I was wondering if I still have to pay AT&T for GPS service, even if I use a 3rd party GPS provider like the Google maps navigator. Thank you in advance
You don't pay AT&T for GPS service, the GPS locator is built into the phone itself. But what you pay for is the data that the phone downloads from the internet. Google Maps is made up of images that are downloaded as you go. GPS service runs by itself. For example, if you don't have service but do have GPS enabled, the phone will just be showing a dot where you are. Makes sense?
profipix said:
You don't pay AT&T for GPS service, the GPS locator is built into the phone itself. But what you pay for is the data that the phone downloads from the internet. Google Maps is made up of images that are downloaded as you go. GPS service runs by itself. For example, if you don't have service but do have GPS enabled, the phone will just be showing a dot where you are. Makes sense?
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he could be paying for AT&T maps which has a monthly charge.
zervic said:
he could be paying for AT&T maps which has a monthly charge.
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Yes I was, but he answered my question anyways, thank you
Plasmamuffins said:
Yes I was, but he answered my question anyways, thank you
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Having the maps installed is the key to GPS navigation -
Without actually downloading and installing a "stand-alone" GPS navigation app, being connected to the internet, whether via AT&T cellular network or via WiFi, is required to actually download maps to your device.
If you want to "go it alone" without any data being processed, you will need to find a stand-alone map/navigation application like CoPilot.
To follow up on DanGeorges' comment a basic GPS map application (no navigation) that I use, without a data plan, is Maps (-). It's free and allows you to pre-cache areas of a map up to a certain zoom level, when you're on wi-fi, for use later on.
DanGeorges said:
Having the maps installed is the key to GPS navigation -
Without actually downloading and installing a "stand-alone" GPS navigation app, being connected to the internet, whether via AT&T cellular network or via WiFi, is required to actually download maps to your device.
If you want to "go it alone" without any data being processed, you will need to find a stand-alone map/navigation application like CoPilot.
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AT&T maps is not google maps. AT&T maps you have to pay for, google maps is free. you're confusing the two.
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i was wondering if i use like tomtom or garmin and i have all the maps loaded to my sd card if i use tom tom will i get extra charges from sprint? (with traffic turned off)
the gps is free. i noticed tomtom on mine connects to the internet every now and then, but i have unlimited data so that dosnt matter. you do have to pay for sprint nav unless you have the everything plan where sprint nav service is included.
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i was wondering if i use like tomtom or garmin and i have all the maps loaded to my sd card if i use tom tom will i get extra charges from sprint? (with traffic turned off)
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You can use Google Maps or Live Search for free too, unless you have no phone service
yah but will sprint charge me xtra for turning on the gps satellite like they do with sprint nav 1.95 just for 1 use i dont got sero or simply everything plans...
You would only pay for any data that was used coming from either google maps or live search. They have no way of charging you for GPS usage.
If you get a tool like Tom Tom or Igo, then there is no data charge, and therefore other than the cost of the software originally, there would be no additional charges.
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there is no charge for using your gps
if your applications uses gps and data u will charged for any data used if u do not have an unlimited plan
for example, dialing 911 sends a gps to 911 and its free
using tom tom with maps on sd card and data connection off = free gps
using google maps with gps and data = except for any data
GPS tracking itself doesnt cost anything, the sats are up there and broadcasting 24/7, courtesy of the US gov.
If you use aGPS (which downloads an approx location for each sat to speed up fix times) then theres a small data download. Without a data plan you'll get charged for the data usage there. Its small though.
Maps and the software have a cost for them, but thats upfront, not continual.
Sprint nav doesnt do the nav on the device, it comes from the server, which has a charge. But you arent talking about that.
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You can use Google Maps or Live Search for free too, unless you have no phone service
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correction: google maps loads the maps by downloading them via your data connection. you will notice that when you move the map you will see the data transfer in the top right of the screen. these data charges will likely be charged.
just out of curiosity.. for the sprint nav where does it come included... cause i have the sero $30 plan no idea if it has sprint nav or not. cause it would be nice to get voice directions instead of the regular maps like google maps or live search. thanks
For AT&T does using GPS cost money? From my understanding it only uses data to download maps but retrieving my coordinates is free. Do I understand correctly or have I been misled? (I do not remember where I read that.)
Also if it is true, then is there any GPS program that I can use that I can just download a map of a single city to my phone. That way I can just use Wifi at home to retrieve the map, then I can use it in my city for free.
Thirdly, assuming it true. Apps that tell me how fast I am going and how far I have traveled, would they cost me money. I think not because all they use is my coordinates, right?
GPS is free of charge, because it uses a satellite and no internet service.
There are a bunch of navigation softwares out there, but as far as I know, they all cost money. I, for example, use TomTom Navigator in Germany. You can buy it for around $100 with a detailed map of Germany and major roads of western europe. You can also purchase extra maps, for other countries. Dont know if you can buy a single city or state with at TomTom USA.
