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[Q] Best ROM/Kernel combo for Batteryz

I see that there are a multitude of threads on this forum about best ROM/Kernel combos, but I am looking at it from the standpoint of which gives the best battery life. Performance is not an issue, all I am trying to do is get excellent battery life. I would like to keep SenseUI if possible, and an undervolted Kernel is a must. I have seen some information on Ava-Froyo V9 and was wondering if anyone has tried it and do they like it? Any information would be much appreciated.

I loved Baked Snack 1.7, and at one pointing got 21 hours of battery life, I am using myn's Rom now andking it so far, both use sense
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thomasskull666 said:
I see that there are a multitude of threads on this forum about best ROM/Kernel combos, but I am looking at it from the standpoint of which gives the best battery life. Performance is not an issue, all I am trying to do is get excellent battery life. I would like to keep SenseUI if possible, and an undervolted Kernel is a must. I have seen some information on Ava-Froyo V9 and was wondering if anyone has tried it and do they like it? Any information would be much appreciated.
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Go to the kernel testing thread. In there you'll find which is most efficient, the idle energy draw is probably the most important stat. FWIW, CM w/ Snap 9.5 has the lowest energy draw and so probably the best battery life -- it's what I use.

Award Tour said:
Go to the kernel testing thread. In there you'll find which is most efficient, the idle energy draw is probably the most important stat. FWIW, CM w/ Snap 9.5 has the lowest energy draw and so probably the best battery life -- it's what I use.
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if you like sense,
ROM - evio 1.4 or baked snack 1.8
kernel - kings #6 bfs or baked snack #6 (reads #2 in software info)

+ 2 to looking at the kernel comparison site someone put up.
To me it is completely biased though because what works great for one person and their EVO does NOT mean it will work as great for YOU. I would first find a ROM that you like and then experiment with trying each different kernel. Remember to wipe the caches before you switch kernels and give them a few days to balance out and see what they are like.
Personally I get the best battery life with CM 6.0 Final + Kings CFS.
Then there is the whole CFS vs BFS debate, again TRY IT FOR YOURSELF. My phone eats battery like crazy and it will drain in a few hours, with moderate use, and if I switch to CFS I get about 40% more battery life.
So what I'm trying to tell you is that take everyone's recommendations with a grain of salt and try every kernel and BFS/CFS and see what works best for you!
Good luck man

I'm getting ~36 hours off Fresh 3.2. I tried going to 3.3 and tried Myn's but neither came close. Not sure what the difference is, but I'm good with it.

Thanks for the replies guys, it's been a big help!

Battery Life Testing - Kernel + Rom Combo's

Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.

I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
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Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!

i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!

I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.

Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I'm interested too.

Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
bratfink said:
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.

I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?

gogol said:
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.

I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!

Fuse8499 said:
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.

bratfink said:
Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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Uploaded to OP
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!

More soon
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.

Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!

bratfink said:
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
JD

bratfink said:
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
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Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.

On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
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Using CM7? You must read this.

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raberry said:
Ok guys. I have to admit, I was about to give up on CM7 due to battery issues and what seemed to be memory leaks progressively making my phone lag more and more throughout the day. I have found something some of you may not be aware of and I wanted to share this amazingly helpful kernel with you.
Using x99, Scary, and stock kernels regardless of governor I seemed to maybe get 8 hours of battery life with moderate to heavy use. I am proud to say, using bcnice20's kernel I have had my phone on for 9 hours with 60% battery life today. This is incredible, even with lighter use on the other kernels I had NOWHERE near this amount of battery left.
Most of you may not have seen this kernel because it isn't posted. (as far as im aware) Let me help you out. First, go into your Market and download Kernel Manager. There is a lite version in there that is free. If you have an extra buck or two donate to the developer for making a neat app where you can download kernels in a convenient place by downloading the pro version.
What you will be downloading is called bcblend SIO tinyRCU kernel. I have not true VR tinyRCU kernel yet. Not sure what the differences are, if someone could elaborate that'd be appreciated.
Regardless, I find the sweet spot for this to be at 245MHz min and 1GHz max on Interactive governor to work really well. The phone does not seem to get laggier throughout the day and consistently performs well, snappy, and just way better than the other kernels. (No offense to x99 and Scary, I appreciate all you've done!)
Give it a try and let me know if you all have similar results! I have heard that AOSP gets less battery than Sense ROMs from people on this very forum, and this may be the kernel to put that little debate to rest.
Oh, and be sure you have the latest CM7. I am on 7.0.2.1 trying this out.
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I have been using the x99 kernal and i have about 1 d and 12 hrs with about 45 % left.. I also have the calibrator apk from the market so it wipes the battery stat when im at 100%. and various other apps that deal with the speed of the sd card and what nots. So, me coming from the Hero is very happy with this phone...
Thank you for sharing your findings... THIS IS SO AWESOME !!!!!

That's amazing battery life. I can't seem to get that great of battery life on CM7 as compaired to stock sense roms. What calibration app are you talking about exactly? There are a few on the market.
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Most battery efficient ROM/kernel for i9000?

Hello follow XDAers!
I gave my old i9000 to my girlfriend, and now I'm looking for the most battery efficient ROM/kernel for it, since that's pretty much all she cares about.
Ideal would be if there was a pretty slimmed ROM already bundled with a good, battery friendly kernel.
Right now she's using SlimICS on it, but the battery life isn't very good at all. Haven't put too much time into it though, so might be configurable.
Anyways, opinions on best suited ROM/kernel for her?
Cheers!

Closed, there really isn't such a thing as a "best" rom, it very much depends on your usage, and wakelocks which is more of a user issues. (Download betterbatterystats and use that to check whats going on in the background).

What is the best kernel for PA3 (PARANOID ANDROID)

Hello all,
I want to install PA3, and I want to know what is the best kernel for battery performance.
Thanks!

RisingStar1 said:
Hello all,
I want to install PA3, and I want to know what is the best kernel for battery performance.
Thanks!
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Stock PA and matr1x kernel are both really good, with matr1x the battery life is about 5 hours screen, without screen it is just 1%/2 hrs.
I've tried franco and faux kernel too, but franco was a bit laggish and faux has terrible performance for me...slow ui, lots of framedrop in games...

There is no best kernel. All of them offer something a little different than the other. Some kernels work better with a ROM than others. My advice to to read up on them. Find out what you want out of it. Flash one and run it for a couple days. Make sure you let the battery drain past 20% then charge it without interrupting it. That's the surest way to gain maximum battery saving benefits. Just try them out until you find the one that's right for you. Happy flashing.

its actually made so that you dont have to worry about this stuff. kernel is just a cog. it twists and turns, who cares. unless you know exactly what youre missing of course. :cyclops: