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This is a thread that could become irrelevant at any time with the release of a new firmware, but..
In people's experience, which if these firmwares is faster, more stable, and less laggy?
I have a Galaxy that I upgraded to JM2, but I'm not playing around with it much as it's a present for somebody - I just wanted to have it up to date when I give it to them.
So I haven't seen the difference in daily usage. Any thoughts?
On just playing around on the home scree, adding and removing widgets, they both seem pretty fast.
Thanks guys
I've not really benchmarked the different roms to be honest, but I have JM2 and have noticed that the phone lags a little when opening, closing and working within various apps.
3Banana notes is quick for me, whereas Seesmic lags when I hit 'compose' for a new tweet. The default media player is pretty snappy opening, as is the market, but other apps are slow...
Not sure whether it's a phone thing, a rom thing or an app thing.
i flashed from JF3 stock to JM2 and notice its a little quicker in day to day activitys but i still get the app lag when opening certain apps like mentioned above.
I think no firmware so far in entirely lag-free! You DO need the sdcard fix!
kalpik said:
I think no firmware so far in entirely lag-free! You DO need the sdcard fix!
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I don't apply any of the firmware updates, but just SD card fix. Rarely notice big lagging now.
For me, JM2 gives me the best performance. I'll give it a day or 2 to see if I even need the sd card fix.
I ran the Quadrant Standard bench on JM1 and JM2. While the JM1 got a 940 result the JM2 gets only 880 points, and it sims a little slower than the JM1. Even the accelerometer turns the image after a longer period. Both have a very good memory management, sometimes I get 270 MB free out of 326MB, and it stays in the range without the need of a reset after a long period of use.
I have heard the card fix really works...but the process seems very complicated to me. Perhaps I'm just a numbskull, but I dont understand how to do it...
...I dont want to do stuff that will brick the phone, unless I really know what I'm doing?
azreil24 said:
I ran the Quadrant Standard bench on JM1 and JM2. While the JM1 got a 940 result the JM2 gets only 880 points, and it sims a little slower than the JM1. Even the accelerometer turns the image after a longer period. Both have a very good memory management, sometimes I get 270 MB free out of 326MB, and it stays in the range without the need of a reset after a long period of use.
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I think you have the memory bit wrong - it's showing 270MB USED out of 326MB (at least for me... I've never seen it dip below the 200s.
I just upgraded from XWJG5 to XWJM2. Good thing I ran Titanium Backup first! I didn't realize the flash would wipe all of my data. So far so good.
If you use a kill application the best I have seen so far is around 93MB free as Task Manager restarts by default.
The built in kill application on JM2 only kills battery hog applications which are running not the run of the mill applications running in the background.
Yes, I did notice the native Task Manager.
I have noticed with this firmware that the MarketEnabler is not working. I can't download some of my paid apps.
TMW597 said:
Yes, I did notice the native Task Manager.
I have noticed with this firmware that the MarketEnabler is not working. I can't download some of my paid apps.
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Use Eris Market fix from the market
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I wish it were so easy. I have never had success with Eris. I have had success with MarketEnabler, but the latest version may need an update to work with the latest firmware. Very frustrating though. Fortunately for me before I did the firmware upgrade I used Titanium Backup. Had I not I would have no Slingplayer or other paid apps on the SGS right now.
Back to Eris, I installed it last night well before midnight, cleared the cache, did the reboot and waited until this morning it being a new day, and still no luck.
Hi All,
So I updated from JG5 to XM1 then XM2. Moving from JG5 to XM1 was very laggy and seemed that XM1 might have been on the Alpha release level, it was good but too buggy.
I then upgraded to XM2 from XM1 and found significant improvements. Then I started to notice things that would normally work would not. The GPS didn't work, the market didn't work, titanium back up, kept getting interrupted during restore even when using after a clean reboot. Browsing through the phone was generally slower and menus would take a while to load.
XM2 seems great on first boot, but after you start loading some of your apps in and customize it to work the way you want it to, then you have problems.
I went back to JG5 as it is far more stable and reliable. I might wait till Froyo before I flash again, i've probably done 12 different flashes in the past 2 weeks.
Let me know if anyone has had better luck with XM2.
on my part.. i can say that JG5 is still the fastest and operates more stable than JM2 at stock settings no rooting done.
installed samset 1.6 and seemed to get abit slower in opening applications..
..will go back to JG5 for now.. hehehe
|| disclaimer: other users may experience differently. ^_^ ||
Im wondering why the phone is reporting more than 256MB usable since the current kernel version only allows upto 256MB
I found JG5 more stable whereas I have encountered few issues with JM2, market behaves strangly installed apps not showing status installed. More bugs in JM2, more lagging and apps taking longer to load like sky news i think I will go back to JG5.
