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2.2 With SenseUI Aug 3!!

"Google" The EVO Update As I'm Not Allowed to post links.. BOO.
The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?

There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks

I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.

darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different

Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!

Zardos66 said:
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.

Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!

does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.

surrealbliss said:
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.

nfinitefx45 said:
the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!

Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )

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Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.

The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)

i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!

There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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Jsos said:
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.

Devs and roms...were are they?

This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.

kirkcody said:
This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.
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I used to have a g2 and I gave it up for the mytouch. I'm seriously considering getting my g2 back
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hawaiian.monzta said:
I used to have a g2 and I gave it up for the mytouch. I'm seriously considering getting my g2 back
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Me too.... =/
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The phone is only 12 days old guys. Have some patience.
I'm sure someone in the CM team will get their hands on a MT4G soon. If not, then I'm sure another capable dev will figure out how to port CM6 over to our phone.
Honestly, I'd be down to donate $5 to the CM team along with the OP. We'd just have to hope 88 other MT4G owners will do the same.

http://twitpic.com/35seph

CM6 for the MT4G is already built and bugs are being worked out. (Wifi, Camera, & BT)
Once those things are fixed we should be seeing a RC.

CM is working on a rom...the wiki page has a link for the glacier, there is just nothing on it yet...give him time...

You would be a fool to go back to the wobbly hinge G2 just because they have a ROM. This is a much superior device and they will come. Just be patient.

Some of you guys are being stupidly impatient. You can't expect a bunch of ROM's for a phone that achieved a permanent root just a few days ago.
Development is going fairly quickly anyway. Kmobs of CM already has a working build for the MT4G. That's pretty damn good and since in many ways the G2 is similar to the MT4G, things should go even faster.
Look at the G2 development forum, they've already got the G2 ROM ported to the MT4G. Another example would be VISIONary. It worked for the MT4G before it was even meant to.
Either way, MT4G users have no room to complain. The phone I came from, the Vibrant. It still doesn't have CM or a stock Android 2.2. Even the ROM's it has now took at least a month to perfect.
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kirkcody said:
This is a great phone IHO..its the best android phone in the market right now....but why is that it seems like no one either has,or devs are not to intrested in showing support for this phone...excluding KMOBS...come on devs weres the love id be willing to donate for cyan to get this phone...anyone else..because right now this forum is pretty sad compared to the G2.
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I hope I feel the same about my MyTouch when it gets here Wed (if UPS doesn't reschedule, like they always do). Right now, the Android that all other phones are compared to is the Evo (I have one). But in my town, which has 3 sprint towers... 2 of them have been down for 4 months and I finally gave up and switched to TMO. I hate giving up my Evo (rooted, custom ROm, custom Kernel)... there is so much support for it from software to accessories (I have the 3500 mah battery from Seidio). I'm going to miss all the goodies for the Evo while waiting for all the support to catch up to the MT4G (which it might and might not... we never know how much an individual phone will be supported). I am so surprised how the G2 got supported. Sliding keyboard phones don't usually get that much support because they are so flimsy. Let's hope this MT4G has as much appeal to the developers as it did to us! If I don't like it, I'll have the option of going to ATT sometime in Dec when they finish switching over from Alltel.

lonlawrence said:
I am so surprised how the G2 got supported. Sliding keyboard phones don't usually get that much support because they are so flimsy.
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, it's Cyanogen's new phone, therefore it gets massive CM lovin'. kmobs has the Glacier though, it won't be left out in the cold.
Oh shi-accidental pun.

Wow, these phones didn't come out the same day ppl.

+1 on people being impatient. These guys are working their butts off essentially for free since most people are too cheap to donate. Root ur device, play around, install launcher pro an quit ur *****in'. ROMs will come in due time.
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daewond3r said:
The phone is only 12 days old guys. Have some patience.
I'm sure someone in the CM team will get their hands on a MT4G soon. If not, then I'm sure another capable dev will figure out how to port CM6 over to our phone.
Honestly, I'd be down to donate $5 to the CM team along with the OP. We'd just have to hope 88 other MT4G owners will do the same.
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This is key, We need to show the developers some love here $$$$, Devs will work on devices that produce the highest returns=$$$$, There are so many EVO owners that producing a quality rom will have excellent returns=$$$$, The upside is with the hardware of our devices CM has the potential of creating thier greatest Rom to date. Lets be patient and get a bug free release, Instead of a premature release full with bugs.

