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Something that's been on a few sites over the past few days: A ten inch version of the tab is slated to appear in 2011. Details seem a little scanty, but I think we can assume it'll run the same specs with a 10inch display. Must have a bigger battery, since it'll be physically bigger and have a more demanding screen, but if that translates to more actual life-time is yet to be seen.
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I think we'll see it similarly dropping on just about every major carrier, and with a Wifi only version too.
So, would the 10inch Tab interest you more than the 7inch ?
Personally, I am much more about something that fits into a jacket pocket, but for those who have been grumbling about a 7inch not being worth it over a high end smartphone, maybe this is the device for you. For anyone worrying about price (which is apparently a lot of people) would 3 extra inches of real estate for only a few extra bucks make you look more favourably on it ?
Obviously, this seems to be aiming at competing with the similarly sized Archos, although probably without the harddrive option, but then again we've had rumours of USB host, which would allow expanding the storage.
As a final piece of theory crafting: Could this be the rumoured SAMOLED Tab for next year ? I always thought it would be weird to upgrade the standard Tab so quickly, and if this device stays around 1024x768 (can't see them going higher before a substantial OS update) then SAMOLED would dramatically improve the video viewing experience though better contrast and colours without having to up the pixel density.
So yeah... What do you guys think ? Better ? Worse ? Is samsung trying to make every single possible permutation of the Galaxy hardware ?
i personally want the 7 inch version. i want to have something that i can slip in my pocket and take with me everywhere.
10 inch is nice though. it is always good to have another option, after all, different people want different things. whether or not it has SAMOLED well depend on if Samsung's new manufacturing plant is finished. once they have the capacity to meet the demand, i am sure they will start to move all of their products in the direction of SAMOLED.
i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.
unitea said:
i personally want the 7 inch version. i want to have something that i can slip in my pocket and take with me everywhere.
10 inch is nice though. it is always good to have another option, after all, different people want different things. whether or not it has SAMOLED well depend on if Samsung's new manufacturing plant is finished. once they have the capacity to meet the demand, i am sure they will start to move all of their products in the direction of SAMOLED.
i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.
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Would be nice we would have a phone which is small and a possibility to hook an external display/keyboard (5 inch, 7 inch, 10 inch, 12 inch, 19 inch, 21 inch). So you have the best of both worlds
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i think the 10 inch version will release with either gingerbread or honeycomb. Samsung has hinted that honeycomb will be a whole new user experience, which is why the 7 inch tab will not get upgraded beyond gingerbread. anyway, gingerbread/honeycomb should allow the 10 inch Tab to have a higher resolution, and if i remember correctly should be available by the end of 2010.
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It'll all depend on exactly when the 10inch drops I guess. Samsung has been dragging its feet on a Froyo update, so we'll have to wait and see with Gingerbread, but a ten inch screen would definitely look handsome at the proposed 1366×768.
Personally, I think that if the 10inch gets Honeycomb, then the 7inch will too. I mean, we're talking about identical hardware, as far as I know anyway.
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It'll all depend on exactly when the 10inch drops I guess. Samsung has been dragging its feet on a Froyo update, so we'll have to wait and see with Gingerbread, but a ten inch screen would definitely look handsome at the proposed 1366×768.
Personally, I think that if the 10inch gets Honeycomb, then the 7inch will too. I mean, we're talking about identical hardware, as far as I know anyway.
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hey, if samsung doesn't want to upgrade it to honeycomb, we can
10inch ftw. I have a Vibrant for my pocket.
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hey, if samsung doesn't want to upgrade it to honeycomb, we can
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Hehe indeed. It's all the same hardware, so if any in the Galaxy line gets honey, then it shouldn't be a major problem to move it to the others.
I couldn't find any posts that went into detail regarding the differences between the 8.9 and the 10.1.
Am I right in thinking the only difference between the two are the screen size? Obviously, this brings the following implicit differences:
8.9 is lighter
8.9 is smaller (although thickness is the same)
8.9 has a higher pixel density (because screen resolutions are the same).
8.9 being lighter and smaller means it is more portable
8.9 is probably cheaper (this is my guess)
The on-board memory options for both may be different (e.g. the 8.9 may not come in a 64GB option where as the 10.1 may eventually have this option).
Apart from availability of the 10.1 will be sooner than the 8.9, I'm not sure what the benefit is for me to get the 10.1.
I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts?