JG5 is an official firmware? I mean App market will work without Eris Fix ?
Thanks !
Is JG5 an official firmware on which App Market is working without Eris fix ?
Thanks !
Hello all. Well, last night I rooted my phone and then was going to install the original wireless tether app that Jr33 did.
My problem is when I tried to make a backup after it rooted I now get this:
Opening update package...
E:Can't open /cach/update.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted.
From here I can reboot or reinstall but it does the same thing and just brings me back to rebooted with no backup made as far as I can tell. There's never a choice to select nandroid.
Is there something I'm missing here? Is my update.zip corrupted? Or any suggestions on what to do next?
Thanks
did you install Clockwork recovery post-root? That places a new update.zip in your internal SD that is needed for taking and restoring nandroid backups.
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I downloaded the update.zip file again. Gives me the same error message.
I think I think I had ROM Manager installed before I rooted but I hadn't run anything in the software yet. (Can't quite remember, slept since then)
Go to Rom Manager, pick the Vibrant as your phone, top option will be to download and install clockwork recovery. Once this is done you can make a nandroid backup inside clockwork recovery... You can use rom manager to boot into it (NOT the stock recovery)
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That worked. Picked Vibrant as my phone. Then it didn't error out and I could get to the screen where I could choose nandroid. Ran the backup. Rebooted & ran the Mobile AP. It works too. Now maybe lag fix next... Thanks!
^ why bother with the lag fix? Froyo is coming this month... patience.
Mostly because the lag on my phone drives me crazy, I might wait for 2.2 though. Lots of reading before I pull the trigger on the lag fix. Seems like lots of people are on the fence as to if they're happy with it or not and I'm not a fan of unintended consequences.
FWIW, this is my 2nd phone & the first was less laggy than this one, but it drained batteries like no tomorrow. Never got more than 5hrs out of a fully charged battery. This phone has gone 18hrs but usually more like 12.
^ that sounds absurd to me (5 hours)....
when you say "lag"... what exactly are you seeing that makes you say it's laggy? Sounds like a basic question, but if you can, please explain.... Do you mean the app drawer/moving screens, etc.... do you mean opening apps?
I would suggest trying LauncerPro.
It was absurd. I unplugged once at midnight fully charged and went to bed. Didn't wake up in time for work because the phone didn't make it to 6:30 when my alarm was supposed to go off. I exchanged it that day after work.
The "lag" I consider is mostly opening & closing applications. Like when I'm in gmail and I hit the home or back button to go to the home screen. I press & then wait what feels like half a second for the phone to respond. Other examples are in Craigsnotification when I want to mark something as read or want to go back a screen and it just hangs there for a second. The other phone was much faster with this. With this processor I expect applications to open virtually as fast as I can press the icon.
I'll try out LauncherPro, thanks.
Re: lag - I'm not sure, but it seems to me that syncing operations in the background seem to cause slow response times, or lag, if you will.
Might help to look into what applications you have running, ex. Facebook, twitter, etc and try decreasing the sync frequency.
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If you are rooted you may also want to try Autostarts (or a similar app) that will prevent apps from starting during certain tasks (bootup, texts, emails, etc). It may help... I really do not notice the lag people always talk about. I also came from a CM5 G1 to the Vibrant, so perhaps it is relative.
The lag was pretty bad on mine. Black screen for a few seconds as I was switching between apps or opening/closing them. It wasn't like it was the worst thing in the world or anything, but it was definitely enough to notice and gnaw at me daily.
At the time, I thought it was unrelated but the native Email app (which I synched up to my work email) was simply craptastic, to the point of me going back to my work-issued Treo 750 to simply read and reply to emails given how absurdly slow and non-responsive the Email app was.
Anyway, I downloaded RyanZA's One-click Lag .apk from the Market, applied it, and I couldn't be happier with my phone. Now it feels like the phone I expected it to be when I bought it, no more lag, it's super-responsive, and it also fixed my email app issues. The Email app is seriously a night and day difference after applying the lag fix, I really like it now and use it daily.
My wife has an unrooted stock Vibrant (she's not as adventurous I guess) and we both use Launcher Pro. After the Lag Fix I handed my phone to her and told her to mess around with opening up apps, streaming pandora, surfing, etc. She said it was definitely much faster than her phone and more responsive.
Re: possible adverse consequences... well, that's what nandroid backups are for, I guess. Between Clockwork/nandroid backups I've taken, both the rooted and unrooted stock update.zip files provided here at XDA, and the option to flash to stock via ODIN, I felt that those things were enough to mitigate the risk of applying the lag fix to my phone, including the mods I've applied like applying the MobileAP and Captivate camera .zips. YMMV.
