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OK so I just payed my bill at my local T-mobile store, and I saw a poster saying 16 tmobile devices will have 4g capability or something in those words... So I asked the tmobile employee what the poster is all about. He said there are 16 devices that tmobile will be updating so they can have faster 3g or 4g speed.... He said for vibrant the 3g should get faster but its not going to be 4g sicnce it doesnt have the capability to be 4g...... plus Vibrant was one of those phones on the poster as well as other smart phones.
No Im not trying to spam or create new rumors. Im actually a newb in these threads and was curious if anyone heard of this.... Or if it has anything to do with second update that some people are receiving?
As the employee said expect ota update that would increase the speed
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
lolcopter said:
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
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well im pretty confused by all this myself but.. Since they have the tmobile official posters in their tmobile stores it means it has to be pretty soon.. w.e it is...
I just went and tested my speed with speedtest.net app and it shows 2284kbps download and 1337 upload.... is it suppose to be even faster soon?
I may be wrong but I believe you guys are misunderstanding the posters.
I think this is what T-Mobile is trying to say.
All current 3G phones will get a speed boost once your area has been fully upgraded to HSPA+ Although most phones that T-Mobile currently carries are not HSPA+ except for the G2 and MyTouch 4G, these non-HSPA+ phones will still benefit from HSPA+ network upgrades.
Make sense?
Also T-Mobiles 4G network is NOT 4G, False advertising. Same with Sprint Wimax.
SamsungVibrant said:
Also T-Mobiles 4G network is NOT 4G, False advertising. Same with Sprint Wimax.
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According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
Either way...no one is promising 4g speed to vibrant... Just faster 3g... Did anyone great of this? Coz I dont want to start a thread where people are arguimg what 4g is and what its not... And I live in NYC... So I believe 4g towers are set up here already.. Tmobile rep confused the crap out of me... As they usually do... Can't even understand their own advertisement
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thats interesting because at my work for the last year I could only get about 900kbps down and 300 up. For some reason for the last 3 weeks I could not keep a solid connection even though the 3g symbol was present. I thought it was my vibrant or the rom I had flashed the night before (rom junkie) but two of my employees have Tmobile as well and they were experiencing the same thing. All of a sudden as of Saturday I am now getting speeds in the 4mb range and its freaking awesome. I have another employee with a 4g Evo and I kill him everytime. Go Tmobile! Vibrant w/4g speeds and now froyo and wifi calling= the best Android phone on the market.
Your statements contradict eachother!
Thegreatheed said:
According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
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I never said any of the US carriers currently have 4G. In fact, I said exactly what you stated. I said neither Sprint's Wimax, nor T-Mobiles HSPA+ is 4G.
Also your statements contradict each other. You claim according to the ITU, no us carrier has 4G, yet T-Mobile advertising as the "largest 4G network" in the nation is honest advertising? HUH? LOL, do you not see the contradiction in your own statements?
How can you be the largest 4G network, if according to you, the ITU says no US carriers have 4G at the current moment. As a result, any carrier claiming they have 4G would be falsely advertising such said information.
I'm sorry but it shocks me when people overlook the obvious, how can you write a statement and contradict yourself?
btw hspa+ SPEEDS are not true 4G speeds.
short answer, they upgrade network we benefit.
Thegreatheed said:
According to ITU, none of the American carriers have 4G. Go search engadget for ITU for the source (would post the link, but I don't have enough posts yet).
HSPA+ is capable of the same download speeds as the "true 4G" networks, of which there are NONE in the US. It's not false advertising, it's perfectly honest advertising.
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It is absolutely FALSE advertising. 4G networks are IMT ADVANCED based, which includes LTE Advanced and WiMax Advanced. This means that ABSOLUTELY zero networks in the world are, and in the next year or two, ever will be 4G. To be a 4G solution, it has to be a 100% IP (aka packet switched with absolutely NO circuit switched voice) based solution. Also, do I need to mention that the "true" 4G speeds you are talking about, are slow in comparison to what IMT Advanced based architectures will be.
