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I hear so much about the Transformers incredible capabilities, but I have yet to hear what it cant do? What exactly separates it from being just as good as a computer?
btw, picking up mine locally on saturday. 32 gig, no dock, 10 hours of use, $400.
It cannot fill the void of a lonely life, nor replicate the caress from a beautiful woman, or the sense of wonder when you hear your child speak for the first time.
Left my TF to make me a cup of coffee this morning whilst I took I shower, but when I came back it hadn't even made an attempt to do it.
Very poor Asus!
Regards,
Dave
straxusii said:
It cannot fill the void of a lonely life, nor replicate the caress from a beautiful woman, or the sense of wonder when you hear your child speak for the first time.
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+1 heheh
Quality. . @ fox
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In all seriousnes.. For me it cant edit pictures efficiently in a manner I do on my laptop.. And I wouldnt even dream of dropping a Full HD h.246 video right out of my DSLR on it.. Its not powerful enough to play them let alone even try and manipulate those movie files.. Some day I hope to have a TF like device that will.. Anouther thing is that Video playback from the Browser could be better.. It does well but still isnt anything compaired to my i7 laptop.
Another thing is that in the Browser the keyboard has some serious lag issues that will need to be fixed later on in firmware updates.
Hmm .. I am trying to think of what else.. OH big one..
NO NETFLIX!! I know its comming but this is kinda a real bummer at the moment.
Aside from that I absolutly love mine and I think its the greatest money I have ever spent.. I dont expect it to do the things that my i7 laptop does but then again that is not what I bought it for.. I dont need a monster truck of a computer to go get the groceries ever day ( aka Fackbook, email, daily Forum surfing, blogs, etc)
All in all I love it.. I can throw my DSLR SD card in the Dock and view all my pics while charging my Droid X and/or OG Droid and using my wireless mouse plugged into the other USB port..
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It can't do the most simplest things such as open a CBR file in file manager.
stcardinal said:
It can't do the most simplest things such as open a CBR file in file manager.
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thats nothing to do with the Asus that'd be a android/filemanager thing. If your CBR reading app correctly associates itself with .cbr files then a filemanager would open it.
change .cbr to .rar and most file managers will open the file, or get ACV to read your .cbr files.
back to OP:
The transformer cannot play minecraft (yet).
It cannot edit photos with photoshop.
It cannot play back live tv from a usb tv tuner.
Otherwise I have found a way to do virtually anything that I need it to do.
It can't do anything itself without you.
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It can't do anything itself without you.
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yeah , not quiet as funny since those amusing comments were at the beginning of this thread.
It can't make folders on the desktop.
Can't make usb->serial to work No damn serial port apps yet.
For the life of me I cannot get it to do my laundry, go to work for me, train my cat, CLEAN ITS LITTER, or take out the garbage for me.
and sadly having a Transformer has done NOTHING for my sex life.
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I hear so much about the Transformers incredible capabilities, but I have yet to hear what it cant do? What exactly separates it from being just as good as a computer?
btw, picking up mine locally on saturday. 32 gig, no dock, 10 hours of use, $400.
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3rd party. No full MS Office suite, cant run my copy of Photoshop CS, etc. With a dual core 1ghz processor it will be capable of running lighter versions of some very powerful desktop apps.
Also, it doesnt make my breakfast for me, this is about the last straw and I might have to return it because people say the ipad makes breakfast.
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and sadly having a Transformer has done NOTHING for my sex life.
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Yours cant connect to youporn?
Can't give me superpowers...yet...
I have spent most of the day working on mine doing my reports, what it can't properly do is replicate the productivity apps on your PC, like Word & Excel. The Android equivalents do a fair job of allowing you to see & edit most docs, but using tables & more advanced formatting in a WP doc & trying to edit / create charts is beyond the apps at the moment. I doubt MS will bring out an Android Office, so we have to make do with what's there.
Printing is an issue, I can print, but not always the documents I want to & they don't always come out right.
I watch movies & content from Flash sites & spend a lot of time on email & websites like this, all are good (agree that the current browser typing lag must be addressed urgently).
It doesn't have a decent BBC iPlayer app or Sky Mobile app - UK users need to be vocal about BBC & Sky stepping up support for Android tablets.
If you can settle for the fact that the TF is not a PC & wasn't designed to be you will be happy.
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I hear so much about the Transformers incredible capabilities, but I have yet to hear what it cant do? What exactly separates it from being just as good as a computer?
btw, picking up mine locally on saturday. 32 gig, no dock, 10 hours of use, $400.
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NO Netflix!!! With such a beautiful ips screen, Netflix needs to hurry up and optimize their app for HC without all of the security issues!!! Other than that, it does the things I need it to do (browsing, gaming, twittering, facebooking, etc.)
KB does lag and sometimes it takes to switch app between apps!!!
I use PlayOn for Netflix and Hulu. It's not perfect, but good enough in a pinch. It's also not free, but it also allows Hulu which, even if there were an official client, would require Hulu+ at $7.99/month. So, technically speaking Netflix doesn't need to be on the list.
For me, the biggest thing the TF doesn't do, as mentioned, is allow for editing complex documents. I can use it for my fiction writing and blogging (although the Wordpress interface doesn't work sell, so I still need to finish larger blog posts on a PC some of the time), but not for most of my day job work, which requires the ability to create Word docs with headers and footers, tables, embedded Excel spreadsheets, etc. Oh, and PowerPoint support is pretty sketchy across the board, although of the options I've tried so far the included Polaris Office actually does best with Photoshop. And, of course, there's no robust Photoshop and InDesign support, and so I can't do that kind of work on it.
I think the TF makes a great adjunct device to a good desktop and/or notebook. If I were to go on a trip away from my desktop for a week or so, I'd still take my HP Envy notebook with me. On the typical day or overnight trip, however, I just take the TF.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Doesn't do Hulu (as previously mentioned) and it really doesn't like open office files. And if a file transfer that had huge numbers of small individual files fails, you'll have a fun time having to individually delete sub folders (or I did anyways). But I just got mine, so I haven't really found out what it can do, let alone what it can't (aside from all the humorous stuff already covered).
--Jak
Just bought Nook Touch myself. Still have rooted CM7 Nook Color but wanted a simpler, distraction-free book reader and the promotion price at B&N was unbeatable (well, as I've also learned Best Buy has even better deal for the same price but with AC adapter and 2GB card thrown in).
I am usually, root first, think second kind of guy, but with Nook Touch I really want a reader-centric experience and I am happy that, B&N delivers here. Gone are Sudoku and Chess, gone is music player (and speaker in general). What's left is one of the best e-Ink screens in the business and super light, very responsive book reader.
So what drives you guys to root this thing? It will never hold a candle to true tablet even after CM7 port. The videos that I've seen so far of the rooted Nook Touches are borderline pathetic in how bad the experience is. Besides the geeky 'look what I can do' kind of stuff, nothing has any application in day to day experience. Yes, I would be able to load Aldiko and, my personal favorite, Moon+ reader on this device but why? To enable landscape orientation and night mode? They are not needed on the device that is so light and requires external source of light anyway. For any real application besides readers, the screen refresh rate is non-usable and will never be.
I must be missing something...
Well, let me see:
Live sync of books and files with dropbox and dropsync, amazon books with kindle, coolreader for even more format support (or any other as moon reader), better pdf support with ezPDF Reader (or any other free or not pdf app), overdrive for public ebooks, Mango manga reader for online manga and or mangawhat and Perfect Viewer for photos or cbr, etc files, rss feeds, light internet with opera mini or mobile, and many other things...... even light old games as chess or 4 in line or card games are playable. Modifying fonts, adding new ones, I don't know XD, many things are possible with this device.
Of course this isn't a tablet, it's an ereader, for reading, but rooting just makes it expand where other ereaders cant go, and of course brake its own limitations for example, why the hell didn't they add landscape mode? Now you can use it.
Usb audio will also come when usb hostmode is finished, after the kernel is properly built
So why rooting?
Well, if the limitations of the device are tolerable for you, and you wont do any manga, or other format reading, dont root.
If you want to expand its operability, root, and of course you havent got to play angry birds (nobody does).
What ed said. I just like having a single e-ink reader that can handle so many different ereading platforms.
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I rooted it to use the dictionaries I needed with the fora dictionary app or colordict
I'm french so it's a revolution for me to be able to read an english book with the dictionary I chose, just selecting the word :O
I learnt so much English with my android devices,
But the eink quality of reading and battery life with the freedom and the possibilities of android is just awesome!
Sent from my GT-P1010
Out of curiosity, how do color comic books look on this thing? Let's say the latest issue of Superman in cbr or cbz format? Sometimes the text in the bubbles can be tough to read. My understanding is that the new Nook ST doesn't have multi-touch. Does that make contant zooming in/out painful?