Size matters (insert joke). Everything else will likely remain the same. get 8.9 if you want something a little more portable, or if you have small hands..
If you want something truly diffrent, wait for the second gen 7" rumored to run Exynos.
You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
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You are pretty much correct with all that, but if you are in North America, you're most likely to have 10.1 with Vanilla honeycomb, and also that when 8.9 launches - it will be pre installed with touchWiz, Apparently where I live - both 10.1 and 8.9 will be with touch wiz preinstalled !
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple. Honestly, I when I first saw the 10.1, I thought it was a little small lol; the idea of (that much) less screen real-estate doesn't seem fathomable =) [the lack of TouchWiz was a big selling point for me]
Unless you can do without the extra screen size, I'd go with a 10.1 -if you really don't care about screen size, follow the other gentleman's advice and with the new 7" when it comes out.
Isn't the 8.9 supposed to come out with a thicker screen that's less bright? That was the rumor a few weeks ago. Apparently the manufacturers are having a hard time with the 8.9 screen size and might have to use a thicker, heavier screen.
It's not clear how Samsung plans on handling this. They are having trouble with the yields for the screens on the 8.9, which would seem to indicate that some tablets will get the same screen as the 10.1 while others will get the thicker, less bright screens. It will probably vary by market.
I decided to get a 10.1 after the issues with the 8.9 screens were reported. I could deal with a thicker tablet - after all, the screens themselves are 40% thicker - but how much of the thickness of the total tablet is the actual screen? I would imagine even with the "lesser" screen the 8.9 would come in at under 10mm easily, so no big deal to me. But the 40% reduction is brightness is a big deal to me. That would take it's impact on the battery life, so thanks but no thanks!
WiFi antennas and heat?
I read some where that the 8.9 has only 1 WiFi antenna vs the 10.1 that supposedly has 2...
Don't if that's true and if we will notice much a difference (I suppose we will).
The other thing that would only be speculation on my part, is that maybe the 8.9 could run a little hotter by having less space to dissipate heat?
Any ideas about this?
I'm happy with my screen size. Neitherone is all that portable to be walking around town on a regular basis.
I'd rather have more screen realestate since I'm mostly using it primarily at home.
7" is the way to go for portability, in my opinion.
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By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
ericc191 said:
By the time the 8.9 is released, newer and better tablets will be up for preorder.
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
frychiko said:
And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I agree, but we're very close right now. Tegra2 has been around for quite awhile, remember?
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And when those newer, and better tablets get released, there'll be even newer, better tablets up for preorder! It never ends!
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I think he has a point. Samsung is taking a long time to get the 8.9 out. I'm sure they're not pleased about this either, however if they take too much longer, then the 8.9 will be competing against the first crop of quad-core Kal-El powered tablets, not to mention the other faster dual core solutions. I don't have any performance issues with the Tegra 2 in my day to day use, but the fact remains that it's not exactly a screamer. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 (and presumably the 8.9) compares favorably when the competition is pretty much just comprised of other Tegra 2 equipped devices, however things won't be so pretty when the competition is leaving the Galaxy Tab in the dust.
However, who knows what the first Kal-El tablets will look like - they may be shoddy and rushed to market for the Holiday season. I just wish Samsung had used something other than the Tegra 2.
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Yes - And owning a 10.1 I have to say, having a "vanilla" OS is the way to go. Very clean and simple.
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I disagree. Vanilla OS means no DLNA support, no various video codec support. I want TW for nothing but DLNA (AllShare) and various video codecs that my current Samsung Galaxy S phone already supports, including DIVX. Not to mention the email client (with exchange support) Samsung was able to pack into the Galaxy S phones is 1000% better than Google ever shipped.
The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The 8.9 tab doesn't fit your pocket, so the argument of portability is relative.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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The size of pockets is also relative. It sure does fit in that guy's suit pocket when Samsung Demoed 8.9 in CTIA.
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That must have been a custom made suit, because the pockets on my suit are not that wide.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/samsu...d-mwc-reveal?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Name: Galaxy Note 8.0
Product numbers: GT-N5100 (Wifi), GT-N5110 (Wifi/3G)
Battery: 4600mAh
Dimensions: 211.3x136.3x7.95mm
Weight: 330 grams
Screen: 8.0-inch Super Clear LCD @ 1280x800 resolution
Data: Quad-band EDGE, quad-band HSPA+ up to 21.1Mbps down, 5.76Mbps up (GT-N5110 only)
Cameras: 5MP rear, 1.3MP front
RAM: 2GB
Storage: 16/32GB options, expandable via microSD card
OS: Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
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smaller battery than the 7.7, no OLED screen and compared to the ipad mini, the benchmarks seem lower (there is a link on sammobile comparing them). I do hope the performance will be better. If priced right, should be a nice tablet, but I feel there might a lot of tablets introduced at MWC this year.
