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Ok something dumb happened involving a flash 10.1 file meant for evo and eris. My problem is even after removing root and doing a full recovery it is still diplaying flash 10.1. I have tried uninstalling 10.1 and i could not install the flash light 4 apk ,which i found. The only way for me to play flash content on the stock unrooted device is to reinstall the flash 10.1 apk through astro. Can someone help me get back to a stock incredibe with flash light?. It wouldn't be a big deal with froyo working great but i also suffer from the grounding issue and will be returning this device.
I hope this is the right place and i thank anyone taking the time to read this.
ps i wish i could change the title to proper spelling.
Just download the stock ruu and ruu it back before you return it. This way everything is back to factory.
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samwathegreat said:
Just download the stock ruu and ruu it back before you return it. This way everything is back to factory.
P.S. To edit your title, go to edit, and advanced mode.
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by that you are directing me to follow th following link, correct?
http://androidforums.com/all-things...ideo-howto-unroot-incredible-downgrading.html
After doing this flash is still not restored properly.
For further context the issue resulted from using this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726271
I think you're a little confused....
Stock htc droid incredibles come with flash lite ver. 10.1.123
If you take a factory-fresh incredible out of it's brand-new box and go to whatismyflash.com it will say "flash 10.1.123" but nothing about "lite".
If you already ruu'd the phone, then it s back to factory.....i don't know what you're expecting to change?
The update you applied was actually just a hack that fools some websites into thinking you have the desktop version of flash. You should be all good.
Your phone never had flash lite 4....I'm not site where you got the idea that it did, maybe confusing it with the eris?
ultimately i guess they won't look that closely at the phone, however xepisodes.com worked on my phone out the box and now it does not work on 2.1 roms. That site now only works in froyo roms with the true beta. I was confused by the whatismyflash results as well.
6/5/2011 EDIT : Going to alter this post for two reasons. First, the information inside is pretty old news and stale for most, and not even very relevant for new users. Second, there is STILL confusion between these two branches that needs to be ironed out, imo.
If you are considering modding your new GTAB, I would suggest reading this. It's going to be a long read, but you'd rather not brick your device, right?
Some Terminology Pre-Reqs to Understand
"Soft-brick". The device is not booting up properly anymore, but is potentially fixable by using a tool called "nvflash".
"APX Mode". The is a low-level mode on the GTablet where you can makes repairs and un-brick the device.
"Nvflash". This is the name of the actual tool you use, when you are in APX mode.
"Clockworkmod". This is an alternate recovery tool. It adds a few things that the 1.1-based stock recovery does not have, such as full image backups, wiping user data and SD repartitioning. The 1.2-based stock recovery is a little better, but clockworkmod still has more options than 1.2 standard recovery
"/data partition". This is the area on the device where all your user data and user apps reside. A factory reset will wipe this area.
"/sdcard partition". This is the area on the device where all your content resides. It's also the area that gets mounted on your PC.
"Data wipe" or "User data wipe". This is a factory reset -- all user apps and data will be erased. Content in the device's /sdcard is not touched.
"SD repartition". This is a data wipe and a wipe of /sdcard. So both areas are erased.
"ROM" as defined for use should be considered a BOOT ROM. This is the base program running on your tablet, like an operating system it is the first line of code to load and while not every rom is a full replacement of the viewsonic operating system only one can be loaded at a time. (thanks mERRIL!)
"Kernel" as used here is the tablets details and settings written out so the software knows how to interact with the hardware. This is where things like overclocking can be done, along with changing the way your backlight or wifi utilizes power. (thanks mERRIL for both of these!)
Two Development Branches, and How to Check which version you have
This is the FIRST thing any new Gtablet user should check imo, before you attempt to mod your device. Viewsonic / US Merchants released a new development branch with a new bootloader and kernel (which they later pulled), and older mods do NOT play nice with it. There have been reports that at least a few TigerDirect users have gotten 4349 OOTB.
So, to check which branch you are on if you are on STOCK: Go to Settings -- About Tablet -- Tapu UI Version. If your firmware starts with "1.1", then you are on the 1.1 (old) branch. If your firmware starts with "1.2", then you are on the 1.2 (new) branch. Also an obvious difference between the two is that the 1.2 branch adds a lockscreen to the tablet.
The "Two Cliffs" analogy
Try to think of these two branches as two cliffs. If you are on either side and want to mod your device, the safest way is to use a mod that is built around the branch you are on. Here on XDA Developers site, most of their mods and custom kernels are based on the 1.1 branch (as of this writing). For 1.2 based mods, there are several options but most of them are not posted here on XDA. So you have options regardless of which branch you are on. There is no advantage of using one over the other, except possibly vendor support - 1.1 is still the ROM offered by the vendor, given that their one released 1.2 ROM was pulled.
It is possible to jump from 1.1 to 1.2, and back again. But think of this as a bridge between the two. I have done extensive tests in the last month on this, and it does work MOST of the time if you follow directions. But even when doing everything right , there is still a small chance that you will "fall of the bridge" and into the abyss (soft-brick). And if you attempt to jump between them with clockworkmod, you will fall for sure, 100% of the time. Think of clockworkmod as a "bridge that is out".
The most sturdy bridge, going on my own testing, is the one based on build 1.1-3588 full stock. This makes sense because this is what Viewsonic would want you to be on, before jumping to 1.2. The reverse (1.2-4349 stock, for example) is also fairly sturdy. But again, it is a higher risk than staying within the same branch.
I'm on a 1.2-based stock ROM. What are my modding options?
If you are on the 1.2 branch, there are actually quite a few options right now. The challange for a user is finding them and understanding that you have to be careful if you try to use a 1.1 mod instead (see the "Two Cliffs Analogy", above).
The current 1.2 based options on XDA are:
- Calkulin+Clemsyn 1.5ghz Froyo Combo VERSION 6
- Beasty's 2.2.1 ROM (Adam) + Clemsyn ver 11 1.5ghz kernel
- Clem / roebeet Honeycomb alpha combo (this is a Clem creation and is actually forked from my own HC port)
- Honeycomb Android Illuminate for The Gtablet
The current 1.2 based options NOT hosted on XDA are:
- Century Eyes (Froyo based "EDEN" port)
- Mountain Laurel (Froyo based "TapnTap" port)
- Brilliant Corners (Froyo based "VEGA"/"Viewpad" port)
- Bottle of Smoke (Honeycomb port, currently is a mashup from the Adam and VEGA devs)
Pershoot and Clem both have 1.2 kernels that you can use, as of this writing. Not all of that information is here, some are on other sites.
I'm on a 1.1-based stock ROM. What are my modding options?
On XDA, there are still a number of mod options and customized kernels, at your disposal. Again, a 1.1 to 1.1 mod should be fairly safe to attempt. If you want to jump to 1.2, I would recommend reading the modder's post to see if there are instructions for 1.1 jumpers. If not, the SAFEST way to jump is to flash back to 3588 stock (including stock recovery) and then flash to 4349 using stock recovery - that will get you onto the 1.2 dev branch.
There are still a lot of 1.1-based options, if you want to stick to that path. To name a few:
- VEGAn-TAB (probably the most popular GTAB mod, so far)
- VEGAn-TAB Ginger Edition
- Cyanogenmod 7.x
- G-Harmony
- Calkulin's G-Tab ROM
- TNT Lite (similar to Calkulin's ROM, and currently retired)
- gADAM (currently retired, as well)
There are also a few custom kernels for 1.1, specifically the ones by Pershoot and Clemsyn, here at XDA.