This is my first Android phone, coming from Blackberry Curve 8320. I really expected it would be a giant leap in performance considering the Vibrant is 3x faster than the Curve. I about took it back the first day because the Facebook app was so unbelievably slow and lacking features compared to the BB app, I about threw it across the room a few times waiting for things to load.
I was stuck on EDGE with the BB with my d/l speed somewhere around 800kbps compared to I regularly hit 6Mbps with the Vibrant on 3G. Inexplicable to me why it takes as long as it does to function. I'm replacing my cable internet with wireless tethering so the 3G was important to me.
Launcher Pro seems to be a noticeable improvement in speed. I'm going to miss the full screen Updates widget... Have to figure out a replacement.
Most likely I'll pull the trigger on the lag fix, too impatient. If only the GPS worked the majority of the time... Going on a 1500 mile road trip next week and I know I'll be cussing at this thing. Even without GPS on the BB as long as I had internet at least I could always figure out where I was.
Thanks for everyone's responses, very helpful. I'm sure I'll love this thing eventually, hopefully.
OP,
not sure if you tried this but try rebooting into clockwork recovery and doing a nandroid from there. two ways to do that, once you have the clockwork update.zip in sd root:
1. with the clockwork app. option reboot into clockwork recovery
2. turn phone off > turn phone on while holding power and vol +/- > install update zip > you should now be in clockwork recovery
I am having some problems with the Market....
Market is very very slow..loads very slow, d/l very slow.
but the browser or any app using data, its very fast. Speedtest gives me
2500+ kbps D/L.
please help....
Im using
Omega v12 WWE XT CHT
2.14.... radio
as far as android roms,,,,,,no matter what i try market is slow...
Please help!!!!
dynamisoz said:
I am having some problems with the Market....
Market is very very slow..loads very slow, d/l very slow.
but the browser or any app using data, its very fast. Speedtest gives me
2500+ kbps D/L.
please help....
Im using
Omega v12 WWE XT CHT
2.14.... radio
as far as android roms,,,,,,no matter what i try market is slow...
Please help!!!!
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Do you know if you've been using rmnet builds or ppp ones?
could also be things like radio/winmo rom combo, radio/android build combo. I don't trust speedtest.net either. It seems to give higher than actual readings.
Check my sig and if you don't mind the initial setup time and having a stripped down winmo rom, try out that combination. I recommend either of the android builds there. I can confirm fast market downloads on both. Currently using the MIUI build and I get fast speeds. (MIUI is a little buggy at first, but once it settles, it's good enough to be a daily build)
I've tried the rmnet and the ppp version. The weird thing is its just the Market thats slow. Browser is super fast, and any app requiring data its super fast, just the market is slow. tried many radios but wont help.
I guess one thing I haven't tried after this market speed issue is changing the win Mo rom.
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I've tried the rmnet and the ppp version. The weird thing is its just the Market thats slow. Browser is super fast, and any app requiring data its super fast, just the market is slow. tried many radios but wont help.
I guess one thing I haven't tried after this market speed issue is changing the win Mo rom.
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i think it's useless chaning the winmo rom to increase market download speed. on my device, the market is slow too. so why everyone thinks this must be a problem of the device? maybe the market IS just slow!
When I say slow I mget, 3 min to get 1.3 MB download ..
Before it would have taken literally 20 seconds..
Its slower than what is used to get on edge
dynamisoz said:
When I say slow I mget, 3 min to get 1.3 MB download ..
Before it would have taken literally 20 seconds..
Its slower than what is used to get on edge
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Even with WiFi it's slow for me.
Same problem here. Market has been slow for me on all builds that i've tried. No matter if i try via Wifi, UMTS or whatever. Speed must be around 15-30 kb/s.
I remember reading about an article some weeks ago, that german users were experiencing slow dl speeds with the market. Google was trying to fix that, but don't if they really did.
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Found the article ! It's in german:
http://www.n-tv.de/technik/Android-Market-macht-Aerger-article1283961.html
15-30kb/s ...thats exactly what im getting......
is anyone else experiencing this kind of speed.....
is there any fix???
I have this same exact issue. I thought I was the only one with this problem. I tried different builds, winmo, and radios still get really slow market speeds.
It took me a full 2 minutes to download an app about 500 KBs on wifi with speedtest speeds of 6 mbps +
can any devs chime in....
any idea what might've went wrong
slow market download fix
I have had the same issue but resolved it by unmounting the sd card. when the sd card is unmounted the market is 10x faster and downloads are normal. unmounting the sd does not seem to affect the android os either. I sure would like to know why this is though. Anyone have any ideas?
jbatysmallville said:
I have had the same issue but resolved it by unmounting the sd card. when the sd card is unmounted the market is 10x faster and downloads are normal. unmounting the sd does not seem to affect the android os either. I sure would like to know why this is though. Anyone have any ideas?