It seems like they are going for the budget tablet crowd this time, that is too bad but who can blame them with the success of the 200 dollar tablets.
I really wanted to get a 8-9 inch upgrade for the 7.7 but worse battery life and screen will probably be a deal breaker for me.
No need. Quite vanilla. Pass.
Seems that 7.7 is srill best buy Got mine today! Awesome tab, not small, not large, and ability to use as phone, just superb!
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SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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TeeeJaay said:
SLCD... meh...
unless this one packs the new octa-core exynos that will be the time i may look into it
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rumor says same as Note 10.1 & 2
Doubt this will sway me over to upgrade. The specs look ****ty.
I just picked up a Nexus 10 and may eventually drop my 7.7 depending on usage scenarios. Lack of a completed CM rom (9, 10 or 10.1) due to Samsung is the main culprit. Maintainers for Exynos4 devices may not last much longer, which sucks ;[
on a brighter note, you can use it as your gps navigator, or you can even let the screen on for some time without worrying about burn ins.
Its not close. It simply sucks compared with the 7.7
Hopefully we'll get a JB update for our Tabs that will allow us to keep it long enough to see an update worth upgrading
Honestly Samsung can do better. Like a 1080p Super Amoled screen a battery a least the same size as the 7.7 (Come on the Note III is rumored to have a 5,000mA battery !! Bigger than this crap 8" Note !! Something' wrong there !), etc...
Would explain why Samsung are reluctant to provide the JB update for the 7.7 (at least not until these new tablets are available). 7.7 + JB would be tough to beat even with older processor
Guys the market has moved enormously since the 7.7 was announced and then launched.
When the 7.7 was announced the only real competition was Apple and the 7.7 was priced against the Ipad and component costs could therefore be quite high.
Since then prices for tablets have tumbled about 50% and as a consequence component costs have got squeezed.
While we all love the SuperA screens on our tabs I suspect the costings mean it's unlikely to be on another product anytime soon, everything after including phones has been Pentile screen AFAIK.
The next 'flexible' screen looks really interesting but I hate to think of the manufacturing cost and therefore how much the tablet will cost......
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I think breaking the current pixel barrier on 7 inch screens is something that all of the manufacturers are struggling with, especially with price expectations being what they are now compared to when the 7.7 was first released.
product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
Bandage said:
product sheet revealed also...Quad-Core 1.6 Ghz. Exynos, I'd imagine.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/0...-galaxy-note-8-galaxy-young-galaxy-x-cover-2/
My guess...the slightly smaller battery & Super Clear LCD will put it right around $299-$349 price point
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Any thoughts on how that display will compare to AMOLED?
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Comparison testing has shown AMOLED screens to have higher contrasts, deeper blacks, etc. Also better outside viewing & power consumption.
Not to say that Sony's Super Clear LCD is terrible...on the contrary, it can really shine in the right scenarios. I really think price point is the sole reason the Note 8.0 will be featuring it.
I'd be willing to place money on this being a sub $300 device
they should've made two of these, one aimed for the low-mid market (w/ LCD) and the one aimed for people with deep pocket
seriously, this is not a replacement for out 7.7 it's just another Note, just like the note 10.1 was made not as a replacement for Tab 10.1
Too bad, I was hoping for a 7.7 Note w/ the SAMOLED+ screen. I wouldn't even care as much about higher resolution, as I'm fine w/ the 7.7's and same specs as Note2 would satisfy me. What I do want is the stylus w/ airview, & MultiView as I sometimes wish my Note2 and 7.7 were one device.
^likewise, but what sammy did was lower down the bar just to compete with a lower spec'd iPad Mini, even our old 7.7 will whip the ipad easily, I've seen the mini, compared it side by side with my 7.7 and immediately, there's a striking difference in screen quality and resolution.
Then I remembered, the Galaxy tab 10.1 2 is another "DOWNGRADE" from the original 10.1
hey sammy should start making a new low budget tablet line tagged under NEBULA series LOL
well... at least it still has the earpiece?