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Out of curiosity, how do color comic books look on this thing? Let's say the latest issue of Superman in cbr or cbz format? Sometimes the text in the bubbles can be tough to read. My understanding is that the new Nook ST doesn't have multi-touch. Does that make contant zooming in/out painful?
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For comics its best to use Perfect viewer, if you know the layout and config it correctly there is no problem for zooming
I find coloured comics easy to read, other people may differ, they just appear as normal b/w ones.
https://androidmarket.googleusercon...et/com.rookiestudio.perfectviewer/ss-480-3-12
IMO, CoolReader is hands-down the best eBook reading software I have used. It works fantastically on the nook touch after root and gives the option to set the book's cover as your standby screen (instead of dead authors, etc). Aside from the few other apps I use, I would do it just for this.
One word: Calibre recipes auto-downloaded synced with dropbox, one touch sync to Nook Simple Touch with Dropsync.
Every morning I can hit that button and have ePub versions of my blogs, newpapers, etc. automatically downloaded to my Nook. Awesome.
You're right - I don't see much use in some of the traditional Android apps that you would use on a regular screen... the occasional IMDB lookup with that app and wikipedia lookup with the Opera browser also come in handy...
But mainly Calibre Recipes with dropsync.
Wow, Calibre looks really cool. Can you go into a bit more detail on how you use it with dropbox? Is it just that you set the default Library to your dropbox folder or is it something more?
I've rooted mine so I don't have to convert Kindle books, nor plug it into my computer to add books, or even to get books from the library using Overdrive. I've read a few Manga and other graphic novels on the device, its meh for that. Colours are so important, I feel like I'm robbing the artist by only seeing the work in greyscale.
I've done a few videos showing it off, here's a general one. If you're interested in what Manga looks like with the Mango reader, I have a video for that
http://youtu.be/mnfqD1lqL9g
i don't have an android phone so this allowed me to play with android for the 1st time.
It also help me sell the ipad2 that felt like a toy.
i wanted control. in addition to the reasons above there's rss feed reader and readitlater that i use to read this forum sometimes.
What i really want is a phone with eink display....
I admit the unique applications of a rooted eink android are not massive but for me my eyes find eink a lot easier to read.
The nook has tide me over delayed the upgrade cycle to a galaxy. This way i can wait until smart phones have 3 days battery life or eink like display i'm waiting for.
i also got ms word read/write support if i need it plus excel. With all this i should be able to carry the nook with all my docs.
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I've rooted mine so I don't have to convert Kindle books, nor plug it into my computer to add books, or even to get books from the library using Overdrive. I've read a few Manga and other graphic novels on the device, its meh for that. Colours are so important, I feel like I'm robbing the artist by only seeing the work in greyscale.
I've done a few videos showing it off, here's a general one. If you're interested in what Manga looks like with the Mango reader, I have a video for that
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Why I wanted to root my Nook touch.
A minor bit of thread necromancy here, reaching back to last month.
My top 5 reasons for rooting the nook touch were:
A PDF viewer with zoom and graphics only modes for non-OCR or poorly OCR'd books.
Dropbox sync.
Word, Excel, and PPt viewers.
.chm file viewers
Renaming files from 02658x42.doc to "Widget Technical reference manual".
Since I've done it, I also got the following working and love it even more.
Offline Wikipedia a la WikiReader.
Mobile boarding passes.
Sudoku.
Password Protection.
Standby display text "This nook belongs to <name>. Please call her at <number> and return it for a non-trivial reward, gratitude, and karma."
Thanks everyone for making the nook touch even more awesome.
On a grossly unrelated note, +1 the xdadevelopers noob video. That was great.
The reasons for rooting my nook:
A better pdf reader
cbz,cbr support
Docs support
ICS keyboard
Really? The battery-life and eInk quality improves when rooted?
Hey, I am pretty much satisfied with what the nook touch does, but then I would like whatever it does to be done better
And since reading eBooks is all that I want to do in the nook, I am REALLY interested with the possibility of improving the battery life and especially the eInk quality... Also I HATE the Marriam Webster dictionary that comes with the stock nook.
Can you quickly point me in the right direction for a better eInk display profile and replacing stock with the kindle Oxford dictionary without adversely affecting the battery life?
Please any help is appreciated
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I rooted it to use the dictionaries I needed with the fora dictionary app or colordict
I'm french so it's a revolution for me to be able to read an english book with the dictionary I chose, just selecting the word :O
I learnt so much English with my android devices,
But the eink quality of reading and battery life with the freedom and the possibilities of android is just awesome!
Sent from my GT-P1010
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Reasons I rooted:
[*]Just for the heck of it
[*]Dropbox sync
[*]Being allowed to use it during school (Me: "It's essentially a book." Teacher: "ok")
[*]To become part of a great community which is XDA
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[*]Being allowed to use it during school (Me: "It's essentially a book." Teacher: "ok")
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LMAO, best way to pass exams XD!!!!!!! that made my day xD
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LMAO, best way to pass exams XD!!!!!!! that made my day xD
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Most teachers wouldn't allow a book during an exam, so that means no nook during exams.
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Most teachers wouldn't allow a book during an exam, so that means no nook during exams.
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That's true, but it depends on where do you live and your skillz. Back in HS I used to bring one of those small memory-storing devices and it passed as a calculator, so...
Here in the US we would never be allowed to have a nook near us during the exam. But it is a great way to play sudoku and such.
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Here in the US we would never be allowed to have a nook near us during the exam. But it is a great way to play sudoku and such.
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Yeah, but if only they would trust us enough to let us read AFTER we finished the final exams. They make us wait until after EVERYONE in the room finishes, and there's always that one person that either fails miserably, or just checks it over and over again until the teacher tells him to stop. /facepalm
Hi,
I am considering on buying transformer tf101 with dock in a couple days, to replace my windows xp netbook.
I am planning on using it, on working with documents(words), creating slides(powerpoint) and presentation(connect it to vga projector). Accesing my email. Reading pdf. Using skype on the go(i guess i need the transformers with modem installed)
My questions are,
- user interface from xp to honeycomb (or ics), any simmilarities?
- should i root the device in order to upgrade to custom rom?
- if that the case which custom rom would you suggest for me?
- until now i always work my documents with microsoft office, so which office apps would you recommend me ? Since there are several out there.
- what about presentation with vga connector, any experience?
- how long does the battery last, without dock and with dock?
Thank you for your feedback.
indiziert said:
Hi,
I am considering on buying transformer tf101 with dock in a couple days, to replace my windows xp netbook.
I am planning on using it, on working with documents(words), creating slides(powerpoint) and presentation(connect it to vga projector). Accesing my email. Reading pdf. Using skype on the go(i guess i need the transformers with modem installed)
My questions are,
- user interface from xp to honeycomb (or ics), any simmilarities?
- should i root the device in order to upgrade to custom rom?
- if that the case which custom rom would you suggest for me?
- until now i always work my documents with microsoft office, so which office apps would you recommend me ? Since there are several out there.
- what about presentation with vga connector, any experience?
- how long does the battery last, without dock and with dock?
Thank you for your feedback.
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Yes only if you want to I did because custom tf101 roms with custom kernels far surpassed stock in many aspects with honeycomb with ice cream sandwich there is alot to be done before they reach the same level.
Development is on going and icys is new so cant pick one at the moment to be all round better.
The tf101 and tf101g etc come with Polaris office which is good and reads MS Office docs but there are lots of options on the market comes down to preference.
Never tried it but I know you can wirelessly.
Its different between stock and custom but I can get 18hrs with dock probably 8-10 without depending on usage and settings.
Hope this helps
Also if your keeping the xp netbook as a backup or plan to keep it try windows8 on it you may find abit of a speed boost and its compatible with all programs from xp to the last win7
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
A tablet can not yet replace a laptop IMHO
indiziert said:
I am considering on buying transformer tf101 with dock in a couple days, to replace my windows xp netbook.
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IMHO any Tablet will not replace a WindowsXP notebook completely. When it comes to typing, even a Transformer with a keyboard, is not as good as a laptop with Windows or GNU/Linux. The Android Office applications are designed for the touch screen, and not for a keyboard use, which makes them painful for nominal editing with a mouse and regular keyboard.
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I am planning on using it, on working with documents(words), creating slides(powerpoint) and presentation(connect it to vga projector). [
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That IMHO is a show stopper. You will be severely disappointed.
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Accesing my email. Reading pdf. Using skype on the go(i guess i need the transformers with modem installed)
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Skype on the go is GREAT ! For just portable reading, a Tablet is far far far superior IMHO. BUT if you wish to reply, then a Tablet fails in comparison.