30Glock said:
This is key, We need to show the developers some love here $$$$, Devs will work on devices that produce the highest returns=$$$$, There are so many EVO owners that producing a quality rom will have excellent returns=$$$$, The upside is with the hardware of our devices CM has the potential of creating thier greatest Rom to date. Lets be patient and get a bug free release, Instead of a premature release full with bugs.
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I agree.
I will donate $20 for the first ROM that takes full advantage of the MT4G capabilities.

foxdl99 said:
+1 on people being impatient. These guys are working their butts off essentially for free since most people are too cheap to donate. Root ur device, play around, install launcher pro an quit ur *****in'. ROMs will come in due time.
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Word!
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I WASNT *****IN I THINK ALOT OF PEOPLE MISINTERPRETED THE REASON FOR THIS POST..IM NOT BASHING MT4G, JUST TRYING TO GET IT IN THE LIMELIGHT...WHY ARE MOST NOT ALL PEOPLE ON XDA SO OFFENSIVE...MT4G FTW!!!!!!...LOL

i just got my mytouch 4g in the mail, havent turned it on yet because the hardware is still mighty cold, but who do i sue for the fact it isnt rooted with cm6 yet?!?!?!

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Is this real?
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Of course. Kmobs been testing it. He says bluetooth and a few other things have to be worked out

Is N1 roms dev dead?

It's horrible but true!
Our beloved N1 losed the biggest devs:
-Paulobrien left several months ago
-Evil shows up very rarely
-Micromod sold his N1 so no more updates
-Rodriguez ''disapeared'' since january
Only a few devs are still here but the ''big heads'' left
No more Desire or Desire HD to N1 ports?
Oh the sweet times when we used to have incredible roms every 2 days and we didn't know what to choose...

It is a sad and inevitable decline. But at least we have Cyanogenmod. If the N1 lost support for that, i'd probably get a new phone. We look pretty safe for a good while now though.

Makes me sad cause I still don't wanna leave the nexus one:-(. What else is worth it? The nexus s ROM support hasn't really exploded yet, so I dunno where else I'd go.

I don't know about you.. but I've never had the need to try anything else than CyanogenMod, so I can't really say I'll miss or worry about the other devs being gone.

Paulobrien,Evil and Micromod were the ones who ported Desire roms into N1, without them we are stuck to ''plain'' roms
Desire HD port need some works and I doubt someone will port Desire gingerbread to N1

Desire ROMs are in decline - because nobody is interested enough to finesse them, but GB ROMs are crawling from under every corner - because it's new and fun. Even though they're mostly beta-quality - because everyone is waiting for the official GB update.
When GB will be on Desire, and only then, you'll see if there is any development. Right now there's nothing to develop.

You have lot people waiting for a faster and more stable Desire HD rom
But as I said the only one to really work on it is Evil, other devs are just cooking MIUI and CM7 instead of porting something new

You forget one of the best dev's in the list, Enomther.

Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull

vegetaleb said:
Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull
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He announced his stepping away from rom developement in his thread for his rom. Whether it is temp or permanent remains to be seen, but he will be missed. He was definitely tops on my list.

vegetaleb said:
Enomther has always been rare
Perhaps he's waiting for official gingerbread release before doing his new rom,he's very carefull
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unfortunately http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11089520&postcount=8305

The question is where are they going? Nexus s?
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onesavior said:
The question is where are they going? Nexus s?
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Took the words out of my mouth. Did a new worthwhile phone come out this past month or something? I suspect (as someone else mentioned), most are just waiting for Google to finally release GB. I myself have been bouncing around MIUI, and GB ROMs. Now I'm back to stock with a blackbar theme and I'm pretty peachy. Long live the Nexus One!

There is a lull simply because 2.3 isn't out. Look how the dev section exploded with the OTA for froyo. Once 2.3 hits I'm sure it'll heat up again

Hollow.Droid said:
There is a lull simply because 2.3 isn't out. Look how the dev section exploded with the OTA for froyo. Once 2.3 hits I'm sure it'll heat up again
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Your post reminds me of that old saying "the calm before the storm" lol. And yes this is true, the mytouch 3G I switched from went pretty dead after being stuck on 1.6 forever and once an "official" release of 2.1 let out, devs trickled back in and it heated up again, I think once 2.3 officially drops for the N1 that it is gonna start a firey oven of optimized tastey roms.. Personally I think the devs are just bored of 2.2 and want to play with something new and 2.3 just isn't in a good enough standing right now for them to attempt to "optimize" it..
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vegetaleb said:
It's horrible but true!
Our beloved N1 losed the biggest devs:
-Paulobrien left several months ago
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Paulobrien said on modaco site: I still have my N1 and i'm still planning new updates. It was at Jan 31 2011, 19:45.
Sorry can't write direct link due newbie status.