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/01/24/leaked-samsung-galaxy-note-8-0/
honestly i am not sure who to blame here. Google decided to use a horrible ui for all tablets from 4.2 forward essentially using just a enlarged phone ui.
So in response samsung just made a huge phone hardware...
Didn't see another posting, or I'm VERY late to the party...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2237774/samsung-will-launch-an-8in-galaxy-note-at-mwc
"This news doesn't come from a loose-lipped Samsung staffer, it comes from Samsung Mobile president J.K. Shin. Speaking to Korean news website News1, Shin revealed that the firm will unveil the 8in Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 at the Barcelona mobile technology show in a few weeks.
Although Shin didn't reveal what we can expect from the Galaxy Note 8.0, there's talk that the device will feature Google's Android 4.2 Jelly Bean mobile operating system, a quad-core 1.6GHz processor, dual cameras, microSD memory expansion and a 4,600mAh battery. As it carries Samsung's Galaxy Note branding, we're assuming that it will come with a stylus and Samsung's productivity focused software features.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1yJMH)"
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Didn't see another posting, or I'm VERY late to the party...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2237774/samsung-will-launch-an-8in-galaxy-note-at-mwc
"This news doesn't come from a loose-lipped Samsung staffer, it comes from Samsung Mobile president J.K. Shin. Speaking to Korean news website News1, Shin revealed that the firm will unveil the 8in Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 at the Barcelona mobile technology show in a few weeks.
Although Shin didn't reveal what we can expect from the Galaxy Note 8.0, there's talk that the device will feature Google's Android 4.2 Jelly Bean mobile operating system, a quad-core 1.6GHz processor, dual cameras, microSD memory expansion and a 4,600mAh battery. As it carries Samsung's Galaxy Note branding, we're assuming that it will come with a stylus and Samsung's productivity focused software features.
The Inquirer (http://s.tt/1yJMH)"
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i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
I agree, had the Nexus 7 for a week or so before returning it and getti g my Note 10.1. The big screen works better for sketching and writing notes, a lot easier on my old eyes as well. Am not going back to 7 or 8 inch screen, samsung, make it a 12 inch and I will buy 3.
I really don't understand Samsung. Guess I'm not alone on that one, but diluting the Note line is madness.
By all means release an 8 inch tablet, but I wonder how many people will buy a Note 2/3 now? I wouldn't buy an 8 inch note having used the note 1 and the note 10.1 I am still looking to buy a Note 2. I think its creating confusion in an already crazily confused line.
Well, as I posted in another thread, the size of the Note 10.1 is an issue (for me at least) and I was very happy with the size of the Nexus 7, but I really wanted a fine tip stylus like the s-pen. So I'm thinking when the 8 is out I might sell the 10.1 to get that one. Assuming of course it meets other requirements (price, MicroSD slot, ability to be rooted).
As for coming with 4.2 - umm...that's kind of a downgrade. LOL I had it on my Nexus 7 AND my Galaxy Nexus...both are back on 4.1.2 which is much nicer, more stable, more app compatible, and less of a headache.
I think I'd be interested in a 8in. Version. I do already have 2 nexus 7's and looking to get a note 2 phone..lol I love my Nexus 7. Only way I would get this 8in. Is if it has a higher resolution screen or its vastly superior to Nexus7 one. The processor in this upcoming device sounds good. But I think this is needed by Samsung. As the Ipad mini is doing very well. So well that it has cannabilized the sales of its larger counterpart. Apple plans on releasing a new updated ipad4/5. Which will be lighter and with bezels similar to Ipad mini. A new Ipad mini will release also. It'll have retina display and the new processor found in latest Ipad. Apple has finally realized they can't wait whole years to release devices. Android is releasing new tablets and phones like hotcakes. Android has finallyncaught up to the point to where its making apple do things it normally didn't do. Yes apple still selling well, But everyone is seeing its not the untouchable company it use to be. There's no new innovation happening at apple. They only giving people what they want versus how Steve jobs use to giving people what "HE" THOUGHT they'd need. You've already seen how apple shares have been plummetting. They already losing badly on the phone front to Android. Android is the most widely used mobile operating in the world. Internationally. With the mobile space moving towards mobile computing, Android is seen as the better OS. IOS is stale now and seen as stagnant as far as innovation goes. Tech sites and reviewers that were hard core apple fanatics and biased are finally seeing this. Investors are scared now at apples future. So the way apple is reacting is to release devices more frequently to keep them more competitive throughout the "ENTIRE" year.