TomTom tells you how fast you are going at the moment you are using it. But there are a range of Tracking Apps, that can monitor the distance you do (Like TrackME). There is one program (forgot the name), that tracks your location like every 5 minutes and safes the coordinates in a format "Google Earth" is capable to read. So you can import the date and import it into Google Earth and then see the route you took.
If you have GPS in your phone, coordinates comes from satellites and is free. This is the signal that most of the non-map GPS apps use, so indeed free.
However, Assisted-GPS, which helps your GPS finding a signal faster, downloads a few kilobytes from the network, so costs very little, but is not free.
Maps are different. If you want it for active routing, you either need to buy and preload (TomTom, Garmin, and the likes), or you need an online service (Google) and you will need to pay data traffic for that
If you want the maps just for reference, not for active routing, and preload them at home, than there are a few nice programs, this one is very nice for the non-demanding user
Why does the edge symbol say its connected?
Don-Carlo said:
GPS is free of charge, because it uses a satellite and no internet service.
There are a bunch of navigation softwares out there, but as far as I know, they all cost money. I, for example, use TomTom Navigator in Germany. You can buy it for around $100 with a detailed map of Germany and major roads of western europe. You can also purchase extra maps, for other countries. Dont know if you can buy a single city or state with at TomTom USA.
TomTom tells you how fast you are going at the moment you are using it. But there are a range of Tracking Apps, that can monitor the distance you do (Like TrackME). There is one program (forgot the name), that tracks your location like every 5 minutes and safes the coordinates in a format "Google Earth" is capable to read. So you can import the date and import it into Google Earth and then see the route you took.
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The E will pop up while the phone asks the network for the co-ordinates of the local masts your are connected to. This can happen not just to get the original lock and your postition but if you are indoors it will stay on untill it picks up enough sats to navigate on its own.
Can I tell it to use Wifi for that instead of the Edge network? Will it only need to use this once?
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The E will pop up while the phone asks the network for the co-ordinates of the local masts your are connected to. This can happen not just to get the original lock and your postition but if you are indoors it will stay on untill it picks up enough sats to navigate on its own.
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If you are that worried about data connections, just disable AGPS. You can do that with Advanced Config tools 3.3. And/Or disable the data connections themselves, so *no* program can use data, also possible with Adv Cfg 3.3, but easier with Modaco NoData. Search the board for these utilities.
After disabling AGPS, you can still use QuickGPS when connected to WiFi to pre-download satellite positions, otherwise getting a fix takes several minutes. Search the forum for more info, all of your questions have been asked and answered before.
Thank you very much. I did search, however I must not have used the right keywords as I could only find programs that used GPS.
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If you are that worried about data connections, just disable AGPS. You can do that with Advanced Config tools 3.3. And/Or disable the data connections themselves, so *no* program can use data, also possible with Adv Cfg 3.3, but easier with Modaco NoData. Search the board for these utilities.
After disabling AGPS, you can still use QuickGPS when connected to WiFi to pre-download satellite positions, otherwise getting a fix takes several minutes. Search the forum for more info, all of your questions have been asked and answered before.
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Hi all,
Now im part of the 'gang' I was wondering what the recommended Sat Nav with voice navigation was on Android for the HTC Desire HD? I come from Nokia land where we have Ovi Maps which is very good and free.
What alternatives do I have over here on Android, ideally free, that is good and has voice navigation and good UK postcode search?
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Google Maps with voice, all you need my friend
Forgot to add, ideally one where you can save maps, ie, for traveling without having to use roaming?
Thanks
Isn't a free one where maps are stored. To be honest co pilot probably the best if you want no data charges but Google map rubs rings around everything
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Hi,
Yes, just tried Maps, shame about the voice!
I'd rather be able to download maps then I dont have to worry about roaming.
Do you know if you are able to, for example, set your route at the hotel/house and let it calculate the route, say on wifi, and then leave in the car and turn roaming off?
That said, i'd consider paying a small fee if I were able to access offline maps in advance.
Thanks again.
gavin watson said:
Hi,
Yes, just tried Maps, shame about the voice!
I'd rather be able to download maps then I dont have to worry about roaming.
Do you know if you are able to, for example, set your route at the hotel/house and let it calculate the route, say on wifi, and then leave in the car and turn roaming off?
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Yes you can do this with Maps but the problem is if you take a wrong turn somewhere then it can't recalculate the route for you without a data connection. Not ideal really.
