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This was posted in the HD2 ROM section, but I thought it deserved a link in here as well, as explained after the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801252
I flashed the latest HTC ROM yesterday and it comes with that radio. After a quick play with it I went back to Android and carried on using the phone as normal.
I've never had particularly good or bad battery life while using Android - it's just been ok. But last night was totally different. I was using wifi to surf and download apps from the market, and I played quite a lot of games. In total, I used the phone heavily for about 5 hours and only used 30% of the battery.
This may just be me, but that radio really seems to have made a massive difference. I just wanted to point it out so that anyone who has battery life issues may be able to improve their situation.
Hope this helps some of you
thanks johncmolyneux
wow another new radio, downloading now will report back later
hi
i am running hyperdroid 1.7 on my hd2 now, but i have got some problems with it.
as i was looking for a solution for my problems, i saw there was an android os called SuperHD2_v14. and thought to flash it instead of hyperdroid.
can anybody tell me if that os is almost like hyperdroid? or is there much different. I have read that SuperHD2_v14 have a good battery life, compared to hyperdroid. is that true?
Liking SuperHD_v14
fischerben said:
hi
i am running hyperdroid 1.7 on my hd2 now, but i have got some problems with it.
as i was looking for a solution for my problems, i saw there was an android os called SuperHD2_v14. and thought to flash it instead of hyperdroid.
can anybody tell me if that os is almost like hyperdroid? or is there much different. I have read that SuperHD2_v14 have a good battery life, compared to hyperdroid. is that true?
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I haven't tried hyperdroid but I'm pretty satisfied with SuperHD2_v14. I checked current widget and sure enough it did eventually drop to 4 mA on idle. I got about 6 hours of heavy use or about 5 hours of 100% continuous use. I think for the most part the chef's claims are valid.
Note your radio... I had to back flash to an old radio, but I'm not certain it was required. I've heard that some with newer radio's are complaining.
Also on first boot be VERY patient. About 5-15 minutes at the "htc" screen. Subsequent boots are the normal 3-5 min.
BTW, I flashed WinMo to OzDROID 2.0 since it was recommended as a good pairing with SuperHD2. Also remember to light the keys before loading it. Being religious about that solved some of my issues.
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I have HD2 with
1- windows mobile 6.5
2- ROM Prestige X
3- Radio 2.15.50.14
4- Android ROM Moto234_Incredible_Remix_V2.0
and I have turned of (Wifi , Bluteooth, GPS)
and I noticed the battery consumption is high in Android ROM, but in Windows Mobile very good , so what do you think the problem, and what about the solution
asiri4 said:
I have HD2 with
1- windows mobile 6.5
2- ROM Prestige X
3- Radio 2.15.50.14
4- Android ROM Moto234_Incredible_Remix_V2.0
and I have turned of (Wifi , Bluteooth, GPS)
and I noticed the battery consumption is high in Android ROM, but in Windows Mobile very good , so what do you think the problem, and what about the solution
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Some of this is due to the fact that android is still booting from the SD card
asiri4 said:
I have HD2 with
1- windows mobile 6.5
2- ROM Prestige X
3- Radio 2.15.50.14
4- Android ROM Moto234_Incredible_Remix_V2.0
and I have turned of (Wifi , Bluteooth, GPS)
and I noticed the battery consumption is high in Android ROM, but in Windows Mobile very good , so what do you think the problem, and what about the solution
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Buster3616 said:
Some of this is due to the fact that android is still booting from the SD card
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most of it is due to that the device can never 'sleep' or enter an idle mode. which is very low power. So the phone is always consuming power.
However with both of the android roms i am using i can go a full day with out charging with high usage.
Could be several reasons:
1. Your WinMo ROM may not be Android friendly.
2. You may need to boot into Android as quickly as possible using Exceller's Boot Loader (set for 3 seconds) and ensuring that the key lights are on when Haret is loading.
3. You may need to boot up Android a couple of times in Normal mode and not Hot Boot mode. This seems to be the cause for many people.
My TMOUS phone using VBNDroid RC3 ROM, 2.15.50.14 radio, Mdeejay Froyo Sense Clean 2.3 build and Hastarin's 8.5.1 kernel with stock Sandisk card can run for a couple of days with light use. I also have SetCPU and NoBars to help reduce the battery drain even more. I am seeing 3-5mA drain on standby with 150-300mA with WiFi and app use. How much battery drain are you seeing?
why did you post this here........ this goes in general or q&a
i mean... seriously..... read the forum rules and follow them......
