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Epic video camera = junk.

First of all, id just like to say, i love my epic, however.... i had it for almost a month and today i tried the video camera which is supposed to be good... right? Well unless im doing something wrong, it looks like crap. If anyone is moving fast it has a HUGE trail behind them. Is there something i can do to fix this issue? i have everything on max settings.

endurance1 said:
First of all, id just like to say, i love my epic, however.... i had it for almost a month and today i tried the video camera which is supposed to be good... right? Well unless im doing something wrong, it looks like crap. If anyone is moving fast it has a HUGE trail behind them. Is there something i can do to fix this issue? i have everything on max settings.
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I haven't tweaked any settings and it's perfectly fine. Try deleting the Data under Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Camera > 'Clear Data'.
See if it works better that way. My playback is incredibly high quality and I don't touch any settings.

Strange I've taken quite a few vids with my Epic and never had that issue. In fact they generally turn out quite well.

do this: wave your hand infront of it and see if you can see the tracers.... thats waht im talking about... so for instance, if i record someone breakdancing or something else that they are moving fast, its ALL tracers and looks terrible. P.S. that didnt work

If u updated your phone yesterday to froyo that is what's causing it

kryptoniteman said:
If u updated your phone yesterday to froyo that is what's causing it
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for real? wtf... yeah im running the eb13 ext4 with the OC kernal... so how would i go about fixing this? downgrading back to dk18?

Yeap people are downgrading back to DK18 but I like froyo too much so I will wait for the fix

Yup, I would say screw that, and just downgrade back to Froyo dk28, it's what I have and until I see some decent roms with EB13 I will probably stick with DK28 until, I was OC'd with Genocide too, but that causing my phone to freeze sporatically,.
So I say stick with a dk rom.

There is absolutely no reason to"upgrade" to eb13 until there are some good custom roms. I'm running viper trinity with genocide kernel and my phone flies with no issues whatsoever. Why would I want to"upgrade" to a stock rom with evidently lots of bugs?
I say hold off, let these great devs work their magic, and then flash a true "upgrade."
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Which camera App?
I have found the camera on the Epic to be very inconsistent. Sometimes the photos look great, rivaling a good point-n-shoot. But, other times, it's just not sharp. It doesn't help that the lens sticks out and seems to get dirty just from holding the camera.
Has anyone found a better camera app?

I was able to record a basketball game...and even zoomed in all the way and out while recrding while they were running and there was absolutely NO blur. It was buttery smooth.
Infact, whenever someone watches a video on my phone, they ALL say "...wow....your phone takes really clear vids!"
Unfortunately tho, I don't see that being the case anymore if I take a video in lowlight
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It's not junk. It's the EB13 ROM causing problems. I'm still on DK28 and my cam is perfect....although a little grainy in low light.

The irony is that Samsung makes cameras, so one would think this is an area where they'd have an edge over HTC...

Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.

lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Well mines oesnt fail at 720p so maybe?
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lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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I remember a thread about that issue in dk28.

lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Yes you are
10 chr
Epic 4g

lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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Mine just failed in 43 seconds, and I had just said, "nope not mine- past 30 sec... dammit wtf?" LOL
Mine was Odined to DI18, cwm2.5.5, flashed deodexed EB13 zip...

lehaman310 said:
Am I the only one that has 720p recordings fail every time within the first 30 seconds.
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evsnova74 said:
Mine just failed in 43 seconds, and I had just said, "nope not mine- past 30 sec... dammit wtf?" LOL
Mine was Odined to DI18, cwm2.5.5, flashed deodexed EB13 zip...
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It's the speed of the micro SD. Get a class 6 and it wont happen anymore.

Lag on preview
Are you looking at the resultant videos, or the screen when you're taking the movies? Because during video the screen is definitely laggy. As for the motion artifacting, well, you're not going to be able to catch even moderately high speed activities with a sensor the size of the Epic's in low light. That's because it looks like the Epic doesn't adjust the ISO when it gets dark, it just increases exposure time for each frame. This keeps the images from being terribly grainy, but also makes everything look like slomo watercolors when it gets dark enough. If you want good motion capture in low light situations, you're going to have to get something with a larger sensor. Actually, I'm surprised how nice the epic's movies look. I'm the first one to criticize samsung, but they did pretty well with the limited sensor size.

EB13 Lowlight Camera solution?

Theres alot of chatter on this. This is the deal breaker for some of us so please post if there is a solution at all on any version of froyo. Some say the camera blur is on all the leaks and the final EB13. Is that true?

