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In conjunction to the post, "blue tint problem," which isn't really a problem but anyway....
I thought it'd be interesting to create a poll to see where everyone's at with their Vibrants.
Please participate in the poll, it'll be very interesting to see...
So if you're on the blue side or yellow side, obviously submit yours accordingly, however, for neutral that's for those who have calibrated monitors that can get true comparisons to determine if it's neutral.
There's no need to lie here LOL..it's just for fun so the more accurate it is the better. Don't just click neutral if you don't really know for sure. Try comparing your phone first with other Vibrants to be sure.
Here we go!
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
OolonColuphid said:
It's slight blue, but related to viewing angle and screen brightness. Viewing straight on, it's pretty neutral.
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I know what you mean. Could the SAMOLED screen perhaps slightly change in its color tone as it warms up?
When I fired up the two Vibrants I have that was turned on for the first time and compared it to my other two which has been in use, the two never been used phones screen looked identical in its tone/shade.
So perhaps over time it does change as it, "breaks in?"
Does anyone know if this blue tint will get better with time? Mine seems to be the same, wondering if I should exchange my phone.
Well, mine is more cyan, though I can understand people calling it blue and it's driving me crazy. Even with brightness all the way up, there is no real white. This issue will likely cause me to return my Vibrant - along with the cheap build quality - as my Nexus screen looks much better and neutral in comparison. Even my wife noticed it immediately though she also has a Nexus.
Neutral, I've compared with monitors and other Vibrants from my T-Mobile store.
The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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The blue should fade over time..sometimes they put in a bit of extra blue to compensate the blue's lower life span..if you want to even it out use a blue background as your home screen for a while and it should even out >.>
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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Are you sure it will fade? Where did you get that info from, I know wikipedia talks about this and says the same thing, but wikipedia is not really that accurate. Where did you get your info?
I downladed an LCD test app from market, i'm running a constanst blue screen hoping it will help fade out the blue tint a bit. thanks
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When compared to mine my wife's had a very strong blue tint to it. Since I ordered ours over the phone I called Tmobile. They overnighted me a replacement without any hassle, I'd give them a call and see what they will do for you.
posted this in the other "blue tint" thread too
"...since the OLED material used to produce blue light degrades significantly more rapidly than the materials that produce other colors, blue light output will decrease relative to the other colors of light...In order to delay the problem, manufacturers bias the colour balance towards blue so that the display initially has an artificially blue tint, leading to complaints of artificial-looking, over-saturated colors..."
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen. Lmfaoooo OPS Pics are halarious, you can barely see the difference. I dont know seems like nit picking to me.. Im sure someone will say I paid 500 for this and it should be how I want it.. Well, then wait till its been out a few weeks first and find out the issues, and if a slight, slight barely noticed Blue tint was a issue and it bugs you, dont get the phone.
That easy. But wow, Im still laughing at this... Crazy funny, let me guess, the silver aound the edges blinds you in sun from the reflection?
Flame away, but I say common...lol GOOD day all and enjoy this phone.... Guess what, your next phone will have some wierd things too, nothing is perfect like some of you are expecting...
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Thats what im saying, i mean in all honesty you can barely tell, maybe they upped the blue output so that when everyone plaed avatar for the first itme on thre phones ppl were like damn the blues looks so good.....
I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I agree, stupidest topic ever. I thought I seena blue tint but now its gone. And as fast as the nexus screen looking nicer...my friend had his over the other day and it looks dull compared to the vibrant.
I guess if your imagining a blue tint, or don't know how to change screen settings them maybe you need a less advanced device.
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I guess if you did not receive a defective Vibrant with an extremely blue screen, even with brightness all the way up and power saving mode off, your not qualified to speak for those who did. Of course it would not make sense to you.
i dont know about you guys but every time Ive ever seen a white LED its always had a blueish tint (like automotive LED's) its really not that big of an issue
My display was noticeably blue the moment I turned it on... going to the T-Mobile store today to see if I can get a better unit with a more neutral color temperature.
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I know im gonna get flamed for this and Im prepared, but this has got to be the stupidest thread I have ever seen.
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It matters to some people more than others. If it doesn't bother you then great. It's not really fair to criticize people who are bothered by it--one should have a reasonable expectation for color accuracy of their display, especially for a device so touted as being a multimedia powerhouse.
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I see the ops pics, maybe the problem is your guys' eyes and ya should get them checked... I can barely tell the diff and I got perfect vision....
I stand by my statement .... dumbest topic ever.....
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I'm a graphic designer. I work with colors for a living every day. I've come to think that I have a pretty decent grasp of color.
