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I thought it was so strange that when I scanned for bluetooth devices I picked up my (pc) internet modem (which is wireless enabled) so I thought bluetooth and wifi must share a lot of the same characteristics.
I was browsing for the latest Android developments and stumbled on the following
Please take a look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
And this one http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth
This seems to mean that FM Radio and WiFi is a standard feature of OMAP 850 chips and (for the touch owners look at this page http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12028&contentId=4636&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+agps)
Seems If you have Bluetooth you also have wifi and possibly fm radio built in only lacking the drivers (no special wifi antenna is used in the omap 850 solution accoriding to TI)
It would seem that all we need is the right drivers and regsettings (so no new rom or radio rom should be needed)
Who can make it a working cab?
Woooooooooo!
Good news.
great job
if some solution, make me to buy one.
by the soft solution, strange story !no idea for none cost effective option. why do HTC designers make a 2008 PDA with no WiFi Option!
wow
wow...it might be dream come ture if it happens....please some body develop a driver for pharos Fm radio n wifi.....please buit up some regsettings......
This is a good information. Hope that we could make it work on our Pharos.
Good News... I hope who will make it soon because I don't understand about ARM work.
That is an awesome find man. I hope this info is used to get a wifi working ROM.
I thought it was some kind of cost saving to not include wifi, i.e. some missing hardware. If it's just a driver, that is the so friggen stupid! Why have such a great phone and then neuter it by taking away wifi? And the price is still just as high as the Artemis when it came out. The lack of wifi is the only thing that would keep me from buying one. Otherwise, it would be a great upgrade phone for me since I don't need nor have 3G with my service and and it has the cool flush screen that I wish my Artemis had.
someone knows if the touch dual then also could have the wifi option turned on by drivers? the touch normal has wifi, so i guess it should be possible.
anyone tried the drivers from the htc wizard? it also has a ti omap 850, so driver from such a rom could be coocked into the rom of other devices.
@VOODOOS!L
The touch dual uses the Qualcomm 7200 chipset. That chipset uses the arm926tesj as a co processor but i dont think its the full OMAP 850 chiset.
but there is a project for enabling niki wifi (started out as a project ot enabkle both wifi and gps)
@shawndh
Phone manufacterors do it all the time. Look at the Kaiser story, yes they have some great graphical chip (would be too expensive to make a different chiset with another graphical chip) so they just didnt include the drivers for it.
With some other phones like the touch HTC disabled the wifi in the radio rom... maybe some techies here could try to put an artemis radio rom in the pharos... but for none techies this would probably be an instant brick (thats why i didnt try it) tom_codon maybe you could say something about this....input would be apreciated.
Come to think of it, I remember that they had a crippled GPS radio or something in the TyTn I. The only reason I could think of for disabling wifi is so people who need wifi would buy the the Artemis. To be honest, if I had a choice btwn the two, I would get the Pharos over the Artemis if they both had wifi. Even so, it should still have wifi.
This ia a good news.
I'm waiting.
you know what... im giving up.
ive tried pm ing some guys working on the wifi on nike project, asking tomcodon. no response as yet and prolly not going to get one.
And tried to get qtopia and winlizard(gizard) working.
but in the linux world up is down, left is right, and smart is stupid. those people are (in dutch: contactgestoord) communicationally challenged. you cant find anything on their sites. there is no(or very little) documentation on how stuff works ...noone explains anything... so in order to learn linux you have to know it.
thats why m$ can afford to be so sucky: their competition sucks so much more
i said to the guys at irc #linzwizard hey thnx for the build, i can boot it too (gizard aka linwizard 0.3.0) but the touchscreen driver crashes.
he then said make a support request at sourceforge which i did (btw it isnt obvious how to .. it should be very simple. but hey... thats the linux way, isnt it) response was.. and this is a shocker.. your touchscreen driver doesnt work(.... grrreeeaat) you should disable it...(no description on how)
up for the rom with wifi for the pharos!
Thanks
Not to rain on anyone parade but from the first page from TI, it looks like to get wifi support you have to have a special chip in the phone(upper left corner) thats diferent that the chip to get wifi, so unless someone knows for sure that the WiLink chips are present, I think we are without wifi
Wait and see...
The only problem is... How long does it take to finalize such a ROM?
If it takes 1 yr, for example, I think I will have already changed to at least TouchHD..
Anyway, good news!
Hello! I have a HTC Pharos for one month. Yesterday, i accidentally have wetted phone by tea, and then i disassembled it for cleaning. Cleaning was finish sucсessfully, now phone is working
During disassembly of the device I have made some pictures. I think Wlan module is in the device. Look at the photo! Motherboard have many connectors for external antennas, and Wlan connector is on the board!