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Either way...no one is promising 4g speed to vibrant... Just faster 3g... Did anyone great of this? Coz I dont want to start a thread where people are arguimg what 4g is and what its not... And I live in NYC... So I believe 4g towers are set up here already.. Tmobile rep confused the crap out of me... As they usually do... Can't even understand their own advertisement
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As mentioned they are not 4G. Plain and simple. T-Mobile has made it VERY clear that they are not currently seeking any LTE plans for the very near future, and as such, are rolling out HSPA+ in an effort to increase the speeds at a (relatively) low cost. Due to the fact that Sprint is using the 4G moniker, and advertising speeds similar to what T-Mobile will have on offer (using HSPA+), they are doing the same bull**** marketing that Sprint is.
If you want me to cite some info, I can.
lolcopter said:
they're updating the network, not the actual devices. the vibrant is technically capable of 7.2Mbps downloads, but you can only find those speeds in a few places right now
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So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
AlexSochi8 said:
So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
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There are reports of getting as high as 15Mbps in areas with a good HSPA+ coverage on the G2. I presume that 7Mbps, or near there should be very achievable on our phones.
gehzumteufel said:
There are reports of getting as high as 15Mbps in areas with a good HSPA+ coverage on the G2. I presume that 7Mbps, or near there should be very achievable on our phones.
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thats pretty amazing then... then I wouldnt complain about some phones having "4G" speed
gehzumteufel said:
It is absolutely FALSE advertising. 4G networks are IMT ADVANCED based, which includes LTE Advanced and WiMax Advanced. This means that ABSOLUTELY zero networks in the world are, and in the next year or two, ever will be 4G. To be a 4G solution, it has to be a 100% IP (aka packet switched with absolutely NO circuit switched voice) based solution. Also, do I need to mention that the "true" 4G speeds you are talking about, are slow in comparison to what IMT Advanced based architectures will be.
As mentioned they are not 4G. Plain and simple. T-Mobile has made it VERY clear that they are not currently seeking any LTE plans for the very near future, and as such, are rolling out HSPA+ in an effort to increase the speeds at a (relatively) low cost. Due to the fact that Sprint is using the 4G moniker, and advertising speeds similar to what T-Mobile will have on offer (using HSPA+), they are doing the same bull**** marketing that Sprint is.
If you want me to cite some info, I can.
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I agree with you in one respect, ITU ruled that HSPA+ is not a 4G network. However, what with Sprint and their false advertising, it's easy to see why T-Mobile would label their data network as 4G for one reason. The same towers that are being upgraded to the theoretical max of 21mbps have the capacity for even higher speeds. Up to 168mbps actually, if you want to get specific. All on the towers they already have. Pretty much explains their decision to forgo LTE for the time being huh? So while yes, their network isn't a "true" 4G network, no one can argue that they're lying about achieving 4G and higher speeds (even higher than WiMax).
well i hope the reception will be better. i'm fine with a download speed of 2-3 mbps as long as it's stable. I have to stay on one corner of our house to have a 3G.
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I agree with you in one respect, ITU ruled that HSPA+ is not a 4G network. However, what with Sprint and their false advertising, it's easy to see why T-Mobile would label their data network as 4G for one reason. The same towers that are being upgraded to the theoretical max of 21mbps have the capacity for even higher speeds. Up to 168mbps actually, if you want to get specific. All on the towers they already have. Pretty much explains their decision to forgo LTE for the time being huh? So while yes, their network isn't a "true" 4G network, no one can argue that they're lying about achieving 4G and higher speeds (even higher than WiMax).
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They are absolutely lying. You can't achieve, from a device, anything above a theoretical maximum of 84Mbps with bonding AND MIMO. Otherwise, you are stick at 42Mbps with JUST boding, and 21.5 with no bonding or MIMO. 4G is officially designated at 100Mbps while moving at high speed and 1Gbps while static. You aren't going to see bonding and MIMO at all, because that requires a HUGE increase in the backhaul capabilities (100GbE minimum), and all new antennas and base stations. This is just not happening.
