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hey all
so i was one of the lucky ppl who was able to get my phone rooted in the beginning. everything worked perfect, wireless teather, adfree ...
last night i unrooted and installed the OTA then used unrevoked3 to reroot, everything went fine but now when i am in recovery if i type adb shell i get:~# and if i type su its not found in /system/bin...whats going on? i have Superuser.apk all my root aps work but i dont know what the "~#" and why i cant get into su in recovery...

ezy1022 said:
hey all
so i was one of the lucky ppl who was able to get my phone rooted in the beginning. everything worked perfect, wireless teather, adfree ...
last night i unrooted and installed the OTA then used unrevoked3 to reroot, everything went fine but now when i am in recovery if i type adb shell i get:~# and if i type su its not found in /system/bin...whats going on? i have Superuser.apk all my root aps work but i dont know what the "~#" and why i cant get into su in recovery...
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clockworkmod recovery is root by default, there is no su cause you don't need it. # = su prompt versus $ = user prompt...

Shadowmite said:
clockworkmod recovery is root by default, there is no su cause you don't need it. # = su prompt versus $ = user prompt...
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So all is good?

Yes....all is good. Reported.

I'm not issuing warnings yet for questions posted in development which may fall under that scope. I have requested a Q&A sub-forum be created for DI. We'll see how that pans out. Until then, please post questions in the thread where you believe your issue is coming from. Otherwise, please post questions in the DI/General sub-forum until a Q&A forum is created. Thanks!

ezy1022 said:
hey all
so i was one of the lucky ppl who was able to get my phone rooted in the beginning. everything worked perfect, wireless teather, adfree ...
last night i unrooted and installed the OTA then used unrevoked3 to reroot, everything went fine but now when i am in recovery if i type adb shell i get:~# and if i type su its not found in /system/bin...whats going on? i have Superuser.apk all my root aps work but i dont know what the "~#" and why i cant get into su in recovery...
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i have that problem right now. i have the original root(via loop.bat) in place, nothing else. i get the symbol "~#" too when i try to enter the adb shell while in recovery. adb devices show that my phone is attached and i am able to execute most commands. but there are some commands like "cd" that only work in the shell.
so we are going to need to resolve this eventually.
yes, you do not need su in recovery but you will need adb shell.
if there's anyone out there who can help us with this "~#" when typing adb shell in recovery, it would be greatly appreciated.

If you see that then that means you are using adb shell. No need for Su, but if you're removing apps etc mount the /system in the partitions menu of clockworkmod. Then cd /system/app to edit your apps.
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Only HALF rooted on 2.2???

Is anyone else in the same boat as me, where they updated prior to instructions reading to move SU to xbin????
I have the SU in my app drawer, I have loaded setcpu and other root programs like barnacle, but I CANNOT for the life of me get the other half of the root apps to work because it says I DO NOT have SU permissions.... like Root Explorer for example.
I wouldn't mind sbf'n it back to 2.1 and then back to 2.2 again at all, just not quite sure what to do.... an ideas?

I was in the same boat as you after upgrading to 2.2 even though I thought I did the xbin step correct, guess not.
Anyways, the only way I fixed it was to completely flash my phone, I didn't mind doing this because it's always nice to start with a fresh install.
This guide was the best for me, simple and includes all necessary links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758907

Make sure you have busybox installed. There is an appliaction in the market that will download it..
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If you didnt move su to xbin, you will HAVE to sbf your x and redo everything to get 2.2 with root. Thats what happened to me.

I did this also...half root and stuff. I used astro to install the su apk off my sd card. I didn't have the ninja guy in my app drawer though. But could run set cpu. Not root explorer. I just again installed the su apk from sd. And it showed up in my app drawer. And I was able to install root explorer. Just my 2's
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A fix without adb
To anyone that has run into this problem I have a solution. This is for everyone that missed the step on keeping your root access. If you have su in xbin and still won't work this will work for you.
(Open terminal emulator) type the following:
/system/xbin/su
Then you should see a #
Run "mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/system /system"
Run "mv /system/bin/su /system/bin/su.bak"
Run "cd /system/xbin/"
Run "cp su ../bin/"
Then you should have your root access again!
and one more thing, don't type the word run or put the " " in this code

Same thing happened to me as well, I SBF'd back the first run and did everything EXCEPT the moving su to xbin, and well.... I had to do it all over again, took a bit of time, but now root works again.
Chris

(Q) Root with Super User

So I'm rooted and downloaded Super User app from market. I have a bunch of root apps but the only app listed in the super user app is Titanium. Any reason why the other rooted apps (Set Cpu, Minfree Manager, etc.) aren't listed?

