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i looked around the forums a bit but the search returns too many results not related to what i'm looking for...
So not really sure what this sd-ext is. I've read that it's for apps that are moved to the SD card... But the thing is i'm running CM7 and i've moved apps using Apps2SD as well as directly from within GB itself without ever creating an SD-ext partition.
So whats the purpose of this? Should i create the partition? And does it make a soft link to a directory on my SD card since it seems /sd-ext is in the root folder. If so, if i change my SD card later and transfer all the files over to it, will it break the link?
Your SD card has a fat32 format, which is mostly typical for usb storage devices, computers, etc.
Android runs natively in an ext format environment.
The stock Apps2SD uses the fat32 portion of your SD card, which has limitations, because it isn't Androids native environment. If you format your card so you have an ext partition, you can trick the phone into thinking it's part of it's native environment...
A good example can be seen with widgets, which won't work if you move them to SD, but will work on an ext partition. Other uses include being able to move cache and dalvik...
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danger-rat said:
Your SD card has a fat32 format, which is mostly typical for usb storage devices, computers, etc.
Android runs natively in an ext format environment.
The stock Apps2SD uses the fat32 portion of your SD card, which has limitations, because it isn't Androids native environment. If you format your card so you have an ext partition, you can trick the phone into thinking it's part of it's native environment...
A good example can be seen with widgets, which won't work if you move them to SD, but will work on an ext partition. Other uses include being able to move cache and dalvik...
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Thanks for the explanation. What happens to all the apps already moved to my sd card now? How do I get them over to sd ext partition?
And right now I only hasn't an eight gb card which I plan to upgrade in the future. Will I be okay just transferring everything over to the new card at that time?
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You will need to be rooted...
You first set up the ext partition. Doing this will format your card, and erase everything. You will then need a script to run the a2ext. Darktremor is the popular one for the Nexus, but I'm not sure about the MT4G...
Once you have an a2ext script, then you just move your apps to internal, since the phone thinks the ext is internal memory.
Titanium backup can help backing up your apps, and also with moving them to internal in a batch...
Read up, because I know little about the mt4g specifics. I've ordered one, but until it arrives, I'm just reading...
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You will need to be rooted...
You first set up the ext partition. Doing this will format your card, and erase everything. You will then need a script to run the a2ext. Darktremor is the popular one for the Nexus, but I'm not sure about the MT4G...
Once you have an a2ext script, then you just move your apps to internal, since the phone thinks the ext is internal memory.
Titanium backup can help backing up your apps, and also with moving them to internal in a batch...
Read up, because I know little about the mt4g specifics. I've ordered one, but until it arrives, I'm just reading...
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Thanks. Yup I am rooted and running CM7.
seems to be a bit of a pain to format my sd card..
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I must admit, I wouldn't think you would need to?
The mt4g has more rom and ram than my Nexus, so I wouldn't have thought that you would run out of space quickly... Or am I wrong, and space is an issue?
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I must admit, I wouldn't think you would need to?
The mt4g has more rom and ram than my Nexus, so I wouldn't have thought that you would run out of space quickly... Or am I wrong, and space is an issue?
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No you're right actually. It's not really an issue but not sure why I think I should move the apps to the sd.. Haha
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Hey guys how do you move ALL apps and data to your sd card so when I flash roms (theres a new update everyday it gets too hard) I dont lose my progress in apps and I dont have to reinstall they are already there, is it possible to do this?
Also can you set sd card as default so new apps you install automatically go there.
It would be nice if I could partition just like 1 gb of my SD card just for apps!
Ive searched a few threads and stuff trying to gather information but none of them really helped alot so sorry if this has been answered!
What ROM are you running?
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What ROM are you running?
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RCmix3D at the moment, thinking about flashing Honey sense hd for a while!
I just want to make a partition of about 700mb onto the SD and move ALL my apps to it so I dont lose my progress and I dont have to worry about them when I flash roms!
thanks in advance!