I swear a huge percent of the threads being started in the past day were questions regarding my builds, which I don't understand because I am answering EVERY question possible in my thread as much as I can.
P.S. I replaced the Incredible build with the Evo build for a reason. One of them being, it's better on battery. Please from now on, ask any questions regarding any build in that builds thread, that's why we have them. If I can help you with anything please let me know.
Thanks,
motoman234 said:
I swear a huge percent of the threads being started in the past day were questions regarding my builds, which I don't understand because I am answering EVERY question possible in my thread as much as I can.
P.S. I replaced the Incredible build with the Evo build for a reason. One of them being, it's better on battery. Please from now on, ask any questions regarding any build in that builds thread, that's why we have them. If I can help you with anything please let me know.
Thanks,
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Motoman234,
You most definitely do quick replies and great work. Checked your build thread and noticed you already answered this person's question. So I do not know why they posted the same question here and in your build thread, was there first in fact before this thread, so don't know why people do these double posts. Maybe the moderator could either move this thread to your build thread or delete it altogether.
I am having similar battery issues with my device. I currently have a tmo Hd2 w/ Energy rom winmo build using 2.15 radio and the latest mdj build on a class 6 8gb. With typical usage i.e. 30 mins in calls, 75 text, 30 min pandora, gmaps for traffic, 30 web pages like newegg or cyclegear, 15 actually read emails, and maybe 5 pictures. With this usage I am getting 6-7 hrs battery life if I leave the data and cellular line active. If I throttle the radios via airplane mode (its my second line) and use wifi for all connections I can get almost 2 days out of the device. I use setcpu but dont see a big difference in either case. Well just thought I could contribute some input. Thanks for everyones hard work.
stupidheadted said:
I am having similar battery issues with my device. I currently have a tmo Hd2 w/ Energy rom winmo build using 2.15 radio and the latest mdj build on a class 6 8gb. With typical usage i.e. 30 mins in calls, 75 text, 30 min pandora, gmaps for traffic, 30 web pages like newegg or cyclegear, 15 actually read emails, and maybe 5 pictures. With this usage I am getting 6-7 hrs battery life if I leave the data and cellular line active. If I throttle the radios via airplane mode (its my second line) and use wifi for all connections I can get almost 2 days out of the device. I use setcpu but dont see a big difference in either case. Well just thought I could contribute some input. Thanks for everyones hard work.
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first off your sd card (class 6) draws more power. and the kernel has a lot to do with it. these are all based off a new kernel. very different. get the extended battery its worth it
you could also try just turning off data connection, that way you still get calls and regular text, then you can turn on wifi to get everything you lost with data when you need it.
You guys can also check out an app called "SuperPower XDA-BETA" which is on XDA and also on the Android market. It has a ton of power saving features including turning off data when the screen is off automatically (much more than just this) just an example.
Here is the link to the development thread-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807989
Did you try to use the super power app? For me it has made my wireless connection stop working. WiFi still does but mobile data hasn't worked at all.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
My pwer consumption comes upto 296mA with currentwidget updating every second :-(
motoman234 said:
I swear a huge percent of the threads being started in the past day were questions regarding my builds, which I don't understand because I am answering EVERY question possible in my thread as much as I can.
P.S. I replaced the Incredible build with the Evo build for a reason. One of them being, it's better on battery. Please from now on, ask any questions regarding any build in that builds thread, that's why we have them. If I can help you with anything please let me know.
Thanks,
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malaeus said:
why did you post this here........ this goes in general or q&a
i mean... seriously..... read the forum rules and follow them......
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Some ppl are not having battery issues which clear from following the relevant threads. Please try adjusting your WinMo ROM/Radio/Android Kernel/SD Card and you'll be pleasantly surprised. This thread should be closed or moved.
nickthequick13 said:
Did you try to use the super power app? For me it has made my wireless connection stop working. WiFi still does but mobile data hasn't worked at all.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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It worked fine for me but I didn't use it for long since I get plenty of hours out of my battery with heavy usage. It seems like the kind of app that works great for most but for some it doesn't.
nangathegr8 said:
My pwer consumption comes upto 296mA with currentwidget updating every second :-(
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296mA isn't bad when running using the phone. I have seen WAY over that in some builds.
malaeus said:
why did you post this here........ this goes in general or q&a
i mean... seriously..... read the forum rules and follow them......