OK, so I've confirmed that I'm on one dev branch but I want to use a mod that's on another dev branch - what do I do?
My suggestions:
1- Read the modder's first post, for possible instructions.
2- If there are no instructions for branch jumpers, DO NOT assume that it's safe to jump. Ask the modder first, to be sure.
I am generalizing here, but the older 1.1 mods might not have instructions for 1.2 users, as you didn't exist at the time the mod was created. Imo, the SAFEST way to jump to a mod that's on another branch is to use stock. So 3588 stock to 4349 stock (using standard recovery) to go up, and 4349 stock to 3588 stock (using standard recovery) to go down. The main reason why it's the safest is because stock has the bootloader image in there, which is required to jump.
I attempted a 1.1 to 1.2 (or vice versa) jump, and now I'm stuck at the birds. Is this a soft-brick?
Yes, it's a soft-brick if you are stuck at the birds. You'll need nvflash the device to fix it. There is information here on XDA on how to do that, or you can find this on other tablet sites.
I attempted a 1.1 to 1.2 (or vice versa) jump, and now I'm stuck at the GTablet screen, or I'm boot looping. Is this a soft-brick?
Probably not - more likely is that you just need to do a data wipe, or a SD repartition if that does not work.
I have a Hannspad (or an Olipad) - does this apply to me?
I believe that it does, going on what I've read. Both these devices seem to be based on the TapUI, and the 1.2 development branch. So attempting a 1.1 GTAB ROM will likely have the same pitfalls. Also keep in mind that even 1.2-based GTAB ROMs have issues. for example, the Hannspad can boot a 1.2-based ROM (like "Bottle of Smoke") but the side keys won't work because the hardware is different. I don't have these devices myself, but I am going on third-party information.
Roebeet, can I safely install over the 3588 Stock Enhancement and Market Fix? I hate to lose the Market but definitely don't want to deal with a brick right now. Another user indicated he/she installed the update over a similarly configured machine and it worked but then applied the Stock Enhancement and Market fix and soft bricked.
I appreciate all the work you do for other users, including me.
interesting!!!
I love my devs!!! Seriously you guys rock!!!
P.S. I am sticking with Vegan GingerEdition
Great post and good info roebeet - stickied for the immediate future.
MSU_Sparty said:
Roebeet, can I safely install over the 3588 Stock Enhancement and Market Fix? I hate to lose the Market but definitely don't want to deal with a brick right now. Another user indicated he/she installed the update over a similarly configured machine and it worked but then applied the Stock Enhancement and Market fix and soft bricked.
I appreciate all the work you do for other users, including me.
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I haven't tested all scenarios, as there are just too many of them. I specifically picked VEGAn as I know that's a very popular ROM and I could see new stock users flashing to that.
Rule of thumb: If you are going from a 1.1-based ROM to a 1.2-based ROM (or vice versa) and use clockworkmod, you will soft-brick your device.
Great work! More coffee for Roebeet
I guess ... better stick to TNT Lite 4.4 for now.
I am curious about (not in any hurry tho)
cwm+TnT Lite 4.4 ->fixrecovery.sh -> stock 3588 ->OTA 4349
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msu_sparty.
I ran 3991 for a good while during the time the Wooters needed help.
I tried to install the Enhancement Pack on 3991 and it semi-bricked my
G-Tablet.
I wouldn't try it until someone tests it for sure -- unless you want to
be the tester!!!???
Rev
cbay said:
Great work! More coffee for Roebeet
I guess ... better stick to TNT Lite 4.4 for now.
I am curious about (not in any hurry tho)
cwm+TnT Lite 4.4 ->fixrecovery.sh -> stock 3588 ->OTA 4349
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cwm+TnT Lite 4.4 ->fixrecovery.sh -> OTA 4349. This might work. Haven't tested it yet, but I will. It worked for build 3991, so it might work with 4349.
EDIT: One test, one success. Again, YMMV.
As a new tab owner where do I find the build number please?
Thank you
roebeet said:
cwm+TnT Lite 4.4 ->fixrecovery.sh -> OTA 4349. This might work. Haven't tested it yet, but I will. It worked for build 3991, so it might work with 4349.
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Does fixrecovery.sh also add/enable the OTA updater? Or is there a update.zip for 4349 somewhere?
thanks for all the work,
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Can 3588 enhancement be loaded with gapps for android market?
SoCal2 said:
As a new tab owner where do I find the build number please?
Thank you
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Just go to settings-about device
butchconner said:
msu_sparty.
I ran 3991 for a good while during the time the Wooters needed help.
I tried to install the Enhancement Pack on 3991 and it semi-bricked my
G-Tablet.
I wouldn't try it until someone tests it for sure -- unless you want to
be the tester!!!???
Rev
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Can you point me in the right direction to unbrick this thing? It semi-bricked mine, and I don't know where to start.
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As a new tab owner where do I find the build number please?
Thank you
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Settings about
Thank god I was impatient and installed vegan 5.1.1 before this happened! Was waiting for ota 3588 before root as I was on 3389 this morning. I'm sure you guys won't be long figuring out if there anything worthwhile here.
cbay said:
Does fixrecovery.sh also add/enable the OTA updater? Or is there a update.zip for 4349 somewhere?
thanks for all the work,
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No, it does not. All it does is flashes back 3588 recovery which is the recovery needed to flash between a 1.1-based and 1.2-based ROM.
yay! what we all knew to be the case a month ago is finally confirmed.
SoCal2,
The version number etc. is at Setting/About.
Rev
just lou,
A good start would be to read this thread. If you can do this procedure, it will NVFlash you back to stock version 2638 -- which we call bekit 1105 a lot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950
Once you get to 2638, you can set up wifi and it will fairly quickly bring you an OTA Update notice and you can move up to 3588 -- and you can go where you want
from there.
Rev
Well best I recall mine was running 3588--whatever upgraded when I got it a couple weeks ago.
Sae the upgrade a few minutes ago, and opted to load it.
Now sits at "home", shows current (working) time, that I have linksys, that it is charged ((86%) and that sound is on.
Nothing else works. Oh yes, there is lower right hand icon showing an open padlock.
This came up after upgrade. I've powered off and on a couple of times.
Any recommendations?
how comparable is 2.3.1 and 2.3.3 and how similar would the cwm be? I ask because I have a cheap dopo md-702 tablet that I would like to try working with. It has 2.3.1 and I was wondering how to get cwm to work with the tablet. It has a rockchip rk2918 so any ideas on where to start digging?
jaycush said:
how comparable is 2.3.1 and 2.3.3 and how similar would the cwm be? I ask because I have a cheap dopo md-702 tablet that I would like to try working with. It has 2.3.1 and I was wondering how to get cwm to work with the tablet. It has a rockchip rk2918 so any ideas on where to start digging?
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Most cheap tablets cannot have cwm due to the lack of recovery menu. Cheap tablets are already rooted. Just install superuser and do whatever you want with. But once again. Due to lack of recovery you have to be careful with what you do.
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Most cheap tablets cannot have cwm due to the lack of recovery menu. Cheap tablets are already rooted. Just install superuser and do whatever you want with. But once again. Due to lack of recovery you have to be careful with what you do.
