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[Q] Fascinate Necessities?????

So I just got my Fascinate last week. I'm new to Android and I'm trying to get a grasp on what the popular/necessary apps, widgets, roots, launchers, etc. are...... So here is the question- What did you do straight away when you got your phone? And what do you wish you had done straight away?

Root, install de bloated rom of choice, install voodoo, profit
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Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.

iceman1183 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.
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BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
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TheBadBen said:
I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
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Amen!!
I still pine for ListPro and Pocket Informant, tho.

lots of good information here. The only thing I would add is that you should probably steer clear of Voodoo for the time being. Yes, it does really speed things up however do to the fact that it changes the filesystem type of your /data partition it no longer allows you to perform full backups (Nandroid) of your phone unless you disable the Voodoo lag fix which has rendered several phones (including mine) unable to fully boot without restoring to stock.
Voodoo will NOT brick your phone but anyone considering using Voodoo should be prepared to lose all their data and know how to flash back to stock. If you are not willing / able to accept that risk I highly recommend avoiding Voodoo - at least for now.
Martian21

What todo with Rooted 2.2.1 Froyo Epic4g

ok so i have a brand new samsung epic that i just updated to 2.2.1 Froyo, then I used a one click root to root my phone................ so now what? what does rooted & 2.2.1 allow me todo someone please help me? whats the point of superuser? how do i get apps in there? i also read alot of forums about a viper room that scores 2000 something on the quadrant test, how do i get the viper rom on my phone? Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated!!!
The biggest thing that i really want is this clockwork mod i think thats what it is called, it makes your home screen look like the Evo with the big clock & weather feature, id really like to get that.

djkris808 said:
so now what?
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Now what is you need to read all of the stickies in the general forum, then move to the development forum and read those stickies before you do serious harm to your phone.
Clockwork Mod is a recovery tool that replaces the stock Samsung recovery and allows you to backup your phone, flash kernels and ROMs and do other low level stuff. If you don't know what that is, go read the stickies again and don't mess with them until you understand it
There are plenty of clock/weather apps in the market, Beautiful Widgets is a very popular one, though I think you need to pay for it. You don't need root or anything fancy to run them.

If I were writing a FAQ about root it would look something like this..
Q: What can I do with a rooted phone?
A: Run apps that require root access.
Q: What apps require root access?
A: So far the main ones I've used personally have been SDX Stock App remover which lets you delete carrier installed bloatware and the free wireless tether app.
On a more philosophical note, having root is like having admin rights to your windows computer. It means having more direct control over the system. Maybe you don't want or need that level of control. though if you're that kind of user who just wants a phone that works without tinkering with it, i can't imagine why you wouldn't just get an iphone..

i do want todo tricky stuff to my phone, im just the person who gathers information b4 i do things like this because i dont want to get my phone bricked you know. i jus want to get the viper rom that makes my epic run a hell of alot faster & make the home screen look like the Evo. & what apps should i download for my superuser???

The quadrant score of 2000+ is fake.
Quadrant is seriously irrelevant at this point.
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djkris808 said:
i do want todo tricky stuff to my phone, im just the person who gathers information b4 i do things like this because i dont want to get my phone bricked you know. i jus want to get the viper rom that makes my epic run a hell of alot faster & make the home screen look like the Evo. & what apps should i download for my superuser???
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Hey man... quadrant means nothing... its setup for the evo ...the only reason I use it is to make sure my lagfix.apk installed properly ...though it does make the phone faster, its not the true scores... anyways, to check if you have clockwork installed, power your phone off. When its completely off hold the camera, volume down, & power buttons at the same time... if the screen comes up with blue letters, you don't have it, if it comes up with green you do. Check that first before you do anything.
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the words are green.

djkris808 said:
the words are green.
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Ok, you've got clockwork then... and since you're already on froyo, that means you've got the modem installed already. So your next step is just finding the rom you want, downloading it and flashing it.
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what roms do you recommend?

All Rooted and no where to go!

I Feel like im stuck, i have the Sprint GT. Seems there is minimal development for the Sprint GT and having an HTC EVO and using the EVO forums I'm sad.. I would gladly open my wallet as i do in the EVO forums here in the GT forums. Anybody out there feeling my same pain?

I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.

Sprint Tab
I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.

