HDMI doesnt support video out - Xoom General

The Xoom's HDMI port doesn't support video out without the $129 dock according to cnets review.

No. Really? For real? Well, the inability to support hdmi output doesn't justify $800. =[
Not all of us who has extra bucks to get the speaker dock. What the...? How about the standard dock?

the cnet review reported that they tried it directly from the xoom and couldn't get it to work until they used the $129 dock, so I doubt the regular dock will work unless this is another feature that will be added later.

Taken from the Motorola Xoom Support site:
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XOOM - HDMI
What is the HDMI port for?
You can snap photos and capture videos, then sit back and enjoy them on your home HDTV flat screen. Your tablet’s HDMI port lets you connect it to other HDMI devices.
Note: Xoom offers video playback in 1080p HD but the display is optimized for 720p. Output in 720p via HDMI
HDCP via HDMI
Does the XOOM support HDCP via HDMI?
HDCP allows you to share HD videos to televisions. The XOOM will not support this feature at launch. A future software upgrade will enable this device to support HDCP via HDMI.
HDMI Mirror mode
When using HDMI, the bottom 80 pixels of the display where the navigation keys and notification menu are displayed is not projected on the external display. This is done by design and is not a defect with either the device or the external display.
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YUP all TRUE!!
Had to get that Piece of Loaded Crap to get HDMI out...
But worth it all!! Love the ability to Google Video Chat with another XOOM, got one extra for me sis at New York (next day ship)!!

I really want to get the Xoom for all that its capable of, but every feature that makes it stand out seems to come with the statement..will launch at a later date.

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HDMI

Can you output 1080p (or even 720p) video out through the HDMI port to a nice big TV?
I was reading somewhere that this may not be possible...
I was told you could and I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to but I haven't tried it yet. Need to find a cable
Thanks for the reply. Anyone actually have a cable and been able to do this?
I think it's micro hdmi so I have a cable but no xoom yet. One of the first things I plan on testing when it shows up next week.
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Some reviews I read said u actually need the HD dock to use hdmi out I don't even have the cable so I myself am wondering the samething
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967922
No need for the dock. The thread of someone having used it was pushed down to page 4.
That show's mirroring though. I want to see true Video output in 1080p.
I used my dx hdmi cable too hook up to me 65 in dlp and got 720p.
It basically just mirrors screen. I couldn't get xoom screen to turn off though. Didn't wait that long.
Watched some of a AVI movie via rock player and worked very well. Not 1080 though

[Q] Is Xoom HDMI 720p or 720i

A friend just brought round his Xoom so we could run some tests on it for a video project involving HDMI. However, our HDMI conversion unit didn't recognise the tablet's output, even though 720p/50 is one of the formats it accepts.
So we plugged it into our TV to check that the HDMI out was working, and it flashed up 720i. Our conversion unit doesn't recognise 720i, so that's consistent across both devices.
So are the specs (which say 720p) wrong? Or am I missing something?. Do other users get 720i when they plug the HDMI into the TVs?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/61611/~/xoom---hdmi
The xoom produces a mirrored output I think, it takes 1280x800, chops off the bottom 80 pixels and produces a 1280x720p output.
There is very little chance this device would send out an interlaced image.
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There is very little chance this device would send out an interlaced image.
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So why is my TV showing the input as 720i?
My question is to people who actually have the Xoom. Are your TVs showing 720p or 720i when you plug in your HDMI?
C'mom there must be someone here with a Motorola Xoom besides me.
Proof that it's 720p.
Thanks - that's very kind of you. Now I have to figure out why it's showing up as interlaced on my TV, or if it's just a weirdly misleading artifact of dodgy hdmi handshaking. My converter can allegedy handle 720p/60, so it's all very strange.

[Q] Can you change the HDMI Output on the Acer a500

I bought an HDMI cable today so I can put Netflix onto my TV. I have an older HDTV, from 2004. It's a Panasonic model number pt-47x54j. When I plug my tablet into it, the little Android dude pops up onto the TV and and says 720p? I checked the owners manual and it says that the TV is only capable of 1080i, or 480p and 480i. I plugged my tablet into a more modern HDTV and it works just fine. Crystal Clear. Is there any way that I can get my a500 to work on my Panasonic TV? Attached is a screenshot of my TV's owner's manual on the page where it talks about HDMI inputs. Thanks in advance...
From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
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haag498 said:
It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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Thanks. At this point, I'm just using my tablet to watch the movies on. That's good enough for me. Once my TVs start breaking and/or if I get this dream job that I'm currently chasing after, I'm going to get a more modern TV and all of my HDMI cable worries will go away. I put the Netflix App on my phone too. My 3 year old freaking loves it!! He is always asking for my phone to watch cartoons on. It's hilarious. haha
Of course, I'm still going to try to figure this crap out with my current TV. That's the fun part.
haag498 said:
It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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micro HDMI itself is capable of 1080p, but the tablet will only output 1080p if there's a 1080p stream (such as a 1080p movie). Netflix will not do 1080p, though.