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- user interface from xp to honeycomb (or ics), any simmilarities?
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Its very difficult with the Asus Transformer to stop the update to ICS.
indiziert said:
- should i root the device in order to upgrade to custom rom?
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Someone else needs to answer this. I have not rooted my Tablet.
indiziert said:
- until now i always work my documents with microsoft office, so which office apps would you recommend me ? Since there are several out there.
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Again, IMHO you will be disappointed with the Interface. Don't do this to yourself. Keep your winXP. A Tablet can not compete here.
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- what about presentation with vga connector, any experience?
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The Transformer has an HDMI output, and one can purchase an Asus HDMI to VGA adapter. I have done so and it works reasonably well, with the exception that it chops of the lower part of the Android display when projecting on the 'big screen'. That is a bit annoying, but as long as one keeps the projected material of interest on the top 80% of the screen it is not a problem.
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- how long does the battery last, without dock and with dock?
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It depends on your use. I drove an external projector continuous for about 8 hours and when the Transformer got down to about 20% battery I got nervous and plugged in the keyboard dock (which has a battery). And went for another couple of hours when our 10 hour work day was over. I still had battery power left.
I like my TF101 Transformer. I have ICS installed. I suffer from the reboot problem (with reboots once/day) IF I never switch OFF my transformer. But if I switch OFF my transformer a few times/day (when walking to work, when walking home from work, prior to going to bed at night) then I don't have the reboot problems. Asus are working on the reboot issue.
Good luck in your consideration process.
I think a TF101 with the dock is great for reading and sending emails. Much quicker than booting up a winxp machine, even from hibernation etc.
I use my Tablet primarily for reading pdf's, books, email, calendar and useful for all the available apps like google maps etc. I would definintely not buy one with the mindset for using office on it on the go, because it is no where near the standard of using Microsoft Office and probably won't be for a while. In saying that I use it quite a lot for word typing etc. anywhere there is a decent wifi hotspot as I use splashtop to remotely access my pc/laptop, and thus have access to all the programs on my windows pc, however you need a decent wifi connection for this to work well but when it does work well it is just like running windows on your tablet (if using the dock).
Cheers,
Sent from my Transformer TF101G using Tapatalk
Polaris and Quick Office pro on par (with Polaris i have some saving probs, but it has a nice and quick interface - Quick Office is good with Googledocs and Dropbox, sometimes is has probs reading the right extensions). Third place: documents to go
You can use office for simple creating and editing. Writing a letter is no problem. Using open/libre office on linux/windows with mouse is way faster and easier.
Silverlight doesnt work properly: some things do work, some things don't. You have to find alternatives or 'workarounds'. For my work (teacher among other things) it replaces my netbook (with linux/windows) almost completely.
I love the silence, the coolness, the easy to pick up (still easier than a netbook), the battery (16+ hours with dock - so: no strings attached )
I think in the whole: my productivity jumped 15%+ (email, reporting, calendar, todo, making notes, individual instructions). pe when i write a note (i use Jotterpad HD a lot) i can send it way quicker than on a netbook (email, contactlist is under my finger). The intensity or quantity of communication jumped around 25%.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
indiziert said:
Hi,
My questions are,
- user interface from xp to honeycomb (or ics), any simmilarities?
- should i root the device in order to upgrade to custom rom?
- if that the case which custom rom would you suggest for me?
- until now i always work my documents with microsoft office, so which office apps would you recommend me ? Since there are several out there.
- what about presentation with vga connector, any experience?
- how long does the battery last, without dock and with dock?
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1. they are both... graphical? lol. Well thats pretty much where the similarities start and end
2. I dont think you have to, but Id recommend it to get a different recovery, which has a lot more options than the stock.
3. Youre gonna have to try them out yourself and see which fits you the best.
4. Alternatives to office? Remote Desktop from the tablet to a Windows PC. yeah...
5. Dont know.
6. My battery lasts anywhere between 6 and 10h usage, depending on load. Idle it would last around 5 days (note: IDLE, as in, no usage).
Thats without the dock. I dont have the dock so cant give any information about that.
But in short: A tablet cant really replace a windows machine. Well, when I say that it obviously depends on your needs.
When I get my dock my TF will replace my laptop, as I only use that to browse the web and watch some movies before going to sleep.
But if you are in need of the microsoft office tools, for example, your best option is to buy a 10" netbook instead, or if youre like me and can remote control a windows PC most of the time, then the tablet is a good option again.
"if you wish to reply, then a tablet fails in comparison"
...did i read that right? was that about replying to emails? if so, i would like to wholeheartedly disagree.
Anyway, let me answer the OP in this way, i pretty much replaced my computer with the tablet for the following activities:
* media consumption (watching/downloading movies) little caveat of maximum of 720p. 1080p is hit or miss. I typically do HDMI out for this to my tv. it's excellent with dice player. i recently got a netflix account going. aside from the fact that there's nothing on netflix i really want to stream...the device works very well with the service.
* web browsing - not as quick as computer, but definitely a good experience. i tend to frequent media-heavy sites (flash videos, etc) and it manages to chug along.
* light document editing. again, touch screen is not the same as a mouse, and android, even with a mouse/touchpad, is just not designed to work with the input device. word processing, with the right app, is definitely doable. spreadsheets, and presentations...probably a bit much.
** get yourself a wireless printer (they've gotten cheap over the years) and an app called PrinterShare. very nice combo.
* games...oodles of fun
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Coming from a Win XP netbook, you can expect a lot more performance on the TF with ICS.
Even better with the lastest custom ROMs.
Can't recommend a stable one because they are all still in development fase. Maybe Revolver 4 1.3.1 or ARHD 3.10.
You'll have to take some time to adapt, as Android has touchscreen based UI.
But overall you will have a much improved experience for sure.
18 hrs ?!?
Danzano said:
Similarities none.
Yes only if you want to I did because custom tf101 roms with custom kernels far surpassed stock in many aspects with honeycomb with ice cream sandwich there is alot to be done before they reach the same level.
Development is on going and icys is new so cant pick one at the moment to be all round better.
The tf101 and tf101g etc come with Polaris office which is good and reads MS Office docs but there are lots of options on the market comes down to preference.
Never tried it but I know you can wirelessly.
Its different between stock and custom but I can get 18hrs with dock probably 8-10 without depending on usage and settings.
Hope this helps
Also if your keeping the xp netbook as a backup or plan to keep it try windows8 on it you may find abit of a speed boost and its compatible with all programs from xp to the last win7
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium HD app
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@Danzano, 18 hrs? never imagine that kind of long lasting battery.
i am planning to left my netbook at home and using it at backup, therefor no need the windows 8.
only use the tf101g on the go, without dock as document / email reader and with dock as to create documents.
kinda curious, what about using mouse on tf101?
You might try a search. All these questions have been asked and answered several times.
80% from vga output
oldcpu said:
IMHO any Tablet will not replace a WindowsXP notebook completely. When it comes to typing, even a Transformer with a keyboard, is not as good as a laptop with Windows or GNU/Linux. The Android Office applications are designed for the touch screen, and not for a keyboard use, which makes them painful for nominal editing with a mouse and regular keyboard.
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but it is still possible to use mouse on tf101? any experience(especially in working on document or creating power point)?
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That IMHO is a show stopper. You will be severely disappointed.
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so, you suggest it's a no go for document editing?
oldcpu said:
Skype on the go is GREAT ! For just portable reading, a Tablet is far far far superior IMHO. BUT if you wish to reply, then a Tablet fails in comparison.
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ok, only use skype with bluetooth headset in order to receive calls on the go.
oldcpu said:
Its very difficult with the Asus Transformer to stop the update to ICS.
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i guess i have to rely on the custom ICS rom from XDA dev.
oldcpu said:
Again, IMHO you will be disappointed with the Interface. Don't do this to yourself. Keep your winXP. A Tablet can not compete here.
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i intend to keep it, but not to take it everywhere with the tf101. so i only travel with one device, hopefully it's the tf101. .
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The Transformer has an HDMI output, and one can purchase an Asus HDMI to VGA adapter. I have done so and it works reasonably well, with the exception that it chops of the lower part of the Android display when projecting on the 'big screen'. That is a bit annoying, but as long as one keeps the projected material of interest on the top 80% of the screen it is not a problem.
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80% should be enough. or should i adjust the screen orientation from vertical to horizontal ? is it possible with the dock attached?
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It depends on your use. I drove an external projector continuous for about 8 hours and when the Transformer got down to about 20% battery I got nervous and plugged in the keyboard dock (which has a battery). And went for another couple of hours when our 10 hour work day was over. I still had battery power left.
