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Samifirmware tweeted 4 days ago about the gingerbread update for us!
http://mobile.twitter.com/samfirmware/status/28802629756784641
Latest Android news from our side. Samsung still plans Android 2.3 for Galaxy Tab and Galaxy S release allround end Q1 begin Q2.
4 days ago*from web
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Remember that we were supposed to have froyo in september
True :/ maybe they meant 2012 then? Aha
samfirmware is very unreliable source
zorxd said:
Remember that we were supposed to have froyo in september
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Yeah, but we got it in october, remember, just one month later, so what's the problem? If they're one month late, I'm still happy.
End of Q1 is already FAR-FAR AWAY. I hope we will get some usable leak a lot earlier.
They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.
mstrandbo said:
Yeah, but we got it in october, remember, just one month later, so what's the problem? If they're one month late, I'm still happy.
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In Canada it was in December.
JCopernicus said:
They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.
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google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together
JCopernicus said:
They should get a clue and skip over to 3.0.
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Why would that help? You think things would go much faster if they are tracking pre-release builds which are constantly changing? Also, they will still need to update their apps anyway..
Auzy said:
Why would that help? You think things would go much faster if they are tracking pre-release builds which are constantly changing? Also, they will still need to update their apps anyway..
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Having to rebase after 3.0 is cut next month is double the work for samsung, assuming they've already started rebasing for 2.3. Probably would go faster to drop the current iteration being worked on, instead of finishing that build, just to start again on the next one.
I mean they should hold of on whatever work they are doing for a 2.3 build and wait for the next line to be cut and then work on that. They don't HAVE to upgrade systematically between builds.
No rush, take time, do it right, put out a proper polished firmware. No interim release.
kunjar said:
No rush, take time, do it right, put out a proper polished firmware. No interim release.
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Pretty sure we would be cool with beta releases. Can always rollback.
what should do, well, they *should* release the drivers open source
but i'll be happy enough if someone leaks a 2.3 dev version
TechKidTarek said:
google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together
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Most likely it will be like this. Anyway, 2.3 should be optimised for the CPU and GPU of Nexus S. Being the same as SGS, we might have a major boost in performance just with 2.3. Lets just hope that 2.4 will be build and developped on Nexus S as well.
TechKidTarek said:
google said android 3.0 or honeycomb is for tablets only that means SGS will get 2.3 or gingerbread and maybe 2.4 ice cream sandwich then google will have to separate OS's under android tablet and phone for a while i think then they will join them together
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Who did you hear this from?
I have heard Andy Rubin say multiple times 3.0 was not just for tablets.
BlackDino said:
Who did you hear this from?
I have heard Andy Rubin say multiple times 3.0 was not just for tablets.
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Any source for that? I'm pretty much reading the opposite about everywhere...
EDIT: Well, there's a video interview but it's 25mins. Don't have time right now to watch it but still, from the GIU it's pretty much tablet oriented...
wil we get honeycomb on our beloved hd2? is it possible. i know its for tablets only, but there must be a way of "optimising" it for the hd2
Yes we'll get it.
StephanV said:
Yes we'll get it.
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What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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ricey1986 said:
What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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Innit man. chatting out of his A S S
ricey1986 said:
What are you basing this on? How do you know?
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Because all it takes is a couple of devs to port it, as it has been with every Android version on pretty much every somewhat popular device. There's just absolutely no reason to assume it's not going to be ported.
lol good call. hopefully dev team up soon!!!
The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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would be neat
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The problem is the source code hasn't been dropped yet, so if it was based off the sdk it'll be slow and have no Google apps, plus it probably wont run well on our screen size.
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Well when you run the SDK version in an emulator and optimize for mobile screen res, honeycomb UI reverts back to standard Android UI so maybe it has a built in mobile version.
Ice cream cone is the next update for phones, it won't be long before that's released. Honeycomb does include code for reverting the screen to phone resolution, but from what people can tell, it isn't finished and is probably included as a starting point for future versions where the phone and tablet can both use the same build. Honeycomb probably won't be compatible with phones, at least not now or with a lot of work. A later 3.x version of android may work with both tablets and phones.
what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
sbob303 said:
what version is the ice cream gonna be and whats the improvement, anyone knows, thanks
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no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
orangekid said:
no one is really sure, some say 2.4, and some say 3.x, since Honeycomb will supposedly support phones as well, it wouldn't make sense to go backwards in the version numbers, we'll just have to wait and see. .
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Ice-cream is definitely 2.4, and Honeycomb is 3.0. Honeycomb is aimed at larger screens (tablets) so may not be suitable for some phones (but it will still run, if you can get it installed). Ice-cream is aimed at phones, not tablets, so it will be easier for devs to port over to the device of their choice (HD2 please ).
You guys act like you know for sure. No offense, but you don't. There has been no official word about HoneyComb on phones and no official word about Ice Cream at all.
It is my opinion that Google would not restrict it's Android versions to a set of numbers (i.e. 2.x for phones, 3.x for tablets.) That would make no sense. It is also my opinion that 2.4 will be Gingerbread still, much like 2.0 and 2.1 were Eclair. I'm guessing a major version change, such as 3.5 or 4.0 will merge the phone and tablet branches into Ice Cream. But I'm not "sure" about anything.
The Dell Streak has had HoneyComb ported to it. It seems like it wouldn't be a stretch to put it on this phone, too, even if it's not meant for a 4.3" screen.