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LMAO at Mr Rulebook...lol
matthew33 said:
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LMAO at Mr Rulebook...lol
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Ahahaha
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
songokussm said:
most of it is due to that the device can never 'sleep' or enter an idle mode. which is very low power. So the phone is always consuming power.
However with both of the android roms i am using i can go a full day with out charging with high usage.
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I think standby powerdrain is now acceptable with latest build's/kernels..It mostly 3-8Mah...I don't think its much lower than that even in WinMo..because rated standby time for HD2 in ideal scenario (on which rating is done) is 480Hrs on a 1230mAh battery which gives ~ 3mAh standby drain..
Even During the call the drain is acceptable its mostly 220-250mAh with screen off...so a 1230mAh battery is going to give you approx 5.5 hour talktime which is again close to rated 6hr talktime of HD2 with WinMo...
The main problem is display and Android Apps...they draw huge power, and I think even Native android phones from Motorola, HTC etc are suffering from same too. I've seen Evo, tmobile touch 4g, droid x owners complain how their phone barely last 1 day with moderate usage and such...There's only one exception though i.e. Galaxy S which many people claim has good battery, other than than that i've not seen a single android phone of > 3.7'' display being praised for battery....
WP7 Battery Drainage Vs. Radio Rom:
After searching in Forums, I Found that most of us (WP7_HD2 Owners ) have a great issue with battery drainage.
I also found that some of us tested radio roms and found that it affects the drainage directly but not the same way the same version did on WM6.5.x
SO I wanted to create this forum to brain storm and try several radios and check what is the best for our Beloved HD2
I will post and edit the best radios based on your reviews so more you post results more we will get clearer image of what's optimum:
So Based on what we experience ; Radios are sorted Best on top:
1- Radio 2.12.50.02_2
2- Radio 2.14.50.04
3- Radio 2.15.50.14
I know it depends on your network provider also, but At the end it's kind of trial and error forum, we get help from each other: there is nothing certain 100 %.
Rest will follow...
gsidhom said:
WP7 Battery Drainage Vs. Radio Rom:
After searching in Forums, I Found that most of us (WP7_HD2 Owners ) have a great issue with battery drainage.
I also found that some of us tested radio roms and found that it affects the drainage directly but not the same way the same version did on WM6.5.x
SO I wanted to create this forum to brain storm and try several radios and check what is the best for our Beloved HD2
I will post and edit the best radios based on your reviews so more you post results more we will get clearer image of what's optimum:
So Based on what I read on other forums as starting; Radios are sorted Best on top:
1- Radio 2.14.50.04
2- Radio 2.15.50.14
Rest will follow...
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Maybe radio 2.12.xx.xx should be tested also. It is a 576mb enabled radio also.
i've tried 3 radios so far
2.12 is the best, and 2.14 and 2.15 are very similar
i am testing 2.10 now
im using htc hd2 t8585, not tmous
i am using the 2.15,,works normally,, not bad,,but neither remarkable.
Managed to pull 30 hours until recharge with moderate usage on 2.12.50.02-2 radio. UK Virgin mobile' s best radio I might say when it comes to batery drainage.
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express
I have radio as 2.14. Would like to know whether the radio 2.12 is better ?
Wrong forum, this is is development not Q&A/General
Doesn't location also have to be taken into account? I understood that a radio that gives great performance in the UK could be terrible elsewhere and vice versa.
I'm not suggesting that this thread isn't a decent idea, just that users should also post their country of use.
I tried WP7 with radio version 2.15.50.14, the battery lasts two days, vs windows mobile 6.5, 5 days.
But my opinion is that the problem is a bug that allows the use of gprs/3g link cause some sort of continuous, although the 3G connection is switched off.
Im using Radio 2.12.50.02_2 simply because I seem to get a better signal with it. Ive not noticed much difference in the battery life than when I was using Radio 2.15.50.4
Just added it here because it discuss the topics mainly accessible through development, and want most of us to reach it....
I have switched from radio 2.15 to 2.14. and I see improvement in battery life
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but it's just something I experienced that might be found useful....or I may have a freaky battery
Could the problem with the battery drainage could be related to the battery state when WP7 was installed?
