thought this was a strange issue. Already requested yet ANOTHER swap from HTC. Hopefully this next one can make me beleive this phone was worth it.
On another note. I did get my phone "ghost armored" at a cart in the mall pretty much immediately upon receiving it from fedex. And they do spray a small amount of soapy liquid on the outside of the phone to apply the skins. Do you think this could be enough to cause water damage? I'm afraid HTC is going to charge me for "non warranty problems" if the guys at ghost armor caused this! Its a very "fine mist" they use so I think it would be hard to penetrate the phones seals. But who knows? Whats your opinion?
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Thought I'd share my story. I recently got a swap out for a "dusty" screen. My new phone seemed OK. A few days passed by and my camera flash started acting up and not working... Today I woke up and NOTHING on the top half of my phone works. Meaning my ear peice, my 3.5mm jack, my camera, or flash, or proximity/light sensors... nothing. But the speakerphone works, my screen is fine. and my microphone works. kinda odd!
It almost like the top PC board got disconnected internally or something.
Just thought this was a strange issue. Already requested yet ANOTHER swap from HTC. Hopefully this next one can make me beleive this phone was worth it.
On another note. I did get my phone "ghost armored" at a cart in the mall pretty much immediately upon receiving it from fedex. And they do spray a small amount of soapy liquid on the outside of the phone to apply the skins. Do you think this could be enough to cause water damage? I'm afraid HTC is going to charge me for "non warranty problems" if the guys at ghost armor caused this! Its a very "fine mist" they use so I think it would be hard to penetrate the phones seals. But who knows? Whats your opinion?
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water can literally penetrate the smallest most microscopic points. but i dont know think "mist" could do any harm. i think it sucks that you're having bad luck with all these though man.
I like straweberries, they taste good. When eaten slightly chilled they are refreshing as well. And the things you can do with them... fresh fruit topping for cereal, pancakes, yogurt, or you can make them into jam/jelly/compo(sp?)
Anyways, yes, it is possible for your device to have received water damage, this is why I have not and will never put something on my phone that requires the use of water in the application process. And it might even be probable given that on the top of the phone you have a 3.5mm jack, speaker housing, and when you take the back off this gets exposed... and I am guessing they removed the back before misting it, so even more water can get into that area causing major issues.
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I like straweberries, they taste good. When eaten slightly chilled they are refreshing as well. And the things you can do with them... fresh fruit topping for cereal, pancakes, yogurt, or you can make them into jam/jelly/compo(sp?)
Anyways, yes, it is possible for your device to have received water damage, this is why I have not and will never put something on my phone that requires the use of water in the application process. And it might even be probable given that on the top of the phone you have a 3.5mm jack, speaker housing, and when you take the back off this gets exposed... and I am guessing they removed the back before misting it, so even more water can get into that area causing major issues.
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Haha, thanks for your opinion on strawberrys.
I believe they remove the battery, but put the battery cover back on before misting. They also leave the device off while they do this and tell you to leave it off for an additional 2 hours (i left mine off for 6 or 7 hours.)
Even leaving it off, if water gets it, it gets in, and starts causing the circuits and what not to corrode.
I will say, I think it is highly unlikely that you do have water damage causing this problem. If HTC says no go, water damage, those misty dudes are responsible and liable to replace your device/pay for repairs. But, I do highly doubt it.
Still, there is a chance of there being water damage, and even if it isn't causing the problem, HTC won't care.
All in all, I would put money that the swap goes just fine, and hopefull 3rd time is the charm for you. It seems some people, no offense, just have really bad luck with these, while others (not to brag), have bought 5 of them without a single problem.
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Even leaving it off, if water gets it, it gets in, and starts causing the circuits and what not to corrode.
I will say, I think it is highly unlikely that you do have water damage causing this problem. If HTC says no go, water damage, those misty dudes are responsible and liable to replace your device/pay for repairs. But, I do highly doubt it.
Still, there is a chance of there being water damage, and even if it isn't causing the problem, HTC won't care.
All in all, I would put money that the swap goes just fine, and hopefull 3rd time is the charm for you. It seems some people, no offense, just have really bad luck with these, while others (not to brag), have bought 5 of them without a single problem.
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5 of them?! jeez!
I agree, I'm having really bad luck. I LOVE this phone. Its just getting annoying having to swap it out every other week.
