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what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
TheArtiszan said:
what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
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The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204 Link to the Cyanogen 4.01
tazz9690 said:
The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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wow dude you have been a lot of help, I feel a lot more about rooting now (wow you flash almost everyday haha awesome). I think I'm gonna try it tonight haha.
So I wont need to restore to the original shipped state if I ever need to do a warranty claim?
oh yeah so should I flash cyanogen 3.9.X.X or 4.0.1 ( I know 3.9.X.X has some donunt features but its experimental...but is it better?)
so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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really is there a main/any difference between the 2?
i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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So it looks like sense ui from the hero? I heard all those roms are slow due to the ram limitation on the mytouch (192mb) vs the hero (288mb)
btw I have a class 2 card too as of right now so that is good to know
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
mykenyc said:
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
you can always use the old method just follow the instructions step by step don't feel discourage ... but you must and i repeat follow each step ... one... by ..one
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
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Ah thanks for the info. I think i'll flash with cyanogen's rom since I currently don't have another micro sd card to do the old method
So, for my sake, and others considering to take the plunge, what are some real benefits of rooting? I have had my nexi for 6 days now and I need a real good reason to root, because as we all know, it voids the warranty. Agree?
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So, for my sake, and others considering to take the plunge, what are some real benefits of rooting? I have had my nexi for 6 days now and I need a real good reason to root, because as we all know, it voids the warranty. Agree?
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Custom ROMs, certain apps that require root/su access, and custom themes. Whether those are real good reasons or not is up to you.
just a quick question, ive read the tut on rooting the nexus, what i do not understand is can u only do the root and not the rest of it, as it says to install this image then recovery, as i do not want to put custom roms on, is this possible,
sorry new to android, been windows mobile for so long,
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Custom ROMs, certain apps that require root/su access, and custom themes. Whether those are real good reasons or not is up to you.
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Alright so another question for you my good man, how easy is it to achieve root? Because I literally had the hardest time on my magic. It got me so heated that I never tried again. And now in the tutorial for rooting it makes it sound amazingly easy.
takes minutes to do I did it in less than 5
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just a quick question, ive read the tut on rooting the nexus, what i do not understand is can u only do the root and not the rest of it, as it says to install this image then recovery, as i do not want to put custom roms on, is this possible,
sorry new to android, been windows mobile for so long,
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unlocking the bootloader does NOT give you root, it simply ALLOWS you to root. Root access is part of a custom ROM (a modified kernel I beleive). You can leave the stock ROM on and just install the superboot image on top of it to get root access (see modaco's thread in development section).
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takes minutes to do I did it in less than 5
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so you also had to flash a new rom to the device, correct? do you think you could PM me a super simple way to do it... just the exact way you did it? i would greatly appreciate it bro
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so you also had to flash a new rom to the device, correct? do you think you could PM me a super simple way to do it... just the exact way you did it? i would greatly appreciate it bro
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The easiest way would be to unlock the boot loader, then flash Armon's recovery, then flash Modaco's rooted stock ROM(he made a rooted version of the stock updated ROM, no changes other than the root).
It should take about 10 minutes total if you are experienced and bang it out... being new, probably take about 20-30 minutes since I am sure you will be double checking along the way.
There are some great guides in the Nexus One Dev section, the best IMO is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612858
If you already have the full update flashed, you don't need to do the radio again.
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The easiest way would be to unlock the boot loader, then flash Armon's recovery, then flash Modaco's rooted stock ROM(he made a rooted version of the stock updated ROM, no changes other than the root).
It should take about 10 minutes total if you are experienced and bang it out... being new, probably take about 20-30 minutes since I am sure you will be double checking along the way.
There are some great guides in the Nexus One Dev section, the best IMO is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612858
If you already have the full update flashed, you don't need to do the radio again.
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wow. thak you. i'll have to dive into this a little bit later. hopefully it'll be easy.
by the way... do you have to have the Android SDK installed for this to work? because it says to type different commands in, but into what terminal..?
windows XP MCE
zach, I was in the same boat as you, and I was looking for an ultra-noob friendly walkthru for rooting. I found youtube to be the best source, as you can see the process on someone else's phone first. I was shaky reading even the walkthru on xda forums, but youtube cleared it up. Just google "nexus one root" and you'll get a boat-load of videos.
Hope that helps....
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zach, I was in the same boat as you, and I was looking for an ultra-noob friendly walkthru for rooting. I found youtube to be the best source, as you can see the process on someone else's phone first. I was shaky reading even the walkthru on xda forums, but youtube cleared it up. Just google "nexus one root" and you'll get a boat-load of videos.