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
at least (BRF6300) - Bluetooth specification v2.0 + EDR single chip should be in the Pharos since we have that bluetooth spec.
in the picture i can make out the TWL3027 chip with extra designation BZQW (at least i think its that chip ... according to the ti site that would be the baseband chip but it doesnt describe on the site what the extra letters mean)http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12311&contentId=4706
[URL="http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12025&contentId=4645&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+mwlan"]http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbugencontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12019&contentId=4635&DCMP=WTBU&HQS=Other+OT+bluetooth[/URL]
hope this is readable since i have a hangover
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
avathar behemoth said:
thank you for the picture, its in a good resolution! but what would have made it more clear is if you would have looked for a specific Texas instruments chip with letter combinaton BRF or BL (there are 4 chips mentioned with a dual solution BL6450 BRF 6350 BRF6300 and BRF6150 last one is not good because its a bluetooth only chip) we should also be looking for TI chips with a WL designation and number 1271 1273 1251 1253
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Maybe this iron box is Wlan module?
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
I may open this box, if it is requires for this research
And on this picture, front side of device it is found Wlan antenna? (if overwind board, supposed Wlan module with connector correspond (matched) to on position with Wlan antenna, and it connected with module)
http://flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
avathar behemoth said:
Kostyan could you post the other pics you made of the interior of the Pharos
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Of course, there is all photos:
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos2.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos3.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos4.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos5.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos6.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos7.jpg
http://www.flash-remont.narod.ru/pharos/pharos8.jpg
I'm looking for any information on replacing a microphone in a Dash 3g. Does anyone know where I can get the part or if it's the same in the old Dash?
I would be interested in any service manual or parts list available as well.
Any help is appreciated!
Hello,
I have the ThinkPad tablet and I wanted to use the Gobi 3000 wlan card, but I don't have the wlan antennas installed. Does anyone know what part number for the antenna, or where to get it? I even looked in Tabook, and I searched in Google and eBay. Can you point me to the right direction please?
Thank you for your time.
Sent from my ThinkPad Tablet using Tapatalk
Here's the parts list to the thinkpad:
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/0a96158.pdf
I think the antenna may be in the base cover assembly:
"Base cover assembly, 3G capable" 04W3318
gallahad2000 said:
Here's the parts list to the thinkpad:
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/0a96158.pdf
I think the antenna may be in the base cover assembly:
"Base cover assembly, 3G capable" 04W3318
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Thanks for the response.
I have looked into the PDF file that you sent me, and it has some nice info.
It seems that Lenovo does not list the part number for the antenna.
I know that the LAN and wlan are the same antenna, except for the color and length of the wire.
I have seen some pics over the Lenovo forums stating my claim, but I don't remember exactly where (I'm at work as I'm typing this).
If that's the case, then I might as well make my own antenna, or find something that is close to the real antenna.
I will update this thread if I find any more info, or if I find a way to make an antenna for this product.
I know many people has a tablet that does not have the wlan antenna installed.
One more question.
Anyone who has the wlan antenna, can you please take a look at it, and tell me if there is a part number on it?
Can you check the back of the antenna?
Please excuse my spelling and grammer for English is not my first language.
Thank you very much for all your help.
Sent from my ThinkPad Tablet using Tapatalk
D_Smitt said:
Thanks for the response.
I have looked into the PDF file that you sent me, and it has some nice info.
It seems that Lenovo does not list the part number for the antenna.
I know that the LAN and wlan are the same antenna, except for the color and length of the wire.
I have seen some pics over the Lenovo forums stating my claim, but I don't remember exactly where (I'm at work as I'm typing this).
If that's the case, then I might as well make my own antenna, or find something that is close to the real antenna.
I will update this thread if I find any more info, or if I find a way to make an antenna for this product.
I know many people has a tablet that does not have the wlan antenna installed.
One more question.
Anyone who has the wlan antenna, can you please take a look at it, and tell me if there is a part number on it?
Can you check the back of the antenna?
Please excuse my spelling and grammer for English is not my first language.
Thank you very much for all your help.
Sent from my ThinkPad Tablet using Tapatalk
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Don't know if this might help:
http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/2012/01/06/lenovos-thinkpad-tablet-gets-an-fcc-tear-down/
WLAN antennas
Hi,
I encountered similar situation as you are. I have TPT 183822U and has no 3G WLAN option, so I bought separate GOBI 3000 module. When I opened my TPT, I found that there were noextra antennas for GOBI. I bought from semiconductorstore.com and they carry WWAN antennas. I bought FXP14-07-0100A (Cell hepta-band) and PC27-07-0100A (Cell quad-band).
They all work perfectly for ATT 3G reception.
Enjoy!
Senore, sent you a PM. Do you mind posting some details as to how you installed them?
Many thanks!
