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anyone on data 5 able to get voice calls ( in or out)
website http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html confirms they should be available , but o2 helpline say not + not responded to my last 2 emails
bump ?
Colinc,
I have managed this. But I had to send my query via the email option. When I tried the call centre the CS person told me it was only possible to add voice calls to business user accounts not personal. I sent query by email from the 02 web site, which goes to an off-shore CS dept i think, and they activated voice calls (I did upgrade to Data 36 as well at the same time).
I take it you have a voice plan as well as the Data5?
"O2 Data 5
(With voice calling plan or as Data Only)"
Sean, no the voice calls are at the business Pay as You Go rate, see this at the O2 web site: http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/0,,141,00.html
See the details for Data5
see what you meen but it seems that o2 have at least 3 different Data5 tariffs, The one I have been quoted (and used) is £8 plus vat and is available as a bolt on to a monthly call tariff.
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/datatariffs/0,,203,00.html
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sean, but if yu click the "data tariff" ink at bottom of that page you get
http://flash.o2.co.uk/business/tariffs/pdfs/DataTariffs_PriceList_1stOct2004.pdf
wich states includes the £8 pm data tariff - which I have as a standalone ( not bolt on)
"Voice calls per minute (when data tariffs are taken as a standalone tariff)
UK fixed-line numbers, O2 mobiles and other UK network mobiles 21.28p anytime"
so I should be able to use for voice , albeit at 21p pm "pay as I use"
whats the point of an "all in one machine - if I have to swap sims
been 14 days ... 3 emails ( ignored)
2 calls , - "can't do" well data specialist ageed yes... put me thro' to c/s who said NO.. then cut me ff
1 complaint letter
O2 t&c says they resolve mistakes within 7 days or I can cancel contract!! penalty free, trouble is not keen on them registering a non payment on my credit file, so might have to try and invoice them , follow thro' C Courts if need me
See what you meen, Ive never tried to use the Dat5 the way you do, so unfortunately cant help. What I do know is that when it comes to O2's data tariffs or mobile web most O2 staff havnt got a clue, I'm thinkin goin with a different provider when my contract is up.
Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
I am sorry for any inconvenience that may have been caused.
As you are on the O2 Data only tariff, you will not be able to make and receive voice calls.
You need to contact the shop, where you were informed that you would be able to make and receive calls on this tariff. They will help you further.
If you need further information about this matter, please reply to this email.
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Just got the above response from 02 after my second email.
I went into the shop in the first place and the guy just told me to get in touch with customer services. I cant complain too loudly because I want to keep the exec and so cant threaten to cancel as I dont want to, but I would like voice calls.
Any ideas ?
Does anyone have a solution to get O2 to let me have voice calls on this tarrif ?
someone said they had got the voice on a payg type rate on top if this tariff. i wonder if they're being sneaky since you (we) got our execs cheap?
jus leave the sim in a drawer, its really no use, u only got it for the phone anyway
i got 5 of them, im looking to pay them off when my trade-in cheques come through, then just pay off remaining line rental and be done with it.
When I got the deal they asked me whether I wanted voice enabled on the sim. I said 'as long as it doesn't cost anything'. Not tried it (using my other o2 contract SIM) but assume it does work.
Yeah may just bin the sim. Is there no chance I could change it to a £9 ish voice plan in 6 months time ?
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
l6cum said:
the data tarriff is 'data only' but you can get voice calls on it.
it will be charged at basically 25p per min at alll times. you need to get in touch with cust serv to activate it. the sales advisor told me this and also a little section on my first bill said the same.
i too tokk this offer but i have an orange contract anyway and got this deal purely as an investment as i already have an exec!!
i would do what the others have done... put the sim in a drawer and forget about it for 11 months then reing cust serv to terminate contract and pay jjust the £9.40 a month!!!!
cheers
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Thats the thing though, customer services are saying I cant have voice calls on the data5 plan as per their reply quoted in my original post. Why let some have it on and tell others no ?
all customer service depts. employ an EU regulated quota of imbecilic monkeys. just keep trying...one will be able to read eventually.
As mentioned elsewhere I had to move to the Data36 tariff before I could have voice calls activated. If you go from a voice tariff to Data5 you might find you do have both!
If they dont want to switch them on thats up to them. I aint all that bothered. I just emailed them and said thats fine I will use my voda sim I only wanted the phone anyhow.
Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
Well voice calls can be made as well as received on data tariffs. However, there is a slight glitch. There are two basic tariffs - One that allows calls and the other that doesn't.
You cannot make calls unless you shift to the one that allows voice calls. You will have better luck getting this done if you talk to the Business customer services.
So neither is false. You can make calls as the website says. However, you need to purchase the right tariff. The one you can make calls with is called the o2 data centric.
Next time you call CS ask to speak to the Business CS (they will either direct your call or give you a number to call). Ask them to change your tariff to o2 Data Centric. That should solve your problems.
The CS at o2 is crap and just too arrogant. They have no knowledge about things and no manners at all. So much for - "Welcome to the o2 UK based Customer Service centre". Even 3 CS is a lot better.
Yes, you can also change to a complete voice tariff after 6 months if you so desire but it has to be from one of the then prevelant voice tariffs. I think there is none for £9 even today. Minimum i guess is £19.
Good luck with getting your tariffs changed. Hopefully, this information comes useful. Please leave feedback for the benefits of others.
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Hey Guys. I have the same problem. It says on 02's website http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/tariffs/ that voice calls can be made. I ended up speaking to someone at customer services for 25 mins just getting annoyed because even though I pointed this out to them they were still not accepting this. I mentioned False Advertising on their website and as such I should in the next few days be able to make voice calls. So whoever you speak to, just point them to the address above and they should allow voice calls.
Good Luck to all
Euan Henderson
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Have now sent a copy of this to the person who was dealing with me via email. Cant see how they can refuse to do it now. Will let you know how I get on.
hello
i can make voice calls and i am on data 5 centric, good thing is that for me it costs the same £9.40 per month inc VAT, the slaes guy that i bought the phone from must have activated for me whilst i was quizzing him about it!
so if u switch to data 5 centric it shouldn't cost you extrra at all, because all that will happen is your call charegs are at 25p per min all time ie the PAYG rate.
thanks
has anybody been able to change from data 5 to data 5 centric via CS then? I might give this a go if I have the time over the next few days....
No, it is not possible to transfer from data 5 to data 5 centric. I tried this and didn't get anywhere. Eventually i spoke to some advisor who told me i had to go to the shop i bought it from,(within 14 days) and cancel the contract and sign up again (this time with centric). A lot of hassle but definitely worth it.
Good luck
Euan
Did you talk to the Business Customer services?
The data tariffs are business tariffs and CS don't have a clue about them. (Ofcourse even otherwise they are clueless.) They can do nothing. You need to talk to business CS. They should be able to help you out.
I work in o2 business customer service and have just read this thread wondering what all the bull**** replies you've had from o2.
To clarify, you CAN move from 'Data 5 Data Only' to 'Data 5 Data Centric'
I would do this for you but it is not allowed for me to just change accounts without completing a security check.
like mentioned earlier, just explain to business customer service that the people in personal c/s dont know what they're talking about and you need moving to data centric.
jp
Thnx JP, tht'll solve problems for a lot many users.
Hi, does anybody have this plan? I cannot get a straight answer from T-mobile. It says that you have unlimited surfing (well 'unlimited' to 10GB anyway) and voip eg skype. I cannot find out if the Skype is restricted to Skype users only (as '3' do) or if it is completely unrestricted I want to make calls to international numbers on Skype using my Skype account. Can anybody give me a straight answer?
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Hi, does anybody have this plan? I cannot get a straight answer from T-mobile. It says that you have unlimited surfing (well 'unlimited' to 10GB anyway) and voip eg skype. I cannot find out if the Skype is restricted to Skype users only (as '3' do) or if it is completely unrestricted I want to make calls to international numbers on Skype using my Skype account. Can anybody give me a straight answer?
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the web`n`walk max is unrestriced from what i understood and not based on Skype account
yes, cyberjak, but do you have this account and have you dialled an international number?
You're using a data connection through Skype's client software irrespective of the number your dialing.
The data doesn't cost any extra.
You don't get charged extra for sending e-mails or MSNing to someone in another country. Why would Skype be any different?
Hi Slave1, my question is not about the charges, it is: does T-mobile block dialing through Skype the same as '3' does. Do you have the max plan?
My priceplan is slightly better that WnW Max. But I don't know anyone who lives in another country and only use Skype to Skype calls (I'm a cheap skate and get very cheap calls on my mobile).