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well i hope the reception will be better. i'm fine with a download speed of 2-3 mbps as long as it's stable. I have to stay on one corner of our house to have a 3G.
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T-Mobile has been significantly improving their coverage area over the last 5 years, and it is far better than when I first had it. In due time, they will cover most of the US.
yeah, Edge is good for me but of course 3G is what i'm paying for so i hope that the reception will be better in my place.
My speed on my stock Vibrant seems to have improved just recently. Sitting inside my house in the Seattle area tonight the Speedtest.net app gave results of: 5.3-5.4 Mbps down and 1.6-1.7 Mbps up. That was the range for several successive trials. The weird thing was that when I laid the phone down on my desk, the speed dropped down to about 3.2 Mbps down and 0.70 Mbps up. When I picked it up and held it in my hand again, the speed climbed right back up to the higher range, which I verified several times. Coincidence, or could there be some body-phone-antenna thing going on?
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My speed on my stock Vibrant seems to have improved just recently. Sitting inside my house in the Seattle area tonight the Speedtest.net app gave results of: 5.3-5.4 Mbps down and 1.6-1.7 Mbps up. That was the range for several successive trials. The weird thing was that when I laid the phone down on my desk, the speed dropped down to about 3.2 Mbps down and 0.70 Mbps up. When I picked it up and held it in my hand again, the speed climbed right back up to the higher range, which I verified several times. Coincidence, or could there be some body-phone-antenna thing going on?
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No, your phone is probably cycling through two different towers. Check to see if your CID changes (Ever) in your home.
AlexSochi8 said:
So as soon as they fully install the faster network in New York City then i will be able to get up to 7.2mbps on vibrant?
I kinda doubt that since now at very best I get 2.2mbps in a very tower rich city
That would make vibrant internet speed upto 3.5 times faster? Is that really likely?
If that is then Froyo + faster internet is all i can dream of!
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By my old place in Brooklyn I was getting up to 5Mbs down back in July, but my apartment was like a Faraday Cage, by my folks in Brooklyn I am constantly getting up to 5.5Mbs, and at my new place in South Brooklyn I am back to harsh reality with 1.1Mbs at best.
These are the download speeds, upload is usually stays the same at around 1.3Mbs
Does anyone else find it odd that this xmas the Nexus S will hit T-Mobile and it... doesn't support 4g networks?!
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/11/11/nexus-s-specs-leak/
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Does anyone else find it odd that this xmas the Nexus S will hit T-Mobile and it... doesn't support 4g networks?!
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Well, on a technicality, T-Mobile doesn't have 4G (but then neither does anyone). However, yes, it is surprising that its only 7.2mbps down and 5.76 up, which doesn't seem like a big change from the Nexus One.
What's frustrating is that they might release this for T-Mobile now, and a few months later, they'll release an AT&T version, just like the N1. If its a Googlephone, why can't they make it pentaband 3G?!
On a side note, would have been nice if it had a LTE radio. Heck, even CDMA capability too.
5MP Camera
512MB Ram (Rumor)
I wanted it to be an upgrade from the N1 in everyway
eg. 8MP camera
756MB Ram
And theyre both on the D'HD
t-mobile does not has 4G...
MacaronyMax said:
5MP Camera
512MB Ram (Rumor)
I wanted it to be an upgrade from the N1 in everyway
eg. 8MP camera
756MB Ram
And theyre both on the D'HD
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Ya i don't agree with the rumors..But if the nexus is coming from Samsung..I guess everything is possible...
shr said:
Ya i don't agree with the rumors..But if the nexus is coming from Samsung..I guess everything is possible...
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Dudez Nothing is in stone. The Nexus S may still have HSPA+. Wait for an official spec sheet.
Anderdroid said:
Dudez Nothing is in stone. The Nexus S may still have HSPA+. Wait for an official spec sheet.
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That's why i said..I don't agree with the rumors...
I am waiting for the Official spec sheet.Haven't searched yet stil i guess GSMarena would be the 1st place i'd search...