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ok, i asume up to 8 hour with the docking should be no problem.
oldcpu said:
I like my TF101 Transformer. I have ICS installed. I suffer from the reboot problem (with reboots once/day) IF I never switch OFF my transformer. But if I switch OFF my transformer a few times/day (when walking to work, when walking home from work, prior to going to bed at night) then I don't have the reboot problems. Asus are working on the reboot issue.
Good luck in your consideration process.
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hope asus resolve the problem soon. howeverm your experience with tf give me insightful thinking, how to utilize tf wisely. thank you.
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kitchenfork said:
I think a TF101 with the dock is great for reading and sending emails. Much quicker than booting up a winxp machine, even from hibernation etc.
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yap, reading and sending email is what my future tf should be capable.
kitchenfork said:
I would definintely not buy one with the mindset for using office on it on the go, because it is no where near the standard of using Microsoft Office and probably won't be for a while.
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ok, maybe i can still imagine using it as word editor. but slide presentation power point editor? i still have no clue. any experience creating presentation on tf (with dock and mouse)?
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In saying that I use it quite a lot for word typing etc. anywhere there is a decent wifi hotspot as I use splashtop to remotely access my pc/laptop, and thus have access to all the programs on my windows pc, however you need a decent wifi connection for this to work well but when it does work well it is just like running windows on your tablet (if using the dock).
Cheers,
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it's a nice feature, remotely access my home pc. i'll consider it.
phoranix said:
Polaris and Quick Office pro on par (with Polaris i have some saving probs, but it has a nice and quick interface - Quick Office is good with Googledocs and Dropbox, sometimes is has probs reading the right extensions). Third place: documents to go
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i guess i will these three office first, and consider which one is the best for me.
phoranix said:
You can use office for simple creating and editing. Writing a letter is no problem. Using open/libre office on linux/windows with mouse is way faster and easier.
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i agree with you, but still i want to travel only with my tf101 and left my linux/windows at home.
phoranix said:
Silverlight doesnt work properly: some things do work, some things don't. You have to find alternatives or 'workarounds'. For my work (teacher among other things) it replaces my netbook (with linux/windows) almost completely.
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also using your tf101 for presentation? this is important because i also want to connect it with projector, which mostly in my place use the vga connector. any experience ?
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I love the silence, the coolness, the easy to pick up (still easier than a netbook), the battery (16+ hours with dock - so: no strings attached )
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yap. the long lasting battery alongside with the silence and coolness are several reason why i consider to go for tf101.
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I think in the whole: my productivity jumped 15%+ (email, reporting, calendar, todo, making notes, individual instructions). pe when i write a note (i use Jotterpad HD a lot) i can send it way quicker than on a netbook (email, contactlist is under my finger). The intensity or quantity of communication jumped around 25%.
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i hope the it can raise my productivity level. many thanks to share your experience.
thanks for your experience using tf101 without dock,
Goatshocker said:
1. they are both... graphical? lol. Well thats pretty much where the similarities start and end
2. I dont think you have to, but Id recommend it to get a different recovery, which has a lot more options than the stock.
4. Alternatives to office? Remote Desktop from the tablet to a Windows PC. yeah...
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i'll try to root my tf101. and remotely access the windows pc is not possible, since i merely work only on my netbook. .
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But in short: A tablet cant really replace a windows machine. Well, when I say that it obviously depends on your needs.
When I get my dock my TF will replace my laptop, as I only use that to browse the web and watch some movies before going to sleep.
But if you are in need of the microsoft office tools, for example, your best option is to buy a 10" netbook instead, or if youre like me and can remote control a windows PC most of the time, then the tablet is a good option again.
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. the main reason on considering the tf101 for me is to replace the netbook that i usually travel with. so you are suggesting that tf101 cannot replace my netbook for the heavy ms office work.
i wont suggest you to use android tablet for document editing.. its not that good yet.. you will be frustrated.. simple editing is ok, adding few words.. formatting not good.. document viewing is ok, though not really 100% the same as you see on microsoft office.. varies about 80-99%
other than that, it's cool..
finalhit said:
"if you wish to reply, then a tablet fails in comparison"
...did i read that right? was that about replying to emails? if so, i would like to wholeheartedly disagree.
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i guess @oldcpu try to share the experience, replying to skype message on the go, so not the whole replying to emails. which i cannot image taping the 10' tf101 virtual keyboard on the go. .
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Anyway, let me answer the OP in this way, i pretty much replaced my computer with the tablet for the following activities:
* media consumption (watching/downloading movies) little caveat of maximum of 720p. 1080p is hit or miss. I typically do HDMI out for this to my tv. it's excellent with dice player. i recently got a netflix account going. aside from the fact that there's nothing on netflix i really want to stream...the device works very well with the service.
* web browsing - not as quick as computer, but definitely a good experience. i tend to frequent media-heavy sites (flash videos, etc) and it manages to chug along.
* light document editing. again, touch screen is not the same as a mouse, and android, even with a mouse/touchpad, is just not designed to work with the input device. word processing, with the right app, is definitely doable. spreadsheets, and presentations...probably a bit much.
** get yourself a wireless printer (they've gotten cheap over the years) and an app called PrinterShare. very nice combo.
* games...oodles of fun
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i will try to find the office editor which optimally utilize the tf101 dock keyboard + mouse, but the wireless printer function sound very interesting!
thanks for your opinion.
linuques said:
Coming from a Win XP netbook, you can expect a lot more performance on the TF with ICS.
Even better with the lastest custom ROMs.
Can't recommend a stable one because they are all still in development fase. Maybe Revolver 4 1.3.1 or ARHD 3.10.
You'll have to take some time to adapt, as Android has touchscreen based UI.
But overall you will have a much improved experience for sure.
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thanks for the custom rom hint. but i will definitely take my time to adapt with the android UI. many thanks.
Rumbleweed said:
You might try a search. All these questions have been asked and answered several times.
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thanks for the reminder, i think i post this on the wrong forum section. It should be on the Q & A. .
i hope i can still get various user opinions and experiences, especially on:
* is it possible replace my netbook with tf101, only for the light editing office functionality.
* and experience on using vga connector with tf101 for presentation
and i hope this information to be useful for others,
thanks.
eugoreez said:
i wont suggest you to use android tablet for document editing.. its not that good yet.. you will be frustrated.. simple editing is ok, adding few words.. formatting not good.. document viewing is ok, though not really 100% the same as you see on microsoft office.. varies about 80-99%
other than that, it's cool..
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about 80% and up. that's already good enough, i assume. .
For word processing, I think Kingsoft Office is closest to Microsoft Word, and Kingsoft Office is free to download from Google Play Store.
You definitely will want to use an actual keyboard though, so you can see more of the screen as opposed to having a virtual keyboard clog up a big block of it. You don't have to buy the ASUS keyboard attachment. Any standard Bluetooth keyboard works too, like this one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6mm-Alumini...Signal-For-Smartphone-Tablet-PC-/320879043382
For spreadsheets and presentations, there are solutions out there, but I haven't found anything really great yet.
Hello everyone!
･ Relatively long time member, first time poster.... Just wanna introduce myself as a 1st month Note 10.1 user. I am an entertainment lawyer. As such, does a lot (& i mean lots) of freedom notes in meetings & such. Just retired my 7 year old HP TC1100 once I started using the Note. I'm a digital inker & live on LectureNotes & SNotes all the time. Am also a long-time Palm user, as such Graffiti for Android is my full time HWR 'keyboard'. I fly on Graffiti.
･ Lastly, for annotation on digital ink, Adobe Reader on Android & PDF Annotator on Windows are my friends.
･ Just sharing how I utilizes this excellent device. I believe if you write/ink freehand, Wacom & active digitizer cannot be beat & the Galaxy Note 10.1 is an excellent platform if this your workflow.
･ Comments are always welcome. Cheers everyone.
Me my self a new note 10.1 user after i sold my note 1, i cant tell how pleased i,m with all the new features and stability of note 10.1!!
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I can't even begins to express how delighted I am with the 10.1. Been looking for years for a modern device to replace my trusty Palm TX & Tablet PC. This is it. For pure digital inking noteslate, Note 10.1 fits my requirements perfectly.
Tried going the E-Ink route with Wacom on the Entourage Edge. Loved the concept, but so slooow!
Anyone else on this board using the Note solely for a pen & paper replacement? Like an A4/Legal notepad? Would love to hear your thoughts on going paperless & digital inking usage scenarios. I've been paperless for the last decade.
Um, my main purpose for the Note is a pen & paper replacement, but I do use it for browsing Reddit while pooping quite frequently. I also will use it to watch Netflix (since my desktop uses Linux and Netflix won't work on it without too much hassle). I mostly use it for taking notes in class (grad student) and it works great for that. I used to kind of just fling my notebooks around so I'd have a bunch of notes that I'd never really read over, but since I have synced my notes online, I can always access them to read at any time. It's pretty awesome.