If you want to do it though then simply calculate your route with wifi or 3G enabled then press your home button to continue using your phone, turn off your data connection then pull Maps back up again - it will still be running and will the just use GPS as you drive around... provided you don't take that wrong turn we spoke about earlier
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Waze is much better than Google maps. No offline navigating yet, but they plan on implementing that too. And the good thing is it has crowdsourced traffic info (jams/hazards/speed cams etc), and turn by turn voice guided navigation. It's fun!
I have an easy question about GPS, I am using Vibrant without network plan. So I don't know if I can use GPS with out any wifi or 3g? I am using the BV 1.3.1 now.. If that will work, how can I set up?
GPS uses military run satellites to determine you location. The network or data transfer is irreverent. Your GPS will work without network connection.
Now lets say you try to navigate to a location with Google maps. This will not work, although the phone will know your location it can not use the network to DL the maps nor calculate your route. If you use a nav app that store a maps on your SD card, then you'll be fine
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GPS uses military run satellites to determine you location. The network or data transfer is irreverent. Your GPS will work without network connection.
Now lets say you try to navigate to a location with Google maps. This will not work, although the phone will know your location it can not use the network to DL the maps nor calculate your route. If you use a nav app that store a maps on your SD card, then you'll be fine
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+1 yup plus it will be slower
oka1 said:
+1 yup plus it will be slower
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It will be slower? The GPS navigate will be slower or the phone will be slower? much slower?
oka1 said:
+1 yup plus it will be slower
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Is there any nav app that we can't download free and store the maps in SD so that can navigate without network?
oka1 said:
+1 yup plus it will be slower
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It will be slower? The GPS navigate will be slower or the phone will be slower? much slower?
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I don't see how the phone would be slower, in any regard. It would not affect the phones processing speed, nor would the gps run slower. The only thing that could be slower is finding your location from a cold start, using network location can speed this, but imo it's irrelevant. Network location is too inaccurate for navigation.
There are some apps which store maps, but none that are free. Maybe someone else knows of one.
In my experience, GPS lock can be considerably slower without the network. The AGPS works by querying the network to get supplemental information like precise time and maybe ephemeris data (precise sat location) which can make a huge difference in acquiring lock. The phone is capable of acquiring lock without this network aid, but locks can take minutes, and accurate locks can take many minutes.
Of course, the other caveats about requiring off-line maps etc for navigation functions also apply.
I don't have a data plan either but my gps works just fine. It locks onto sats in about 10 sec.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10488647
thats open source map app where u can drop locations to go turn by turn (initially the maps load over wifi, but u can choose to save them and save them according to the resolution. I live in Atlanta so i only saved the GA portion with a decent resolution, which is nice that i dont have to worry about downloading states ill never need).
i personally use copilot live more (about 1gb for USA maps with poi)
i forgot the price, but it is 100% worth it (almost better than my in car navi)
Running bionix btw if that helps with gps lockon timings
and dont forget to get apn droid from the app store to make sure it disables all cellular network data. only downside is that if you want mms then u have to turn it back on reboot and then download the mms then turn it off again, but i dont get many mms anyway so its ok.
Get CoPilot Live USA.
Its $5 on the market and it preloads the maps for the country on your phone. Works WITHOUT data and the interface is SLICK. Full 3D navigation with really good voice turn by turn.
One of the best purchases I ever made. Hope it helps you too
PS: Maps get updated about every month so they are always current as far as road names and points of interest. Note that since it isn't using any data and data triangulation, if it is the first time you use it after a phone reboot it will take up to 3-4 minutes to lock on. This is normal as it is the same if you try any 3rd party GPS receiver navigation system. Once you've used it once since the phone has booted up, lockon time will be under a minute.
Incase i go ahead and buy Galaxy S II, do i need to have internet when using GPS. My present nokia E71 phone runs GPS without internet.
Why I am asking this question is because being on AT&T i want to take only 200 MB or 2GB data plan and incase GPS uses internet, the data usage will be very high and i want to avoid extra charges ?
If you use google maps, you will need data. However there are other apps on the market , both free and paid, which can pre-download map data on say wifi so that you dont have to use 3G etc.
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Cool. Can you guide me to one of such apps which i can download and use the gps in offline mode.
Co-Pilot
http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/copilot/
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Sygic Aura .............. paid
Maverick ............................. free
Thanks Guys.
I have a question, Incase i am on AT&T and have interenet connection but don't want to use that for GPS, is it possible or AT&T forces internet for GPS or blocks GPS apps other then AT&T Maps & Google Maps
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Thanks Guys.
I have a question, Incase i am on AT&T and have interenet connection but don't want to use that for GPS, is it possible or AT&T forces internet for GPS or blocks GPS apps other then AT&T Maps & Google Maps
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AT&T doesn't discriminate what app uses their service (surprisingly). If you really want to make sure nothing is eating up your data, you'll need to turn off Packet Data in Settings (and turn on WiFi if you still need internet to pre-cache maps) before you start using your GPS.