Hope that helps....
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Oh man I didn't even think of that. Thank you so much for the idea.
The big reason I needed to root the phone was TETHERED access! Both wired and wireless.
I travel a bit, and more often than not I cannot get a decent WIFI signal, or I am in someplace that requires me to pay for access (like a hotel). Almost EVERY hotel in Las Vegas for instance requires you to pay for internet access.... but with tethering... I am golden and surfing the web for free.
I also use SetCPU for profiles for when my phone is sleeping, charging, etc. I can usually squeeze out a little more life in the battery this way. Also... CacheMate is a great tool (especially if you are not using Apps2SD) for recovering extra space.... it's a "root" required app.
If you are a App-o-holic.... and NEED the extra room on your phone... you will want or need Apps 2 SD... .. and will need to have root access to do this.
Hope these suggestions help.
Some of my favorite things about rooting are Cyan's High-Mem Kernel, doubling the memory available, Tethering, Themeing(I can't stand the standard notification bar), and setting my clock speed to stay between 998 and 768. If you think the Nexus is fast now wait till you get High-Mem and change your CPU Clock settings.
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The big reason I needed to root the phone was TETHERED access! Both wired and wireless.
I travel a bit, and more often than not I cannot get a decent WIFI signal, or I am in someplace that requires me to pay for access (like a hotel). Almost EVERY hotel in Las Vegas for instance requires you to pay for internet access.... but with tethering... I am golden and surfing the web for free.
I also use SetCPU for profiles for when my phone is sleeping, charging, etc. I can usually squeeze out a little more life in the battery this way. Also... CacheMate is a great tool (especially if you are not using Apps2SD) for recovering extra space.... it's a "root" required app.
If you are a App-o-holic.... and NEED the extra room on your phone... you will want or need Apps 2 SD... .. and will need to have root access to do this.
Hope these suggestions help.
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so i rooted havent been able to take advantage yet.
where could i get apps 2 sd?
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Some of my favorite things about rooting are Cyan's High-Mem Kernel, doubling the memory available, Tethering, Themeing(I can't stand the standard notification bar), and setting my clock speed to stay between 998 and 768. If you think the Nexus is fast now wait till you get High-Mem and change your CPU Clock settings.
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i'm also interested in this... A LOT! how would i go about getting all of the aforementioned items (kernel, x2 memory, etc) on my nexi?
thank you all guys
Hi everyone...
Im looking for suggestions on how to customize my stock vibrant and try all col things with this powerful phone... So far I have launcher pro and a beautiful widgets... And some games like need for speed shift demo... Anything else cool and exciting I can try or download on my phone w/o rooting it? Or screwing up ota uodates in the future?... Like changing tmob boot up screen or any suggestions at alll...
Thanx
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
In the settings you can change the "font style." (New fonts can be downloaded for a buck.) It can have a significant effect on how things appear. Some suggestions from the tips thread are Helvetica Nue, Soho Gothic, Frutiger and Felbridge. I'm digging Helvetica a lot.
Thanx for suggestion.. I forgot to mention I downloaded a few flip fonts I love how it changes the look of the phone.. Any other suggestions? Or performance boosters?
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you can not change the boot logo (or shutdown) if you are not rooted. If you are rooted, you still get OTA, but once installed it will unroot the phone
No problem do this
Fancy Widgets
Pure Messenger/ Grid Calendar and an Agenda app... (can't remember the name)
I am running Agenda Widget and liking it ok so far. I am always looking for a better one.
Launcher Pro or ADW, Beautiful Widgets, change the font style.
Here is a link to a thread with a plethora of Flip Fonts to choose from. Just download the .apk. locate and install on your device. Go into settings and change the font, restart and there you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748916
Don't mean to pick on the op but I'm curious why people don't want to root.
I did the day it was possible and haven't looked back. So many things you can do to customize all reversible if you have to. Just don't try doing really crazy stuff unless you know what your doing but most things in the stick under the root section are easy and awesome.
Anyway I'd love to understand why people don't just do it.
Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
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Battery usage with percentage would be really nice.
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One more awesome thing to do with root. I don't get why you wouldn't.
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One more awesome thing to do with root. I don't get why you wouldn't.