I work in IT and my Note 10.1 has become liek a 3dd arm. All it needs is an ethernet port and it would be perfect. I use my for remote sessions, nowte taking during meetings, and so on. It gets used for hours every day.
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I went paperless quite a few years ago and was using a Dell Latitude XT with OneNote. Had been looking for some time on a better solution. Purchased a Latitude XT3 just 6 months before the note launched. Now it is Note 10.1 and LectureNotes. It was hard to leave OneNote, but I have felt better about it lately. Can always export to pdf for import into OneNote if I ever need to go back. As an account executive, I take notes all day long and need to go back and refrrence them often in the future. Paper notebooks were just a waste for me. Carry my note everywhere now.
Couldn't be happier with this unit and I just bought a MacBook Air recently to do some of the heavier stuff, but this is still my favorite device.
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AndroidAble said:
I went paperless quite a few years ago and was using a Dell Latitude XT with OneNote. Had been looking for some time on a better solution. Purchased a Latitude XT3 just 6 months before the note launched. Now it is Note 10.1 and LectureNotes. It was hard to leave OneNote, but I have felt better about it lately. Can always export to pdf for import into OneNote if I ever need to go back. As an account executive, I take notes all day long and need to go back and refrrence them often in the future. Paper notebooks were just a waste for me. Carry my note everywhere now.
Couldn't be happier with this unit and I just bought a MacBook Air recently to do some of the heavier stuff, but this is still my favorite device.
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You & I, fella. Replaced your Mac with a Lenovo U150 in my place. OneNote 'insert' function is a lifesaver. Thanks for sharing your workflow.
djasli said:
Hello everyone!
･ Relatively long time member, first time poster.... Just wanna introduce myself as a 1st month Note 10.1 user. I am an entertainment lawyer. As such, does a lot (& i mean lots) of freedom notes in meetings & such. Just retired my 7 year old HP TC1100 once I started using the Note. I'm a digital inker & live on LectureNotes & SNotes all the time. Am also a long-time Palm user, as such Graffiti for Android is my full time HWR 'keyboard'. I fly on Graffiti.
･ Lastly, for annotation on digital ink, Adobe Reader on Android & PDF Annotator on Windows are my friends.
･ Just sharing how I utilizes this excellent device. I believe if you write/ink freehand, Wacom & active digitizer cannot be beat & the Galaxy Note 10.1 is an excellent platform if this your workflow.
･ Comments are always welcome. Cheers everyone.
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Ha, I also still have my HP TC100 running win 7. Got it on ebay about 3 years ago. HP was way ahead of its time with this.
I am interested in finding the best pdf view editor and PowerPoint presenter. I have reported on the latter on the forum and trying to work with companies to make the software more useful. Not much movement so far.
For PDF I am experimenting with Adobe, RepliGo Reader, exPDF, OfficeSuite, Polaris and QuickOffice ProHd.
I do not have a report yet but two issues for me are fast rendering of each page (including large files) and inking. For inking, Adobe, RepliGo Reader, exPDF, and QuickOffice ProHd work ok. Adobe is the most basic and the others have choices such as width of line and insert of arrows etc.
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Ha, I also still have my HP TC100 running win 7. Got it on ebay about 3 years ago. HP was way ahead of its time with this.
I am interested in finding the best pdf view editor and PowerPoint presenter. I have reported on the latter on the forum and trying to work with companies to make the software more useful. Not much movement so far.
For PDF I am experimenting with Adobe, RepliGo Reader, exPDF, OfficeSuite, Polaris and QuickOffice ProHd.
I do not have a report yet but two issues for me are fast rendering of each page (including large files) and inking. For inking, Adobe, RepliGo Reader, exPDF, and QuickOffice ProHd work ok. Adobe is the most basic and the others have choices such as width of line and insert of arrows etc.
dave
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Dave,
The TC1100 is/was way ahead of its time. I agree. It is/was a joy to use though mine is still running on stock HP XP Pro SP3.
On the Note, Adore Reader is good enough for me: inking, strikethru, underlined etc. Polaris supports AllShare Cast for PowerPoint, so I bring along the Cast dongle to conference rooms as needed. It is small enough to stash in my briefcase. Having said that, I do missed presenting with full-on TPC with full Office suit like I did on the TC1100.
I find the Note snappy enough for my usage, even on huge PDFs. No issues so far. I load my own PDF templates for notetaking, whiteboarding etc.
One thing that tonk the TC1100 is the Note's battery life. Thin, light, all-day battery life & instant on is why I go for the Note. Of course, Wacom is Note's great advantage over other Android tablets. I can't stress that enough for users like us.
I absolutely agree, i'm on IT and always looking for a good solution to keep my life paperless because meetings note taking and archiving is really important for me. I've tried windows solutions like HP Slate 500 but it's lack of power and awful n-trig digitizer made me to look for android alternatives. I've using note 10.1 for 6 months and is absolutely amazing..
I'm really missing One Note but LectureNotes and using svn repositories for notes sync (OASVN pro client) it's a good and private alternative. I'm using ezPDF and OfficeSuite pro for standard format documents editing.
I would really like to combine my laptop (Sony Z2 for development activities) and note taking device in a single device but still doesn't exists in the market. Sony Vaio Duo 11 is a first approach but still missing important features for my laptop replacement.
cugel said:
I absolutely agree, i'm on IT and always looking for a good solution to keep my life paperless because meetings note taking and archiving is really important for me. I've tried windows solutions like HP Slate 500 but it's lack of power and awful n-trig digitizer made me to look for android alternatives. I've using note 10.1 for 6 months and is absolutely amazing..
I'm really missing One Note but LectureNotes and using svn repositories for notes sync (OASVN pro client) it's a good and private alternative. I'm using ezPDF and OfficeSuite pro for standard format documents editing.
I would really like to combine my laptop (Sony Z2 for development activities) and note taking device in a single device but still doesn't exists in the market. Sony Vaio Duo 11 is a first approach but still missing important features for my laptop replacement.
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On the android side of things, there are some pretty good alternatives (especially if your company is on Google Apps) for note taking and archiving. There's Drive + Docs + Quickoffice for times when you need more complex documents, or evernote for times when you need plain text and files and everything attached in one place. You can also set up some pretty neat automations with a service called ifttt.com which will connect to lots of different accounts and shoot things around according to your instructions (for example: If I'm tagged on facebook, the picture is downloaded to a folder in my Drive account).
-Keri
I agree with this options, i'm using several of them for personal documents and notes but for corporate documentation and meeting notes sometimes is difficult (or directly forbidden) to use this kind of "cloud" infrastructure.
^^
I quite agree. Not in corporate environment, at least in my case. For me, that MicroSD slot is a lifesaver. Do the work I need to do out-of-office; at back to office, attach Note to USB and access data on PC. Also OTG USB to thumbdrive. Works for me. No "cloud" involved. The only cloud service I use is Email.
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I quite agree. Not in corporate environment, at least in my case. For me, that MicroSD slot is a lifesaver. Do the work I need to do out-of-office; at back to office, attach Note to USB and access data on PC. Also OTG USB to thumbdrive. Works for me. No "cloud" involved. The only cloud service I use is Email.
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Ah!
I'm fortunate to work in an environment where cloud computing is not frowned upon (it's actively encouraged), so that tends to be the first thing I think about.
djasli said:
Dave,
The TC1100 is/was way ahead of its time. I agree. It is/was a joy to use though mine is still running on stock HP XP Pro SP3.
On the Note, Adore Reader is good enough for me: inking, strikethru, underlined etc. Polaris supports AllShare Cast for PowerPoint, so I bring along the Cast dongle to conference rooms as needed. It is small enough to stash in my briefcase. Having said that, I do missed presenting with full-on TPC with full Office suit like I did on the TC1100.
I find the Note snappy enough for my usage, even on huge PDFs. No issues so far. I load my own PDF templates for notetaking, whiteboarding etc.
One thing that tonk the TC1100 is the Note's battery life. Thin, light, all-day battery life & instant on is why I go for the Note. Of course, Wacom is Note's great advantage over other Android tablets. I can't stress that enough for users like us.
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Actually polaris does not work correctly with AllShare.
Here is a portion of my review.