4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
yeah, i'm not an idiot 4g sponsor by any means. i just found it odd that the accidental best buy ad shows the phone will not support it. if this turns out to be true then gingerbread better be some epic software upgrade in itself.
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4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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lmao no they don't 14.2mps lol
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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12mbps on hspa, and Im currently in a city of only 15,000 people.
Face it, the USA has terrible high speed mobile connectivity in most places!
lonelykatana said:
12mbps on hspa, and Im currently in a city of only 15,000 people.
Face it, the USA has terrible high speed mobile connectivity in most places!
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yea..I wish it was more consistent ..now I don't mind switching to Verizon for that consistency..2mbps is enough for me on the go.
souljaboy said:
4g and hspa+ are soo stupid cliché-s in usa , in europ my hspa speed **** on the usa 4g and hspa+ speeds(what is it 1.5mb 3.5g and 3mb tops 4g ?? i get 5mb+ easy) theres absolutely no need to them cuz the network is inferior to the speed of the hspa technology
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U a ediat ...
check out t-mobile network speeds:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=249176&id=108726828894
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Ummm. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Where I live:
AT&T 3G ~1.5mbps (Motorola Backflip)
Cricket 3G ~1.5mbps (Samsung Fascinate)
T-Mobile 3G ~7.2mbps (Samsung Vibrant)
T-Mobile HSPA+ "4G" ~10.2mbps (HTC G2)
My Pittsburgh T-Mobile speeds **** on your europ
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i was going to let it go and let him be amazed when he discovered this. but...cool! lol
nice job guys now we ****tin rite back at em
the usa speeds im talkin about were in houses in various phone reviews eg. real life numbers not standing on the street or in a metropolis
back to my point
14.4 Mbit/s HSDPA max speed
21 Mbit/s HSPA+ max speed
ur damn network is nowhere close to these , stop being obessed with new marketing abbreviations
by the logic u have , ud happily buy an ice cream truck with a larger engine or newer model , and think the ice cream tastes better(placebo at best) CUZ THE NUMBA IS HIGHER in the ad
Yeah, I hope those rumors aren't true.
I won't get an SGS2 if that is true..
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nice job guys now we ****tin rite back at em
the usa speeds im talkin about were in houses in various phone reviews eg. real life numbers not standing on the street or in a metropolis
back to my point
14.4 Mbit/s HSDPA max speed
21 Mbit/s HSPA+ max speed
ur damn network is nowhere close to these , stop being obessed with new marketing abbreviations
by the logic u have , ud happily buy an ice cream truck with a larger engine or newer model , and think the ice cream tastes better(placebo at best) CUZ THE NUMBA IS HIGHER in the ad
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Proof or it didn't happen
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Alex530 said:
Proof or it didn't happen
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ur post is the proof ... that ur brain never has advanced beyond the level of a 6 year old
Christ, you people seem to be getting rather worked up about how fast your connections are :-S
AdrianK said:
Christ, you people seem to be getting rather worked up about how fast your connections are :-S
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Hmm.. I agree
Altough I will ignore you all unless you have fibre optics speed jk
I did a test with my nexus one and G2, I don't know how but my Nexus still out performed my G2 Am I Glad To Be An Owner Of A Nexus1
Nexus One:
DL-4.46
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DL-3.74
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I live in a suburb of Boston and have great HSPA+ service. My N1 is getting on average during peak hours 4.2 DL and a constant 1.3 UL. I am very happy with those numbers. T-Mobile has a solid Network and blows away AT&T, Sprint and Verizon in my area. I live only 10 miles out of Boston and one mile away from RT 128. Suppose to be strong areas for all the Carriers.
Thank You T-Mobile.
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If the T-mobile or Att network your using has an average of 7.2mbps or less, wont the Nexus One get the exact same download speed as any HSPA+ phone?
The only time an HSPA+ phone would ever "outpace" the N1 in download speed would be if the network is built up past 7.2mbps right? Like if the average speed was 10mbps THEN the HSPA+ would finally kick in but until 7.2mbps the Nexus One will keep up with any HSPA+ phone right?
I didn't know the G2 was LTE enabled
HSDPA+ is 3G btw.