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Same issues here. Market slow as hell, plus, can't donload from awesome drop or dropbox.
I guess I can't unmount my SD card since I'm running apps on data.img, right?
Market itself isn't slow. Slowness is somehow from our devices. Downloaded today angry birds lite with my hd2 and GF's galaxy s and galaxy was ready under 1min when my hd2 took 20 minutes! (and then failed to install until did unmount trick)
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I guess I can't unmount my SD card since I'm running apps on data.img, right?
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Yes we can!
Go to Settings -> Sd card -> Unmount
after Home -> Market
Slow market (but fast internet) problems could be caused by your Google account not being sync'ed properly to Market. Easy way to check (if you're in a country that offers paid apps) is to see if the "Top Paid" category exists in Apps/Games sections. If not, then you have market sync problems.
Only way to fix it is to 1) clear *all* Market data and cache (easiest to just delete /data/data/com.android.vending), 2) reboot, making sure that Market isn't running in the background when you do finish rebooting, 3) open up the dialer and type in *#*#2432546#*#* via the dialer keypad. If done properly, the entire line will disappear and after a few seconds a "Checkin Successful" notification should appear. 4) try logging into Market again... if you can see paid apps again, then problem fixed
If not, then try also deleting your Google account settings and re-signing in, then repeating the above steps again.
My downloads in the market via 3G or H are okay. I get about 2MB per minute.
But if I try to download something through WiFi it doesn't work anymore. It stucks at "Downloading...".
But the trick above from aussiebum did it a short time ago, as I had the same issue. Thanks
jbatysmallville said:
I have had the same issue but resolved it by unmounting the sd card. when the sd card is unmounted the market is 10x faster and downloads are normal. unmounting the sd does not seem to affect the android os either. I sure would like to know why this is though. Anyone have any ideas?
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This really work! Download skype (8mb) and it took less than a minute. But phone reboot upon installation. Not rebooting but kick me back put to the blue android logo with thing flying around it. App didn't finished installing.
I went into cyanogenmod setting, application and change the application setting from auto to internal. After that, skype installed successfully then phone reload android logo again but skype works now. Will test other smaller app to see if this will strike again.
Thanks for the tip tho.
Update: just try pandora (1mb) and angry bird (11mb) and phone didn't restart. so size no issue here. Might be that skype install system file or something which cause the phone to reload/restart...idk...
Hi all, I just wanted to give a BIG thanks for the tip to unmount sd card. My d/l speeds in market went from 20-25 kb/sec to 300-400 kb/sec with 3g/H. With wifi, now is about 30-40 kb/sec consistent. Amazing tips!
I'm on T-Mobile USA, with bangsters 1.5 build (PPP), and my winmo rom is nrgz oct. 8 dinik cht. Radio 2.15.
So I just did this tonight on my NC. I got cm7, the marketplace, and the overclocking installed on the sd card. Everything seems to work, except the wifi connection to my d-link DIR-615 router is awful. Downloading apps is essentially impossible. First off, the notifaction bar now says somethink like "Downloading Dolphin Browser and 28 other apps"; I clearly did not try to download 28 apps at once, and in the market app it only lists the 4 I actually want to download (The 28 apps are obviously a mistake). Second, even if its a single app downloading it gets stuck at "Starting download...".
Also, just using the stock browser is painfully slow compared to the stock NC browser.
Looking around the internet, there appear to be some issues with NC's running cm7 with dlink routers; I have only found a fix for instances where cm7 is running off the internal memory.
Any thoughts at all? I'd really like to be able to get on the internet with this thing...
Is it possible to just "reinstall" the gapps stuff on top of what is currently there?
Mines hella slow too, it was ok for a week or so and now it's pretty much useless if I want to use the internet on it.
I've been using MCCM HD V4.5 for a few days now, and have rebooted multiple times, but I've found my download speeds for apps over wifi are extremely slow. It takes over 15 mins to download even small apps. Is this normal? Also, my Android market has the old look and I would llike to know how to update it if possible.
15 minutes over wi-fi is a bit long for a typical app unless you have a really poor wi-fi signal. I used V4 of this build several months ago and I don't recall having any problems. I switched to builds without HTC Sense because I decided that I prefer the flexibility of the straight Android UI.
I'm not sure about the market app. The build that I use (AmeriCanAndroid) has the new version.
I've managed to update the market, but app downloads are still slow. Odd thing is, they only take around 5 mins to download over wifi on 4shared. I think i might switch to AmeriCanAndroid as well, it looks good. Or possibly Rafdroid, cos I prefer sense.