Apple Ipad mini has been sort of a success. Last thing android need is apple trying to take over the small tablet segment. Nexus 7 was a huge success for Google and Asus. Now its time for Samsung to release a great quality 8in. Tablet to stay competitive. IMO, the smaller galaxy tab sucks..lol. the 8in. Note would blow it away on features and capabilities. They will likely phase out the smaller tab line. And replace it with the smaller note. Since the note 10.1 was so well received in its qualities and sales. Consumer reports even rate our tablet higher than new Ipad. And all they ever use to do was praise/be biased towards apple. Not anymore. They see the nkteb10.1 for what it is. Which is its a great device.
Samsung needs tl release this asap. To put apple in check. I'd easily see people getting a 8in. Note over an Ipad mini. Based on features and capabilities alone. Lets do it Samsung! Lol
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Well, as I posted in another thread, the size of the Note 10.1 is an issue (for me at least) and I was very happy with the size of the Nexus 7, but I really wanted a fine tip stylus like the s-pen. So I'm thinking when the 8 is out I might sell the 10.1 to get that one. Assuming of course it meets other requirements (price, MicroSD slot, ability to be rooted).
As for coming with 4.2 - umm...that's kind of a downgrade. LOL I had it on my Nexus 7 AND my Galaxy Nexus...both are back on 4.1.2 which is much nicer, more stable, more app compatible, and less of a headache.
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On my nexus7 I'm running TeamEOS 4 nightlies, which is on 4.2.1. Runs great for me and no issues with anything or app capabilities. Very stable and major improvement over previous versions, IMO. Definitely glad I upgrade j.b. version. Now all my devices on JB(my note 10.1, 2 nexus 7's, and my Samsung Galaxy S3).
i'd prefer an 8.9 (or 9") like the gt 8.9 i had. i'd get rid of my nook hd+ if they keep the gn8 easy to root. that nook hd+ gets some incredible standby time. it's been 10 days since i've used it and i'v only lost 8%.
I understand that a lot of people like having tablets in the 7"-9" range.. but to me, it's kind of silly. I mean, my phone is decently big already, and my tablet is medium sized in any sense of the word. I feel like Samsung should march on with the Multiwindow features and stick them on bigger tablets (if I got another tablet, I'd want it the size of my computer monitor right now, or at least maybe 13"-15"), but of course, I don't know how Samsung determined the marketability of these devices so maybe they have their own reasons.. :/
Icrap mini killer is on the way for 199 I might want one I mean the note is 5.5 my note is 10.1 y not finish it with the 8
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planning on waiting for this model to come out ever since the rumors started on it.
but i am glad that i already got the Note 10.1
this Note 8 will be my primary phone and well the Note 10.1 will be the tablet with phone features.
i am really glad that samsung made a tablet with phone features. no regrets or complain about it.
=)
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i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Hmm, then it'd probably be more like 12x10 to account for the bezels..
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Actually the perfect size for a note would be 11x8.5.
Why that's the size of a letter sized legal pad, something I'm used to.
Not only that. The paper industry has been making legal pads for over 100 years. They know what size works best.
Plus drawers, briefcases, backpacks are designed for letter sized legal pads.
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Only in America - the rest of the world uses A4!!
Anyway, with a bezel, that's too big for a Tablet - IMO.
younix258 said:
i would be excited except i feel like the note 10.1 is the perfect size. the only interesting part about this is the fact that it might come with 4.2 which would probably mean an update for us or at least some very decent ports.
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agree. I have the note 10.1 and i think its not big enough for me to take notes. sometime I feel like I need something bigger lol. I would say 8'' is just too small to take notes
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Only in America - the rest of the world uses A4!!
Anyway, with a bezel, that's too big for a Tablet - IMO.
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yeah, you guys use some weird 8. somthing by 11.29 sheet.
also, legal is actually 8.5x14. us letter is 8.5x11.
Riki1kenobi said:
I really don't understand Samsung. Guess I'm not alone on that one, but diluting the Note line is madness.
By all means release an 8 inch tablet, but I wonder how many people will buy a Note 2/3 now? I wouldn't buy an 8 inch note having used the note 1 and the note 10.1 I am still looking to buy a Note 2. I think its creating confusion in an already crazily confused line.