Why don´t we have custom roms yet??
Wasn´t the source code dropped already??
When was the source dropped?
This is the last news we had:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/google-keeping-honeycomb-source-code-on-ice-says-its-not-ready/
funkatiko said:
Why don´t we have custom roms yet??
Wasn´t the source code dropped already??
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Since you think it dropped already go ahead and make one
What's the time frame they have to release the HC Source Code? Don't they HAVE to release it?
The Honeycomb sources will never be released. Google announced that at Google IO a few weeks ago, they will only release source code for Icecream Sandwich, which will unify phone (2.x) and Tablet (3.x) Android.
The reason they gave is Honeycomb is a hacked together version kinda rushed out for tablets, and they don't want anyone to see what a mess it is. (ok, that is my interpretation, their actual explanation is "this isn't a proper Android release as we took shortcuts to get it shipped ASAP for tablets, and we don't want devs to rely on these").
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Since you think it dropped already go ahead and make one
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Since ur ass is were ur face should be, u are a freak.
RMerlin said:
The Honeycomb sources will never be released. Google announced that at Google IO a few weeks ago, they will only release source code for Icecream Sandwich, which will unify phone (2.x) and Tablet (3.x) Android.
The reason they gave is Honeycomb is a hacked together version kinda rushed out for tablets, and they don't want anyone to see what a mess it is. (ok, that is my interpretation, their actual explanation is "this isn't a proper Android release as we took shortcuts to get it shipped ASAP for tablets, and we don't want devs to rely on these").
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So is it for sure that we are not having custom roms for honeycomb 3.0 or 3.1? I remember someone (i believe it was bigrushdog) saying that the custom roms were just around the corner....and that was 1 month ago....
I believe some people were able to make some kind of homebrew ROMs based on the SDK. How that works exactly I don't know, someone with better Android technical knowledge than me might know.
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I believe some people were able to make some kind of homebrew ROMs based on the SDK. How that works exactly I don't know, someone with better Android technical knowledge than me might know.
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They were able to port for other devices. But ports usually aren't the most stable things around - also no need for us to port...we have HC. We can't deodex and zip align without source. So anything a dev could do right now would be limited to some minor themeing.
You will never see a Honeycomb based custom rom (other then crappy reverse engineered SDK ones) because Google's not going to release 3.0 or 3.1 source code... You're gunna have to wait till Ice Cream Sandwich in Q4 to see any AOSP based ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
A better question might be if by the end of the year the Xoom will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?
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A better question might be if by the end of the year the Xoom will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?
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Seeing as how Google said they will require manufacturers to support their devices for 18 months if they wish to use Android on their products at I/O this year, I'd assume so.
http://www.dashhacks.com/articles/g...st-be-supported-manufacturers-least-18-months
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And if Motorola does't... Source code will be available then for homebrew Icecream Sandwich if needed.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/09/android-jelly-bean/
More likely, it will be something like Jelly Roll instead. Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, FroYo, Gingerbread, ICS (not just Ice Cream as your title states) . . . the naming convention has been following dessert-type items, not just sweets. But then, I was sure the last version would be Gelato.
Also, isn't ICS pretty clearly going to be version 4.0? This source seems to be out of the loop with that, or maybe just being very cautious without formal confirmation.
And, finally, shouldn't this be in the Android General forum?
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More likely, it will be something like Jelly Roll instead. Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, FroYo, Gingerbread, ICS (not just Ice Cream as your title states) . . . the naming convention has been following dessert-type items, not just sweets. But then, I was sure the last version would be Gelato.
Also, isn't ICS pretty clearly going to be version 4.0? This source seems to be out of the loop with that, or maybe just being very cautious without formal confirmation.
And, finally, shouldn't this be in the Android General forum?
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-lol I agree, it should be Jelly Roll to coincide with previous naming.
We don't even know much and we're already talking about the next version?
-I've seen conflicting reports but does it really matter?
It should just be 3.0. One version for tablets, one for phones.
-It is.
Honeycomb is already 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2
velociraptors said:
Honeycomb is already 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2
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I realize that but why play games with it?
Just name it 3.0 and have honeycomb (and future tablet versions) numbered under it's current structure.
What are you gonna do have it go from 3.x to 5.x for tablets?
Silly.
next version?
Kiwi? Wow, good luck.
The new version will bridge the gap between all the differing versions and unite all android under the same OS - phone AND tablet. The new version, out sometime Q4 this year, will be Android 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich.
Chlballi
mattykinsx said:
I realize that but why play games with it?
Just name it 3.0 and have honeycomb (and future tablet versions) numbered under it's current structure.
What are you gonna do have it go from 3.x to 5.x for tablets?
Silly.
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No. ICS is a unified platform for both phones and tablets. So all devices would be running 4.0.
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Rem3Dy said:
No. ICS is a unified platform for both phones and tablets. So all devices would be running 4.0.
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I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
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I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
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This is what was said at the Google I/O.
9:15 a.m. (Maggie Reardon): Ice Cream Sandwich will allow Google partners to put the OS on all kinds of form factors: phones that flip, tablets, smartphones. One OS that runs everywhere. That's the goal.
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20061246-266.html#ixzz1XiYa4umU
I don't know what a Jelly Roll is... but I want to taste one!
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I haven't heard anything like that.
Source?
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This may be true, I've seen this some where.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=331067
Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
ashwinmudigonda said:
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.