"I am on a quest(s) to find the best pdf reader, best PowerPoint presenter etc. I teach at a university and use powerpoint for lectures. I also give ppt lectures to professional groups, other universities, etc. What I am looking for is the best ppt presentation software and the ability to do the presentation remotely. I also do (with my win 7 lenovo tablet) portrait presentations, in which I have configured the table to simulate an overhead system where I can write on in "edit the ppt view" while the systems projects this to the class. So this is the back ground. I see great potential for the Note in many ways, but right now I am disappointed. What I hoping is that I can learn from you about this goal. Below I compare software that I have. I also compare with the Note hooked directly to the projector (hdmi or hdmi-vga) and with the allshare cast dongle. (*hdmi means hdmi or hdmi to vga, both direct to tv or projector). This results were a surprise and part of my current disappointment,
3. Polaris (Ireviewed a few others)
Fairly good for fonts, does not maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection does not work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Fonts generally ok
Color off for text and shapes, but better than office suite pro.
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
Annotation works
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Good display resolution.
Short time to load big files.
Does not work similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle.
There are three display choices, primary monitor, duel monitor, controller and note. The first two work the same, bottom bar not hidden. The controller and not setting hides the bottom bar and gives the biggest projected picture (seems to be the biggest and best of all the I have tried). Works great with direct. With the allshare dongle, the first slide is fine. When the second slide comes up, the first slide does not disappear and for the second slide it only show in about ¾ of the screen in the upper left so you do not see the full slide. The rest of the screen is the first slide. This stays the same for the rest of the slides.
Does not work in profile."
First of all, is this not your expereince?
Second, I have been trying ot work with Polaris to see what is going on. Have had some success with email exchanges. They said that if the verion of Polaris is 4.0.5002.30 version, then it should work. I told them my version number is 4.05002.80, which is higher and it does not work correctly. They asked on Sunday (March 10) for a screenshot of the verison number. I sent that but have not heard back. ( i have emailed them and resent the screenshot, but no emails so far.
dave
Dave,
The version on mine is 4.0 5002.62-Fj03 & it works beautifully. Well for my usage. Set up the Cast, load ppt, hit slideshow & I'm set for drawing, annotate etc. Granted my usage is basic, with no Powerpoint slide creation at all (That's done by my PA back at office). Maybe you need more. A Windows TPC with Office suite works better for you maybe? As far as I can figure, there's no Office-compatible apps for Android. At least not yet.
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Dave,
The version on mine is 4.0 5002.62-Fj03 & it works beautifully. Well for my usage. Set up the Cast, load ppt, hit slideshow & I'm set for drawing, annotate etc. Granted my usage is basic, with no Powerpoint slide creation at all (That's done by my PA back at office). Maybe you need more. A Windows TPC with Office suite works better for you maybe? As far as I can figure, there's no Office-compatible apps for Android. At least not yet.
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Interesting that you have a different version and it is a lower number. When did you get your note. I wish I could see more of how this works for you.
But some questions
1. do you get the choice of how to do the slide show? The three choices I mention in my post.
2 Also I just want to make clear that when you project, that the bottom bar hides dn the only think you see on the screen is the ptt presentation.
I would like to take this information to Polaris and to Samsung
As for windows computers with ppt for presentations, yes I use these, but to be able to use the Note with Allshare opens up many possibilities and I wan to work to making it so. It is interesting that if you were to take all of the good features from the other android ppt programs ( I think I reviewed 4 or 5) and combine them, you would almost have a windows ppt like experience.
Thanks!
dave
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Interesting that you have a different version and it is a lower number. When did you get your note. I wish I could see more of how this works for you.
- I got mine on 26th Feb this year. N8020 with Jelly Bean already installed out the box.
But some questions
1. do you get the choice of how to do the slide show? The three choices I mention in my post.
- Alas, no. I do not get any of those choices. Just straight up mirroring.
2 Also I just want to make clear that when you project, that the bottom bar hides dn the only think you see on the screen is the ptt presentation.
I would like to take this information to Polaris and to Samsung
- Nope. Wish it does, but no.
As for windows computers with ppt for presentations, yes I use these, but to be able to use the Note with Allshare opens up many possibilities and I wan to work to making it so. It is interesting that if you were to take all of the good features from the other android ppt programs ( I think I reviewed 4 or 5) and combine them, you would almost have a windows ppt like experience.
Thanks!
- Yeah. Fully agree. Will be grand if it can do full Office presentation. Hopefully that day will come soon.
dave
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I'm still new on this board to insert attachments.
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Well this is what I thought might be the case. Was hopeful. Interesting that you got yours after mine and with Jelly Bean, but an older version of Polaris. Got mine months ago with ICS.
So I think that Polaris knew of a problem and then produced the next version (with the three display choices) to solve it. One of those choices as I pointed out hides the bar and only displays the ppt. But it does not work and Polaris now has not responded for almost a week. So that could mean 1) they are working on it, or 2) they do not care and are ignoring it. I hope #1.
A problem is that we cannot update Polaris from PlayStore if they do upgrade the software. It is all up to Samsung and thus complex. So my hopes are rather dim at this point and a response from Polaris would be encouraging..
dave
Your comments got me thinking. So while at work today, I did a test:
･ RDP to my office pc and AllShare Cast the Note to the projected. Walla! Full Office ppt with all the trappings. Bit laggy connection but not discernable much.
･ The Note's Airview mode helps. Perhaps you can try this too.
･ Next up, I'm gonna try setup my own personal network and try the experiment at one of my client's conference room, who happens to be my college buddy.
Hmmm, this is getting interesting. Thanks for making this tired old brain working again.....
I'm sad for those who are thinking of buying this tablet or those who just recently have and read all the negative things about this amazing tablet. Let's all share the things you love most about this awesome device.
I for one haven't had nearly as many issues as some have posted on xda or here. I think most are too picky or just don't know how to use it.
I love my tablet because it has one of the best screens available, it's snappy, I haven't experience lag with the right settings. I love the spen features, the size is perfect, the over all build is good to me.
With everything this device has to offer and how customizable it can be and even more so if you root or find the right apps the options are almost endless.
I look forward to reading what you all love most about your experience. Let's let's those on the edge about buying or keeping the Note 10.1 2014 edition know its a great buy worth the money!
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The S Pen is a god. I haven't used a piece of paper at work since August 2012. I am entirely digital with my notes and diagrams. This is something that just seemed impossible before the S Pen hit the tablet scene regardless of how much I wanted to get away from paper. That combination of a light portable 10" 16:10 Note tablet series with the S Pen is nearly unbeatable at the moment. It is the sweet spot for me.
How's that for positive?
My point being is with out knowledge of what your options are your going to be dissatisfied. Read up before complaining or ask us
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The S Pen is a god. I haven't used a piece of paper at work since August 2012. I am entirely digital with my notes and diagrams. This is something that just seemed impossible before the S Pen hit the tablet scene regardless of how much I wanted to get away from paper. That combination of a light portable 10" 16:10 Note tablet series with the S Pen is nearly unbeatable at the moment. It is the sweet spot for me.
How's that for positive?
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Stocklone:
Care to shed any light on your workflow. I'm interested in what apps you use to take your notes, how you archive them, how you search for info at a later date, are they in a format where you can access them across platforms (PC, etc).
I've been wanting to go completely digital with my notes but still haven't been able to come up with a truly workable system.
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Stocklone:
Care to shed any light on your workflow. I'm interested in what apps you use to take your notes, how you archive them, how you search for info at a later date, are they in a format where you can access them across platforms (PC, etc).
I've been wanting to go completely digital with my notes but still haven't been able to come up with a truly workable system.
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I do everything through Lecture Notes currently. I used to do everything through Quill but I found Lecture Notes to be perfect for note taking since it allows for folders as well as notebooks. So I can jump very quickly to the notes I need for the current project I'm working on where everything is organized at the location I'm working at for a given project and the year and month if it was something very regular like weekly team meetings. That structure is good enough for me for retrieving whatever I'm looking for. I know Quill has tags if you want to filter individual pages in a given book but the GUI is incredibly slow once you have a lot of notebooks.
My folder hierarchy is typically Location\Building\Project\(Year\Month) for Lecture Notes. That allows me to split things up enough that I'm okay with combing through my notes from that point out. I do date each entry in my notes than highlight it in yellow so I can quickly find notes for a given day. I'm pretty sure LN offers some kind of tagging system if you wanted to make things searchable.
With Quill I backed up old notes to PDF and made a copy on my microSD and my notebook. I actually haven't archived anything yet with Lecture Notes but I know it can export to PDF so I will probably do that. Quill actually offers syncing notes between devices but I never used it. Quill also had automatic backing up to the microSD card.
I don't ever really access my notes on a PC. Due to computer restrictions where I work, my tablet pretty much has to remain an island unto its self while I am at work. If I wanted to make them accessible I would probably sync the PDF files with Dropbox I imagine.
I think Quill has the prettiest writing but Lecture Notes once you set it up is far more functional.
My system would probably fall apart if I wasn't working in an environment of multiple unrelated ever changing projects. If I only worked one project as my entire job, tagging pages would probably be much more important.