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I don't get why people who don't root their phones go on XDA. XDA is a place for rooting and ROM development. Not a user-friendly website for non-rooters. But yeah definitely root, you can customize a lot more. Customize the notifications bar, I don't really big the light gray and blue 3G icon
I've gone from a few different Nokias, to a Motorola Razor, to a Blackberry Pearl and now finally to a Samsung Vibrant. I'm pretty good with computers and software so I know I could get rooting/recovery/flashing down, but this is my first time with a mobile device I could hack.
Whenever I do research on the topic I find multiple threads with multiple ways to root. The whole directions/concept just isn't crystal clear with me yet, despite how much I've read. And, there's always posts at the end of each thread by users with unanswered issues/problems.
I guess, I'm just taking the slow cautious route, enjoying stock android eclair for a while. I do have the itch, but no apps or issues with my phone have pushed me beyond curiosity and into the experimental, so to speak.
What is the top main reason you have for rooting your vibrant?
Edit: to point out, I know I could've "hacked" my previous phones, but not the way you can with an Android phone, you know what I mean...
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I've gone from a few different Nokias, to a Motorola Razor, to a Blackberry Pearl and now finally to a Samsung Vibrant. I'm pretty good with computers and software so I know I could get rooting/recovery/flashing down, but this is my first time with a mobile device I could hack.
Whenever I do research on the topic I find multiple threads with multiple ways to root. The whole directions/concept just isn't crystal clear with me yet, despite how much I've read. And, there's always posts at the end of each thread by users with unanswered issues/problems.
I guess, I'm just taking the slow cautious route, enjoying stock android eclair for a while. I do have the itch, but no apps or issues with my phone have pushed me beyond curiosity and into the experimental, so to speak.
What is the top main reason you have for rooting your vibrant?
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- Allows access to applications that require root access (e.g. Titanium Backup, SetCPU, AdFree (not suggested since it helps developers), metamorph, etc)
- When you root, you have the ability to flash a custom recovery that allows custom ROMs. This allows nandroid backups, restores, and more.
- Remove bloatware that comes with the phone (this one DEFINITELY)
- Screenshots
See, I get confused. All I've read about recovery was people talking about "booting into recovery. The only thing I thought you flashed were the custom ROMs. And, I thought you only needed the backups and restores so you could get back to an unrooted state in case you needed warrantee work, or messed up your phone somehow.
What are the major bloatware items on the stock t-mobile vibrant?
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See, I get confused. All I've read about recovery was people talking about "booting into recovery. The only thing I thought you flashed were the custom ROMs. And, I thought you only needed the backups and restores so you could get back to an unrooted state in case you needed warrantee work, or messed up your phone somehow.
What are the major bloatware items on the stock t-mobile vibrant?
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Account & Settings on the App Drawer
Gogo
Amazon Kindle
TeleNav
T-Mobile Voicemail
MobiTV
Memo
AudioPostcard
(and many more)
... oh yeah and with root (and installed clockwork recovery) you can apply the Captivate camera which its interface is easier to apply different scenes.
And no.. you can restore non-root with Odin and nandroid backup (JAC's thread has a unrooted backup online). But yeah you do backups before you apply hacks to your phone incase anything happens
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Get the app called Battery Status Pro. That gives you what you want.
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Account & Settings on the App Drawer
Gogo
Amazon Kindle
TeleNav
T-Mobile Voicemail
MobiTV
Memo
AudioPostcard
(and many more)
... oh yeah and with root (and installed clockwork recovery) you can apply the Captivate camera which its interface is easier to apply different scenes.
And no.. you can restore non-root with Odin and nandroid backup (JAC's thread has a unrooted backup online). But yeah you do backups before you apply hacks to your phone incase anything happens
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Trying to figure out how to remove bloatware was THE reason I found xda and rooted. I had no idea what I was doing but it is ULTRA easy. Download update zip-boot to recovery-apply-enjoy. That got me discovering all the other awesome things I can do.
You will always see people who have problems with anything in the threads. This is why you make backups. Once you have those you can do a lot more with a lot more confidence knowing that if you make a mistake you can correct it - mostly. And you can unroot if you have to.
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Agreed. Love having it.
Come on guys lets talk about stuff you can do for non rooters please. I did root my phone but I took it to far and bricked it. I'm not doing it again and I know that xda forums lean more to rooting then not. I thought a thread that talked about non rooted phones was a great idea but its been taken over. So I'm bringing it back.
There are a lot of good lockscreen apps to look at for changing your lockscreen. I've used some of them just haven settled on one yet. So no need to root just have fun with it the way it is.
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Come on guys lets talk about stuff you can do for non rooters please. I did root my phone but I took it to far and bricked it. I'm not doing it again and I know that xda forums lean more to rooting then not. I thought a thread that talked about non rooted phones was a great idea but its been taken over. So I'm bringing it back.