I'm also angry that this broken one has the best screen I've seen on any nexus, no dust, no pink tint. its perfect! and i have to return it
Oh well. thanks for the advice. I feel a little better about the swap now, I cant really afford to lose another 530$.
One for me, and 4 others for friends that had me help them buy one...
Someone is selling one for $300. It comes with everything including a case, extra battery, and charger. The only problem? There is a scuff on the top left corner, both on the chrome and on the black part of the LCD.
What do you guys say? Yay or nay?
My main device right now is a BB9700, solely for the UMA. I also have a HD2 and a new Vibrant I'm trying to get rid of (unless the later gets 2.2 ASAP).
I would say
1) make sure the power/lock button works reliably and feels solid
2) while charging, turn on gps navigation, and then start watching some flash videos in the browser in warm weather and make sure the thing doesn't reboot on its own from overheating.
3) when you boot it, does it show an icon of a padlock opened? if so this means the bootloader is unlocked, though not necessarily a bad thing, could spell trouble getting it serviced under warranty.
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I would say
1) make sure the power/lock button works reliably and feels solid
2) while charging, turn on gps navigation, and then start watching some flash videos in the browser in warm weather and make sure the thing doesn't reboot on its own from overheating.
3) when you boot it, does it show an icon of a padlock opened? if so this means the bootloader is unlocked, though not necessarily a bad thing, could spell trouble getting it serviced under warranty.
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The phone is supposedly in great condition and I doubt it's under warranty anymore. Is #2 a serious hardware deffect?
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The phone is supposedly in great condition and I doubt it's under warranty anymore. Is #2 a serious hardware deffect?
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All electrical items should have at least one year warranty so there should be a few months left
Its a good price for a great phone, especially if youre a developer.
The metal scuff wont be visible if you use a case.
Go with what #2 said. The second point is an extreme stress test. I'm pretty sure my phone in its case would reboot if the room temperature is above 100F.
i would buy it. good price and the scuff shouldnt be a big deal unless u have ocd with scratches like me hehe.
but a case should come to your aid
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i would buy it. good price and the scuff shouldnt be a big deal unless u have ocd with scratches like me hehe.
but a case should come to your aid
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I do have OCD If I didn't I wouldn't be pondering right now.
Go for an awesome device very good price for a great phone
great price and u can always send it in for a replacement with htc, say that the ear speaker is messing up or your power button is not working all the time
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great price and u can always send it in for a replacement with htc, say that the ear speaker is messing up or your power button is not working all the time
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Warranties don't transfer, do they?
get it. i paid 300 for a used nexus one with a few body scratches and the name "gabriel tran" engraved on the back. a $3 case from ebay and one cyanogenmod6 flash later, i'm a happy camper. don't regret a penny spent on this bad boy.
EDIT: one thing to check for also is screen burn. didn't think about it when i bought it, everything looked peachy. but later i noticed a pretty bad screen burn where the status bar always is at the top of the screen. doesn't bother me since it doesn't really affect anything, but keep your eyes peeled since it's pretty ubiquitous on amoled displays.
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Warranties don't transfer, do they?
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Yes they do my brothers bought one off Craigslist and his replace it
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Yes they do my brothers bought one off Craigslist and his replace it
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I think I might take it just for this alone since it gives me a peace of mind.
Where can the original owner find the receipt/proof of purchase?
probably in their gmail inbox, assuming they didn't delete it.
Hello. I hate to even make the post, but I do so love XDA-developers, and maybe somebody can help me out.
I managed to dunk the phone, lets not discuss how, in some pond water. I scoured the int3rwebz for solutions and seemed best advice was to dry with desiccant and a suggestion of an alcohol wash or use of electrical contact cleaner.
The phone was on when dropped, off when recovered. Water damage indicator on the phone was tripped, but the battery still shows red x's. Waited the requisite amount of days and the phone works! everything works.
Now the problem- I get a bit worried about the left over pond scum and I decide I'd be the mad scientist to use electrical contact cleaner on it. Sprayed the suspect areas and immediately blew out the phone with compressed air, let it sit a few nights in desiccant. Now I have some small bubbles in the screen( which was NOT sprayed...) . FML. figure they may be trapped cleaner and eventually evaporate. Not a huge deal, just a bit annoying.
THEN I realize my vibration now does not work. I attribute this to either the water or contact cleaner.