For future reference, a setup where you really don't have to think about anything for syncing between devices and backing up, OneNote with Office 2013 on a Surface Pro 2 is probably as simple as you are going to get. That's what my wife uses.
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RussellEstridge25 said:
My point being is with out knowledge of what your options are your going to be dissatisfied. Read up before complaining or ask us
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I personally hate this tablet without root. Once I had root, this tablet became an absolute joy to use. I think rooting would be the best advice I could give to a new user that might be frustrated with their Note. Then nearly anything that pisses you off can be fixed in way or another.
Finding the right 3rd party apps is also crucial. I think that if you assume what Samsung provides is the end all of what works with the S Pen, you are really limiting yourself. Once you start branching out you see all the possibilities of the S Pen you can have a much better idea of how useful it is. Also, many times you have to turn on S Pen support for an app such as drawing and note taking apps. Until then it treats the pen like a finger. And sometimes some random 3rd party app may actually do something better than all the big companies with similar apps. Research seriously pays off with this tablet.
A not so super obvious benefit of the S Pen is gaming. I don't know how anybody plays R-Type with their finger when you have all those little enemies flying around the screen from every angle. The S Pen is a huge advantage there. Even casual games like Fruit Ninja, I can play way better with an S Pen because of the higher accuracy and less obstructed vision.
Stocklone said:
I do everything through Lecture Notes currently. I used to do everything through Quill but I found Lecture Notes to be perfect for note taking since it allows for folders as well as notebooks. So I can jump very quickly to the notes I need for the current project I'm working on where everything is organized at the location I'm working at for a given project and the year and month if it was something very regular like weekly team meetings. That structure is good enough for me for retrieving whatever I'm looking for. I know Quill has tags if you want to filter individual pages in a given book but the GUI is incredibly slow once you have a lot of notebooks.
My folder hierarchy is typically Location\Building\Project\(Year\Month) for Lecture Notes. That allows me to split things up enough that I'm okay with combing through my notes from that point out. I do date each entry in my notes than highlight it in yellow so I can quickly find notes for a given day. I'm pretty sure LN offers some kind of tagging system if you wanted to make things searchable.
With Quill I backed up old notes to PDF and made a copy on my microSD and my notebook. I actually haven't archived anything yet with Lecture Notes but I know it can export to PDF so I will probably do that. Quill actually offers syncing notes between devices but I never used it. Quill also had automatic backing up to the microSD card.
I don't ever really access my notes on a PC. Due to computer restrictions where I work, my tablet pretty much has to remain an island unto its self while I am at work. If I wanted to make them accessible I would probably sync the PDF files with Dropbox I imagine.
I think Quill has the prettiest writing but Lecture Notes once you set it up is far more functional.
My system would probably fall apart if I wasn't working in an environment of multiple unrelated ever changing projects. If I only worked one project as my entire job, tagging pages would probably be much more important.
For future reference, a setup where you really don't have to think about anything for syncing between devices and backing up, OneNote with Office 2013 on a Surface Pro 2 is probably as simple as you are going to get. That's what my wife uses.
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I personally hate this tablet without root. Once I had root, this tablet became an absolute joy to use. I think rooting would be the best advice I could give to a new user that might be frustrated with their Note. Then nearly anything that pisses you off can be fixed in way or another.
Finding the right 3rd party apps is also crucial. I think that if you assume what Samsung provides is the end all of what works with the S Pen, you are really limiting yourself. Once you start branching out you see all the possibilities of the S Pen you can have a much better idea of how useful it is. Also, many times you have to turn on S Pen support for an app such as drawing and note taking apps. Until then it treats the pen like a finger. And sometimes some random 3rd party app may actually do something better than all the big companies with similar apps. Research seriously pays off with this tablet.
A not so super obvious benefit of the S Pen is gaming. I don't know how anybody plays R-Type with their finger when you have all those little enemies flying around the screen from every angle. The S Pen is a huge advantage there. Even casual games like Fruit Ninja, I can play way better with an S Pen because of the higher accuracy and less obstructed vision.
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Thanks for the input. Care to share what apps you downloaded for the spen and how you turned on spen instead of having it act as a finger? Very interesting.
Great point about using the pen for gaming!
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Stocklone said:
I do everything through Lecture Notes currently. I used to do everything through Quill but I found Lecture Notes to be perfect for note taking since it allows for folders as well as notebooks. So I can jump very quickly to the notes I need for the current project I'm working on where everything is organized at the location I'm working at for a given project and the year and month if it was something very regular like weekly team meetings. That structure is good enough for me for retrieving whatever I'm looking for. I know Quill has tags if you want to filter individual pages in a given book but the GUI is incredibly slow once you have a lot of notebooks.
My folder hierarchy is typically Location\Building\Project\(Year\Month) for Lecture Notes. That allows me to split things up enough that I'm okay with combing through my notes from that point out. I do date each entry in my notes than highlight it in yellow so I can quickly find notes for a given day. I'm pretty sure LN offers some kind of tagging system if you wanted to make things searchable.
With Quill I backed up old notes to PDF and made a copy on my microSD and my notebook. I actually haven't archived anything yet with Lecture Notes but I know it can export to PDF so I will probably do that. Quill actually offers syncing notes between devices but I never used it. Quill also had automatic backing up to the microSD card.
I don't ever really access my notes on a PC. Due to computer restrictions where I work, my tablet pretty much has to remain an island unto its self while I am at work. If I wanted to make them accessible I would probably sync the PDF files with Dropbox I imagine.
I think Quill has the prettiest writing but Lecture Notes once you set it up is far more functional.
My system would probably fall apart if I wasn't working in an environment of multiple unrelated ever changing projects. If I only worked one project as my entire job, tagging pages would probably be much more important.
For future reference, a setup where you really don't have to think about anything for syncing between devices and backing up, OneNote with Office 2013 on a Surface Pro 2 is probably as simple as you are going to get. That's what my wife uses.
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I personally hate this tablet without root. Once I had root, this tablet became an absolute joy to use. I think rooting would be the best advice I could give to a new user that might be frustrated with their Note. Then nearly anything that pisses you off can be fixed in way or another.
Finding the right 3rd party apps is also crucial. I think that if you assume what Samsung provides is the end all of what works with the S Pen, you are really limiting yourself. Once you start branching out you see all the possibilities of the S Pen you can have a much better idea of how useful it is. Also, many times you have to turn on S Pen support for an app such as drawing and note taking apps. Until then it treats the pen like a finger. And sometimes some random 3rd party app may actually do something better than all the big companies with similar apps. Research seriously pays off with this tablet.
A not so super obvious benefit of the S Pen is gaming. I don't know how anybody plays R-Type with their finger when you have all those little enemies flying around the screen from every angle. The S Pen is a huge advantage there. Even casual games like Fruit Ninja, I can play way better with an S Pen because of the higher accuracy and less obstructed vision.
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I also use Lecture Notes for work. Besides the notebooks and folders, you can use the index page function to easily find a particular part of a notebook later. I typically index more important meetings within a project notebook to easily reference later. For me this has worked so much better than the many separate paper project notebooks I used to have. I often remember a reference mentioned in a meeting but not the exact value. With my old paper system i would rarely find it. With the indexing in Lecture Notes, it's no trouble at all.
I prefer the Note 8 at work, because the size makes it easier to keep with me all the time. So far I use the Note 10 at home only, but I do backup my Note 8 notes to Dropbox and sync them to my Note 10 with Dropsync so I can pick up the bigger tablet if I ever needed to with all my notes in it already. I used to take notes on an Ipad. The Spen+Lecture Notes combination is a million times better.
I also use the widget or shortcut function of Lecture Notes to place 3 shortcuts on my main screen;
The main notebook of the project I work on for quick access, a notebook I call "to do list", and a blank new notebook in case of an unexpected new topic which I can later rename and organize as needed. All other notebooks and folders I access the normal way. But these shortcuts make it easy to jump between my most used notebooks, and I'm always ready for new topics with an empty notebook.
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l haven't rooted yet. What are the 3rd party apps you use after root. Also how hard is it to Unroot, say when an update Comes out.
l'm just curious how others use their tablets. I use S note. I have purchased lecture notes, but I haunt figured out how to set it up to a way I'm satisfied with. So what are some advantages to rooting?
jherring002 said:
l haven't rooted yet. What are the 3rd party apps you use after root. Also how hard is it to Unroot, say when an update Comes out.
l'm just curious how others use their tablets. I use S note. I have purchased lecture notes, but I haunt figured out how to set it up to a way I'm satisfied with. So what are some advantages to rooting?
