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Donut/1.6 on HTC Hero

Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers

nadeemhasnaat said:
Hey Guys,
I was wondering that since Google is already sharing the Donut Love with G1's and Magic's when are we gonna see some Donut love for our lovely piece of Hardware we all know as HERO ...
I am guessing Htc is working on the 1.6 SDK provided by Google to integrate it with ROSIE, but i am thinking the Developers here are alot faster than the guys and HTC.
So can we get a Rosie with 1.6 which is rooted ofcourse but nothing else... no other modifications i mean.
Respect to all.
Cheeers
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Good question, I would love to see that as well... BUT I suppose it is not possible without the kernel sourse, unless Sprint's Hero comes out with 1.6 and then its ROM is ported to our European Heros. That's up to the devs!

Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.

chaoscentral said:
Well the Sprint Hero HAS to come with Donut... It's CDMA, and that's only supported in Donut, so I'm almost 100% positive it will ship with Donut.
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That was what I thought. But Joshua @ Engadget told me that their Sprint Hero review unit only has Android 1.5 on it. Well, Android 1.6 added support for CDMA does not necessarily mean that one cannot write a driver for Android 1.5 to support CDMA.
But anyway, I do think that it is almost likely that HTC will release a 1.6 update for the Hero in a not too distance future.

The Google experience G1s and Magics are purely that - stock Cupcake ROMs. The Hero presents a slight challenge as HTC put a lot of love into the ROM, with the addition of SenseUI. Hopefully, it won't take that long to cook a Donut ROM with SenseUI, but just making the transition of the great innovations from HTC for the Hero will be the stumbling block for a Donut-based ROM.

HTC Response to my Donut question.
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.

J-Zeus said:
I asked when they'd release a ROM using Dognut ( 1.6 ) for the Hero.
Their reply:
Good Morning, HTC do not release the ROM updates. Google do. If you have any questions relating thier operating system, the updates, its benefits and release dates please visit www.android.com for further support. Here at HTC, we manufacture the hardware on the device and release hotfixes for when reported bugs needs resolution. If you have a technical support related query regarding the device, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Kind Regards, HTC Europe
This has constantly been my experience with HTC - ask them a question and they say contact Google.
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Man thats so frustrating innit. I am sure if we ask google, they wont comment either coz our hero is not with "GOOGLE EXPERIENCE" ..... what a load of cr*p
well i actually snooped around and heard a couple of ppl say that it should not be a difficult task for HTC to induce Rosie into 1.6, infact one of them even said " should be a peice of cake" so i am a hopless optimist and hopefully it'll be sent as an OTA upgrade or " HOTFIX " by HTC soon...
I'll call HTC too and see if i can get any more info out

update
Just got off the phone with a customer support officer from HTC UK. And she said that while they dont have the exact date on when HTC will issue and update bundled with Donut, It is under works and will be sooner rather than later..... now the waiting games begin

correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement

dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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well the only notable improvement might be of the speed and performance, although google didn't shout about it so i m thinking it'll be minimalistic ... however detailed battery usage, universal search and test to speech are a few things i wouldn't mind having....
But actually for me its just about getting the latest updates on the Android flagship device...

dipje said:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 1.6 doesn't bring that much for us Hero owners right? When the first announcements came I looked through the "Whats new" list and I didn't start shouting from excitement
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One benefit will be being able to run any future apps that require 1.6 (use 1.6-specific API features). We already have apps that run only on 1.5 or higher...

system-wide search feature would be nice...

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this, but I signed up to point it out:
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/tattoo/specification.html
http://developer.htc.com/htc_tattoo_developer.html
The Tattoo will be shipping with Android 1.6, and it uses the Sense UI. That should mean that it isn't too far off for the Hero.

Looks promising! and the Tatoo is Due to launch orange UK this month

VPN and Global search are the two main features I am most excited about in the Donut

It's supposed to be faster also.

Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?

mjames_84 said:
Does 1.6 not also include the improved App Store for Android?
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yes it does

http://drop.io/g1i9pj0 hero is getting donut....you might also be getting a snapdragon hero.

I installed donut on my girlfriends g1 yesterday and it seemed much faster than cupcake.

Official Android 2.x Sense UI for HTC Magic 32A

Anyone knows if 32a is getting 2.x? When will it be released......
updates:
With reference to This Thread
The HTC Magic will be upgradable to 2.1 by mid-year.
http://twitter.com/RogersHelps/status/10927130422
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Yes, by May 2010 we should all have it on our Magic (if HTC keeps up to its promises).

rawr. may seems so far now...

Per this link, it will be June or July by the time it makes it to the public. Maybe it'll leak before that time...
http://androidforums.com/rogers/52738-we-met-rogers-good.html

Got this off HTC Singapore Facebook Wall.
Dear XXX, the Hero Upgrade would be in May 2010. For Magic and Tattoo users, there would not be any upgrade. Please call our service hotline at 1800 238 7788 if you have queries. Cheers
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Hi XXX, as confirmed by our product manager, there will not be any andriod 2.1 update for Magic and Tattoo. So sorry if any of the teams had give you a wrong idea. My sincere apologies.
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What kind of service is this?
And do they know the difference between hero and magic is the camera..