Have they asked for superuser?
Via EVO on 4G with XDA App

awenthol said:
Have they asked for superuser?
Via EVO on 4G with XDA App
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No it doesn't
Sent from my CM6 powered device

krazyflipj said:
No it doesn't
Sent from my CM6 powered device
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We managed to fix this problem the other night on the irc channel. I didn't post anything because it doesn't seem like many people are using superuser.apk. The problem is that superuser needs to install it's own version of the su program to run properly. The current root method replaces su every reboot. When you lose the su that superuser.apk installs it can't control root access anymore and basically any program can request root without a prompt to you. The fix is to just replace the jk-su file in /system/bin/ with the superuser su. Then every reboot it will just use the one that works with the superuser app. I did this a few days ago and haven't had any problems.
The procedure is as follows (you need to use adb):
Go into the superuser app, go to the "settings" tab and at the very bottom choose to update su (it should change from saying original to something like "su v2.3.1-ef").
Plug the phone into usb and make sure you have USB debugging enabled.
Open a command prompt on the computer and goto your android sdk tools folder to run these commands (IMPORTANT NOTE - Make sure you have the phone screen on and unlocked when you run the su command below because superuser will ask you for permission and you need to click yes. It wont prompt if the screen is off or locked and the adb shell will just sit there waiting for a response. As soon as you click yes on the phone you should get a # in the adb shell):
adb shell
su
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
exit
Now you should just reboot the phone and check that it worked by running any program that needs root access that isn't already listed with superuser. I suggest shootme or wifi tether. tether asks when you start or stop tethering and when you allow a mac address in the access control.

richse said:
We managed to fix this problem the other night on the irc channel. I didn't post anything because it doesn't seem like many people are using superuser.apk. The problem is that superuser needs to install it's own version of the su program to run properly. The current root method replaces su every reboot. When you lose the su that superuser.apk installs it can't control root access anymore and basically any program can request root without a prompt to you. The fix is to just replace the jk-su file in /system/bin/ with the superuser su. Then every reboot it will just use the one that works with the superuser app. I did this a few days ago and haven't had any problems.
The procedure is as follows (you need to use adb):
Go into the superuser app, go to the "settings" tab and at the very bottom choose to update su (it should change from saying original to something like "su v2.3.1-ef").
Plug the phone into usb and make sure you have USB debugging enabled.
Open a command prompt on the computer and goto your android sdk tools folder to run these commands (IMPORTANT NOTE - Make sure you have the phone screen on and unlocked when you run the su command below because superuser will ask you for permission and you need to click yes. It wont prompt if the screen is off or locked and the adb shell will just sit there waiting for a response. As soon as you click yes on the phone you should get a # in the adb shell):
adb shell
su
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
exit
Now you should just reboot the phone and check that it worked by running any program that needs root access that isn't already listed with superuser. I suggest shootme or wifi tether. tether asks when you start or stop tethering and when you allow a mac address in the access control.
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Hmmm cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su didn't work. I ls /system/bin and don't see jk-su listed just su...

krazyflipj said:
Hmmm cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su didn't work. I ls /system/bin and don't see jk-su listed just su...
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What root did you use? I did mine manually so there may be some differences if you used a one click.
Edit: I just looked at noobnl's one click root and it uses the same script that contains the line:
#copies busybox su
cat /system/bin/jk-su > /sdx/su
so it should definitely be there even if you used his one click.
When you run the command "ls -l /system/bin/jk-su" what do you get?
I get this:
ls -l /system/bin/jk-su
-rwsr-sr-x root root 26264 2010-09-18 06:10 jk-su

Please delete

krazyflipj said:
Please delete
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Did you get it working? After you updated su through the superuser app then it started working so that is why it asked you for permission when you were in terminal. The problem is that if you reboot without applying the rest of the fix to replace jk-su then you will lose the updated su and it will stop working.

richse said:
Did you get it working? After you updated su through the superuser app then it started working so that is why it asked you for permission when you were in terminal. The problem is that if you reboot without applying the rest of the fix to replace jk-su then you will lose the updated su and it will stop working.
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Hey Richse, I'm trying to get this to work but it isn't.

rose1 said:
Hey Richse, I'm trying to get this to work but it isn't.
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can you give me more information, what errors are you getting or what exactly is happening?