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In a very interesting sort of way the tablet has a recovery mode but it takes multiple steps to get to it. The long and short I used quick boot app to boot to recovery (which looked similar to a download mode) and then had to try different key presses to get into the actual recovery mode. I can run an update.zip from the menu but nothing else. It looks so similar to what the modded cwm is for our phones that I wonder if there was a way to look at the codes and compare. Also note worthy after I used Titanium Backup to unistall the phone (bad idea) I had to hit the reset button to see if I could start it back up, and it booted back to just the basic apps but still had the google play app (this tablet did not come with google play originally). There are just so many little nuances that I'm not sure what is going on with this tablet. I need to have some time to connect it to my PC so I can see if there is a way to look at the tablet through the computer similar to what I used to do with my windows phone.
There is also an upgraded model of the tablet that has 4.0, with a 1.2Ghz instead of 1Ghz processor. Is the OS (android 4.0) a part of the firmware? If I have the firmware from the newer model what are the chances it would work with the older model?
I want to copy this post over to the tablet thread and hopefully get some hits over there.
jaycush said:
In a very interesting sort of way the tablet has a recovery mode but it takes multiple steps to get to it. The long and short I used quick boot app to boot to recovery (which looked similar to a download mode) and then had to try different key presses to get into the actual recovery mode. I can run an update.zip from the menu but nothing else. It looks so similar to what the modded cwm is for our phones that I wonder if there was a way to look at the codes and compare. Also note worthy after I used Titanium Backup to unistall the phone (bad idea) I had to hit the reset button to see if I could start it back up, and it booted back to just the basic apps but still had the google play app (this tablet did not come with google play originally). There are just so many little nuances that I'm not sure what is going on with this tablet. I need to have some time to connect it to my PC so I can see if there is a way to look at the tablet through the computer similar to what I used to do with my windows phone.
There is also an upgraded model of the tablet that has 4.0, with a 1.2Ghz instead of 1Ghz processor. Is the OS (android 4.0) a part of the firmware? If I have the firmware from the newer model what are the chances it would work with the older model?
I want to copy this post over to the tablet thread and hopefully get some hits over there.
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As long as you have a way to get to recovery from boot up you shouldn't have much of a problem. And Android and Windows work differently on many things. But android is more open. *you can do whatever with it* and if I'm not mistaken you can upgrade your firmware to 4.0 through recovery. Some tablets you can upgrade by downloading the firmware on the tablet's site.. Try that if it doesn't have the option to do a system update in the settings.
Right now I'm bricked, used the firmware from the upgraded model but worried that because there a gig of additional memory, but the rest of the hardware specs are identical, so right will not boot. Fuzzy lines, going to try and drain battery then charge and boot into recovery.
Let me clarify, I used the firmware from the manufacturer for the upgraded model. So I thought out would work. I've not given up but not optimistic. If I'm lucky someone can pull the original firmware and I can miraculously get it into download mode again for a reflash, that is if I can't get a factory reset.
UPDATE: I can power on to the first animation, the infamous penguin. Going to see if either computer will notice it tomorrow. If neither will, I'm not sure I can do any thing more.
UPDATE: it will connect but windows doesn't recognize it. I'm thinking I have options but will take time.
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Hello everybody I got brand new Motorola Defy+ and I want to have newest version of android on it. I am not familiar with rooting etc and unsure if this is possible theres instruction in videos description on youtube "How to Install Android Nougat on Motorola DEFY+ (Android 7.1.1/CM14.1)" ( I can not post links) If not I am curious what is the safest and easiest way to root the device and if theres available newer system than KitKat for my device
Moreover I wanted to install roehsoft ram expander as the phone got only 512 MB of RAM but test says it has to have compatible kernel from what I remember. Not sure if I have to install new operating system in the first place and then root the phone or the opposite and what kernel it has to have to work properly. As I said before I am not experienced android user its my first device with this system
Thank you in advance ppl peace!
Amazing, Motorola Defy+ is cool in its segment but can this slim hardware keep up with such a bulky Android version?
It's said in KittyKat threads here phone has a tendency to stutter with KK (as such a demanding OS), and how about Nougat?
Anyway it'd be nice if somebody adjust Nougat to work worth Defy+. Especially it is needed to optimize battery consumption in idle.
And about rooting, you can just run apk called FramaRoot and job is done
Afterwards run SndInitDefy_2.3 and you will have custom recovery installed (CWM), it is just as simple as it!
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5965fe184202f/Framaroot-1.9.3.apk
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5965fe43f2a32/SndInitDefy_2.3.apk
Afterwards, make a nandroid backup and, using already installed custom recovery CWM (which is clumsy, without touch support), you may want to flash TWRP. If so then flash defy_twrp_recovery_2.6.3.0.zip, e.g. from this link:
http://d-h.st/users/tejus.k.v
Although attention: this flashes recovery TWRP to the system partition (probably the phone's recovery partition is to small) overwriting the android system which is already there, so after doing this you must flash some ROM.
It is described in the second post of this KittyKat ROM thread: [ROM] [4.4.2] SlimKat (jordan) [STABLE 4.0] [Weekly 3.85] [Unofficial]
And see Installation Instructions section, good luck! ?
pawwaap said:
And about rooting, you can just run apk called FramaRoot and job is done
Afterwards run SndInitDefy_2.3 and you will have custom recovery installed (CWM), it is just as simple as it!
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5965fe184202f/Framaroot-1.9.3.apk
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5965fe43f2a32/SndInitDefy_2.3.apk
Afterwards, make a nandroid backup and, using already installed custom recovery CWM (which is clumsy, without touch support), you may want to flash TWRP. If so then flash defy_twrp_recovery_2.6.3.0.zip, e.g. from this link:
http://d-h.st/users/tejus.k.v
Although attention: this flashes recovery TWRP to the system partition (probably the phone's recovery partition is to small) overwriting the android system which is already there, so after doing this you must flash some ROM.
It is described in the second post of this KittyKat ROM thread: [ROM] [4.4.2] SlimKat (jordan) [STABLE 4.0] [Weekly 3.85] [Unofficial]
And see Installation Instructions section, good luck!
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Thank you for your help! My phone dont want to turn on anymore. I've done everything carefully up to the following point"Wipe /data, /cache, and /system in TWRP or use defy_safewipe.zip" (after that I wanted to flash this: "Slim-mb526-4.4.2.build.4-UNOFFICIAL-20140407-2344.zip" cos its ROM right?), but and when it asked me to slide back to the right blue arrow to confirm, my phone booted up and then died after motorola logo. Green led lighted up before death. It seems that it wasnt safe thing despite the name. What to do now? Can I recovery it?
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UPDATE: ok its working again :angel:, Ive tried combo "up volume" and "power" buton.
Now Ive got no idea what "Gapps" or "Slimroms addons you want" are, but after mad long startup (with SlimKAT logo on the screen), it seems that this system is working. Its much faster than befo I can see. It's RUNNING! :laugh:
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UPDATE 2: Play Store refuses to open on this new system after I installed it. "Unfortunately, Google Play Store has stopped."
I have just flashed this ROM:
[Kitkat][Nightlies] CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+), it is the most advanced so far as I can see, the freshest release is cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x so half a year old.
If you read instructions on this thread you can see it's installation is somewhat tricky.
It includes rearranging partitions layout and sizes.