I am now one of a million posting "PHONE GOT WET HALP!!!" and I apologize for such a newbie post, but is there any hope for the vibration to begin working again magically?
Haptic feedback is a fairly big part of this phones operation, and I use silent mode at work with vibration.
If I am screwed on the vibration I have another newbie question:
Can you set different ring tones or sms tones to certain contacts? I have had phones that do this in the past but I cant seem to find anything on this one. I am using the newest version of fission at the moment- 2.6.1.
THANKS for any help/ useful information!
-Andrew
If you look in the battery compartment, I think in the lower left, you can actually see the vibration motor. I would check and make sure that nothing is blocking it. However, I would venture to say that being that it is the only (powered) moving part and being it being so exposed, I would imagine that it would be the most likely to get short circuited or otherwise damaged by the water.
Concur
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If you look in the battery compartment, I think in the lower left, you can actually see the vibration motor. I would check and make sure that nothing is blocking it. However, I would venture to say that being that it is the only (powered) moving part and being it being so exposed, I would imagine that it would be the most likely to get short circuited or otherwise damaged by the water.
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I would concur that it was probably short circuited. Do you have insurance?
I agree. I absolutely did not purchase insurance. Live and learn. That's why I don't mind using it as is.
On to the second question- any way to select varying tones for different contacts in phone ringer/ sms tones? Would I just find something on the market for this? again using fission ROM.
Can you change the green missed call/ sms received LED?
I should have left the phone as it was after drying and not gotten paranoid about the "left over pond scum mineral residue" Oh well.. again live and learn.
Thanks again for the replies.
-Andrew
Open the contact that you wanna change, hit menu and select "options" and it's obvious from there. As for the LED, try an app called Missed Call.
Sorry I missed those to begin with.
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Hello. I hate to even make the post, but I do so love XDA-developers, and maybe somebody can help me out.
I managed to dunk the phone, lets not discuss how, in some pond water. I scoured the int3rwebz for solutions and seemed best advice was to dry with desiccant and a suggestion of an alcohol wash or use of electrical contact cleaner.
The phone was on when dropped, off when recovered. Water damage indicator on the phone was tripped, but the battery still shows red x's. Waited the requisite amount of days and the phone works! everything works.
Now the problem- I get a bit worried about the left over pond scum and I decide I'd be the mad scientist to use electrical contact cleaner on it. Sprayed the suspect areas and immediately blew out the phone with compressed air, let it sit a few nights in desiccant. Now I have some small bubbles in the screen( which was NOT sprayed...) . FML. figure they may be trapped cleaner and eventually evaporate. Not a huge deal, just a bit annoying.
THEN I realize my vibration now does not work. I attribute this to either the water or contact cleaner.
I am now one of a million posting "PHONE GOT WET HALP!!!" and I apologize for such a newbie post, but is there any hope for the vibration to begin working again magically?
Haptic feedback is a fairly big part of this phones operation, and I use silent mode at work with vibration.
If I am screwed on the vibration I have another newbie question:
Can you set different ring tones or sms tones to certain contacts? I have had phones that do this in the past but I cant seem to find anything on this one. I am using the newest version of fission at the moment- 2.6.1.
THANKS for any help/ useful information!
-Andrew
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First off, this isn't really a newb post. Not once have I seen "is there any to trick Verizon into sending me a new phone blah blah blah"
Second, I think you got really lucky here especially for the phone having been on, and ESPECIALLY that the battery didn't get wet or damaged. For what happened, the vibration being gone is pretty minor damage.
orkillakilla said:
Second, I think you got really lucky here especially for the phone having been on, and ESPECIALLY that the battery didn't get wet or damaged. For what happened, the vibration being gone is pretty minor damage.
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I agree. I guess mad at myself because it was ok before the contact cleaner (d'oh). Oh well, maybe it will reduce some corrosion.
And thank you -Gilgamesh- Don't know how I missed that. I'll try that app as well.
I have a hard time contact cleaner as being the culprit. If it damaged electronics, then it would kind of defy the whole point? Not trying to argue, just seems like it would be the least likely thing to do it. Was it powdery or foamy or something? Maybe it clogged up mechanism, maybe try poking at it with a quetip or something to dislodge it? Or maybe the air pressure pushed some moisture further inside where it could do some damage? Either way, guess I'll make sure to stay away from using it myself anyway. >.<
WELL.. the electrical cleaner in question does say to re-lubricate any movable parts as the cleaner will most likely dissolve oil/lubrication. My guess is that this vibration motor was lubricated if only in a small way.