Like I said, if you can't tell or it doesn't bother you or your handset isn't afflicted--great! But please don't dismiss the complaints of others simply because you "can barely tell the diff". ****
I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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You know, some people here say every Super Amoled has a blue tint. I have to disagree. I've been comparing my vibrant side by side to other vibrants, and the screens vary from phone to phone. Samsung deffinately has some manufacturing inconsistences. Side by side to other Vibrants, my screen has a very visible dark grayish blue tint. Other vibrants have a slight blue/green tint. While other vibrants i've compared to have gorgeus warm whites. 1 vibrant had a very dingy yellow look to all the whites. So this is not in our imagination, the screens vary a lot on these phones.
My cousin just got the vibrant this morning, she had not seen mine. She saw mine this morning and says "why is your screen blue?" Put mine side by side next to hers, and hers has nice warm bright whites. All of our brightness settings were identical.
I'll be exchanging shortly when I have time.
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I have that issue with the blue screen and for some reason I'm the only one who sees it, I work for T-Mobile and I was showing my co-workers that there is a blue tint to the screen and they didn't see it it until I compared it to another phone. I'm also a graphic artist and I guess we see colors that others don't notice cuss we have too that's what we do. I also had a issue with the screen, there was some pixelation on my screen so I exchanged it.
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So, does your replacement still show the blue screen tint?
Is it just me or do you guys experience it too? the yellow is really off. it looks more like gold or towards the greenish side. i downloaded the lcd color tester and it does look really off. i go on google and search for yellow images and they are all also off. i compared it to my nexus one and definitely it is. changing the brightness does nothing.
i went back to the store and the salesmen agreed but he didnt have another atrix for me to test today. i'll come back next week. but in the mean time is this normal for you folks or is it just me?
I don't think this has been mentioned by anyone yet. I'd look around to see if you can find any other threads that mention screen color in the title. There might even be more than one on the first page.
when i get a chance i'll try to take a screenshot of the test screen for you all too see side by side with my nexus one. its quite noticable on phone, i hope it translate over to the photos i will attach later.
I'm on my second Attic (the first one had a stuck blue pixel) and both have wrong colors.
Colors are dark and off... the green on the market is darker but lacks saturation and the yellow is more brownish...
I hope Motorola can fix this soon.
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I'm on my second Attic (the first one had a stuck blue pixel) and both have wrong colors.
Colors are dark and off... the green on the market is darker but lacks saturation and the yellow is more brownish...
I hope Motorola can fix this soon.
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glad its not just me, i hope its not hardware cuz then moto wont be able to fix it short of a recall and i doubt they will do that.
probably needs a recalibration
Yep. Also talking about it in the thread titled "Screen Colors Off?" Sorry, can't link to it from the mobile app.
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If anyone has a doubt about the yellows looking WAY too washed out...play a round of Angry Birds! One of my favorite Iphone games. As soon as I saw the "PLAY" button come up looking orange when I know it was supposed to be yellow...I kindly placed the Atrix down on the counter...walked 3 feet away and purchased the Inspire. The Atrix I used to demo wasn't even out on the floor yet...so I know some idiot didn't play with the color calibration settings. True colors on a high definition screen is a must for me. But I basically use my phones for their portable multimedia capabilities. While it kills me that the Inspire I'm about to get doesn't have HDMI...DLNA adaptors aren't that hard to find! Now go call me a troll!
I just check the same pic on my Atrix 4G , and Nexus one, as well as my IPS screen.
here are the sample:
1st attatchment is Atrix
2nd is Nexus one
3rd is Atrix vs N1
4th is original pic taken with Canon 5DmkII
IMO,
Atrix has washed out color
Nexus One(AMOLED) is overSaturated
My IPS lcd screen is calibrated by Spyder 2 pro.
I may like the color on Atrix, coz I am tired of AMOLED oversaturated color.
I dont have Inspire, so I can't judge on the SuperLCD screen.
Your judgement?
your atrix screen suffers from a yellow tint. it happens in all phones including iphone, nexus S " all phones "
there are 2 types of screens
1- yellow tinted screen
2- blue tinted screen. your nexus 1 is blue. while your atrix is yellow.
the blue one is the better screen, you will notice it when you put a blank white wallpaper. and on high brightness, you will see you atrix has yellow tint to it while your nexus 1 doesnt.
i say swap your atrix for better screen.
also you have to keep in mind that your screen is not Super Amoled. so dont compare contasts .