SDW90808 said:
I feel your pain. I think I've only a few rooted apps working on my Sprint Tab. Not the end of the world but my Moto Droid is more fun to play with. I'm something of a hack so I don't even know if it's possible to unlock the bootloader but it would be nice to have a few other apps working like the Wireless Tether.
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Did you try the one click root method?

nsmal24 said:
I understand completely. I bought a Sprint Tab and was shocked at the lack of development (came from incredible which is very similar to Evo). However, after root, CWM, voodoo, and custom kernel, I can say that I don't really desire to do anything else to my Tab. I cleaned up some bloatware myself (freeze/delete) and it runs like a dream. BTW, see this thread if you need help with anything besides root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016758
So don't be too disappointed, with some minor changes (VOODOO!!!) you won't need a custom rom. App performance, battery life, and general usage are all terrific now.
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Thanks for the great info! I would really be happy if i could eventually have honeycomb on my GT. Im super happy with performance and size but it looks like all of the alpha and soon to be beta versions for the GT are all GSM or for Verizon. Well i said all that because my 30 trial is up in a few weeks and i dont want to be stuck with 2.2. But im gonna give Voodoo a try, just need to read up on it entirely. Thanks again!

Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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wintermute000 said:
Why don't you try overcome custom rom?
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I may need to search harder not sure i saw overcome for Sprint.
Thanks..

Honestly guys, aside from Spacemonkey's HC port, there's not much support for the VZW Tab either. All I have are a few root apps, and CWM, which is virtually useless without development. The Xoom already has custom kernels, but nobody seems to be able to get behind the GT on any level. Kinda disappointing, but I'll check out Voodoo, and maybe give that a shot.
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I'm also curious where you got a sprint overcome rom.

New toy

So I am getting a transformer for Christmas... Where should I start as of root and rom?
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The SEARCH box.
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spidey01 said:
the search box.
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ditto
10chars

Lol well what would be the best rom and stuff my area is phones rights this will be my first tablet with honeycomb
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I am running the Prime 2.1.1 ROM and it's good. I have had trouble with the Revolution HD ROM (didn't restore apps automatically, Market crashes, some apps are shown as not compatible etc.). I will wait until the first ICS ROMs come out before I try anything new (e.g. the KRAKD ROM looks promising).

So maybe i play honeycomb and wait for the ICS roms to drop then cause that works
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I have tried revolver, prime, and revolution HD for me revolution is the most stable and the battery is amazing on it. the only thing I don't like is how really stock it is. Revolver is really customizable rom you can do alot tweets but the battery drains fast. Well prime, I was getting alot of fc so I didn't play with it to much.
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First off, make sure that you always make a backup of what you have working on the tablet. This will save you much frustration if something goes wrong. Nandroid backups are the ones that will restore a whole ROM for you. As for backing up apps with data, you can use Titanium Backup (requires root).
The two main firsts are that you should get it rooted (very easy now) and install CWM (Clockwork Recovery Mod). CWM will allow you to flash ROMs, make backups of the ROM itself and handle various memory functions.
Read through the Stickies in the Android Dev section, they will tell you all information you need to know.
As mentioned above, if you run into any kind of issue, before you post, use the search function and see if it is something that has been asked and answered before. If you are following the steps to whatever you are doing and you get stuck, chances are good someone else has done the same thing and gotten help with it.
Another thing to note is when you choose a ROM, look through its feature list, and if available, the bug list. Looking through both of those should aid you in deciding if that specific ROM or Kernel is something you want to use. If you get as far as flashing Kernels, make sure it is one that is compatible with the ROM you are using, otherwise the tablet probably won't boot and you'll have to flash a Kernel known to work with whichever ROM you chose.

Read thru the stickies above.

First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.

bbond said:
First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.
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Please check your facts before you post things that are incorrect as truth!

Rumbleweed said:
Please check your facts before you post things that are incorrect as truth!
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Well that's why I said I hope I'm wrong and haven't read that I was. Are all TF's in fact now rootable?

bbond said:
First thing you'll need to do is check the serial number on it and make sure you even have the choice of rooting it. AFAIK, most serials after the B60 series have a locked bootloader that hasn't been cracked yet. I hope I'm wrong, but I haven't read anything to the contrary yet.
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You sir, are very wrong.
I rooted my B90 with razorclaw without a hitch.
This has been common knowledge around the community for about a month now.... :/
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Just a month? Back when I rooted my TF we had to walk uphill in the snow both ways just to get the documentation on the process.
Anyways, back on topic...I use the latest PRIME! and I rarely have issues. Good luck when you get it!