And if you like a Devs rom be sure to donate. No one works for free
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MIUI (which is the most innovative Android ROM) and CM are still going strong for the Nexus, so no, development is not dead.

Sexy nexy still the best!!!!!!! It has everything what i need, like amoled cam flash GPS ...... i stay with my sexy nexy
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It's sad that's lots of devs are leaving the N1.
But be optimistic and patient everyone as we wait for the official OTA.
Right now I'm using cyanmod 6.1 and it's been great. I'm just glad we still have him around. I'm sure cyanogen ain't never gonna leave us.

It seems like people are losing interest in the Inc...

I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...

We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I saw a guy using a Thunderbolt... it rebooted on him twice in 10 minutes... second time to the startup screen

donnyp1 said:
We will get more newer gb sense roms when a working kernel is ready. It slowed when tbolt came out, but the inc 2 will not slow us, neither a just that much of an upgrade imo. When our kernel is ready, you will see many varieties of ports for the dinc.
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I hope you're right because I feel like the phone will be relevant, hardware wise, for a little while still...

/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.

Dumaru said:
/shrug. I have been using Cyanogenmod 7 Nightlies. Its Gingerbread. I'm at work so i cant see those images for that linked ROM... but what it says it has doesnt sound that great... also it makes 4g not work on your evo if you use it... so ... why even have an evo and be with sprint if you use that ROM.
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Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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donnyp1 said:
Dude, your in the wrong forum. This is the droid incredible, not the evo.
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That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.

N-Forced said:
That rom that the op linked to is an evo rom, so him talking about an evo is perfectly reasonable.
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True, but title to this thread is completely in reference to the dinc, which doesnt support 4g in the first place
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localceleb said:
I remember the days where people would port over awesome roms to the incredible, but not anymore...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036706 - would be nice to have that...
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we'll get more ports when we get a gingersense leak. That rom is so outdated haha virus new port based on the htc kingdom sounds like its going to be a huge success for the evo.

A bit of perspective
Although I can feel where you are coming from on the fading of interest I wanted to chime in here to relay my recent experience with the incredible and its devs. My wife and I both had eris phones and were both rooted and running custom roms. The phone unrooted is almost unbearably slow and painful. Rooted is much better but still the phone itself is just so antiquated. I pushed Verizon to up my upgrade date and recently got the Thunderbolt. My wife finally got fed up with the eris and her upgrade date was too far out to push up so I got her a used incredible locally for about $170. Now comes the part that blew me away. The guy I got it from had it stock and never rooted. I did the research and was, as i said blown away with the sheer simplicity of the rooting and clockwork recovery rom experience. Thats all aside from the beauty, speed, screen brightness, perfect size, and overall satisfaction of the phone. I truly almost prefer it over my thunderbolt. The rom factory may be slowing down but this phone is an amazing device overall and the devs that have put time into it are to be commended in the highest. I can only hope that cyanogen and the others make my thunderbolt as amazing of an experience.

cant wait for gingersense. running CM7 2.3.4 but miss sense.

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I disagree. Several awesome ROMS are out there and it seems like we get another new ROM every week or so. Admittedly, some are more awesome than others, but development is defintely still on-going. That's the beauty of this device - it was so far ahead of it's time.
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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I don't understand how the HTC HD2 is getting gingersense ports and sensation sense 3.0 ports, the phone is a Windows mobile phone so I doubt any gingerbread kernels are released for that... I don't get how they have these ports but we can't?
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Windows is a non issue.. once you flash an android rom (w/ Linux kernel) the windows phone os doesnt matter as its just hardware at that point. Android rom uses the Linux kernel to communicate w/ hw.
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I have noticed things are slowing down too. I got a Thunderbold day 1, which I love, no looking back for me, but my wife still has a Dinc, and I am always looking to update, it is currently running Myns Warm Z, not much else right now.