I just tested it...
My camera was extremely unusable just now. But yesterday, I was able to record a basketball game perfectly indoors.
This was not present in dk28.
Dk28 actually had great lowlight useability... I recorded a few videos out in the park around midnight without flash and they were easily viewable. Flash was just a plus.
But now seeing this problem I might actually go back to dk28...I realllllly don't want to, but ima need the camera to work in low light...
I thought it was just recording laggy, but the playback was exactly the same
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I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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You know... I thought it was just me aswell. I reflashed the samsung tool again. After a full boot up, launched camera. It was actually better but not eclair better, then I did the prl update and profile update, reboot and now its it worse! This is actualy good news. Meaning that its just a software bug.

squshy 7 said:
I wonder if anybodys tried it with the OC kernel...it could possibly make up for the lag that is present. I don't think there will be a solution here on xda anyone soon, IMHO. This all seems to be a camera driver issue as I believe samsung changed the inherent behavior of the camera.
but this is all speculation of course
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oh yeah. I used 1.2 genocide. No help, just as blurry.

inconsistent
The camera on the Epic has been inconsistent even before upgrading to Android 2.2. Sometimes the images rival a good point-n-shoot but only when there is plenty of light. The fact that the camera sticks out and collects smudges just from holding the phone does not help.
I have had better luck playing with the ISO and other settings. Even just leaving the camera in Macro seems to produce better results.
Is there a better camera app?

I wonder if anyone's had any luck installing the eclair camera app?
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I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.

Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Is there a way to change it t 3gp? I don't think a lot of texting 0hones can handle mp4 lol
And has anyon tried a 3rd party camera app?
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I don't think a 3rd party app will make a difference as far as quality. The drivers are the issue.

R0YB0T said:
I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.

R0YB0T said:
I switched back to 2.1 because of it using odin. 2.2 saves video in mp4 format, 2.1 saves video in 3gp. That may have something to do with it.
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I dont think do. Maybe the outcome of the video should be effected but not the live feed on the screen. I haven't tried the apk from eclair, but I have tried the dk28 on eclair. It FC.

ZenInsight said:
It is NOT a 3GP issue. I am running DK28 Quantum ROM and there are NO camera issues at all. I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.

abduljaffar said:
ill try that rom in about 3 hours. I need to see if its true since aloe of people have said that this camera blue is on ALL froyos.
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You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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mattallica76 said:
You may have to take into account that a couple of these dk28 roms have some pretty nice enhancements and tweaks that might make the issue seem less severe.
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I was running the stock DK28 rom downloaded from Google when it was first leaked and I had zero problems with the camera.
I own a pretty dimly lit store, and I took several videos in there with the phone that I posted to YouTube showing off our products, with DK28. Now with EB13, the camera is useless in the same store with the same light.
This was not a problem with DK28. It's not Froyo. It's EB13 that's the problem.

ZenInsight said:
I'm not going to EB13 until there is a fix for this.
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Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.

slybarman said:
Considering it took them 6 months to crank out this mess, you could be waiting an eternity for something better.
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thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.

abduljaffar said:
thats my fear aswell. But sprint and samsung just pulled the update from their sites. So that means they do know of these issues anf realize it has to be pulled and fixed. But comparing eclair to froyo camera performance is night and day. Pretty much useless at low light. I need low light. But I will never buy htc just because they update faster. Htc has their own awful hardware problens like under performing gpu and cpu.
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Hopefully enough people alert them to the camera and graphics issues. I think right now they are only worried about peoples sd card data being randomly deleted.

Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light

boominz28 said:
Just got off phone with advanced tech support for sprint talking to them about the updates, and i said you know why im calling she said yes, I said why am i calling she said because of the low light issue and the update, I said exactly. she said and I quote " samsung is aware of the issue and the solution they have said will fix it is to do a master reset"
I for one find this irrittating as a solution. im not doing it just cuz my camera cant see low light
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how u do a master reset? U mean the 768 dial code? Or odin flash?

[BUG] Multitouch lost after 12 seconds

A guy from another forum pointed me to this bug.
It starts when you hold two fingers in the screen for more than 12 seconds. Then the multitouch is lost. After a few seconds it fixes itself.
Has anyone noticed this?. Is there any fix or workaround?.
This is terrible for gaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQblG7OxABk

omg same problem here.

i noticed it last night! also noticed video recording does not autofocus...with adeo

Ronaldo_9 said:
i noticed it last night! also noticed video recording does not autofocus...with adeo
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ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?

Techcruncher said:
ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?
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Right, there are a lot of stand alone cameras that don't have that feature

Yes i noticed this when playing the n64 emulator, i just commented in one of the threads about it lol.
Apparently we have the same digitizer as the Nexus S. Mayb we can get the driver from it?

Techcruncher said:
ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?
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My Evo does.
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OneStepAhead said:
My Evo does.
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I think the point was, most cameras on phones do not have this feature and the Atrix did not have the feature out of the box.