If you really want experimenting with flashing Nougat you will probably need the technique to change partitions sizes, and you may edit the values inside the resize.zip according to individual needs (post #5595)
And the half of the links from the first post are empty, however in the middle of the thread there are still working links.
After all it's better to follow this version of installing instructions (post #5584)
Also you can find some files here: http://defy.svolkov.name/quarx2k.ru/
I have done partitions resizing, bootstrap, and managed to flash the first ROM, version: cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip,
however wrongly have done cache & Dalvik reset just after resizing (and before ROM flashing): the result is ROM is working well but cannot boot into recovery anyway (and can't recreate recovery anyway either, even doing:
Code:
cat /sdcard/bootstrap_ext3.img > /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
as suggested in the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57221743&postcount=6510)
And I'd like have the freshest version, the only way is to flash stock and do everything from a start again. Please if you can, how to flash stock? It is said elsewhere the most critical in it is choosing the right version of sbf file, choosing inappropriate would brick a phone irreversibly! And how to know which one to choose, tutorials here are so convoluted and discussions so chaotic! Afraid of touching anything though!
As far as the ROM itself, although it is the first only cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip it works amazingly well!
It boots quickly, is fast, RAM friendly, nice!
(It has little overclocked processor and this makes using the phone so comfortably, just little overclocked so hardware friendly too!)
pawwaap said:
I have just flashed this ROM:
[Kitkat][Nightlies] CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+), it is the most advanced so far as I can see, the freshest release is cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x so half a year old.
If you read instructions on this thread you can see it's installation is somewhat tricky.
It includes rearranging partitions layout and sizes.
If you really want experimenting with flashing Nougat you will probably need the technique to change partitions sizes, and you may edit the values inside the resize.zip according to individual needs (post #5595)
And the half of the links from the first post are empty, however in the middle of the thread there are still working links.
After all it's better to follow this version of installing instructions (post #5584)
Also you can find some files here: http://defy.svolkov.name/quarx2k.ru/
I have done partitions resizing, bootstrap, and managed to flash the first ROM, version: cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip,
however wrongly have done cache & Dalvik reset just after resizing (and before ROM flashing): the result is ROM is working well but cannot boot into recovery anyway (and can't recreate recovery anyway either, even doing:
Code:
cat /sdcard/bootstrap_ext3.img > /dev/block/mmcblk1p1
as suggested in the post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57221743&postcount=6510)
And I'd like have the freshest version, the only way is to flash stock and do everything from a start again. Please if you can, how to flash stock? It is said elsewhere the most critical in it is choosing the right version of sbf file, choosing inappropriate would brick a phone irreversibly! And how to know which one to choose, tutorials here are so convoluted and discussions so chaotic! Afraid of touching anything though!
As far as the ROM itself, although it is the first only cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip it works amazingly well!
It boots quickly, is fast, RAM friendly, nice!
(It has little overclocked processor and this makes using the phone so comfortably, just little overclocked so hardware friendly too!)
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Again I want to thank you for your response. On the verion of system Ive installed I cant use my camera for video recording because of lack of some codecs it says and I cant watch YouTube. 'Google Services' crashes. The only way I could download some decent apps was from 'Aptoide'. 'Roehsoft Ram Expander' needed Google services so it wont open (ive download 'Kernel audiutor' however I dont have class 10 card yet so I dont know if its good at all). I wont be fighting with this anymore, I am going to try mentioned 'CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+)'.
So I have to go "Recovery" in this secret startup menu before I install it? I mean do I have downgrade my system before instalation of new one? Or just follow the instructions straight from the beggining I dunno. But I dont want any complicated things you know..
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The links are dead, but Ive found them files:
defy.7z
Now, you metrioned two rom's but which one is less tricky, cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip or cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip?
You know, I have installed cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip at last, after exciting night of attempting flashing any stock ROM and then following the procedure exactly from the first post of "[Kitkat][Nightlies] CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+)"
and the updated files: new_bootstrap and resize, found here
It costed many efforts of blindly "trial and error" flashing one by one stock ROMs, until found the one which turned on my phone with anything else than black screen!
And everything it was to have possibility of flashing cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip instead of already running cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip.
And you know what? The version cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip seemed running better than the freshest one!
It was, what is most important: faster!!!
And anything else seems the same (so far)!!!
Is the any rationale behind hustle and bustle of flashing the "NIGHTLY" and exactly for what?
Question of stability which user gets know only after some time?
Anyway the speed is everything in such thin hardware like Defy+ and i can't resist an impression cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip is way faster!
And what's more, you probably can flash cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip without the whole convoluted procedure of resizing partitions! (needs checking, if you want simplest way you had better resize partitions )
In fact this version of ROM is the same as:
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8. Install cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip (It's latest cm11 from 23sep with changes for new table)
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but cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip was to try if the only resizing procedure itself worked at all (and for users to send feedback).
In fact resizing partitions is needed only for the next ROM versions (of which the freshest is cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip):
"the nightlies AFTER 01 Oct are for the new partition table".
(Aha, cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip probably is odexed, while cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip is deodexed, it needs confirmation)
And if you needed flashing stock and had doubts how, then write, I'd gladly help and share the knowledge painstakingly acquired this night.
It is amazingly simple and safe, there're few simple basic things but if you needed found them by yourself in this forum you would probably get panicked
It is about how simple things people can mess up! ?
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And if you needed flashing stock and had doubts how, then write, I'd gladly help and share the knowledge painstakingly acquired this night.
It is amazingly simple and safe, there're few simple basic things but if you needed found them by yourself in this forum you would probably get panicked
It is about how simple things people can mess up!
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Thank you my friend. Ive installed cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip. Its fine because my camera can now record videos but still it cant play it. :crying:
YouTube videos also wont load, however internet is fast and so on.
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Google Play still dont work, same error. I kinda came to terms with it as I have Aptoide, but I want to use YouTube..
And what do you use to watch YouTube videos? Advise third party apps, e.g. SnapTube etc, instead of YouTube application. In fact forgot installing gapps at all and it makes me happy You only now made me think about it In such thin hardware it is better to have microG (μG) (for apps refusing running without Google Services) and/or Yalp Store for Play Market access
If you insist using bulky Google then try opengapps.org
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And what do you use to watch YouTube videos? Advise third party apps, e.g. SnapTube etc, instead of YouTube application. In fact forgot installing gapps at all and it makes me happy You only now made me think about it In such thin hardware it is better to have microG (μGl) (for apps refusing running without Google Services) and/or Yalp for Play Market access
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I guess gapps are apps for new software? Ok so now that I have downloaded SnapTube I still cant play any video. Its loading but wont start just like videos on my phone storage or just recorded
Hah I think its a bit off topic what we made here, I should change name of the tread
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Ive read on some native forum that after codecs instalation he problem disappeared I try to find some
I have just recorded a video of my dog, sent it via email (AquaMail), received it in a mail to myself and played it with system player, pretty well!
It is possible freshest NIGHTLY ROM has issues solved, how to check it (without Google)?
And can you play videos self recorded with this phone?
OpenGapps.org provides you ability to choose what package, how complex (I always choose "pico"), and for what platform (yes, KittyKat is still supported) you download.
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I have just recorded a video of my dog, sent it via email (AquaMail), received it in a mail to myself and played it with system player, pretty well!