N10 HDMI resolutions

Hey, wondering if anyone else is getting varied resolutions when using a micro HDMI -> HDMI cable into a TV. We have a 37" plasma 1080 capable but I only get 480 out of, and our 42" LCD only gets 720.
Both are default numbers as I haven't been able to find anyway to adjust them. Have tried stock video player, MX player and YouTube through all to no avail.
If anyone has any ideas, I'd be most appreciative.
Cheers
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Low_Key_13 said:
Hey, wondering if anyone else is getting varied resolutions when using a micro HDMI -> HDMI cable into a TV. We have a 37" plasma 1080 capable but I only get 480 out of, and our 42" LCD only gets 720.
Both are default numbers as I haven't been able to find anyway to adjust them. Have tried stock video player, MX player and YouTube through all to no avail.
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You may want to check your hdmi cable. If you have a "standard hdmi cable" , and it supports up to 1080i/720p. The type 2 "high speed data hdmi cable" supports 1080p, 3d and high color. Your tv's and tablet may support it, but you may be using a standard hdmi cable.
Source: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro-HDMI#section_2
Listed under specifications/cables
I haven't looked, does the n10 support 1080i?... I notice most devices and movies I look at only support "p" areas (480p, 720p and 1080p) relevant since I plan to buy a big screen LED tv with my tax return...
Cheers for the heads up, I've read in other forums that the n10 downscales to 1080, but haven't seen it first hand.
There's a few variables at play, I'll get some specs from the TV's, I haven't seen any different type of cables on eBay else I'd have got the better one (i spent $15 on this one).
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I purchased a $10 off of Amazon. Supposedly a HS cable. Real thick and almost 6 feet long.. Nice, but the TV I had planned to use it on, it did not output sound! 2 other sets, and the sou d works fine. I read here that it is a cable/tv combination problem.. Plug in another hdmi and the sound will work fine. Haven't tried it since I hooked it into the stereo via blue tooth.
I am planning to buy a small converter attachment,(pigtail cable or plug) that way I can use the hs hdmi cables I already have on the tv. I am still not convinced that it isn't a problem with android, but we'll see.