I don't know, my thoughts were G2: better phone, better performance. LOL (Simpled Minded) Huh? It doesn't make sense to buy a 4G phone then! Forget 4G
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LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.
GldRush98 said:
LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.
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Well even Verizon's LTE network is still around 7-12 Mbit, not MB/sec... and no where near true "4G."
The ITU's newest standard now allows "evolved 3G technologies" such as HSPA+ to eventually qualify for "4G" nomenclature, but this is still quite some time from now, given that it's roughly 1/10 of the required speed for mobile applications. What's funny, though, is that T-Mobile's HSPA+ is generally faster than Sprint's WiMAX in many areas, despite the fact that under the old classification system WiMAX could eventually become 4G whereas HSPA+ could not.
IMT-Advanced basically became what the old "4G" classification was, including the 100 Mbit mobile and 1 Gbit fixed speed requirements, as well as goodies like VoIP and OFDMA.
Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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wtharden said:
Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.
RogerPodacter said:
yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.
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Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!
galaxys said:
+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!
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+2 dittos.
vinnyjr said:
Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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I'm very impressed with t-mobile and give them all the credit in the world for what they've done with their data speeds. ATT is a joke when it comes to being a leader like that. They do nothing but follow the other carriers and react rather than set the standard. But I'm sad t-mobile started this fake 4g thing.
Extremely satisfied with my Nexus One on TMO. I'm roughly 20 miles north west from northeastern Philly and just like the other users have said T-Mobile has the best coverage in my area compared to Verizon and AT&T. My work phone is a Blackberry Tour running on Verizon's network and the network coverage blows compared to T-Mobile's in my area.
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Rogers in canada is crazy fast... It seems my upload is capped at 1mbit up but download speeds have gotten upwards of 4 even 5 mbit down!
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I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
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What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices?
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I think this GNote is HSPA+. My results from Speedtest in Atlanta, GA...(see below/attached).
I wondered the same before so scoured around a bunch and saw that ATT speeds can vary between 1mpbs - 7mpbs down, and .5-1.5mbps up depending on various factors.
It really depends on where you are. Most importantly, how many other AT&T customers share the same tower as you. Typically, in a big crowded metropolitan area, speeds are lower. My HSPA+ speed rarely exceeds 1mbps. Often in low 100kbps range.
That's why if you want speed, LTE is the only way to go. Even without counting on future proof, the fact that very few ppl are using the separate LTE network (no, it doesn't share the same network as HSPA+) at this time.
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I think this GNote is HSPA+. My results from Speedtest in Atlanta, GA...(see below/attached).
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Thanks. Do you remember what it was from your non-HSPA+ device?
k1ng617 said:
I wondered the same before so scoured around a bunch and saw that ATT speeds can vary between 1mpbs - 7mpbs down, and .5-1.5mbps up depending on various factors.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. That's why I want to know what you got before HSPA+ and after HSPA+.
foxbat121 said:
It really depends on where you are. Most importantly, how many other AT&T customers share the same tower as you. Typically, in a big crowded metropolitan area, speeds are lower. My HSPA+ speed rarely exceeds 1mbps. Often in low 100kbps range.
That's why if you want speed, LTE is the only way to go. Even without counting on future proof, the fact that very few ppl are using the separate LTE network (no, it doesn't share the same network as HSPA+) at this time.
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That's unfortunate. I'm afraid I may be int he same boat. I don't feel I need LTE, but I need more than what my Captivate is giving me.
In DFW I usually get 6-8 mbps down and 1 up on my GNote.
On my skyrocket, which is LTE, I get 30-60 down and 10 to 15 up.
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E_man5112 said:
I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
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You should read this. Should answer all your speed questions quite definitively!
I typically get this sort of speed on H+
Something must happened with AT&T in South Orange County, California, I used to achieve max 1.3 - 2 mbps, right now I am consistent and getting 3.2 and sometimes in some places even higher, the highest so far that I achieved was in Huntington Beach Home Depot parking lot ;-) 5.7 mbps.