If you have WnW Max you also have Free Hotspot access. Send OPEN via SMS to 9526 to retrieve your HotSpot username and password. If this doesn't work call 150.
'My priceplan is slightly better that WnW Max' but cheaper ?
I know there are ways to get through the Skype block but I mainly want the plan for cheap international calls and I dont have a landline in my apartment. If I pay for the max plan I want to make sure it will do what I want. I have no problem finding people telling me what the plan should do (mostly they are on commision)
I have the Web N Walk Plus (Max) with my Vario III, this is what I have come across so far...
Skpe, doesn't work for me although as I understand it this maybe a software issue with the Vario III and not T-Mobile?
International, I was asked to pay a £250 deposit to have International call roaming activated - I told them to stick it
HPDPA, Wonderful and I also use it with my laptop for browsing have no idea about max download as I don't download that much.
@ gazzacbr
Order it off the website. Do it by 5ish today and you should have it tomorrow. Try Skype if it doesn't work how you want it to, send it back (you have 7 days to request this - called a DSR return, but ONLY from the website or telephone sales).
There you go, advice and no commision
ok thanks for (free) advise, Slave1. Maybe I will just try it and see.
StellaDell, I have a HTC Kaiser which is the same as the Vario III and have no problems running Skype on the web'n'walk daily plan. The version I have is SkypeForPocketPC 2.2.037 off their site. Install it from a PC connected by ActiveSync.
I have had my t-mobile PAYG for many years and roaming was activated for free a long time ago. I assume the £250 is to stop you running off with the phone if its a new contract.
So, yesterday I said goodbye to Sprint and the account is activated and I have till 1-7-13 to port the number out or they will charge for another month of service rates. I have ordered a Nexus 4 and will be here in 6-7 weeks, patience is a virtue. In the meantime I am using an old flip phone with AT&T pay as you go for $25.00 I want to port my sprint number but, do not have the new phone before 1-7-13 when the account will be closed.
Questions:
1-I ordered a Tmobile prepaid micro sim card and should get it tomorrow. Should I go ahead and activate the sim card and port the number even though I do not have the Nexus 4 yet?
2- If I activate online, can I port the Sprint number online or should I call TMobile to do it?
3-Can I buy a cheap TMobile prepaid phone, activate it and then switch the sim card to the Nexus 4 when it comes in? Doing this will allow me to test TMobile in my area before I get the phone or since it is a cheap phone I should wait to get the beast?
4-What is the advantage of porting the number to Google Voice? If I am possibly going to be testing TMobile and ATT Straight Talk plans for a month each. I do not want to lose my 13 year old phone number and have to notify all my contacts of a new number from either ATT or TMobile.
I am just trying to make a smooth and simple porting of the phone number from Sprint asap since the account will be closed on -7-13 before the Nexus 4 gets to me. Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
It is a bit confusing when the Walmart employee tells me that the TMobile sim cards with the phones they sell are tied to those phones and you can not switch to the Nexus 4. She also told me that the $30.00 plan on TMobile only applies to Walmart purchased phones. When I questioned TMobile on this, they stated that was not true and since I am not buying the phone from Walmart, I can order the TMobile prepaid sim card and activate it online and still get the $30 plan. Then, to call TMobile and they would port my number over.
Thanking in advance,
Ian B
1) Unless you have a phone in which you can activate the MicroSIM card you plan to use in the N4, wait. The setup process asks for an IMEI, and while I don't think it matters, you wouldn't have your Nexus 4's IMEI yet.
2) When you activate the T-Mobile MicroSIM, the process will include having them transfer the number from Sprint. Just have your Sprint account info handy.
3) The advantage of using Google Voice is that it adds some flexibility in how it's used, without using "minutes". This is popular on, for example, the $30/month T-Mobile plan, since it only has 100 minutes of talk.
Ajfink said:
1) Unless you have a phone in which you can activate the MicroSIM card you plan to use in the N4, wait. The setup process asks for an IMEI, and while I don't think it matters, you wouldn't have your Nexus 4's IMEI yet.
2) When you activate the T-Mobile MicroSIM, the process will include having them transfer the number from Sprint. Just have your Sprint account info handy.
3) The advantage of using Google Voice is that it adds some flexibility in how it's used, without using "minutes". This is popular on, for example, the $30/month T-Mobile plan, since it only has 100 minutes of talk.