IPhone does as well.
Anyway just tested this the bug is indeed real. This phone just has way too many issues.
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live4nyy said:
I think the point was, most cameras on phones do not have this feature and the Atrix did not have the feature out of the box.
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...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware

A bit off topic but I don't see how the nokia N8 has autofocus considering it has a "full focus" camera, aka fixed focus.
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...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware
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Ronaldo_9 said:
...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware
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Right, right. I might have been thinking about touch-to-focus...

dinan said:
A bit off topic but I don't see how the nokia N8 has autofocus considering it has a "full focus" camera, aka fixed focus.
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Off topic... but full focus isnt the same as fixed focus. N8 has auto focus and C7, E7 has fixed focus
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I noticed this playing Dungeon Defenders before. Kind of a pain...waiting for some kind of hack/patch

hotleadsingerguy said:
I noticed this playing Dungeon Defenders before. Kind of a pain...waiting for some kind of hack/patch
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Same here it hasn't been that bad just my little guy would stop for a sec and I would have to lift my finger and push the virtual d pad again.

Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.

Whipon said:
Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.
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as i stated earlier.... i believe the atrix has the same digitizer as the nexus s. So posibly we could get the driver from the nexus s and try it...

Whipon said:
A guy from another forum pointed me to this bug.
It starts when you hold two fingers in the screen for more than 12 seconds. Then the multitouch is lost. After a few seconds it fixes itself.
Has anyone noticed this?. Is there any fix or workaround?.
This is terrible for gaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQblG7OxABk
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OMG I was wondering this while playing MARIO CART 64! You press B to go but you have to use the trackpad and 12 after the race starts, I always come to a stop and everyone passes me
LOL I sound like a dumbass kid now...but seriously, this is very very annoying...
The only work around I saw for Mario Cart was to use the Accelerometer sensor for the trackpad. Which is under Settings>Input Settings then Use sensor as-trackpad.
But this is defiantly an annoyance to other applications too...it really needs to be fixed.

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Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.
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its a software thing

lol the more we discover about this phone, the worse it gets

need info from someone running stock rom (rooted or unrooted)

i'm trying to get an approximation of how much time the android system uses the sensors. froyo, preferably EC05, but EB13 welcome too

murso74 said:
i'm trying to get an approximation of how much time the android system uses the sensors. froyo, preferably EC05, but EB13 welcome too
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Couple of pics. hope they help. Stock, unrooted EC05

thanks... wasn't expecting it to be so high on stock.. how long have you been unplugged? btw looks like u got the gallery bug going there

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thanks... wasn't expecting it to be so high on stock.. how long have you been unplugged? btw looks like u got the gallery bug going there
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What, you though it was a ROM bug? What a dumb idea.

k0nane said:
What, you though it was a ROM bug? What a dumb idea.
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no treats for me
i really dont' remember seeing that much sensor activity while stock... i could be completely wrong...
for the record i LOVE the rom =P

murso74 said:
i really dont' remember seeing that much sensor activity while stock... i could be completely wrong...
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I assure you, I didn't sprinkle any magic fail dust on it.

k0nane said:
I assure you, I didn't sprinkle any magic fail dust on it.
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very possible that you farted on it though

Actually those might not help. I forgot that I've been plugging my phone into the pc and out throughout the day.
Typed by Z using the Gingerbread keyboard.

Just change the filter to total since boot rather than unplugged. Sensor usage depends on how you use the phone as well not the same for everyone. If you're on the interwebs or youtube and rotating alot or using the phone the sensor for when to dim the screen, it will be much higher
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[video] Just got my 360 camera, that cost me $50!

I put together this unboxing, and some first impressions for you guys in this video, but MAN it was a PITA getting it working at first. Check it out.
https://youtu.be/8mtTubO9dd8

Got mine today.
Had to update soon as I put it on the phone.
The camera is why I bought the phone and its just a big disappointment.

going_home said:
Got mine today.
Had to update soon as I put it on the phone.
The camera is why I bought the phone and its just a big disappointment.
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why a disappointment???

Its got a lot of lag.
Boot up is slow, picture taking is slow.
Maybe I'm not doing something correct but the texted pics were a waste of time.
Havent tried emailing a video or picture yet, couldnt get a video to text.

going_home said:
Its got a lot of lag.
Boot up is slow, picture taking is slow.
Maybe I'm not doing something correct but the texted pics were a waste of time.
Havent tried emailing a video or picture yet, couldnt get a video to text.
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Are we talking about the same camera here??

Your thread is about the 360 camera accessory correct ?

going_home said:
Your thread is about the 360 camera accessory correct ?
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Yeah it is. HAHA, you just described the stock camera problems...hahahahahah

There's a camera update on the play store that supposedly helps speed up the 360 cam

Nv1dia said:
Yeah it is. HAHA, you just described the stock camera problems...hahahahahah
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I got the 360 yesterday and was describing my experience with it.
I did download the update on the play store, but havent tried it yet.