It is possible freshest NIGHTLY ROM has issues solved, how to check it (without Google)?
And can you play videos self recorded with this phone?
OpenGapps.org provides you ability to choose what package, how complex (I always choose "pico"), and for what platform (yes, KittyKat is still supported) you download.
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OK its seems that Google Play cant be downloaded straight to the phone (.apk) after installing new system but gapps worked for me and I got my Google Play working again now. Still no luck with videos on YouTube but vlc is working on files Ive recorded.
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Ive installed cm11.0-defy-newlife.zip.
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And how have you installed this ROM: with partitions resizing first or on stock layout?
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Hah I think its a bit off topic what we made here, I should change name of the tread
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Yes, you can change for e.g.
"Installing the best ROM nowadays for Defy (+)"
And it is said Defy and Defy+ is the same hardware, just plus is rebranded and has overclocked processor (to 1GHz) and bit bigger battery, see section "Facts" in [GUIDE] All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide
or "Yielding Defy competitive nowadays"
It is still phone unique on the market, searched something for summer, a little waterresistant phone which could suit to any even tiniest pocket. And found Defy is just the only one in this kind, nowadays producers offer big smartphones and if you want something little & watertight then you can buy modern smartwatch - thanx, prefer Defy: bigger battery, faster, and of incomparable comfort of usage, for peanuts! [emoji106]
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And how have you installed this ROM: with partitions resizing first or on stock layout?
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Ive just followed the steps here did exactly what is written step by step from the beggining.
I think now the only is playing videos. Videos I have recorded (on the phone) can be played back only in vlc but still with lags. Same for vids online, however if I choose mobile version of YouTube and try to play stream in vlc it worx but very poor quality. I tried many things without any success, for eg. Flash Fox but the problem is rather in system files than settings and apps itself.
In my custom system I could playback any video.
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Ive just followed the steps here did exactly what is written step by step from the beggining.
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It's irrelevant for video playing but I think it is better to follow the first post from the thread and use the files:
new_bootstrap & resize (instead of PrepareZip_1 & PrepareZip_2),
new_bootstrap has different size than PrepareZip_1 and is newer, something has been changed.
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I think now the only is playing videos. Videos I have recorded (on the phone) can be played back only in vlc but still with lags.
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You see, I play with phone system player any videos recorded with phone system camera application without any problem.
Is the newest NIGHTLY ROM better in the sense the issues have been ultimately repaired?
If so, make android backup of data partition, reboot into TWRP, wipe cache, Dalvik, data (factory reset), and flash the newest NIGHTLY!
(Yet if you enjoy playing with comparing the two system you may wait )
And maybe before flashing next ROM do these newer new_bootstrap.zip & resize.zip flashing (just in case: of avoiding extra issues).
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Ive just In my custom system I could playback any video.
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And in Defy?
pawwaap said:
It's irrelevant for video playing but I think it is better to follow the first post from the thread and use the files:
new_bootstrap & resize (instead of PrepareZip_1 & PrepareZip_2),
new_bootstrap has different size than PrepareZip_1 and is newer, something has been changed.
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OK so I will try now cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x with new_bootstrap and resize. Do I have to just install them like before right? It will replace system I have now?
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wipe cache, Dalvik, data (factory reset), and flash the newest NIGHTLY!
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Ok I get it
If so, make nandroid backup of data partition, reboot into TWRP, wipe cache, Dalvik, data (factory reset), and only then (but immediately without rebooting after wiping) do these newer new_bootstrap.zip & resize.zip flashing!
The files you can find here
After flashing NIGHTLY successfully, boot it, follow the initial wizard etc, check if it works ok, and if so reboot into TWRP again to restore your data nandroid backup.
If you don't care about previous data give in with it and configure your Android anew
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And in Defy?
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Dont get me wrong, I meant my system version android which came to me with my phone purchase (android 2.3.6 or something dont remember). And its definitely not prob with camera but system video player, plus YouTube dont play too so definitely some playback issue..
Omg omg E:Error executing updater binary in zip '/sdcaed/kitkat 4.4/cm-11-20161124-NIGHTLY-mb52x.zip' 'FAILED' what todo? Reboot and try again?
Maybe file was corrupted
Hello!
New Axon 7 owner here, since Thursday! I had a couple of questions relating to this phone and thought it would be best to ask here since i'm already familiar with XDA from previous devices. First of all, I noticed that sometimes text on the screen will occasionally appear like it is vibrating, juddering or blurring for a couple of milliseconds whilst scrolling, as the page is moving either upwards or downwards. It seems to happen at random and it does not appear to have a connection with the colours or content being displayed.
I read on one website that it might be due to the pixels in the AMOLED display turning off momentarily when black is displayed on the screen, however, it cannot be the cause of the problem in this instance because it happens when there is no black displayed, for example in Boost for Reddit which uses a colour scheme of white text on a navy-blue background. I found that the issue seems to happen more often when flicking/flinging the page to scroll, rather than keeping my finger on the screen whilst scrolling through the content.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing and can comment on whether it is normal behaviour for this device? I have not owned an AMOLED device before, and so don't know whether this is typical for devices with this type of display. It could of course be a software issue; but it strikes me as more of a hardware-related matter. I would assume it is probably completely normal, since the phone is otherwise perfect and was fully tested prior to being shipped. :fingers-crossed:
Also...
The phone came from a Chinese reseller on AliExpress who exported the phone to myself in the United Kingdom. The device is a A2017 with the China Mobile branding on the back of it, but the phone has in their words been 'converted' to A2017G spec and is running the A2017GV1.2.0B01 ROM. (MiFavor UI v4.2 based on Nougat 7.1.1) The baseband version is TH.2.0.c1.9-00104-M8996FAAAANAZM. I have checked for OTA updates but it is showing the software as fully updated. When the phone is plugged into my Windows 10 PC it shows as 'ZTE A2017G'.
I am wondering whether this 'conversation' includes anything other than switching to the A2017G Global ROM that would need to be kept in mind when modifying software on the device. Like, would it be safe to follow the usual tutorials for flashing software for the A2017, or should I be looking at tutorials for the A2017G instead?
I would like to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, flash the latest MiFavor UI v5.0 ROM and root it with Magisk, but i'm not sure where to start with this since none of the tutorials seem to cover phones which have been 'converted' to the A2017G firmware. I saw a warning in the Axon7Toolkit thread, saying that some A2017G models may be permanently bricked when flashing packages through EDL mode due to slightly different partition tables. I don't know whether this is something I should be worried about with my A2017 since it has been converted to A2017G status.
If anyone kindly offer some further insight on either of these points, it would be most appreciated. Thanks a lot.
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Hello!
New Axon 7 owner here, since Thursday! I had a couple of questions relating to this phone and thought it would be best to ask here since i'm already familiar with XDA from previous devices. First of all, I noticed that sometimes text on the screen will occasionally appear like it is 'vibrating' or juddering for a matter of milliseconds whilst scrolling, as the page is moving either upwards or downwards. It seems to happen at random and it does not appear to have a connection with the colours or content being displayed.