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AJ;
Thanks for the info but, as you can see the account will close on 1-7-13 before the Nexus 4 gets to me at the end of January 2013. I could get the cheapest prepaid TMobile phone to activate the sim card and get the Sprint phone number ported over before I lose it on 1-7-13 which I do not want to lose.
What do you think on buying the cheapest prepaid TMo phone idea?
Thanks again,
Ian B
Mr Ian B said:
AJ;
Thanks for the info but, as you can see the account will close on 1-7-13 before the Nexus 4 gets to me at the end of January 2013. I could get the cheapest prepaid TMobile phone to activate the sim card and get the Sprint phone number ported over before I lose it on 1-7-13 which I do not want to lose.
What do you think on buying the cheapest prepaid TMo phone idea?
Thanks again,
Ian B
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You shouldn't need a device to activate your sim card through Straight Talk (i'm on it now with AT&T). The only thing it will ask for is your straight talk SIM Card information and the phone number you want to port.
https://www.straighttalk.com/secure/Activate - Select "Transfer my number from another company"
It will walk you through the steps, I did this with both my wife and I account (both coming from Verizon).
Porting for my wife took only 30 minutes while mine took close to 8 hours. It will still port even though you dont have it in a device. From what I remember you can only confirm the port was successful is when you use the SIM (it shows as HOME instead of No Service).
If you want to ask straight talk directly, best to use their twitter feed as they respond better there.
ibegary said:
You shouldn't need a device to activate your sim card through Straight Talk (i'm on it now with AT&T). The only thing it will ask for is your straight talk SIM Card information and the phone number you want to port.
https://www.straighttalk.com/secure/Activate - Select "Transfer my number from another company"
It will walk you through the steps, I did this with both my wife and I account (both coming from Verizon).
Porting for my wife took only 30 minutes while mine took close to 8 hours. It will still port even though you dont have it in a device. From what I remember you can only confirm the port was successful is when you use the SIM (it shows as HOME instead of No Service).
If you want to ask straight talk directly, best to use their twitter feed as they respond better there.
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Thanks Ibegary;
I will hold off on buying a prepaid phone then. I called earlier Straight Talk customer service and had a hard time understanding them. I don't use Twitter but, your link is pretty self explanatory. I think is the same issue with TMobile. They just shipped my sim card today and once it comes in, I can port the number to them without having a device and activate the sim card. They told me I have 120 days to get money into the account.
Ian B
ibegary said:
snip.....It will walk you through the steps, I did this with both my wife and I account (both coming from Verizon)....snip...
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About Verizon -- Do you know how the Verizon billing process comes into play. I am currently with Verizon, on contract. Waiting and preparing for the N4. Received a shipping confirmation today, for the Straighttalk ATT microsim card. Will I need to call Verizon and cancel my service, after ST ports the number from my Verizon account? If the number is ported in the middle of the Verizon billing cycle, do I get nicked for the whole billing period? Or, are Verizon charges suspended, automatically, once ST takes control of the number? I would like to avoid the charge for a whole month of Verizon, if the N4 arrives on or shortly after the start of a new billing period. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Bill M
First question: Do you plan to use Google Voice?
If NO, then hold off on activating the SIM until you have your phone in hand.
If YES, then this is the perfect time to port your number to Google Voice from Sprint (as I did) so you get to keep the same phone number and use VOIP to make and receive your calls, plus all the benefits of Google Voice. It will take 24 hours exactly until the number port is complete. It will take a day or two more until you can receive text messages through Google Voice. When you finally have your Nexus 4 phone in hand, activate the SIM per the included instructions in conjunction with the IMEI number on the new phone. You DO NOT want to port your number to T-mobile during the activation, just get a new number. You can quickly forget about this new number. There are guides already on how to setup VOIP with Google Voice + Pbxes.org using SipDroid to do all the configuration for you, then you can delete the SipDroid app off your phone. You DO want to install CSipSimple on your phone and configure it to connect to Pbxes.org (which is already wired to use GTalk and Google Voice by now). CSipSimple will integrate with the android stock dialer, or you can use CSipSimple as your default dialer. One more thing, I got tired of Android asking me if I want to make a VOIP call using Pbxes or Cell (T-mobile minutes) that inside CSipSimple I made a rule that ALL calls be made by Pbxes. So, I just use my phone as normal and CSipSimple makes the call and answers my calls. It really really is wonderful when I look at my T-mobile minutes, but none have been used and I get great call quality.