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Unfortunately these crazy things happen all the time.
What about the Tab 2 that was released days after the tab plus and tab 7.7, ruining the market for those fine devices because noobs think that of course a tab 2 is faster then a tab plus or Tab 7.7. The Tab 2 is a downgrade in specs and is much cheaper then the tab 7.7. A cheaper, downgraded device with a name that sounds like an upgrade. How crazy was that?
And they wanted to release the Note 10.1 with some old exynos or even old omap processor, thank god somebody woke up and they decided to modify the note and put the newer exynos into it.
In 2012, Samsung released more then 170 Android device types (not including the different colors).
Samsung wants to cover every small niche, hoping it is what people are waiting for.
Samsung has to go after the Nexus 7 market, so they have to get out with something 7/8 Inch.
And.... we are now used to it.... but the Note concept was the phablet, half phone/ half tablet...
Remember: is it a phone? is it a tablet? no, it is a Note!
So when they announced the Note 10.1 many thought, wtf... a 10 inch Phablet? a 10 inch notebook?
Our note is a Tablet. The Wifi model is certainly not a Phablet. So they spent millions to build the phablet concept and then they spread it to a 10.1 device.
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yeah, you guys use some weird 8. somthing by 11.29 sheet.
also, legal is actually 8.5x14. us letter is 8.5x11.
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Who's weird??
Of the 196 countries in the world 194 use (mostly 100 percent) the International Standards Association (ISO216) standard for paper sizes. Only TWO (USA and Canada) use the variety of "weird" sizes that you refer to - 8.5x11.5 inch 8.5x14 inch and also 8x10.5 inch (a few more countries are still using inches - but not many).
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2. This starts with the base A0 which is 1 sq metre.
Successive paper sizes in the series A1, A2, A3, and so forth, are defined by halving the preceding paper size along the larger dimension. The most frequently used paper size is A4 measuring 210 by 297 millimetres (8.3 in × 11.7 in).
The significant advantage of this system is its scaling: if a sheet with an aspect ratio of Rt2 is divided into two equal halves parallel to its shortest sides, then the halves will again have an aspect ratio of Rt2. Folded brochures of any size can be made by using sheets of the next larger size, e.g. A4 sheets are folded to make A5 brochures. The system allows scaling without compromising the aspect ratio from one size to another—as provided by office photocopiers, e.g. enlarging A4 to A3 or reducing A3 to A4. Similarly, two sheets of A4 can be scaled down and fit exactly 1 sheet without any cutoff or margins. Weights are easy to calculate as well: a standard A4 sheet made from 80 gram/m2 paper weighs 5 grams (as it is one 16th of an A0 page, measuring 1 m2), allowing one to easily compute the weight—and associated postage rate—by counting the number of sheets used.
The US uses a complete mish-mash of systems purportedly based on a quarter of the reach of a paper vatman's arms!! No-one has any idea how the aspect ratio evolved.
To make a computing device based on these principles - for just one country in the world (Canada is slowly changing to ISO sizes) - would truly be weird!
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Who's weird??
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You noticed they managed to have us all use their inches to describe screen sizes?
pwatkins said:
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2.
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What's "highly logical" about an aspect ratio of 1 to square root of 2.
pwatkins said:
Who's weird??
Of the 196 countries in the world 194 use (mostly 100 percent) the International Standards Association (ISO216) standard for paper sizes. Only TWO (USA and Canada) use the variety of "weird" sizes that you refer to - 8.5x11.5 inch 8.5x14 inch and also 8x10.5 inch (a few more countries are still using inches - but not many).
The rest of the world uses a highly logical system based on the aspect ratio of 1 to sq root 2. This starts with the base A0 which is 1 sq metre.
Successive paper sizes in the series A1, A2, A3, and so forth, are defined by halving the preceding paper size along the larger dimension. The most frequently used paper size is A4 measuring 210 by 297 millimetres (8.3 in × 11.7 in).
The significant advantage of this system is its scaling: if a sheet with an aspect ratio of Rt2 is divided into two equal halves parallel to its shortest sides, then the halves will again have an aspect ratio of Rt2. Folded brochures of any size can be made by using sheets of the next larger size, e.g. A4 sheets are folded to make A5 brochures. The system allows scaling without compromising the aspect ratio from one size to another—as provided by office photocopiers, e.g. enlarging A4 to A3 or reducing A3 to A4. Similarly, two sheets of A4 can be scaled down and fit exactly 1 sheet without any cutoff or margins. Weights are easy to calculate as well: a standard A4 sheet made from 80 gram/m2 paper weighs 5 grams (as it is one 16th of an A0 page, measuring 1 m2), allowing one to easily compute the weight—and associated postage rate—by counting the number of sheets used.