I read on one website that it might be due to the pixels in the AMOLED display turning off momentarily when black is displayed on the screen, however, it cannot be the cause of the problem in this instance because it happens when there is no black displayed, for example in Boost for Reddit which uses a colour scheme of white text on a navy-blue background. I found that the issue seems to happen more often when flicking/flinging the page to scroll, rather than keeping my finger on the screen whilst scrolling through the content.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing and can comment on whether it is normal behaviour for this device? I have not owned an AMOLED device before, and so don't know whether this is typical for devices with this type of display. It could of course be a software issue; but it strikes me as more of a hardware-related matter. I would assume it is probably completely normal, since the phone is otherwise perfect and was fully tested prior to being shipped. :fingers-crossed:
Also...
The phone came from a Chinese reseller on AliExpress who exported the phone to myself in the United Kingdom. The device is a A2017 with the China Mobile branding on the back of it, but the phone has in their words been 'converted' to A2017G spec and is running the A2017GV1.2.0B01 ROM. (MiFavor UI v4.2 based on Nougat 7.1.1) The baseband version is TH.2.0.c1.9-00104-M8996FAAAANAZM. I have checked for OTA updates but it is showing the software as fully updated. When the phone is plugged into my Windows 10 PC it shows as 'ZTE A2017G'.
I am wondering whether this 'conversation' includes anything other than switching to the A2017G Global ROM that would need to be kept in mind when modifying software on the device. Like, would it be safe to follow the usual tutorials for flashing software for the A2017, or should I be looking at tutorials for the A2017G instead?
I would like to unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, flash the latest MiFavor UI v5.0 ROM and root it with Magisk, but i'm not sure where to start with this since none of the tutorials seem to cover phones which have been 'converted' to the A2017G firmware. I saw a warning in the Axon7Toolkit thread, saying that some A2017G models may be permanently bricked when flashing packages through EDL mode due to slightly different partition tables. I don't know whether this is something I should be worried about with my A2017 since it has been converted to A2017G status.
If anyone kindly offer some further insight on either of these points, it would be most appreciated. Thanks a lot.
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Look, first of all, I never had that problem, but it would be best if you recorded the phone with 60fps or something so that we can see what you mean. I don't really get the thing you're talking about
You should install A2017 firmware on your phone instead of using the G firmware, because:
-You won't get OTAs
-MiFavor 5.0 is pretty damn awesome
-Maybe the screen stuff will get fixed
First of all, go to Display and try to disable "Adaptive Display" which is a good idea but really badly implemented for some reason. If the display stuff gets fixed, you may as well not RMA it, and you can install the Chinese stuff on it. You're gonna lose all your data so back it up.
First download an official ZTE update zip. I think I've sent one to someone not much ago, I'll try to find it and put the link here
Then check if there's another zip inside. If there is, get that zip out (should be called update.zip) and throw it in the root of the internal storage
Go to Settings - Updates, and see if it detects it. if it does, install it.
After having the Chinese firmware, delete the zip from your phone, and go to Updates, and see if you get any OTAs. if you get one, after it gets installed go there again, because sometimes they are just incremental (you might have to do this 2-3 times depending on which version you install via zip)
This way you don't have to unlock the phone's BL. After having MiFavor 5.0 set up, download the Google apps if you want (I recommend Google Installer apk by Xiaomi, google it) and you're good to go.
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Look, first of all, I never had that problem, but it would be best if you recorded the phone with 60fps or something so that we can see what you mean. I don't really get the thing you're talking about
You should install A2017 firmware on your phone instead of using the G firmware, because:
-You won't get OTAs
-MiFavor 5.0 is pretty damn awesome
-Maybe the screen stuff will get fixed
First of all, go to Display and try to disable "Adaptive Display" which is a good idea but really badly implemented for some reason. If the display stuff gets fixed, you may as well not RMA it, and you can install the Chinese stuff on it. You're gonna lose all your data so back it up.
First download an official ZTE update zip. I think I've sent one to someone not much ago, I'll try to find it and put the link here
Then check if there's another zip inside. If there is, get that zip out (should be called update.zip) and throw it in the root of the internal storage
Go to Settings - Updates, and see if it detects it. if it does, install it.
After having the Chinese firmware, delete the zip from your phone, and go to Updates, and see if you get any OTAs. if you get one, after it gets installed go there again, because sometimes they are just incremental (you might have to do this 2-3 times depending on which version you install via zip)
This way you don't have to unlock the phone's BL. After having MiFavor 5.0 set up, download the Google apps if you want (I recommend Google Installer apk by Xiaomi, google it) and you're good to go.
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions. I will try to record the screen problem over the next few days just so everyone can see for themselves what is happening; it might be easier than trying to explain it. In regards to the update to MiFavor v5.0, i'm just a bit nervous about flashing stuff through the stock recovery considering the phone has already been messed about with. It would actually feel safer to flash the entire phone in MiFlash on my computer, rather than just trying to install over the A2017G firmware and hoping for the best. I wouldn't mind having to unlock the bootloader because it's what i'd like to do anyway, since i'm interested in rooting to get things like AdAway which I have used on all of my previous devices. But I will have a search around for that official update ZIP anyway and see whether i'm able to find it.
Just got what you said and tried it. You're right it blurs when I fling to scroll. But this happens on LCD screens too.
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Just got what you said and tried it. You're right it blurs when I fling to scroll. But this happens on LCD screens too.
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Well, if someone else is also having the same issue then that would make me feel a bit better about it, assuming we are talking about the same thing of course. I will try to record a video of the problem over the next couple of days, as it would be clearer than trying to explain it in writing. I should note that the blurring effect only lasts for a few milliseconds (Less than the duration of the fling!) and it only happens once in every 20 swipes or so. But when it does happen it can be quite distracting. I have owned 4 IPS devices before this (OnePlus One, LG G4) and none of them have had scrolling behaviour like the Axon 7.
I have also found the scrolling on this phone in general to be a lot less smoother than my ZUK Z2 which uses a 5.0" IPS screen and SD820. It seems the momentum each swipe has in propelling the page vertically is a lot less effective, and thus it takes more swipes to scroll down to the end of a page. Maybe this is because the screen is 5.5" opposed to 5.0" and so, it requires longer 'flings' or swipes on the screen to make up for the additional space. But this theory seems like a long shot and it still does not explain why the scrolling in general feels so laggy and stuttery.
The thing I saw on my two phones including Axon7 happens with every fling or swipe. Maybe I didn't quite understand you . Try to record and send the video so I get what you mean.
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Well, if someone else is also having the same issue then that would make me feel a bit better about it, assuming we are talking about the same thing of course. I will try to record a video of the problem over the next couple of days, as it would be clearer than trying to explain it in writing. I should note that the blurring effect only lasts for a few milliseconds (Less than the duration of the fling!) and it only happens once in every 20 swipes or so. But when it does happen it can be quite distracting. I have owned 4 IPS devices before this (OnePlus One, LG G4) and none of them have had scrolling behaviour like the Axon 7.
I have also found the scrolling on this phone in general to be a lot less smoother than my ZUK Z2 which uses a 5.0" IPS screen and SD820. It seems the momentum each swipe has in propelling the page vertically is a lot less effective, and thus it takes more swipes to scroll down to the end of a page. Maybe this is because the screen is 5.5" opposed to 5.0" and so, it requires longer 'flings' or swipes on the screen to make up for the additional space. But this theory seems like a long shot and it still does not explain why the scrolling in general feels so laggy and stuttery.