richse said:
can you give me more information, what errors are you getting or what exactly is happening?
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Okay, I did the one click root method that is stickied. Then I did
adb shell
su
after doing su, I initially saw on the phone that unknown user was asking for superuser access. Of course, "unknown user" is me so I granted it. Then I saw the # then I went ahead and did
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
That worked fine . The line repeated itself which indicates that it worked. When I do
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
it then says cp: not found.
Just to give you a little more info, I just restored my phone with odin to factory defaults, then I updated to the DI07 update. Then I installed the final clockwork mod recovery, then I did the one click root method. Then I installed superuser in the system/app folder.

rose1 said:
Okay, I did the one click root method that is stickied. Then I did
adb shell
su
after doing su, I initially saw on the phone that unknown user was asking for superuser access. Of course, "unknown user" is me so I granted it. Then I saw the # then I went ahead and did
mount -t rfs -o remount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
That worked fine . The line repeated itself which indicates that it worked. When I do
cp /system/bin/su /system/bin/jk-su
it then says cp: not found.
Just to give you a little more info, I just restored my phone with odin to factory defaults, then I updated to the DI07 update. Then I installed the final clockwork mod recovery, then I did the one click root method. Then I installed superuser in the system/app folder.
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I'm not sure why cp doesn't work, it just means copy. An alternative to try is to delete jk-su and replace it with the su you updated. Use these commands in place of the cp command:
rm /system/bin/jk-su
cat /system/bin/su > /system/bin/jk-su
Make sure you do this after updating su in the superuser app and without rebooting in between. Let me know if you have any problems.

followed instructions. no errors but i still have no programs asking for permission. i had wifi tether downloaded before and it worked. I downloaded shootme to see if it would ask for permission and it didnt - but it works. neithe one is lited in superuser either.
listed is:
adfree / quickboot / root manager / startup manager ( 3 of them) / super manager / unknown ( spawned right after i followed instrution)
any ideas
uninstall supersuser and reinstalled:
listed apps now:
adfree / busybox installer / root explorer / rootmanager / sufbs / tit backup
again not sure is it is correct. but seems to work "I THINK"

spdwiz18 said:
followed instructions. no errors but i still have no programs asking for permission. i had wifi tether downloaded before and it worked. I downloaded shootme to see if it would ask for permission and it didnt - but it works. neithe one is lited in superuser either.
listed is:
adfree / quickboot / root manager / startup manager ( 3 of them) / super manager / unknown ( spawned right after i followed instrution)
any ideas
uninstall supersuser and reinstalled:
listed apps now:
adfree / busybox installer / root explorer / rootmanager / sufbs / tit backup
again not sure is it is correct. but seems to work "I THINK"
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When you go to update su in the superuser app does it say "original" and then change or does it stay updated after you reboot?

richse said:
When you go to update su in the superuser app does it say "original" and then change or does it stay updated after you reboot?
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what i have:
cwm 2.5.1
root 2.1.1
di07
now for the long and skinny:
i checked. went to superuser and it told me 2.3.1 -ef i then HARD rebooted, came back with no root.and superuser told be original, hard reboot again, still no root. So one more time- third time is a charm - i have root and superuser told me 2.3.1 -ef
thanks again for the help.
i think my phone might not be total stable.. lol
any ideas.
also - i thought about upping root to most recent but unsure if i need to unroot or if i can install over it. your thoughts on this matter!!!!

spdwiz18 said:
what i have:
cwm 2.5.1
root 2.1.1
di07
now for the long and skinny:
i checked. went to superuser and it told me 2.3.1 -ef i then HARD rebooted, came back with no root.and superuser told be original, hard reboot again, still no root. So one more time- third time is a charm - i have root and superuser told me 2.3.1 -ef
thanks again for the help.
i think my phone might not be total stable.. lol
any ideas.
also - i thought about upping root to most recent but unsure if i need to unroot or if i can install over it. your thoughts on this matter!!!!
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I doubt you need to update root. The root I used was the original manual method by joeykrim. The one click just automates that method. There is no reason why you should have to reboot multiple times to get this working. You basically just replaced a file with a similar file and the script that was installed when you rooted uses that file to create a new su every time you reboot. Personally, I would wipe to stock with Odin and then use the manual root method to make sure nothing funny is going on with your phone. When you rebooted and the su was "original" you didn't lose root, it just meant that superuser wouldn't work. For now, as long as the 2.3.1 -ef sticks around superuser will work just fine. As an alternative you could try noobnl's newest stuff. Looks like he made it compatible with superuser, so I think that would negate the need to use this type of fix. I'm not sure what he did to add the compatibility but you could probably ask him.

if you flash noobnl's latest kernel, it includes superuser and it works perfectly.

rose1 said:
if you flash noobnl's latest kernel, it includes superuser and it works perfectly.
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The only issue I see with that is you have to use a DG27 kernel. If you want to use a DI07 kernel you still need to use this fix.

richse said:
The only issue I see with that is you have to use a DG27 kernel. If you want to use a DI07 kernel you still need to use this fix.
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Very true. I didn't think about that.