I know im so happy I get one she was at first gonna get me an acer a500 but the transformer was on a door crashers sale for 299 minus the the dock for it and they was sold out here in london with in 2 hrs but she in yellowknife and her store didn't open till noon a i am only assuming she was able to scoop it up... But I'm more then it's the one she got... Now if it is should i get the dock or would be fine with out it
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Buckii said:
I know im so happy I get one she was at first gonna get me an acer a500 but the transformer was on a door crashers sale for 299 minus the the dock for it and they was sold out here in london with in 2 hrs but she in yellowknife and her store didn't open till noon a i am only assuming she was able to scoop it up... But I'm more then it's the one she got... Now if it is should i get the dock or would be fine with out it
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You okay there Buckii?
Anyway, I would recommend getting the dock. Sometimes it is nice to have a physical keyboard, plus the additional battery adds hours of use time.

[Q] Why root?

Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
I see a lot of stuff on this forum about rooting however and I'm curious what the practical benafits to rooting are. I origionally had planned to route the iconia because I heard it didn't support netflix but the netflix app seems to work fine on my device so I'm happy there.
There were a lot of things that made me want to route my phone (Samsung Epic) such as the desire to tether other devices to it and get rid of all the Samsung, pre-istalled BS and Touch Wiz which made the phone run slowly. Those considerations don't exist here as Honey Comb seems to be plenty fast and there doesn't appear to be many BS additions from Acer.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?

I rooted my a500 so I could connect to ad-hoc networks and use ntfs drives.
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MalachiX said:
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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It is a very personal question in the sense that there is no one, single reason why people root. I for example rooted because I needed ad-hoc wifi, otherwise I could have well survived without rooting. Once I did root my tablet I did of course install CWM so I can take a full backup of the whole thing -- better safe than sorry, as they say -- and tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
Just ask yourself: is there anything I need root for?

I think I root for a few different reasons.
ClockworkMod for nandroid backup and other things.
Titanium backup for app/data backup and easy bloat remove/restore.
AdFree
overclocking and other performance adjustments
Cifs/Samba support - I have 3 androids with share links on my PC desktop for drag-n-drop file copying without wires.
Root explorer of course.
Drive mount seems to need it.
Oh and theming - I like to theme and make small code changes.

Essentially, if you need to ask that question, you don't need to root your device....
You'll know when you need to...

WereCatf said:
....tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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ipetloudog said:
No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?

Thanks for the advice everyone.
I was all set to root because I heard that Netflix wasn't functioning on the Iconia and rooting was easy.
Now I find that Netflix works fine and apparently I shouldn't have let my tablet update when I first turned it on.
Guess I'll leave my Iconia alone for now.

WereCatf said:
What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
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Did you try to get help with the buggies? People are pretty helpful around here. I'm running Honeylicious Icy something and it seems to be perfect so far.

id be waiting for ICS
MalachiX said:
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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One word really - titanium - there is just no better way to make a full backup.
But having said that - with all the rumors of ICS withing maybe weeks - rooting may not be such a good idea right now ... most OTA updates do tend to have issues with rooted devices.
Westa

why root
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.

Havent seen a reason yet to root my A500 as it does everything I want, possibly if I got a wildhair and wanted to install a custom rom. On the other hand I bought a Kindle Fire and I rooted it and had a custom rom installed withing a week, primarily to make it more like my Acer.

beebleboop said:
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.

I just got mine and always thought I would root it, but I don't see the point yet.
I rooted my Evo so that I can remove bloat, increase battery life, and most important wirelessly tether with my tablet.
The battery life on my tablet seems amazing, honeycomb seems fast and the bloat doesn't bother me as much.
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Honeybar!!!

i rooted and installed thors rom, its awesome.
No real reason either, I just know from past experience every device is made more enjoyable with the right rom.
Plus with ics coming soon ill have to be able to backup my data to survive the upgrade.

I find out About Rooting (or unlocking) before I buy any device
#1 Freezing Apps (like Deleting, only safer -Titanium Backup)
#2 OverClocking to 1.5 Ghz and still being stable (up to 1.64)
#3 Under clock (216,245 mhz) (saving battery life)
#4 fun to be "ABLE" to tweak out something.
#5 Example : -a new trick to get better Wi-Fi or 3G Signal, or better GPS (you'll need ROOT to edit system data)
KNOWING that you can always get back to stock in under 5-7 min (if you have to bring in device)
Leaves you a better question.
"Why have you NOT ROOTED it yet?"

MalachiX said:
Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
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Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.

I just got this tablet for Xmas, well the Packard bell one but from my understanding there the same. I still need to root mine. I've heard that you can connect a ps3 control if your rooted. Is this the only requirement?
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civato said:
Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
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OMG very funny.. Sounds like one of my Long winded Quick unedited or checked post. with no spell check or punctuation ......
With that said..
I think if you have to ask WHY ROOT your device.. My Question is what Does your device not do that you need? And will rooting the device solve this for you..
its risk vs benefits . the oldest Android Question in the book .. Should i foot.. or should i not foot...