Best speeds I got at the end of my driveway, just north of Baltimore, MD was 8mbps down and 2.5mbps up. But my average is more like 4 down and 1.5 up. I'm using an ATT iPad Unlimited Micro-SIM card.
Never has speed issues with my Note on ATT. Here's a recent test.
I'm in DFW...
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Spartan2x said:
Best speeds I got at the end of my driveway, just north of Baltimore, MD was 8mbps down and 2.5mbps up. But my average is more like 4 down and 1.5 up. I'm using an ATT iPad Unlimited Micro-SIM card.
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That's good news for me as i was planning on switching from Tmobile to att soon. Edge with Tmobile is just not cutting it.
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Thanks for all the answers guys
carlitos66 said:
Something must happened with AT&T in South Orange County, California, I used to achieve max 1.3 - 2 mbps, right now I am consistent and getting 3.2 and sometimes in some places even higher, the highest so far that I achieved was in Huntington Beach Home Depot parking lot ;-) 5.7 mbps.
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That's what I am getting now (1.3) so hopefully I'll end up with 3.2+ with the note. That would be enough I think.
I'm in Philly and my speeds suck no matter what. Location is the main thing to look at here.
E_man5112 said:
I'm looking at buying a galaxy note, but the international Galaxy Note is really the one I want. Unfortunately, I need data speeds. Not the 40mbps of LTE, but I need more than my 1.4/0.9 mpbs that I get now on my Samsung Captivate. What speeds do you guys get on your notes? What did you get on your non-HSPA+ devices? Was there much of an improvement? I tether, and the added speed would be handy, if it exists.
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Is your captivate stock?
Some of the custom roms will do wonders for your data speed
Ran a few speed tests side by side against a stock captivate and it was not even close specially in uploads
Im getting around 600 to 900 KB over UMTS,HSPA+ is still being implemented in my area as we speak
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Never has speed issues with my Note on ATT. Here's a recent test.
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What APN setting do you use?
ph00ny said:
Is your captivate stock?
Some of the custom roms will do wonders for your data speed
Ran a few speed tests side by side against a stock captivate and it was not even close specially in uploads
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Nope, currently running the AOSP ICS rom.
Which service is best...
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It probably depends on the area. DC-HSPA on T-Mobile actually runs faster than Verizon LTE in some areas just because Verizon doesn't open it up enough or have enough capacity or something. The nice part is that DC-HSPA is really just a fast 3G, so even if your phone only hits 14.4 HSPA, it still goes pretty fast. T-Mobile will deploy LTE next year and if that has problems it will have DC-HSPA as a fallback.
I have T-mobile and I easily get 22mbps down, 2mbps up. My husband has Verizon and he gets 23mbps down, 7mbps up. The downlink speeds are comparable. The only difference is in the uplink speeds. Verizon has the edge here. However, I have used both phones side by side and for most tasks, there isn't a huge difference.
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4G Late?
4G LTE
-Destroys Battery life
-Sales Gimmick
4G HSPA+
-Fast enough
-Better battery life
Can anybody really distinguish, with the naked eye, which is faster? Whose testing website is really accurate? Besides bragging rights and marketing fanfare, does it make any difference?
Hi guys,
I do not need LTE due to those facts:
1) HSDPA is fast enough.
2) in common cell phone contracts over here in Germany your speed is reduced to 64kbit after you used up 300mb per month. If I had more than that we could talk about LTE.
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Looneytoon98 said:
Can anybody really distinguish, with the naked eye, which is faster? Whose testing website is really accurate? Besides bragging rights and marketing fanfare, does it make any difference?
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Nope.
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LTE plans here are more expensive. That's a good reason.
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LTE not Late
Mesaman2012 said:
Which service is best...
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FYI there is no "Late 4G", it is called "LTE". Actually there are two types of 4G; LTE and WiMax.
LTE was first used by Verizon, but is now also used by ATT. Due to marketing "schemes" some believe the Apple iPhone 5 has 4g. False! it has HSPA+, not 4G/ Sure, HSPA+ is a ton faster than 3g, but it is still not 4G.