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turn on the filter (sativ something filter, can't quite remember. I use it at 7), that is the key to a good writing. Lecturenotes is good, but complicated.
jherring002 said:
l haven't rooted yet. What are the 3rd party apps you use after root. Also how hard is it to Unroot, say when an update Comes out.
l'm just curious how others use their tablets. I use S note. I have purchased lecture notes, but I haunt figured out how to set it up to a way I'm satisfied with. So what are some advantages to rooting?
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Ad away='s no more ads. Titanium back up to get rid of bloat ware or freeze apps. Wanam xposed apps to change the framework and completely customize it. Custom recovery to be able to back up and restore. I just use kies or Odin to manually update. Works perfectly.
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I also have the Note 8 & 10.1. The Note 8 is my main tablet, especially for work, due to its size. The Note 10.1 is mainly used for inventory, the larger screen.
Via my Note 3
S-Pen is a great tool. I use it frequently in almost everything (except games). Also there is plenty of useful applications that is specific to Samsung like S-Note, Ez-pdf reader, Moon reader, Office suite Pro, Digital Calculator (I don`t remember the exact name) and a lot of apps. Another feature which is useful to me which is Multi window apps (requires a rooted device).
But there is performance difference between LTE and 3G devices due to processor difference.
But finally I`m happy with this tablet.
Since I have gotten my Note 10.1, I rarely now use my Nexus 7 2013. I like the screen real estate and as crazy as it sounds, I like the TWZ apps (calendar, S Note, to name a few). I take sermon notes while in church and compared to my iPad 3, it's a gem. I use OfficeSuite 7 with the keyboard to keep up, but for everything else, normal speed writing, I use the S Pen. It's the biggest reason I got the tablet to start with. I played with the Tab Pro 10.1 in BB this weekend and it flies with KK, but I need my S-Pen, so hopefully we get KK soon.
Turn Off Wifi During Sleep -> Better Battery than iPad
Hi,
For those who complains about battery life sucks, here is one tip: turn off wifi during sleep.
I just went to the Settings -> Connection -> Wifi and enable that. Now my tablet battery is a lot longer than my iPad 2.
Not that I use my Note 10.1 for game or any CPU hungry tasks.
Positives of this tablets...
I love it!
Best for remote services like Splashtop. This tab had saved my butt many days at work where my laptop cannot handle certain files. I would use my powerful desktop at home to pull through the loading, then work from there.
This is also a really light weight tablet. Easily one of the more comfortable ones to use, thought it could be a little more balanced like the tablet Z from Sony.
It is impressive in a business scenario. When I use it to show or modify data with the S Pen, I get many Ooouu and Ahhh from older folks. It is a great thing, if you do any of that sort of business. These impressions stick to people, especially if it's their first time seeing a Note product.
Im also in love with how familiar it is to many people. This is debatable, but my family members, friends, and sometimes strangers could pick this tab up, and know how to use it right off the bat. (especially people with samsung phones) Something Android tabs are lacking just a few years ago. Nowadays, the Nexus 7 is the only other friendly tablet I could think of, though it lacks many many out of the box features like the Note.
mmmmm positive things
glad to have s-pen....
high resolution, maybe not for video but for drawing it fits
what else?... ok let's see... with this device you:
can download torrents with aTorrent...
can edit pictures with Adobe PS Touch...
can draw with Autodesk Sketchbook
can take notes with Lecture Notes (even record video)
can draw vectors with Infinite Design
can make animations with Animation Studio or FlipaClap (i really like the last one)
can add effects to pictures with Handy Photo, SnapSeed, Pixlr Express or Repix
can view Full HD videos with MX Player (they look really small with this screen resolution)
can edit PDF files with PDF Max
can scan documents to PDF with CamScanner
can edit office documents with Kingsoft Office or OfficeSuite
can create diagrams with TouchDraw
can switch from one app to another with Switchr
can decompress or compress files with ZArchiver
can edit videos or adding effects with VideoPad
can create isometric pixel art with IsoPix
can view Flash videos with internet browser
can create pixel like 3d images with Fumotrim
can share video or audio content and sync with TV
can connect to remote desktop with RD Client, SplashTop ot Team Viewer
can control tv through wifi with Unified Remote Control
can transfer content with SuperBeam or WifiDirect
can connect to TV with MHL adapter
can use multiwindow feature (with root you can run 4 "popup window" apps)
even better, you can encode video but believe me, i will take forever and you will burn your note...
and many things i can't remember right now...
fantasmanegro said:
mmmmm positive things
glad to have s-pen....
high resolution, maybe not for video but for drawing it fits
what else?... ok let's see... with this device you:
can download torrents with aTorrent...
can edit pictures with Adobe PS Touch...
can draw with Autodesk Sketchbook
can take notes with Lecture Notes (even record video)
can draw vectors with Infinite Design
can make animations with Animation Studio or FlipaClap (i really like the last one)
can add effects to pictures with Handy Photo, SnapSeed, Pixlr Express or Repix
can view Full HD videos with MX Player (they look really small with this screen resolution)
can edit PDF files with PDF Max
can scan documents to PDF with CamScanner
can edit office documents with Kingsoft Office or OfficeSuite
can create diagrams with TouchDraw
can switch from one app to another with Switchr
can decompress or compress files with ZArchiver
can edit videos or adding effects with VideoPad
can create isometric pixel art with IsoPix
can view Flash videos with internet browser
can create pixel like 3d images with Fumotrim
can share video or audio content and sync with TV
can connect to remote desktop with RD Client, SplashTop ot Team Viewer
can control tv through wifi with Unified Remote Control
can transfer content with SuperBeam or WifiDirect
can connect to TV with MHL adapter
can use multiwindow feature (with root you can run 4 "popup window" apps)
even better, you can encode video but believe me, i will take forever and you will burn your note...
and many things i can't remember right now...
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....and now hancom office!!!!!!!!! ))))
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fantasmanegro said:
mmmmm positive things
glad to have s-pen....
high resolution, maybe not for video but for drawing it fits
what else?... ok let's see... with this device you:
can download torrents with aTorrent...
can edit pictures with Adobe PS Touch...
can draw with Autodesk Sketchbook
can take notes with Lecture Notes (even record video)
can draw vectors with Infinite Design
can make animations with Animation Studio or FlipaClap (i really like the last one)
can add effects to pictures with Handy Photo, SnapSeed, Pixlr Express or Repix
can view Full HD videos with MX Player (they look really small with this screen resolution)
can edit PDF files with PDF Max
can scan documents to PDF with CamScanner
can edit office documents with Kingsoft Office or OfficeSuite
can create diagrams with TouchDraw
can switch from one app to another with Switchr
can decompress or compress files with ZArchiver
can edit videos or adding effects with VideoPad
can create isometric pixel art with IsoPix
can view Flash videos with internet browser
can create pixel like 3d images with Fumotrim
can share video or audio content and sync with TV
can connect to remote desktop with RD Client, SplashTop ot Team Viewer
can control tv through wifi with Unified Remote Control
can transfer content with SuperBeam or WifiDirect
can connect to TV with MHL adapter
can use multiwindow feature (with root you can run 4 "popup window" apps)
even better, you can encode video but believe me, i will take forever and you will burn your note...
and many things i can't remember right now...
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Any full hd video should scale to the screen very well I have no idea why they would look small.....but yes to all of the above
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I love this tablet too
RussellEstridge25 said:
I'm sad for those who are thinking of buying this tablet or those who just recently have and read all the negative things about this amazing tablet. Let's all share the things you love most about this awesome device.
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You will never win this war against the doomsayer. They will find always something to blame this great tablet.
RussellEstridge25 said:
I for one haven't had nearly as many issues as some have posted on xda or here.
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Same for me. And you can came with the argument and the doomsayer still exists that their problem is a general problem of the tablet.
RussellEstridge25 said:
I love my tablet because [...]
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+1
RussellEstridge25 said:
I look forward to reading what you all love most about your experience.
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Everything. Not only it replace my other (older) tablets but also my gsm for my daily use. I use my HTC One (so you see how high the level staff is) now only for phone calls and text messaging. All the rest I do now with my Note.
So, what I love? Touchwiz *g* Yes, I love it. And if we got the Magazine UX and other changes from the Pro, I will love it more. Because Samsung made a tablet interface out of it. Google has here still to learn that tablets are not bigger phones.
I also love the default apps from Samsung. They have many add-ons which the replacements are still missing. So, I use the default browser, the default launcher and so on.
What I do at the end with this great tablet:
- internet surfing
- social virtual life (facebook, twitter, linkedIn, Google+, Skype...)
- drawing and painting (and I didn't switch any longer to my desktop to finish it)
- taking notes
- prepare shopping
- listen music
- watch full HD films (on the Note or from the intranet or internet)
- software development
- remove to desktop pc (for small tasks)
- project films, photos to TV
- reading books
- reading comics
- use this forum