There are a lot of good lockscreen apps to look at for changing your lockscreen. I've used some of them just haven settled on one yet. So no need to root just have fun with it the way it is.
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Thanx for staying on topic... no offense to others... where do i find different lock screens?
Okay so when I first got the phone I usually had around 100mb of ram avalible and now I am floating in the 40s and even that seems really low to me I have two widgets beautiful widgets and a to do list and I don't have many apps on the phone overall my question is having 40mb of ram really low or is it normal??
Not sure what is norm mine is. Mine very seldom drop below 155 and rebuild fast. Have 3 Windows of widget close 200apps. Rooted and romed using Darkslide v4
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so idk what could be wrong...like im always in the 40's
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so idk what could be wrong...like im always in the 40's
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check the programs that are always updating such as wx.msg.news. and so on.
The Android pretty much controls the available memory so don't run on and add on a "Task Killer".
I didn't catch what Rom your running but VZW crapware is a memory leach.
Time to start snooping around and get that phone working for you.
Best to ya...
yeah im not rooted or anything so I am running stock just using launcher pro
I recommended root the phone with Z4root app and install Autokiller. Preset it at Extreme or Ultimate. Note: Auto Killer is NOT same as Task Killer. Is similar but they are not same app. If you have low RAM, it tends to delay or freeze the phone. Auto Killer will definately help. Odds are you have too many apps running simultaneously.
I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
It's normal. I'm completely stock and I hover in the 40s as well.
just bumpin so hopefully someone could be so kind and answer my questions
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I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
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Rooting start to finish can be under 10-15 minutes pretty easily.
When new updates come, usually you must un-root (at least I did to get this last update with Madden, etc), get the update, then re-root again. It's fairly simple.
Once you're rooted you can do additional things you couldn't do previously, remove bloatware (VZN crapware), do things like WIFI tether, and also install themes, remove ads from free/trial apps, etc. I am rooted and only did it for WIFI tethering and honestly use LauncherPro so don't have a need for themes yet. I may actually re-root only because I'm not taking full advantage anyway. The nice thing here is it is ALL at your discretion. Once rooted, you would continue to use the Market as you did previously, nothing changes there to get apps and such.
Rooting is not the same as "flashing" a ROM if you came from Windows. All it does is unlock it somewhat to allow for additional SuperUser permissions. None of your apps will change unless you change ROMs.
Go for it, just make sure you read lots before doing it. If all else fails, remember you can reverse what you did!
rayne58 said:
I want to root but tbh im a little scared to if someone could answer these questions haha I will most likely do it lol
around how long does it take?
when a new update comes like do I have to wait for an updated root to be released?? or does it just update like normal
im not afraid to brick my phone cuz that isn't too common it seems but what does Verizon do if they know that you are rooted??
once I am rooted then what?? I know about roms and stuff but what about root only apps?? is there a seperate market or something??
do I have to re do all the apps and settings that I have or can I restore my old stuff once I am rooted
my main concern though is with the updates and with Verizon im not sure what happens with both of them?
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Rooting is VERY easy and allows you root level access to the system. You can install apps, ROMs, themes, etc that you wouldn't have been able to otherwise.
Shoot me a PM. I'm always glad to lend a hand.
How is the phone running? If its running fine, i'd say just let it be.
I've seen it in a few posts around the forums, "free memory is wasted memory" the Android OS should make room for itself. In some aspects you are better off having the apps you use the most running, meaning you don't have to wait for them to load.
I'd say if you are having some performance issues, then look to rooting/removing apps, otherwise, let the ram do what its supposed to do and hold data.
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
I see a lot of stuff on this forum about rooting however and I'm curious what the practical benafits to rooting are. I origionally had planned to route the iconia because I heard it didn't support netflix but the netflix app seems to work fine on my device so I'm happy there.
There were a lot of things that made me want to route my phone (Samsung Epic) such as the desire to tether other devices to it and get rid of all the Samsung, pre-istalled BS and Touch Wiz which made the phone run slowly. Those considerations don't exist here as Honey Comb seems to be plenty fast and there doesn't appear to be many BS additions from Acer.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
I rooted my a500 so I could connect to ad-hoc networks and use ntfs drives.
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MalachiX said:
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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It is a very personal question in the sense that there is no one, single reason why people root. I for example rooted because I needed ad-hoc wifi, otherwise I could have well survived without rooting. Once I did root my tablet I did of course install CWM so I can take a full backup of the whole thing -- better safe than sorry, as they say -- and tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
Just ask yourself: is there anything I need root for?