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Did you root your phone? Do you intend to? If you do, you can use the conservative governor and fix the lag entirely. Many people believe that the conservative governor is laggier than interactive, but on the SD820 that's not the case. I've tried on SD6xx and 4xx devices (the Moto G2 and G4+ namely) and this is clearly not like this on those phones.
As for the fling thing, well I'd like to see a video, since I never noticed such a thing. I'm on MiFavor 5.0 so maybe something has been changed, because this is Chinese firmware (on the G).
And I believe that you have to fling more because ZTE may have messed up with some files, as they always did... probably not because of the bigger screen
But really, change your firmware to stock A2017. It's completely possible to have Google apps on it, but retailers install the G firmware on tbe Chinese just because they sell it to the global market
Here you go: Download this, and after you have the zip, open it with a zip manager such as winrar or 7zip. If you see a PDF and an update.zip inside, pull the update.zip out and put it in the root of the internal storage, then install it via Settings - Updates. If not just put the zip you downloaded on the root if the internal storage. but i think that zip actually has the other one inside.
https://archive.org/download/A2017B1320161104135351692/A2017-B13-20161104135351692.zip
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Did you root your phone? Do you intend to? If you do, you can use the conservative governor and fix the lag entirely. Many people believe that the conservative governor is laggier than interactive, but on the SD820 that's not the case. I've tried on SD6xx and 4xx devices (the Moto G2 and G4+ namely) and this is clearly not like this on those phones.
As for the fling thing, well I'd like to see a video, since I never noticed such a thing. I'm on MiFavor 5.0 so maybe something has been changed, because this is Chinese firmware (on the G).
And I believe that you have to fling more because ZTE may have messed up with some files, as they always did... probably not because of the bigger screen
But really, change your firmware to stock A2017. It's completely possible to have Google apps on it, but retailers install the G firmware on tbe Chinese just because they sell it to the global market
Here you go: Download this, and after you have the zip, open it with a zip manager such as winrar or 7zip. If you see a PDF and an update.zip inside, pull the update.zip out and put it in the root of the internal storage, then install it via Settings - Updates. If not just put the zip you downloaded on the root if the internal storage. but i think that zip actually has the other one inside.
https://archive.org/download/A2017B1320161104135351692/A2017-B13-20161104135351692.zip
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Thanks for the response, once again! I tried to record the scrolling problem with my DSLR camera but it was a lot harder than you'd think to capture the blurring on there. I will have to review the footage on my laptop and see whether there's anything which clearly shows the effect. But having spoke to several people about this, it is probably normal behaviour for the AMOLED panel. I think the best option for me would be like you said, to flash the stock China firmware and see whether it makes a difference to my issues with scrolling lag. If it doesn't then there's no harm done, as the phone will be much better with the China firmware anyway.
I have one question, what would be the difference between the update package you posted and the one from the official ZTE website? I noticed there is one that says '7.1 Back 6.0 ZTE_A2017V1.1.0B11 Dedicated Upgrade Package (All Network Versions)' which would presumably allow me to revert back to A2017 Marshmallow firmware with OTA updates enabled, as you explained previously. Maybe it would be better to use this one since it is dated 20/03/2017 rather than 04/11/2016. And is it definitely 100% safe to use these update packages to switch from A2017G Global firmware to A2017 China firmware?
http://www.ztedevice.com.cn/support/detail?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78
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Thanks for the response, once again! I tried to record the scrolling problem with my DSLR camera but it was a lot harder than you'd think to capture the blurring on there. I will have to review the footage on my laptop and see whether there's anything which clearly shows the effect. But having spoke to several people about this, it is probably normal behaviour for the AMOLED panel. I think the best option for me would be like you said, to flash the stock China firmware and see whether it makes a difference to my issues with scrolling lag. If it doesn't then there's no harm done, as the phone will be much better with the China firmware anyway.
I have one question, what would be the difference between the update package you posted and the one from the official ZTE website? I noticed there is one that says '7.1 Back 6.0 ZTE_A2017V1.1.0B11 Dedicated Upgrade Package (All Network Versions)' which would presumably allow me to revert back to A2017 Marshmallow firmware with OTA updates enabled, as you explained previously. Maybe it would be better to use this one since it is dated 20/03/2017 rather than 04/11/2016. And is it definitely 100% safe to use these update packages to switch from A2017G Global firmware to A2017 China firmware?
http://www.ztedevice.com.cn/support/detail?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78
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Well, the package that you found will do too. Most people here expect everything to be done for them, and since I had already found a zip, I thought it would be best to share it at least.
You should actually follow the guide that I just posted - the reason why is that you have to unzip the file and put it in the root of the SD card. It's written so that everyone can understand, so sorry if it's too dense. but if you downloaded the package on the PC (and your phone is somehow able to connect via MTP [or FTP, i have to use this] to your PC) it's just unzip and send.
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Well, the package that you found will do too. Most people here expect everything to be done for them, and since I had already found a zip, I thought it would be best to share it at least.
You should actually follow the guide that I just posted - the reason why is that you have to unzip the file and put it in the root of the SD card. It's written so that everyone can understand, so sorry if it's too dense
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Haha, no problem at all. I will try it and see what happens, but unfortunately the download might take a few hours due to my slow internet connection. Thanks for all your assistance so far, it is of course most appreciated. BTW, I just booted into the bootloader to see what it looked like and everything is displayed in Chinese; which presumably is normal considering the phone is the Chinese A2017 model. At the top of the screen it shows ZTE/P996A03_N/ailsa_ii and another line which says 7.1.1/NMF26V/20170425.120141. What do these numbers mean? I know 7.1.1 is the version of Android and 'ailsa_ii' is of course the codename of the device, like 'bacon' is for the OnePlus One.
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Haha, no problem at all. I will try it and see what happens, but unfortunately the download might take a few hours due to my slow internet connection. Thanks for all your assistance so far, it is of course most appreciated. BTW, I just booted into the bootloader to see what it looked like and everything is displayed in Chinese; which presumably is normal considering the phone is the Chinese A2017 model. At the top of the screen it shows ZTE/P996A03_N/ailsa_ii and another line which says 7.1.1/NMF26V/20170425.120141. What do these numbers mean? I know 7.1.1 is the version of Android and 'ailsa_ii' is of course the codename of the device, like 'bacon' is for the OnePlus One.
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You sure you booted to the bootloader? Most phones have it blocked and you can only access recovery, EDL and FTM.
Whatever, yeah, the Chinese recovery is in Chinese. G's and U's have it in English. But still, the option that you may need to use is the one that says 'sd' between some Chinese ideograms (install update from sd card). Ofc you'd need an SD card for that, that's why using the system option to update is preferred.
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You sure you booted to the bootloader? Most phones have it blocked and you can only access recovery, EDL and FTM.
Whatever, yeah, the Chinese recovery is in Chinese. G's and U's have it in English. But still, the option that you may need to use is the one that says 'sd' between some Chinese ideograms (install update from sd card). Ofc you'd need an SD card for that, that's why using the system option to update is preferred.
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Ah, that's interesting! I'm certain it was the bootloader since I followed a tutorial on YouTube to access it. Basically, all I had to do was to switch the phone off and then hold both the volume-up and power buttons until the ZTE logo appeared, then release the power button and keep holding the volume button until the bootloader came up! Anyhow, i'll definitely follow your advice and use the update method via the settings menu in MiFavor. But first I will have to wait another hour for the update package to finish downloading, as my internet speed is only 3.3Mbps!