The antennas themselves are very thin. One came with double-sided tape, so just stuck it on empty space alongside the other existing antenna. Since both antennas are thin you could position them on any space edges of either the vertical or horizontal lengths of TPT. You may have to adjust to attain the highest-bar reception of the 3G signal.
Do the parts you listed provide GPS capability as well?
I had questions like this too, here's what I came up with.
http://blogs.tech-recipes.com/jimmyselix/2011/10/06/modding-adding-3g-to-my-lenovo-thinkpad-tablet/
http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/0a96158.pdf
WLAN antenna is not a 3000 GOBI module
At the start of this thread, we were talking about where to get WLAN antenna for a GOBI module at add the 3G access-functionality of TPT.
A GOBI module cannot function as GPS. Both GPS and GOBI needs antenna. Besides the TPT already has a separate GPS module and its own antenna.
senore said:
Hi,
I encountered similar situation as you are. I have TPT 183822U and has no 3G WLAN option, so I bought separate GOBI 3000 module. When I opened my TPT, I found that there were noextra antennas for GOBI. I bought from semiconductorstore.com and they carry WWAN antennas. I bought FXP14-07-0100A (Cell hepta-band) and PC27-07-0100A (Cell quad-band).
They all work perfectly for ATT 3G reception.
Enjoy!
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Hello,
does our device suppor ANT radio? maybe in some kind of custom rom/application?
thnx
You have any link or info on what "ANT Radio" is?
yes, this is a good site for additional info : http://runningdigital.com/2010/10/30/bluetooth-and-ant-sensor-tech-for-mobile-phones-today/
seems some processors are able with ANT radio , but must be opened with firmware/apps
from previous link :
Android Let me start off by stating that no current Android supports USB dongle-type adapters, like those available to iPhones. While this isn’t great news, I’m more keen on native support solutions anyway than to have something else plugged into my phone before every run. That said, to have native ANT+ support we need the right hardware and firmware specs. Texas Instruments is one of the first, or only, to supply chip sets for mobile phones that supports ANT+ connectivity. I say “supports” because the phone’s firmware has to be written to activate the ANT+ radio, and I have not been able to find an example of this yet. The Motorola Droid X contains the Texas Instruments ANT+ capable WiLink 6.0 chip, however it lacks the out-of-the-box firmware to make ANT+ connectivity possible. Even if you were to enable ANT+ by hack, there still isn’t an app in the Android Market that’s ANT+ ready. Bottom line, widespread Android/ANT+ solutions are going to take some time to be available. *EDIT Sony Ericsson is now the first Android handset maker with ANT+ connectivity solutions. On February 1, 2011, SE began rolling out firmware updates activating ANT+ hardware on their X8 and X10 family. No word found yet on compatible applications. ENDEDIT*
As new as it sounds, especially with something like the Erickson being the first to have it in Android, I kind of Doubt that the Desire-Z/G2 is going to have it.
Though if I knew what to look for in the DMESG output I could tell ya.
i have read om some other website that seems also some HTC desire series are able to have ANT radio, but seems HTC disabled it in the rom...
but cant find the link anymore
NoFatePPC said:
i have read om some other website that seems also some HTC desire series are able to have ANT radio, but seems HTC disabled it in the rom...
but cant find the link anymore
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If the ANT+ Demo app is any indication I would say no. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.antplusdemo&hl=en
T-Mobile HTC HTC Vision
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Course that's assuming that it's based on the latest Stock Rom provided by HTC/T-Mobile.
Only the HTC Rhyme seems to have it for the Endomondo app.
ok, thnx for the feedback
MAJOR EDIT TO THIS POST AS NEW KNOWLEDGE HAS COME THROUGH. (BUT YOU MAY KILL THIS THREAD AND GO INTO THE I9305 forum and go into the I9305 Tear down thread)
The I9305 may or may not have hardware capability for FM radio, But the firmware software doesn't have it installed. The funny thing about this is even the Optus Customer service and technical support are not aware of this, they do beleive they are supposed to have the FM radio.
MOBICITY sells it and there specs show FM radio and I even asked there customer service again and made them triple check and they confirm it has it and I seen a youtube video of the White version but this is from UK and its definitely having the FM radio app. So Maybe some developers can get involved or maybe not, If there is a 3rd party app around that will work in place of the Fm radio app then if it can be posted it would be great thanks. EDIT: Mobicity Now changed and said Because they are coming from Hong Kong there wont be FM radio Installed as per hong Kong Laws. Specs have now been changed on there site a i told them it was false advertising lool
Edit: Apparent Proof that FM radio is in some I9305 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGICeramJxc Look @1:14 4th column 3rd row you see FM radio app- I also messaged the guy and he confirmed it working, Edit: User Said he heard static, Then after more people interrigated him, he seemed to have changed his waysss and said he thought static meant Silence I then questioned him aswell but I basically called B S . In electrical terms static means Hissing/white noise/ Scramble. etcc...... He then questioned me as to why he had it pre-installed on his I9305 ... Apparent I9305??? Is it even a I9305 in the video Or a changed Build.Prop to show different Model number I9305. Can be done in 10 seconds. Cause why would samsung put the Radio FM app in it and its not working. NOT 1 Confirmed I9305 has the FM radio app. Except for that guy. Hmmm..u get my point now.. Anyway After he questioned as to y he had radio I told him to question where he bought it anyways that is the last i heard of him.