I think I root for a few different reasons.
ClockworkMod for nandroid backup and other things.
Titanium backup for app/data backup and easy bloat remove/restore.
AdFree
overclocking and other performance adjustments
Cifs/Samba support - I have 3 androids with share links on my PC desktop for drag-n-drop file copying without wires.
Root explorer of course.
Drive mount seems to need it.
Oh and theming - I like to theme and make small code changes.
Essentially, if you need to ask that question, you don't need to root your device....
You'll know when you need to...
WereCatf said:
....tried a few different ROMs too, though I then went back to stock as it was the least buggy.
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No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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ipetloudog said:
No. I take it you have never heard of tegraowners.com. Its ok, took me a while until I found out too.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
Thanks for the advice everyone.
I was all set to root because I heard that Netflix wasn't functioning on the Iconia and rooting was easy.
Now I find that Netflix works fine and apparently I shouldn't have let my tablet update when I first turned it on.
Guess I'll leave my Iconia alone for now.
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What does that have to do with the fact that I found all the custom ROMs I tried buggy?
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Did you try to get help with the buggies? People are pretty helpful around here. I'm running Honeylicious Icy something and it seems to be perfect so far.
id be waiting for ICS
MalachiX said:
Hey guys,
I just got an Iconia for Christmas and love it to death. Seems like the perfect tablet for me.
So, with all that in mind, what exactly does one gain practically by rooting the Iconia?
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One word really - titanium - there is just no better way to make a full backup.
But having said that - with all the rumors of ICS withing maybe weeks - rooting may not be such a good idea right now ... most OTA updates do tend to have issues with rooted devices.
Westa
why root
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
Havent seen a reason yet to root my A500 as it does everything I want, possibly if I got a wildhair and wanted to install a custom rom. On the other hand I bought a Kindle Fire and I rooted it and had a custom rom installed withing a week, primarily to make it more like my Acer.
beebleboop said:
i root for:
cwm recovery image
optimized roms
titanium backup (altho my stuff is mostly cloud so this is just a bonus)
while i understand why people say only root if you have to, if you've made your way here i'd suggest you do it anyways if only for the clockworkmod recovery while more or less makes your system unbrickable. when you start looking at custom icon packs, gps, wifi and lag fixes, optimized filesystems etc. it gets a lot more appealing.
thanks to those that tirelessly work out the kinks in the process for us.
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Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
I just got mine and always thought I would root it, but I don't see the point yet.
I rooted my Evo so that I can remove bloat, increase battery life, and most important wirelessly tether with my tablet.
The battery life on my tablet seems amazing, honeycomb seems fast and the bloat doesn't bother me as much.
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Honeybar!!!
i rooted and installed thors rom, its awesome.
No real reason either, I just know from past experience every device is made more enjoyable with the right rom.
Plus with ics coming soon ill have to be able to backup my data to survive the upgrade.
I find out About Rooting (or unlocking) before I buy any device
#1 Freezing Apps (like Deleting, only safer -Titanium Backup)
#2 OverClocking to 1.5 Ghz and still being stable (up to 1.64)
#3 Under clock (216,245 mhz) (saving battery life)
#4 fun to be "ABLE" to tweak out something.
#5 Example : -a new trick to get better Wi-Fi or 3G Signal, or better GPS (you'll need ROOT to edit system data)
KNOWING that you can always get back to stock in under 5-7 min (if you have to bring in device)
Leaves you a better question.
"Why have you NOT ROOTED it yet?"
MalachiX said:
Unbrickable? I keep seeing threads of peopleeho havd just bricked their systems while trying to foot. It's the main reason why imhesitant to root.
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Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
I just got this tablet for Xmas, well the Packard bell one but from my understanding there the same. I still need to root mine. I've heard that you can connect a ps3 control if your rooted. Is this the only requirement?
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civato said:
Well bricking your tablet is normal when you try to foot it.
Sorry just made my laugh.
Maybe you should use auto correction.
Or maybe I should keep trying to foot it and see how many attempts I need to brick it.
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OMG very funny.. Sounds like one of my Long winded Quick unedited or checked post. with no spell check or punctuation ......
With that said..
I think if you have to ask WHY ROOT your device.. My Question is what Does your device not do that you need? And will rooting the device solve this for you..
its risk vs benefits . the oldest Android Question in the book .. Should i foot.. or should i not foot...