Netflix 4K issue

Anyone having this issue? It will play around 10-15 secs then it will prompt me this.. Only happening on 4K contents. The problem is I cannot uninstall Netflix as it was embedded on the shield. I already signout, restart the machine but still getting this.
Is the shield TV connected to a HDCP 2.2 compliant HDMI input on your TV?
Also, try another account. I used to have this problem a lot on the built-in Netflix app on my samsung TV, and for some reason changing from my kid's profile to mine playing the exact same thing would work.
I have never seen this on my Shield TV, unless my internet connection drops...
do you think hdmi rated 10.6gb is not enough?
ad78 said:
do you think hdmi rated 10.6gb is not enough?
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I am not sure...
But 10.2Gb/s is hdmi 1.4 / HDCP 1.4...while HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 is 18Gbps.
Did you try the HDMI cable provided with the Shield? This is the one I use and have no problem.
And again, the input used on the TV has to be HDCP 2.2 compliant. On my Samsung TV (2014) for example, only HDMI 3 can do HDMI2.0+HDCP 2.2 (only 30hz), all other inputs are HDMI 2.0 (at 60hz) but non HDCP 2.2 compliant.
What TV brand / model do you have?
MrBungle67 said:
I am not sure...
But 10.2Gb/s is hdmi 1.4 / HDCP 1.4...while HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 is 18Gbps.
Did you try the HDMI cable provided with the Shield? This is the one I use and have no problem.
And again, the input used on the TV has to be HDCP 2.2 compliant. On my Samsung TV (2014) for example, only HDMI 3 can do HDMI2.0+HDCP 2.2 (only 30hz), all other inputs are HDMI 2.0 (at 60hz) but non HDCP 2.2 compliant.
What TV brand / model do you have?
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I'm sorry it's 10.2gb
Here's my dilemma.. YouTube on shield was set to 2160p played without any issue.. Not a single buffer. Very smooth
I checked the settings on shield it was set to 4K 30hz. Yes I'm using the provided hdmi from shield going to my 4K Sony receiver.
My tv is Vizio 4K 2015 model. At the back of the TV I have 4 HDMI. It was set to hdmi 1 which is 30hz. I tried swapping to HDMI 2 60hz but I'm getting the same problem.
Ill try uninstall updates on Netflix as soon as I get home and keep you posted. Or probably try rooting the hell out of the shield and sideload netflix from play store
ad78 said:
I'm sorry it's 10.2gb
Here's my dilemma.. YouTube on shield was set to 2160p played without any issue.. Not a single buffer. Very smooth
I checked the settings on shield it was set to 4K 30hz. Yes I'm using the provided hdmi from shield going to my 4K Sony receiver.
My tv is Vizio 4K 2015 model. At the back of the TV I have 4 HDMI. It was set to hdmi 1 which is 30hz. I tried swapping to HDMI 2 60hz but I'm getting the same problem.
Ill try uninstall updates on Netflix as soon as I get home and keep you posted. Or probably try rooting the hell out of the shield and sideload netflix from play store
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Here's the deal...youtube doesn't care about content protection, so anyone with a 4k tv can stream 4k content from youtube. HDMI 1.4 will support 4k resolution at 30hz no problem, so no problem with youtube. Netflix however, cares. So streaming Netflix in 4k requires all your involved components (shield TV, receiver, TV) to be HDCP 2.2 compliant (HDCP = High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) + HDMI cables supporting the necessary bandwidth for 4k+HDCP2.2 (18Gbps).
4k receivers might have all HDMI inputs HDCP2.2 compliant, some have 1 only, some have none, all depending of how old and how much you paid for it.
If I were you, before uninstalling netflix updates and stuff, I would connect the shield TV directly to the TV (no receiver), and see if the problem persists. From what I read online, if you have a 2015 Vizio M series, only input 5 will do 4k+HDCP 2.2
"Only one HDMI input, Input 5, is compatible with both newfangled HDMI connection protocols, namely HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 copy protection. The former allows 4K frame rates up to 60Hz, the fastest currently available. The latter allows the TV to accept copy-protected 4K content over HDMI, from devices like the Sony FMP-X10 media player, the Nvidia Shield playing back certain copy-protected content such as Netflix 4K, and forthcoming 4K Blu-Ray content. 2015 4K TVs from Samsung, Sony and LG offer multiple so-equipped inputs.
The other four are version 1.4, meaning they can handle 1080p sources up to 60Hz and 4K sources up to 30Hz. Of those four, only two support HDCP 2.2."
http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m-series-2015/2/
I spent hours and hours reading about all that stuff...and this is a huge headache for consumers!!!! To get my system where I want it to be, I'd have to spend $400 on a "Samsung evolution kit" + another $500 on a receiver!! Just because of all that HDCP BS...
Thanks man.. What a good read. I'll try your recommendation for sure.
so i directly inserted the HDMI cable from TV to shield showed all "ultra HD" menu.. i just realized that my 4K sony receiver is not HDCP 2.2 supported. Damn!
definitely, my 4K vizio TV is HDCP 2.2 capable since i can play netflix ultra HD on it.
thanks..
ad78 said:
so i directly inserted the HDMI cable from TV to shield showed all "ultra HD" menu.. i just realized that my 4K sony receiver is not HDCP 2.2 supported. Damn!
definitely, my 4K vizio TV is HDCP 2.2 capable since i can play netflix ultra HD on it.
thanks..
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Yep...As I said 4K is going to be a massive headache for consumers...Netflix, Amazon, 4k bluray players, STBs etc will all require HDCP2.2... Many people are going to buy those new 4k TVs, to soon realize that their receivers, soundbars and other peripherals won't be able to work anymore. It's really a pain considering how much a good receiver costs...
What makes it even more of a BS is that this whole thing is only about content protection and encryption of the video signal to avoid piracy...guess what, it's already been cracked. All the 4k content from Netflix is already available on torrents. Yet we have to spend extra $$$ on hardware for legitimate content we are already paying for. Anyways...
Glad I could help!
good thing i bought the receiver after Nov 1. which is qualified for holiday returns until Jan 15.
thanks again
4k on Shield Tv
Yes having the same problem, Netflix is saying it's the bitrate from the ISP, but have a Roku4 that streaming fine on the same network. Netflix is saying the ISP is singling out the Shield and capping it. Hmm

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