I agree, unless the phone was submerged in something KNOWN caustic or corrosive, then I would just dry it, and be done with it. (I do also have the new screen bubbles/ dead pixels after the cleaner too.) I read the stories of people submerging in high grade alcohol after the water based dunk so I thought what the heck and the mentioned area in the lower left- looked like a board to me- was sprayed (of course with battery out). I tested the stuff on paper and it was dry within seconds just from air. I sprayed the phone out with compressed air afterward and another few nights in industrial strength desiccant.
So now I'm wondering if I spray some lube (WD-40 just a drop?) into this area in the lower left (Vibration motor?) of course with battery out and adequate dry time?
Thanks for staying with me. I installed a few LED applications and now at least know how to set different ring tones for different contacts.
Of course I'm ecstatic that the display even works after the submersion. I was already pricing 6-700 phones and even thought of...dare I say it... downgrading.
-Andrew
I really wouldn't. WD-40 is high pressure, thus when the tiniest little squirt would prob end up coating most of the inside of the phone. With the battery out I doubt it would cause any shorts, but it may still cause via corrosion because of the chemicals. IF I were to use any type of lube on it, I'd use something made for moving parts, such as the little thing of oil/lubricant you get with a hair trimmers. That way you can easily just put a small drop. That being said, I have no idea what effect using such a product might cause. May fix it, or could permanently damage the phone. Never really tried anything like that.
Personally I would just cut my loses now. There isn't very much damage, and you don't know how much more damaged could be caused by doing something like this. Just my opinion.
Yeah probably best to leave well enough alone at this point. Working screen for the most part, everything else working, just a dead vibration mechanism.
Lesson to be learned for anyone searching- if you have no real reason to beleive the device will be corroded by the substance the device was submerged in... JUST DRY IT WITH DESICCANT! Like I said mine was on and streaming music when dropped, completely off when recovered. I thought it was shorted out for sure, or at least would have tripped some kind of fuse only to be known by verizon/ motorolla techs to be cheaply replaced for refurbished units.
Anyway... just glad to still have a working device. Now to live this down as the GF got a $0.01 droid 2 at the same time as i did, but hers works perfectly fine (I smell a sabotage in the near future.....)
-Andrew
HAHA good luck with that.
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Hello. I hate to even make the post, but I do so love XDA-developers, and maybe somebody can help me out.I
-Andrew
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cant help you on the vibration part but for the contacts, try going to the contact hitting menu button-->options-->ringtone
edit: i was beat to it, my internet was slow to load and saw no other posts but he OP lol.
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If you look in the battery compartment, I think in the lower left, you can actually see the vibration motor. I would check and make sure that nothing is blocking it. However, I would venture to say that being that it is the only (powered) moving part and being it being so exposed, I would imagine that it would be the most likely to get short circuited or otherwise damaged by the water.
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HA! Decided that id add a drop of wd-40 to the vibration motor. After re-reading gilgamesh's post here I remembered seeing a turbine like piece of metal spinning with the compressed air. I was thinking the very lower left where the main board is exposed, but this is pretty much to the left of the middle of the battery. You can see a white motor with gears on the output shaft and the "spinning metal fan blade...thingy"
so, I pull my battery and.... blue silica desiccant ball! Dunno how I missed it. Removed it with a pencil, battery back in, fire it up, success!
So now I just have what im guessing is some left over cleaner under the plastic screen, but it could actually be lcd damage. Ill just have to see if it ever evaporates.
Still in the running for luckiest unlucky droid 2 user 2011!
thanks again guys,
-andrew
Oops- double posted. Anyway moral of the story is use desiccant, but block all passages (I used cotton on the audio jack and port at lower left that goes to mainboard, but forgot the vibration motor.) And don't get any cleaner anywhere near the screen as it seems to have messed up my lcd a bit.
Also- if your vibrate stops working make sure that metal fan spins freely when you blow on it/ use compressed air.
-andrew
Congratulations!! Glad to hear it's fixed now!!
Yeah I think that award is going to you lol. Glad to hear you fix it.
Damn you're one lucky mofo...for being unlucky that is...
Sent from my Evo "Z" unit on xda app.
Actually, I would say the opposite. One of the luckiest. Dropped it in a pond and came out working perfectly, in the end.