More Edit : We have a 9305 Hardware teardown thread, and as we are not hardware minded we cannot confirm 100% yet. Although we do know we have the a broadcom Chipset with the capabilities of FM radio, but the problem there is it is not linked up. So really then we do have the hardware but its not plugged in. Just like the I9300 has The broadcom one which is not hooked up and the Silicon labs which is hooked up, Now i dont think we could locate the silicon labs chipset on the i9305 board from a few pictures show.
SO far there is no 100% proof of this radio so untill then , I say it does not have FM radio. Unless some that knows chips and fm chips please go into the teardown thread and advise us so we may solve this query
As I said I have only seen 1 with the FM radio that you-tube link above shows it and I also emailed the user and he confirmed it working but then after more thorough interrogating the user changed the meanings of his words loll. Anyway Kill this thread. Come into the I9305 arena and go into the (I9305 Teardown thread) if you want to discuss this topic
Thanks for your research man. Unfortunately I'm not 100% convinced since I can't see that the phone is i9305 in the video (only the screenshot below which could be from another phone :/). But, I hope it's true, we just need more evidence and help. Did the youtube guy tell you what firmware he was on?
So you mean the original firmware of i9305 doesn't support FM, so even rooted and use Spirit CANNOT use FM radio feature?
Shujenchang said:
So you mean the original firmware of i9305 doesn't support FM, so even rooted and use Spirit CANNOT use FM radio feature?
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If the hardware is there, then what we need is a kernel driver. Flashing a custom kernel (and/or ROM) with the driver, along with root/SU access should be sufficient.
Hypothetically, a kernel driver could be loaded without a new kernel, but practically it's quite difficult to do. In theory one could also poke the I2C or whatever controller, but that too is not easy.
Latest free release of Spirit is here if you want to help test: http://d-h.st/lfR
Anyone tries, please send me a debug log using Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs. After 10-15 seconds press Send.
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Edit: Proof that FM radio is in some I9305 >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGICeramJxc Look @1:14 4th column 3rd row you see FM radio app- I also messaged the guy and he confirmed it working,
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I watched some of the first hands on videos and saw the FM app, but no video I saw had somebody try it, that I can recall.
I was reading I think about the above person, and the story seems to be that they heard static and thus didn't really confirm full operation. They may have been in a bad reception area though.
Static is actually a good sign to some extent. It indicates the FM audio path is there and usable. And I think static is better than relative silence, which you might get when an antenna pin is grounded to disable all usefulness.
It's possible that a software controlled switch exists for the antenna connection, or a hardware jumper. It's also possible that US variants won't have the Silicon Labs chip installed, but other variants might.
mikereidis said:
If the hardware is there, then what we need is a kernel driver. Flashing a custom kernel (and/or ROM) with the driver, along with root/SU access should be sufficient.
Hypothetically, a kernel driver could be loaded without a new kernel, but practically it's quite difficult to do. In theory one could also poke the I2C or whatever controller, but that too is not easy.
Latest free release of Spirit is here if you want to help test:
Anyone tries, please send me a debug log using Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs. After 10-15 seconds press Send.
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Sent you the logs (with signature "Shujen Chang" in my email).
P.S. I'm using Hong Kong version of i9305.
Shujenchang said:
Sent you the logs (with signature "Shujen Chang" in my email).
P.S. I'm using Hong Kong version of i9305.
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Got it, thanks.
I see something in your log I hadn't noticed before, but it's also in the other logs too:
10-25 22:04:21.955 I/dalvikvm(16354): DexOpt: not resolving ambiguous class 'Lcom/samsung/media/fmradio/FMPlayer;'
10-25 22:04:21.970 D/dalvikvm(16354): DexOpt: not verifying/optimizing 'Lcom/samsung/media/fmradio/FMEventListener;': multiple definitions
10-25 22:04:21.970 D/dalvikvm(16354): DexOpt: not verifying/optimizing 'Lcom/samsung/media/fmradio/FMPlayer;': multiple definitions
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What this means is that the Framework code is there for FM. If there's a chip and we can load a driver, then there's a good chance the Samsung GT-i9300 or GT-i7100 FM app would work.
But we're no closer to knowing if the FM chip is there. Here's the teardown thread in progress: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33275259