Just my $0.02, but I think the Atrix screen is better. It represents real colors, not oversaturated colors that everyone seems to love on phone screens now.
Atrix had the best of everything in these. Definition, color balance, skin tones, etc. Anyone who clames different now is full of crap.
+1 Thanks for the comparison. This should be stickied for all fanboys to see.
The N1 is waaay to red in my opinion.
The atrix could use a bit more warmth in the colours but not really that bad
More importantly, who's the girl..!?
Joking aside, the Atrix looks far more natural. I'm getting mine in a couple of hrs & have currently a N1 so I'll be comparing a lot in a while. Can't wait!
I think the atrix screen is great. I really dig the realistic colors. It's not perfect, but it's better than the N1 by far.
I still think that the iPhone has a better screen, i just don't want to use 3.5" anymore. It's too small and limiting.
One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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One thing though that I notice between this and the n1 is that I can actually use the atrix in direct sunlight and that's a +1.
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this! and only this! I can see the atrix screen @ 50% brightness in direct sunlight whereas I could barely make out anything on my N1 @ 100% brightness in direct sunlight!
The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.
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The atrix cant do the color yellow at all.. Look up yellow on wikipedia, you will see what I mean. Doesnt matter what shade the phone is, it cant do yellow. iPhones do it perfectly, as does my captivate.
That being said, the flesh tones are FAR better than on a SMOLED.
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The color orange (being based on yellow) looks far worse to me..... I did a test with al the colors on wikipedia.... . That said, the darker colors look better imo. Especially purple & black.
I am looking for honest opinions about the color change to the Nexus S display with the 2.3.3 update. I have heard very many people complaining and not liking the new color scheme. THis is key to whether I allow my nexus to update or not. If anybody can give me any opinions regarding this I will greatly apprectiate it. Also, what exactly was wrong with the original color scheme to begin with?
I've been lurking for a while now, but I suppose it's high time that I start contributing around here!
I think the update's colors are fine. Breaking it down, the 2.3.2 and below colors were a bit reddish in my eyes. While you couldn't tell for the most part, if you use a program like Screen Filter and get the screen to be very dim, there would be a very purple tint to the screen.
The update removed the purple tint, but a lot of people (the ones you refer to) began complaining about a yellowish tint and washed out colors. The yellowish tint is noticeable, especially when I compare white between the Nexus S and either my computer or an iPhone 3GS. In my eyes, it's not *that* yellow, and the screen overall looks better than it did pre-update. The washed out effect I really haven't noticed, though I do think that after installing netarchy's kernel, the colors do pop a little bit more.
Overall, I'm not a terribly picky person, but I do think that 2.3.3+Voodoo color looks better than 2.3.2 or stock 2.3.3.
Jeff's right. 2.3.3 stock colors aren't bad at all. I actually like it over the purplish colors of 2.3.2. Plus I think the lowest brightness levels have been darker than 2.3.2.
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You can't compare your super amoled screen to a computer monitor or an iPhone. When making this kinda comparison, you should compare with another similiar galaxy s phone or N1 that doesn't have the purplish tint issue. With that being said, the reason why colors looks washed out to some after the update is because, before the update most of us was used to the grays being purple so alot of images that had this certain shade of gray would display purple. Now after the update, those images that we're used to looking at with the purplish issue are now all of a sudden displaying it's true color of grays, which causes the images to appear washed out. The update does provide the correct color calibrations. Also keep in mind the these screens are not consistently manufactured the same. So even tho the update provides the correct color calibration, the outcome still may vary depending on the condition of the manufactured screen which explains why some are experiencing extreme yellowish discoloration.
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my brother bought a nexus S used few days ago. it was on 2.3.2
on high brightness, the white was perfect white " no yellow tint on it. perfect white.
however on low settings, it used to have pink tint that is more clear on gray colors.
so he updated to 2.3.3, the pink is gone. but now the screen has this " yellow " tint to it that makes the creen looks washed out. the blue not really a blue . its lighter blue, and the white on high setting is like yellow white.
however, he updated the karnel i think with one from voodoo where he can pick between 2 color profiles " forgot the name of the karnel but its in xda "
now the screen is back to how it was on 2.3.2 with its white " no yellowish" and when he pick the color profile for the low settings, the pink is also gone . no more pink on low settings and yellow on high settings. its actually perfect.
i assume if your phone has yellow issue on 2.3.2, then you are probably screwed. as there is no fix to that. the voodoo will only return the white to how it was on 2.3.2
but if your white was perfect and you have a problem with the pink, then look for the karnel, you will lose your pink plus the perfect white will come back agian
Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?