I installed it on my device when the battery was half charged and I was only getting 1/2 a days use before it died. When recharged under WP7 it would take 1hr and only last another 1/2 day...but.........I installed android and am now dual booting WP7 and Android.
I ran the battery out using Android and recharged it under Android to 100% charge. Since doing this WP7 takes 2 hrs to charge instead of 1hr but the battery lasts all day with between 5%-15% remaining after 12 hours.
Maybe WP7 checks the battery state on install and assumes its fully charged when the device (HD2) is first powered on and incorrectly calculates the maximum charge!?
Just a thought.
welki1979 said:
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but it's just something I experienced that might be found useful....or I may have a freaky battery
Could the problem with the battery drainage could be related to the battery state when WP7 was installed?
I installed it on my device when the battery was half charged and I was only getting 1/2 a days use before it died. When recharged under WP7 it would take 1hr and only last another 1/2 day...but.........I installed android and am now dual booting WP7 and Android.
I ran the battery out using Android and recharged it under Android to 100% charge. Since doing this WP7 takes 2 hrs to charge instead of 1hr but the battery lasts all day with between 5%-15% remaining after 12 hours.
Maybe WP7 checks the battery state on install and assumes its fully charged when the device (HD2) is first powered on and incorrectly calculates the maximum charge!?
Just a thought.
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I believe you are right. For the first time did y HD2 chage under wp7 and i noticed that the battery did not last half a day. I usually charge my batteries through an external phone battery charger (have 3 batterie which i rotate).
I am trying 2.14 in London Uk. So far better than 2.15. Will try 2.12. I remember there was one radio in particular that was FAB for battery life but so so for reception. I will try to find out which because for me battery life is more important. Could have have been evem 2.12. Will have to search the other forums.
welki1979 said:
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but it's just something I experienced that might be found useful....or I may have a freaky battery
Could the problem with the battery drainage could be related to the battery state when WP7 was installed?
I installed it on my device when the battery was half charged and I was only getting 1/2 a days use before it died. When recharged under WP7 it would take 1hr and only last another 1/2 day...but.........I installed android and am now dual booting WP7 and Android.
I ran the battery out using Android and recharged it under Android to 100% charge. Since doing this WP7 takes 2 hrs to charge instead of 1hr but the battery lasts all day with between 5%-15% remaining after 12 hours.
Maybe WP7 checks the battery state on install and assumes its fully charged when the device (HD2) is first powered on and incorrectly calculates the maximum charge!?
Just a thought.
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You might be on to something here! I charged my phone to full capacity while downloading and waiting to install WP7 and my battery had been good. I even believed that it holds better than with android builds on NAND or SD. Lets investigate this, please.
Radio 2075027_2
Ok I managed to find the radio that gave me excellent battery life under Windows 6.5 rom = Radio 2075027_2. I reasearched my old posts in another forum.
I have installed it fine and will test out over the next couple of days and report back.
If anyone else wants to try, the radio is in link below:
www.4shared.com/file/hIq2kMVF/Leo_Radio_2075027_2.html
abbas said:
You might be on to something here! I charged my phone to full capacity while downloading and waiting to install WP7 and my battery had been good. I even believed that it holds better than with android builds on NAND or SD. Lets investigate this, please.
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Same here, I've charged fully my battery before reinstalling WP7 and I'm on my second day without charging, thos I'll have to do so in a few.
tboy2000 said:
Ok I managed to find the radio that gave me excellent battery life under Windows 6.5 rom = Radio 2075027_2. I reasearched my old posts in another forum.
I have installed it fine and will test out over the next couple of days and report back.
If anyone else wants to try, the radio is in link below:
www.4shared.com/file/hIq2kMVF/Leo_Radio_2075027_2.html
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Remember, just a warning for everyone.
If you use a 2.07, you want be able to boot into Android (if you dual boot using MAGLDR SD card).
Android needs 2.08 and up.
i tested 2.10
it is a little bit inferior than 2.12 =) but it is still great
I'm on Twilight DFC ( last version with htc hub )
Rom use : 2.14.50
HSPL : 2.08
card SD : micro SD sandisk 4Go class 4
Magldr : 1.3
Use : no really ( check my mails every 3 hours , 20 sms per day , little internet with 3g.