The US uses a complete mish-mash of systems purportedly based on a quarter of the reach of a paper vatman's arms!! No-one has any idea how the aspect ratio evolved.
To make a computing device based on these principles - for just one country in the world (Canada is slowly changing to ISO sizes) - would truly be weird!
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i know, i work in print. i was just messing with you, lol.:highfive:
Just read this article. When do you expect the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 be available on sale? I am considering to buy the Galaxy 10.1 2014 this month but if the Pro will be available in two months, perhaps I should wait.
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2013/12/23/samsung-galaxy-note-pro-leaks-in-new-image/
I am looking forward to this tablet as well will buy it as soon as it is out and then decide which note I will keep
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As much as they sell the 10.1 for I'm thinking the 12.2 will cost more than any android tablet should ever sell for.
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I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.
I thought I would want this, but using the 10.1 2014 edition, I can't possibly have anything else. It's the perfect size.
Yeah, you also have to wonder what the battery life will be like. I don't think I would gain anything from a 12" tablet that isn't running Windows. Also, it better have some kind of quick charge going on. Charge time on the 2014 is brutal.
Steve
From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?
While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?
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Screen size is larger but resolution is the same so it wouldn't make a difference as far as lag is concerned, that's only rumoured spec anyhow.
Theres going to be four new tablets from samsung all rumoured to be out before March at the latest, with the 12.2 being one of the first released.
In that case, perhaps I should hold the purchase for the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and upgrade my Note 2 to Note 3.
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While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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Good point. I'd rather see a 4:3 10" Android-powered tablet than a 12.2 or a 12.3 that is 16:10 or (eww) 16:9. It is frustrating that the only decent 4:3 tablet is the iPad (although HP did just come out with the HP Slate Pro 8, but the specs on that are pretty weak).
So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P
Anicane said:
So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P
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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.
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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.
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I agree, it'll most likely be more expensive, might as well buy a laptop or surface pro and be more productive.
I want one of these just because it's bigger, but there are just too many drawbacks. With the increase in screen size (which is substantial), there is a significant increase in weight and price with a drop in ppi
It's rumored to be 750g, which is actually only 3 oz heavier than an iPad 4, which actually isn't that bad considering the size.
I use my Note 10.1 while travelling. I take notes at clients sites, and I use t for reading and gaming in the airports. Even the 10" can get a little heavy for holding when reading, so I don't think I would want the additional weight of a larger tablet. For travellers weight is the enemy. I like a decent sized screen, but I have to balance that with weight.
A couple months ago I would have also gravitated toward the 12 - inch tablet. However, seeing the lower sales numbers for this device, due to the high price and how it has suppressed the development of custom ROMs, I have changed my perspective.
Thanks to Scott for Clean ROM, and finally breaking the log jam.
I cannot imagine the weight difference being noticeable in the long run, if you get the big dog.
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What's funny is the 7-8" crowd thinks we're all nuts for having a 10" tablet. Different strokes.
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I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.
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My exact thoughts.
Sent from my freekin huge Note 10.1 ?
I own the Nexus 10 (same screen size and resolution of SGN 10.1 2014) and an HP TM2 12.2 hybrid tablet/notebook. The HP can be used either as a tablet with pen or by rotating the screen it can be used as a touch notebook. Comparing the 10.1" screen to the 12.2" screen; the 12.2" is significantly larger. I use my tablet for web browsing and while the 10.1" does a nice job, the 12.2 is much less fatiguing to use. You wouldn't realize this unless you could switch from one to the other and directly compare them. But since the Nexus 10 is much more convenient to handle, it is my go to tablet right now.
I'm definitely going to pickup the PRO when it is introduced and compare it directly to the Nexus 10 for daily use. I will either go with the PRO or the SGN 10.1 2014. Because of the pretty drastic difference in size, I think it will not take long to develop a clear preference in actual use. The PRO may be to big ... or maybe not.
Many people felt the SG Note was too big to be used as a phone, but I have really enjoyed my Note 2 and now my Note 3. When I switch to smaller phones they seem seriously inconvenient to use.