I am not sure it is slowing down so much as people are finding that what they have the love. I personally still flash a few roms every now and then but I always tend to go back to one... because It has the most of what I love. I think that always happens. I use to see this when I was running windows mobile htc 8125, people said that everything was slowing down but I think it is more the fact that you have know tried most of the ROMs. When I first got this phone I went through and flashed as many roms as I could. a few of them I am not going to try again until they get a few more levels up since I was not satisfied but there were a few that I really liked and I have flashed them when they come out with a new one. BUT I do always go back to my main rom.
So after all that I dont know if it is slowing down since I see new roms out every once in a while. I think that I just dont have the interest to flash them as often since I can say, I have already tried that. I will wait 3 more version before flashing that again...
You may have noticed that I didnt use one rom name since I do not want to discourage any ROM developer. They all do an "Incredible" job here no pun intended. Keep up the GREAT work and happy flashing.
SoBBie

I hear what you're saying, but there is still a lot of great work going on. The release of skyraider 4.0 was huge, and there are still a ton of roms being actively supported. Between CM7, MIUI, LiquidMetal, the z roms, and the stock sense roms, you can get just about any look you want.

It seems though, that most new ROM work, including ports, are the same old bases reworked with a twist. CM7 is nice, but doesn't have Sense.. The desireZ ports are nice, but still 2.2.. as with Skyraider.
I'm sure not knocking any devs work.. I use them and donate, just wish we had some new work coming our way... especially GingerSense!

I still see lots of development for the Inc. I am definitely really glad I got rid of my Fascinate for it two months ago.
Just my $.02

LOL, I'll have my ROM up and running soon... coming out of alpha soon...

Buying an EVO--Seeking Advice

Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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Art2Fly said:
Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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If its running android 2.3.3 and when you load into the bootloader it says "s-on" next to the radio version then its not rootable yet.

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?

Art2Fly said:
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?
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The general consensus is that they will not be unlocking older phones so as to encourage consumers to buy the newer ones.
EDIT: There is always of course the possibility that an independent developer will find an exploit and give us the ability to gain root access to our phones. Some devs are known to be working on this now. There's no guarantee of course, but there is hope for those of us who were feeling hopeless.

OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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My wife is using Mikg, and her evo runs awesome. Can't wait to root mine...
Sent from my unrooted OG Evo....

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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I really liked Deck's ROM; lightweight, few issues; great battery life when combined with Tiamat 3.3.7. It's basically CM7 with a lot of the extra clutter (language packs, etc) removed. It looks and acts almost exactly like Android on the Nexus S.
That was my daily driver. I also really liked playing with Synergy; it's feature-packed and has a lot of bells and whistles, and is a fun toy. I didn't like it for daily use, though. I am really into the KISS philosophy when it comes to my smartphone.

And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?

Art2Fly said:
And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?
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Do alot of reading in the development thread. There is plenty to learn about.
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Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?

Bump
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Art2Fly said:
Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?
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Well that's a question that is dependent on a few things:
Do you prefer physical or virtual keyboards?
Is the loss of a nicer screen worth a bigger screen?
The Epic could be a great phone if it had the developer support that the Evo had/has.
They don't even have an AOSP ROM.

YES, trade, then load synergy rls1, then freedom kernel, for root use unrevoked,
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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy

Art2Fly said:
Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy
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My personal opinion is that developer support is what makes the phone.
The Epic has a better core for performance and for battery.
If I recall correctly the GPU is better too.
The screen is nicer.
The keyboard sucks [because I hate physical keyboards]
But the developer support, comparative to the Evo, is nil.
Now, there have been signs of an increase in support but with the SGS2 coming it's hard to say how much will come to the Epic itself.

I actually just came from an epic to the evo since mine was stolen (which really sucked I loved that phone) but with the evo I've never looked back. I really liked the physical keyboard since I'm not a fan of soft keyboards but swype and mods alongside a much larger screen make up for it. Speaking of the screen, its no super amoled but its definitely one of the nicest I've used and and the phone overall is just beautiful. Battery is about the same for both in my experience. But like others have said the evo has MUCH better developer support. I remember I was using frozen syndicate Rom 1.2 before my epic was stolen ( back in end of may/ beginning of June) and they still didn't update I believe. Plus Samsung still hasn't released gingerbread for it and its being discontinued October I think. So all in all you should trade for the evo, definitely much better software support especially for a phone reaching its EOL, not to mention hardware (i.e. cases) Plus sense is just great
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Ive had both phones, I had the epic then i traded it for my evo<3 which i love so much. I dont regret trading it at all. Personally, i like the evo more it is greater over all