Hello,
I'm unsure of any batch command to send all existing apps to SD so you may have to go to Settings> Applications> Manage Apps and move each one individually.
To change default app install location, use the following command either through ADB or in a terminal emulator:
pm setInstallLocation 2 //for SD card
pm setInstallLocation 0 //for phone internal memory
You'll find after setting the install location to SD, you'll notice that more apps can be moved to the SD card manually instead of just being greyed-out. However, be careful though - personally, I wouldn't move the following to SD since they've affected performance:
- apps which use a widget on your home screen (music players, aggregators)
- apps which explicitly interact with the system (e.g. task managers, autokiller, autostarts)
- Google apps
Hope this helps.
Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
Or
Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
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Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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Gparted wouldnt find my phone when plugged in when I tried.
Also when you just move to SD through settings>application, it doesnt move the whole app only half and when you install a new rom they arnt there
Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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So to move the apps COMPLETELY on to the SD so they are there when you install a new rom and stuff, I partition my sd card in Ext 3/4 and then use a2sd+ to move them over right?
I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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Delete, finger trouble.
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I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
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I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
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Open titanium backup, the first page that opens "overview", look down the bottom, will say something like;
Rom
Internal
Sdcard
A2sd+
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ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
It will always say move to SD if installed in any other place. But the SD it refers to is the fat32 partition, not your ext. A2sd+ will take care of it and move all new apps to ext on boot, as long as you install to internal memory first.
After some market updates of apps installed to ext , you may have to move to internal and reboot to ensure they're on the ext
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ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
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Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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I did the biggest one possible in Rom manager
Alright thanks for all your help mate!
Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Yeah but I use windows, and I'm having problems using Gparted live (it just wont let me partition my sd card) and using virtualbox I cant find my device in Ubuntu :S
Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Ahh stupid me haha, il try it out, thanks
i've problem in istalling new apps. the mobile gives me out of space eeroe message while i've about 20 MB free internal memory, and 527MB SD-EXT
is there any way to solve this problem?
Apps2sd
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try miui with a2sd support
APP2SD is already installed.
and it refairs that apps are on SD!
any solution?
which rom do you use? if your rom supports a2sd, download a2sdgui from market and move dalvik cache to sd using this app.
I seem to have the same issue. Using imilka Incredible S 1.1 Rom, and a 32gb Patriot card, with a 1gb ext4 partition. However, when I run a2sdgui, it says no ext partition detected.
It looked like gparted created it ok, but maybe there is a problem. I have about 237mb total phone storage, which is running out!
I get this error when I have file system errors.
not sure how to solve it on a partition though.
ahmed_elshaer said:
i've problem in istalling new apps. the mobile gives me out of space eeroe message while i've about 20 MB free internal memory, and 527MB SD-EXT
is there any way to solve this problem?
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I have gotten this on occassion during an app download/install from the market.
I have simply ignored it, and tried the download again until it succeeded.
I have no clue why it happens, but in my case, it is nothing more than an annoyance.
FWIW, I am utilizing a 2048G SD-Ext4, with lots of room.
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I have a rooted HTC Wildfire 2.2 with a new 8GB microSD Class 4. I'd like to correctly partition my SDCard so that I can install all applications on SDCard and not Phone Memory.
1- What I need is to help me setting up perfect sizes for SWAP & Ext3 (Perfect matches HTC Wildfire and 8 GB Card).
2- Can I install the stock 2.2.1 ROM over the SDCard?
3- Will all Apps got installed on SDCard after partitioning instead of Phone Memory leaving it empty?
Thank you
nice post i would like to know too!
Try rommanager, chose partition your sd,(instal old clockwork mod like 2.xx, becoz new ones make ext4, which is not compatable with some roms,)choose the greatest avilable size for ext and swap(it may be enough, if u r not app greedy, i had done so, so far i have 50+app installed), reboot-partition-done, the best trouble free way!