I have latest Noobls kernel flashed on top of DI07 and this fix did not work.First thing that dint work is i never got SuperUser prompt after i typed su in adb shell,i got su in windows but no prompt on the phone.
To make it short i did the whole procedure from BetterTerminal(now i got su prompt) rebooted and back to same problem.Man,this been bugin me for two days now,sometimes i reboot the phone and i have root permissions then i reboot again and they are gone!
Big question is:is everybody on Epic have same issue or is it just on certain phones,kernels or roms?

[q] help needed on 6.2.1

Hi all,
I got my KF few days back, Rooted it, before I could install the android market, got forced update to 6.2.1. 2 days ago saw this new root method using BurritoRoot. Tried rooting it, seems successful, however, now when I arrived at the home page, I cant even open the Superuser app at all. It goes the same for the Root Explorer - prompting:
"Root Explorer has not yet managed to obtain root access. Because of issues with Superuser, this often happens the first time the app is run but is usually fine from then on. Click ok and restart the app and try again. Make sure u respond correctly to the Superuser prompt." Then it comes with a force close.
Seriously I do not know whats wrong with it, now i cant even use the root explorer for me to install Android Market.
Anybody can help me with it?
Million Thanks.

did you use the superuser-2.apk ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20645033&highlight=superuser-2+apk#post20645033

b63 said:
did you use the superuser-2.apk ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20645033&highlight=superuser-2+apk#post20645033
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Im using the ROOT INSTALL - Method 1 and I downloaded the file from Rootzwiki, apparently the file is named "com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk". and I used the following commands:
adb root
adb remount
adb push su /system/xbin/su
adb shell chown 0.0 /system/xbin/su
adb shell chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
adb install com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk
adb reboot
So which means I should use the Superuser -2.apk instead?
What should I do now? Download the Superuser-2 file and repeat the whole process again???
thanks.

yes - the new version seems to be the only one working with burritoroot
consider to use KFU to make things easier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
should be option 2 (permanent root with superuser)

semi-success: delayed update to 6.3 and preserved root

This did not go exactly as I had planned but it ended up ok anyway and I learned some.
I am using a rooted stock rom. First, my idea was to prevent the auto update to 6.3. Second, I wanted to see if it was possible to somehow preserve root so that I wouldn't have to re-root after the update, because I am not really thrilled by the idea of installing a new boot loader and so on; I would prefer to make the minimum modifications necessary to do what I need.
The first goal appeared to be well-served by using droidwall. I used whitelist mode and blocked everything that I couldn't tell had an obvious need to access the net. I posted more detail here. From the time the update started going out until today when I had time to actually try my update, I did not receive the update automatically. So that appeared to work.
Next, my idea was to simply make a copy of /system/xbin/su to a place that wouldn't get overwritten by the update.
# mkdir /data/lunchmeat
# cat /system/xbin/su > /data/lunchmeat/salami
# chmod 6755 /data/lunchmeat/salami
The idea being that since it's still setuid root, I'd be able to execute it and become root after the update. (I just picked a silly name in case something looked for su and blew it away).
So, I turned off wifi, disabled droidwall, manually updated (copied the updates into kindleupdates and so on) and after it rebooted, I opened the terminal app and tried to execute my salami binary. I got permission denied, and the superuser app said that superuser permission was denied on the terminal app. Hmmm....
Couldn't figure out why it was behaving that way so I thought I'd try adb root, and whadya know, I had a root shell.
remounted /system read-write, copied su back into /system/xbin, renamed /system/bin/check_rooted to /system/bin/check_rootedx, created an empty executable /system/bin/check_rooted, and rebooted...
...and everything is (rooted) as it was before. I re-enabled droidwall. google play seems to be working.
Why did 'adb root' work for me after the update? That might be a good question to answer, since it could make the re-rooting process much simpler for people! 2 or 3 commands and you're done.
edit: ohhhhh, stupid me! /data is mounted nosuid. / seems to get blown away on every reboot, so even if I remount it read/write and put su there, it gets lost.
And, also, I just remembered that I did what jcase said in this post which is what allowed me to keep adb root working.
So, so far this idea is going nowhere.