Antebios said:
First question: Do you plan to use Google Voice?
If NO, then hold off on activating the SIM until you have your phone in hand.
If YES, then this is the perfect time to port your number to Google Voice from Sprint (as I did) so you get to keep the same phone number and use VOIP to make and receive your calls, plus all the benefits of Google Voice. It will take 24 hours exactly until the number port is complete. It will take a day or two more until you can receive text messages through Google Voice. When you finally have your Nexus 4 phone in hand, activate the SIM per the included instructions in conjunction with the IMEI number on the new phone. You DO NOT want to port your number to T-mobile during the activation, just get a new number. You can quickly forget about this new number. There are guides already on how to setup VOIP with Google Voice + Pbxes.org using SipDroid to do all the configuration for you, then you can delete the SipDroid app off your phone. You DO want to install CSipSimple on your phone and configure it to connect to Pbxes.org (which is already wired to use GTalk and Google Voice by now). CSipSimple will integrate with the android stock dialer, or you can use CSipSimple as your default dialer. One more thing, I got tired of Android asking me if I want to make a VOIP call using Pbxes or Cell (T-mobile minutes) that inside CSipSimple I made a rule that ALL calls be made by Pbxes. So, I just use my phone as normal and CSipSimple makes the call and answers my calls. It really really is wonderful when I look at my T-mobile minutes, but none have been used and I get great call quality.
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A couple of questions, Straight talk and TMobile prepaid do not handle mms, correct? If that is so, can I get mms through google voice?
Your set up sounds too complicated for me and I only average about 40-60 mins of talk time per month so not worried about the 100 mins in the $30 TMob plan.
Thanks,
Ian B
P.S.---if someone in the Austin, Cedar Park area w a Nexus 4 with ST or TMob prepaid, send me a pm so you can call me and I can pick your brain on this stuff.
bmoke said:
About Verizon -- Do you know how the Verizon billing process comes into play. I am currently with Verizon, on contract. Waiting and preparing for the N4. Received a shipping confirmation today, for the Straighttalk ATT microsim card. Will I need to call Verizon and cancel my service, after ST ports the number from my Verizon account? If the number is ported in the middle of the Verizon billing cycle, do I get nicked for the whole billing period? Or, are Verizon charges suspended, automatically, once ST takes control of the number? I would like to avoid the charge for a whole month of Verizon, if the N4 arrives on or shortly after the start of a new billing period. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Bill M
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Do not call Verizon in fact you do not need to talk to Verizon at all
What will happen is straight talk will take your account number and billing pin and start the port for you with Verizon once the port is complete Verizon will close the line for the account
About 2 to 3 weeks later you will receive your final bill from Verizon that will include any ETF charges and any credit for the remaining of your billing cycle where there was no usage
So for example if your billing cycle is on the 29th and you ported on the 14th then you'll be charged for 14 days of service and then you'll be credited the other 14 or 15 days
Hope this helps
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Good afternoon,
After being on the T-Mobile $30 plan for about a year my VOiP setup stopped working. It didn't take me long to discover that 100 mins was not enough to get by on.
So, I dumped some money into my account to cover mins and bought a Straight Talk T-Mobile SIM and a month of service.
With my VOiP I was using Google Voice number. I attempted to port my Google Voice number to Straight Talk. Straight Talk called me a day after I attempted to initiate the port and told me I needed a new SIM. A day later my Google Voice number was ported over to ST. I was without my number for 2 days while I waited for my new SIM. Upon recieving my ST new SIM I cut it down to micro size and popped it in. Huzzah! Calls and texts work great but all grey bars, no connection to Google servers. So, I call ST and they tell me the porting is not complete. 24 hours later I call back and am told they cannot find the records of the port and will need 24 hours to submit a new ticket to provision my data. 24 hours later they call me and say everything should work. It does not. Today I spent an hour on the phone while "customer support" and "tech support" attempt to resolve my issue. No go. Every time i attempt to access the web I get directed to a T-Mobile site telling me my data plan does not work on this device. I have deleted all old APN's and know my APN is the correct APN for ST.
Any help you guys out there could provide would go a long way. Thanks.