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Try rommanager, chose partition your sd,(instal old clockwork mod like 2.xx, becoz new ones make ext4, which is not compatable with some roms,)choose the greatest avilable size for ext and swap(it may be enough, if u r not app greedy, i had done so, so far i have 50+app installed), reboot-partition-done, the best trouble free way!
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Thanks for your reply but I don't want to end up my device because some people reported issues with partitioning part of internal phone memory due to some ROM Manager Partition Manager errors. I'll use a PC client to partition the card.
Rom manager works fine. I've done it a few times. The people having problems probably shouldn't have bought an android phone...... besides if something goes wrong odds are it won't just redo the partition again.
And make sure you backup your SD card before partitioning it.
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Use recovery (= rom manager) to partition first. If that gives any issues then use "gparted live cd" to partition sdcard. U need to download gparted_live_cd_ISOimage and burn it to a cd. Then using pc u need to boot from live cd to partition sdcard. Here be careful not to format ur pc hard drive.
The partitioning sizes I recommend are 512MB ext , 32MB swap and remaining fat. If that is not sufficient u can choose 1024 MB, 64MB.
If u r using gparted then first create extended partition as fat corresponding to its memory. Then create ext and swap. At last format all those partitions.
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Dude, i have done it several times, so far got no issues, and it is the simplest way.
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omg wow
so i have conflicting information from this thread and this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19927720#post19927720 on whether or not i am able to create an sdext partition on a factory rom, which i have come to the conclusion that you may be able to, but would you be able to put that partition to use and have apps installed and read from there. please be more specific, i have an LG Opt T running 2.3.3 btw
thanks for any input
I used gParted. It's free. You can find it by fecking googling download and burn to a CD. Then boot it on your PC. Linux will show up. Open gParted from desktop and size your ext and format.
I made 1 GB ext4 and 64 MB Swap. 1 GB is too much for ext since I can't use more than 100 MB. 512 is ok. I read somewhere that Swap isn't used anymore but 64 MB isn't a thing in 8000.
It doesn't matter if its ext3 or 4 since you can flash DT's A2SD to any ROM.
The apps you moved to SD before are not in ext partition. They will stay in FAT partition. To move them to ext, simply move them to phone (after DT's A2SD phone means ext part.
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Hey man,
I had the same problem a while ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253270&page=2
In the second to last post I finally managed to get it to work. (Just to be clear, I used the darktremor script, but not the app, for the app is use S2E and to visualise my usage i use "freespace", but work like a charm ! )
Hope it helps
Every time I install a rom it says insufficient storage. Please help.
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you need to wipe everything except the SD before you flash the ROM
Yea ive done the wipe correctly x3 everything and still does that
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Is the the system mounted or SD mounted? Also what Rom are u trying to install? Just throwing that out there...
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Are you using dta2sd? And is your SD partitioned.
Ive tried a few roms right now im using mikg 3.11.. its actually kinda random like yesterday I couldn't download anything from google play but this morning it let me download. And im on a fresh install and have plenty of memory. I don't have a ext set up or any apsd set up either
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OK I got it. You need to have an SD ext because the evo can't actually handle a rom that large without one. You need to have the rom apps moved to your SD card. This will give you an insane amount of free space. Your ext must be ext3 for best results. In recovery partition SD then upgrade ext2 to ext3. This will also format the SD so move your contents to a folder on PC. I believe Mik has dta2sd built in so it should move apps on install. This will fix your low memory issue 100%.
Ok will do.. but the Rom has like 300 mbs free. But still will do this and see if it fixes it
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MikG has a2sd baked in, so you need to have the sdext.
Most roms have a2sd enabled by default. Also the phone uses the sdext for dalvik storage as well so you should always have one. Ext3 is highly recommended.
my recommendation would be to move your dalvik cache to sd partition and then see what you need to move app wise. i go by the rule if it doesnt need to be on your sd card then dont put it there. if you are still running out of room after dalvik is moved then damn you got some big apps (lol just messin) but just move a few there is no point in having all this free space on internal storage when its there to be used