He may have meant the magic 32b, which is not getting an update.

From what I know, Singapore's Magic is 32A... Oh well, hope he's referring to 32Bs...

Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense

This is what has been said: (coming straight from HTC, not from any official channels though, this has been posted on phandroid forums from a HTC rep. This agreement was started between HTC and Rogers)
By mid-year, HTC will issue an upgrade to Android 2.1, including the highly acclaimed HTC Sense experience for the HTC Magic.
However, due to certain limitations on the HTC Dream, the software path for the HTC Dream will be terminated after the next Android 1.5 update. While we regret not being able to offer the same updates to both devices, by bringing this upgrade to the HTC Magic, we are delivering the best solution possible given the situation at hand.
We also want to emphasize that the situation with HTC Dream and HTC Magic devices is true across markets, and is not limited to Canada. While “Google Experience” devices built on the same platform (like the T-Mobile G1) do have different upgrade paths – this is due to the use of a stock Android build, rather than a custom build used on the HTC Dream and HTC Magic.
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I wouldn't trust too much on facebook pages or HTC support channels.

dione1200 said:
Can anybody tell what version of sense is this?
http://www.noverca.it/shop-aggiorna-htc-magic-con-sense
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There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.

fregor said:
There's only one version of Sense for HTC Magic. Sense is just the framework, not the telephone firmware. As of now, officially, there's is only Android 1.5 with HTC Sense. The Android 2.1 release will include an updated version of the Sense user interface.
The picture looks like the theme is modified for the network supplier.
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Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1

dione1200 said:
Yes, that's what I meant. I wonder if it's 1.5 or 2.1
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Then it's probably 1.5 since 2.1 isn't released yet.

android 2.x for htc tattoo, come or not???

HTC Tattoo To Be Upgraded to Android 2.1
12th March , 2010
HTC have confirmed that the HTC Tattoo will be upgraded to Android 2.1, which is the newest version of the Android operating system.
The current version running on the HTC Tattoo is version 1.6, which to be honest is really quite dated now so the update will be greatly appreciated.
The update to Android 2.1 will bring many benefits to the HTC Tattoo with the first being improved speed, reliability and efficiency across the whole platform. Additionally, you can have five home-screens on Android 2.1 , meaning you can have one for work, play, social networking and so on.
Android 2.1 also adds “Quick contact” functionality, which enables you to easily switch between address and social network contacts.
The HTC Tattoo has a 2.8 inch touch-screen, a 3.2 mega-pixel camera, FM radio and full 3G support. When we reviewed the HTC Tattoo here at 3G we concluded that “If you're hankering after an Android phone, this comes up with the goods for a (relatively) low price.”
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html

"Newest version"? LOL Haven't they heard of FroYo?

Would like to know from where this reporter dude got this information...

Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read into that though...
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This is one of the 'brilliant' bits of journalism that sparked the Frandroid article.
Its all listed and discussed in the other much longer thread here on XDA.
In essence, it was a HTC customer support answer that was posted and discussed here and then ended up on Frandroid. All complete nonsense, as is that article above -- that piece above about Android 2.1 on the Tattoo shows a complete lack of knowledge about the Tattoo, they talk about 2.1 bringing five screens for f sake.
I would post all the links, but can't be bothered. The OP should have read the other three or four threads with the heading Android 2.1 that are right below this one.

laughingcavalier said:
Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read into that though...
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The HTC Support person may be getting confused with the Hero update, they do that a lot ;-) as the announcements for the Hero did say it would be a minor ROM update at the begining of June followed by 2.1 later in June.
OR, us Tattoo owners could be in luck!
Somehow I don't think so though :-/

HTML:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html

nelenzi said:
HTML:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March2010/HTC-Tattoo-To-Be-Upgraded-to-Android-2-l-3G.html
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Where is the sense in quoting the link??

Someone on android forums has said they got a reply from HTC saying that the latest update was to prepare for a2.1 update. Don't know how much to read
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The HTC Support person may be getting confused with the Hero update, they do that a lot ;-)
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Updated, this was the case...
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I don't who said him that but I hope that will true, even if we've got the 2.1 for when it will be release that is the question

HTC UK posted a ROM-upgrade. I hope the other country's get one as well:
Look at HTC.com and set your country: UK.
(I'm not allowed to post links in this post, because this is my first one)

look here read here
h--p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=692749
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i can't wait this 2.1!!!!

Things I shouldnt expect from HD2 Android ?

Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD

suhas_sm said:
Hi guys,
I might buy a HD2 and I want to do everything that a current DHD or DesireZ can do. So keeping this in mind what are things that I shouldnt expect from HD2 ?
Does it delivers every thing that a nexus one /desire/DZ/DHD deliver ?
I wanted to buy DHD... But its not available in US. Its quite expensive also. And no other options for 4.3 Inch screen
Thanks, Help me decide whether or not to buy this phone as an altenative for desire Z/Desire HD
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I don't quite understand what you're asking. You're asking for help with a decision, but from what I'm reading, there is only one option?
To answer your more obvious question, I believe development for DHD/DHZ has stagnated, and the only thing it's missing is the camera. Not sure when/if devs will finish that. The Evo, desire, and nexus builds are pretty much 100% done though
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If you're in the US, why don't you buy an Evo? I'm sure the new Sense will be ported to it (if it hasn't been already).

If you want the ability to switch between Windows Mobile and different Android builds, get the HD2.
If you want a native Android phone with similar (not the same though, before the pedants flame me) hardware to the HD2 get the Desire.
If you want a more up dated similar Android phone get the Desire HD.
If you want a hardware keyboard get the Z.
Thats pretty much it sport

Thanks
Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD

As a TMOUS user I would just get the Desire HD if it was my first phone and I had the upgrade option. But I didnt, so I wanted the next best thing, a phone I could convert into a Desire HD, which was the HD2. I found one new in the box on craigs list for $250 and shelled out. Studied up on modding it and made it look like the Desire HD.

I'm also a TMOUS user and found one of craigslist for under 200. Until they come out with a new 4.3 android phone, this will be it for me. I don't get the data drops and the only issue I come across is the 10 second lag in autorotate with the touchscreen. I'll take that. If the Desire HD (or comparable) ever comes to the US that's what I will move to

Looks like camera fix is available on Desire HD builds now....

what you shouldn't expect a droid hd2...prefection.some builds are still WIP or some bugs not resolved.
then we have the nand camp who wants droid on their fone,wiping out winmo completely.this is still WIP.and still some impt issues not resolved.
other than that,hd2 is pretty impressive even with stock winmo.not that much of a diff between dhd other than a updated hardware.
if you like cutomising the hell out of ur fone but lack the money,go for hd2.you get spoilt to booting winmo cooked rom or droid builds available in the forums.

suhas_sm said:
Thanks
Coming to a conclusion that this phone is not a pure native android phone
Its better I w8 for Nexus S or go with DHD
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I dont know how you don't know that? It's a windows mobile 6.5 phone. How can a windows phone be a pure native android phone? If you are looking for a phone that can do exactly what a DHD or a Desire Z, you would have to get one of those phones as no other phone currently runs the new htc sense. The closest phone to a DHD or a Desire Z in US is an EVO 4G.

Kitkat 4.4 for Desire HD??

It looks like the HTC desire HD situation has been changed a little bit. They dont say that DHD wont receive any updates anymore:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to Tara.
Tara: Hi Johan, thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Johan 9711: will the HTC Desire HD receive a update to android 4.4 kitkat?
This android version is made for old phones and low-end phones.
Tara: One moment please.
Tara: The HTC deisre HD is upgradeable to version 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Johan 9711: i know, but will it ever be updated to 4.4?
Tara: Unfortunately I can't provide you with future information as I don't know anything of this yet.
And the dutch chat the same answer.
Kitkat 4.4 is designed for older phones like DHD and Low-end devices.

johan9711 said:
It looks like the HTC desire HD situation has been changed a little bit. They dont say that DHD wont receive any updates anymore:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to Tara.
Tara: Hi Johan, thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Johan 9711: will the HTC Desire HD receive a update to android 4.4 kitkat?
This android version is made for old phones and low-end phones.
Tara: One moment please.
Tara: The HTC deisre HD is upgradeable to version 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Johan 9711: i know, but will it ever be updated to 4.4?
Tara: Unfortunately I can't provide you with future information as I don't know anything of this yet.
And the dutch chat the same answer.
Kitkat 4.4 is designed for older phones like DHD and Low-end devices.
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Please don't start again this polemics. Is useless and I had enough. As an explanation to you HTC will never build again sense rom for the older devices and HTC is not Google to update Nexus devices with pure android.

Not to mention that even Google isn't updating the Galaxy Nexus, a phone newer than the HTC Desire HD. HTC is not going to update the DHD to 4.4.

It would be nice if they did though.
From the past

If your phone has not been updated in the past, it will not be updated now.
Yes, the 512MB comment is good but old devices are missing so much such as ARM instructions, drivers, companies that have went out of the mobile game (ti).....etc so many things.

It's safe to say, we're not getting 4.4 officially. Unofficially though is a different matter
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Randomblame said that he is already working on it.

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Randomblame said that he is already working on it.
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That and other developers is your only chance to see 4.4 on this device.
Sent from my HTC

Thread closed
This is a pointless duscussion and as you can easily see will only lead to trouble. Nothing you can say here will cahnge anything in HTC's decision. So leave it to the devs whether some see fit to do it...