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Haha, no problem at all. I will try it and see what happens, but unfortunately the download might take a few hours due to my slow internet connection. Thanks for all your assistance so far, it is of course most appreciated. BTW, I just booted into the bootloader to see what it looked like and everything is displayed in Chinese; which presumably is normal considering the phone is the Chinese A2017 model. At the top of the screen it shows ZTE/P996A03_N/ailsa_ii and another line which says 7.1.1/NMF26V/20170425.120141. What do these numbers mean? I know 7.1.1 is the version of Android and 'ailsa_ii' is of course the codename of the device, like 'bacon' is for the OnePlus One.
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My phone is A2017 too. This screenshot might help you understand those numbers.
^^^Ah, that's cool. So P996A03_N is basically just further identification for the device to indicate it is the Chinese A2017 version.
At the moment i'm having problems with the ZIP for rolling back to Marshmallow. It came packaged in an archive called 20170320111600705.zip which I extracted using WinRAR on my laptop. I copied the update.zip file to the root of my internal storage and to the root of the SD card, but neither are recognised when entering the 'System Update' screen. Is it possible that the reseller on AliExpress blocked the ability to update the ROM? I don't know whether to try running the update directly from the bootloader instead.
On the AliExpress listing for the phone is has a warning which says 'Please do not try to flash the phone by yourself. Otherwise your phone will be blocked and lose the network'. I assume this is just to discourage people from flashing custom ROMs to their devices rather than an actual physical limitation.
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^^^Ah, that's cool. So P996A03_N is basically just further identification for the device to indicate it is the Chinese A2017 version.
At the moment i'm having problems with the ZIP for rolling back to Marshmallow. It came packaged in an archive called 20170320111600705.zip which I extracted using WinRAR on my laptop. I copied the update.zip file to the root of my internal storage and to the root of the SD card, but neither are recognised when entering the 'System Update' screen. Is it possible that the reseller on AliExpress blocked the ability to update the ROM? I don't know whether to try running the update directly from the bootloader instead.
On the AliExpress listing for the phone is has a warning which says 'Please do not try to flash the phone by yourself. Otherwise your phone will be blocked and lose the network'. I assume this is just to discourage people from flashing custom ROMs to their devices rather than an actual physical limitation.
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Okay, then you'll have to use the recovery. Put the zip on the SD card (I guess you already have it there), turn it off and hold power + vol up. Select the option that says sd and select the zip.
I guess it doesn't work because it detected that the zip was for an A2017 and it thinks it's a G
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Okay, then you'll have to use the recovery. Put the zip on the SD card (I guess you already have it there), turn it off and hold power + vol up. Select the option that says sd and select the zip.
I guess it doesn't work because it detected that the zip was for an A2017 and it thinks it's a G
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Ah. Good thinking about the reason it wasn't working! Although, I tried that and underneath where it says Supported API: 3, it shows a message which says 'Sorry, you can't sdcard upgrade'.
EDIT: Oh, wait a second. I remember reading something which said you should enable OEM unlocking before trying to flash the ZIP. Maybe that would work!
EDIT 2: Well, that seems to have worked. I was so scared! But the ZIP flashed successfully and it has rebooted into A2017V1.0.0B13 MiFavor UI v4.0 (Android 6.0.1) I noticed the bootloader screen is now slightly different as it now shows the Chinese symbol next to the ZTE text. It is now showing an OTA update to V1.0.0B15, so i'll start by doing that and work through all the other OTA's until I reach the latest version!
Check the edit to my previous post. I managed to get the phone onto A2017V1.0.0B13 and then OTA updated to A2017V1.0.0B15, but unfortunately there are no further OTA updates available from this point. So with this in mind, the next step would probably be to download the A2017V1.1.0B17 archive from the same source and flash that using the same method, via the bootloader? Then hopefully that should bump me back up to Nougat and allow me to OTA to the latest version of MiFavor. (v5.0)
http://www.ztedevice.com.cn/support/detail?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78
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Check the edit to my previous post. I managed to get the phone onto A2017V1.0.0B13 and then OTA updated to A2017V1.0.0B15, but unfortunately there are no further OTA updates available from this point. So with this in mind, the next step would probably be to download the A2017V1.1.0B17 archive from the same source and flash that using the same method, via the bootloader? Then hopefully that should bump me back up to Nougat and allow me to OTA to the latest version of MiFavor. (v5.0)
http://www.ztedevice.com.cn/support/detail?id=B4C0ACE418834F588FED0C72D6046C78
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Nah, I think you already can use the inbuilt update function. Now that you are on A2017 firmware it should find the zip easily.
The 'bootloader mode' you are referring to is actually the recovery. The bootloader mode is the one on the picture. You can access to it by using adb, and issuing 'adb reboot bootloader', but you might not have it (in which case the phone will just boot to system)
To unlock the bootloader you need to get fastboot on the phone AFAIK, so that's what the axon7toolkit does, it flashes stuff through MiFlash to get fastboot operational. Google it, it's pretty good; if you ever want to unlock, I think it's the way to go.
Just to get everything clear.
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Nah, I think you already can use the inbuilt update function. Now that you are on A2017 firmware it should find the zip easily.
The 'bootloader mode' you are referring to is actually the recovery. The bootloader mode is the one on the picture. You can access to it by using adb, and issuing 'adb reboot bootloader', but you might not have it (in which case the phone will just boot to system)
To unlock the bootloader you need to get fastboot on the phone AFAIK, so that's what the axon7toolkit does, it flashes stuff through MiFlash to get fastboot operational. Google it, it's pretty good; if you ever want to unlock, I think it's the way to go.
Just to get everything clear.
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Whoops! I have no idea why I kept referring to it as the bootloader, maybe because i've become so used to using TWRP on my ZUK Z2 for almost a year and ended up forgetting what a manufacturers stock recovery looked like! That was a very silly mistake. :laugh:
I haven't been able to get an update to Nougat to appear via OTA in the 'System Update' menu, so instead I will download the update package from the ZTE website and see whether that works. I believe once I have updated to V1.1.0B17 via ZIP it should allow me to OTA to the latest version of MiFavor. Thanks for the tips regarding Axon7Toolkit, I already had it installed on my laptop but didn't know about possibly having to enable the bootloader with MiFlash. That is very interesting!
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Whoops! I have no idea why I kept referring to it as the bootloader, maybe because i've become so used to using TWRP on my ZUK Z2 for almost a year and ended up forgetting what a manufacturers stock recovery looked like! That was a very silly mistake. :laugh:
I haven't been able to get an update to Nougat to appear via OTA in the 'System Update' menu, so instead I will download the update package from the ZTE website and see whether that works. I believe once I have updated to V1.1.0B17 via ZIP it should allow me to OTA to the latest version of MiFavor. Thanks for the tips regarding Axon7Toolkit, I already had it installed on my laptop but didn't know about possibly having to enable the bootloader with MiFlash. That is very interesting!
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Literally you have to get B17 update through OTA when you're on B15. I did, but the reasons you're not is that you or your reseller have converted it to G model. My friend who also had a Chinese Axon 7 and converted it to G had this problem too. And I don't know what to do about it.
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And I also think that you had to flash B13 upgrade package(second downloadable zip on ZTE website) because B11 was the same B13 but the rollback version meaning for somebody who is already on Nougat and wants to go back to Marshmallow.