Sprint, and T-Mobile are now also starting to use LTE. Unfortunately I don't believe LTE is standard worldwide, meaning they use different frequency bands. Similar to how a GSM american phone, may or may not work in Europe
I'm sorry that I ever put up such a topic would you ladies and gentlemen please not respond to this stupid topic.I would like to apologize for spamming the thread with this ignorant topic. Takecare
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Either way, we won't be hitting 4G for another 5/10 years. Although, I can't imagine why the hell a phone needs 1Gbps down and 100Mbps up. Maybe 30 years from now those speeds will be standard.
LTE and WiMax are still 3G. They're marketed as 4G (read: FauxG). They're really 3.9G.
Only LTE-Advanced is a certified 4G tech. All the others are still 3G
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times_infinity said:
LTE and WiMax are still 3G. They're marketed as 4G (read: FauxG). They're really 3.9G.
Only LTE-Advanced is a certified 4G tech. All the others are still 3G
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I know that was the case originally, but it's my understanding that the group behind the 4G standards was pushed enough to bend what it qualifies as 4G. Originally 4G was when you had a minimum of 100Mbps download, but now HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all considered 4G technologies.
geoff5093 said:
I know that was the case originally, but it's my understanding that the group behind the 4G standards was pushed enough to bend what it qualifies as 4G. Originally 4G was when you had a minimum of 100Mbps download, but now HSPA+, WiMax, and LTE are all considered 4G technologies.
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By name only. The carriers cried and whined for it, so the ITU caved. It's STILL "faux G" as far as many people are concerned.
Call it whatever you want. It doesn't change the fact that it's still technically based on an older technology.
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Would prefer HSPA than 4G. On 4G, it's really a battery eater. However, the highest HSPA speed I've gotten was around 3mbps and around 1-2mbps upload compared to 30-45mbps download and ~20-30mbps upload.
Normally the HSPA speeds is almost the same as running on GPRS during peak hours until the three local telco was fined for providing below standard data speeds/coverage then it managed to peak around 4-5.
Clubbysupercharged said:
Would prefer HSPA than 4G. On 4G, it's really a battery eater. However, the highest HSPA speed I've gotten was around 3mbps and around 1-2mbps upload compared to 30-45mbps download and ~20-30mbps upload.
Normally the HSPA speeds is almost the same as running on GPRS during peak hours until the three local telco was fined for providing below standard data speeds/coverage then it managed to peak around 4-5.
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That's your carrier. I've seen HSPA speeds hit 20Mb down and LTE speeds hit 60Mb down almost from seeing other speedtests.
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That's your carrier. I've seen HSPA speeds hit 20Mb down and LTE speeds hit 60Mb down almost from seeing other speedtests.
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Or his location (or the hardware limitation of the handset)
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MrObvious said:
That's your carrier. I've seen HSPA speeds hit 20Mb down and LTE speeds hit 60Mb down almost from seeing other speedtests.
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I know, that's my carrier problem. Their HSPA speeds is really pathetic.
Thanks for sharing
LTE>HSPA+
My best friend bought the black Iphone five (64 gig) when he came down to Jax, and in town, we compared our speed test results.
Iphone five (lte on at&t) first test- 68 mbps down/16 mbps up
Htc Amaze (faux g) best result that day-23mbps down/3 mbps up
So, strictly speed wise, he consistently was able to pull high 60's down, while my phone that theoretically can hit 42 mbps, never reached 30's. So it seems that location is an important factor, but none the less, I cant kid myself, I rooted my phone and changed the values in the build.prop file to command the phone to max out the radio, while his was straight out of the box. Imagine if he were to jailbreak that monster, its capable of 80 mbps down. The only problem is that his screen is smaller than mine, and he has some crappy plan that wont let him tether, as oposed to us, we can hack out phones to utilize our signal on something easier on the eyes.
Now bear in mind, I am just commenting on data speed, and he is back in Greensboro, North Carolina, and he only gets 20mbps down at best. Then again, 20 mbps down would be my phone on a good day in the middle of the night.