Désactivated : my 3g, wifi, localisation for a better battery level. My emails are checking just every hour by option.
Results : 100% at 8 A.m , 20% at 7 P.m ...
The battery are very drain...
with rom 2.15.50 it is the same
rom i have use : xmob 1.3 / 1.4 , moonlight ... and.. it is the same problem.
Please help me .
Same issue here. It's about 60mA battery drain, guess something wrong in power management.
You've most likely forgot to disable bluetooth completley. There is a 60mA BT bug in some roms.
bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
How to completely turn off bluetooth? It was turned off in settings
Yes, Settings/Bluetooth disable
jenzy1985 said:
bluetooth is off, but the battery running time is still bad. What Radio Rom is definitely the best ?
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2.12.50 with the battery tweak found in the development subforum gives me over a day with moderate to heavy usage (games, 3G internet, 3 e-mail [email protected] min, 30 min. voice calls). In standby (only mail sync on) I get 10-12% battery drop over the night.
Wait for a few recharge cycles and it will settle. At first I got 12-15 hrs. After 2 weeks it got MUCH better.
is your batter being charged propperly?
The battery tweak sets the full level for the battery.
you must first charge the battery to its maximum level then run the reg tweak
Now here is the problem, WP7 on our HD2 will not charge the full batter all of the time. Quite often you must charge until it goes green, then reboot and charge so more, keep repeating until the HTC battery tool reports the ACR level roughly the same as the FULL level.
to give you an idea
Ive just charged my phone over night, it says its full, it wont charge any more but the tool reports it only half full, even though the indicator shows full. But my battery life will drop like a rock and may report being empty when its not.
If i restart my phone just now the tool shows a jump in ACR value to about 800mAh it then allows me to charge the remaining 400mAh.
or you might find that restarting it shows the battery is full in both indicator and ACR value
The point is, after a full charge, restart the phone because until you do the phone doesnt appear to know whats goig on wth the battery, im guessing this is something to do with the fact that the HD7 and HD2 DO have some small differences inside.
I think what frustrates me more than anything else is the sheer unpredictability of my battery performance. I have done all the tweaks and installed the battery tool but overnight in the past week I have seen the battery go down as low as about 15-20% and remain as high as 80% with a range in between (estimated values, of course).
I'm now going to try to look at my data usage to see if anything is causing the radio to work extra hard some nights and not on others.
If it was at least consistent I could then start thinking about Radio versions, management strategies and the like but while it's so variable it a bit hard to get scientific with it...!
indeed it is a bit of a pain but remember we were never ment to have this ROM.
remember though it might be unpredictable because its not full, its not as easy as it sems to get a full charge, even when htc battery tool and MS tells us its full it might not be, persistant restart and charge usually gets it done
It is definitely battery problem exists! Don't try to hide it because all that stuff you are talking here to solve that is not working! Test in 2G network without any BT and WiFi during 24h failed, battery completely drained without reason.
no one is saying there isnt a problem, there are seveal problems
The big one is you shouldnt have WP7 on your HD2, our device was not supported, you cant say the HTC HD7 is the same because it is not, largely it is yes, but internally it has differences, one of these differences seem to be the controler for the battery
To be clear, WP7 cant report the correct battery level without tweaking it, and in some instances WP7 will not completely charge your phone but it may appear full there by leading to quick battery drainage
I second that. I think it's the matter of hit and miss. I have two hd2s, and one of them has ****e battery life. Both are using the same rom, same radio, same battery optimisation technique btw.
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
arkatis said:
I bought an HD7 cause of the battery drainage of WP7 HD2, multi touching, downloading from market e.t.c!
I know HD2 is better than HD7 because you can have everything but... WP7 is my thing ya know??? So if you guys liked WP7 just go out there and buy your selves an official WP7 device! Believe me i l.o.v.e it and i will stick with it!
Battery life on HD7 is stunning! I have it running 3 days now and now i have 20% with moderate use..
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Worse recommendation I ever saw. When first android port was released, there was huge battery drainage too but now I'm using android on my HD2 with 3 days batt life and I didn't buy new android device. So it can be fixed without wasting money.
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
where to get an hd7 for 150,- euro????? i'll going out and get two of them, too
for me wp7 is boring until now. almost no customization.. when you want to turn off data or wifi or bt you have to navigate through 2 or 3 menus.
and it is slow even though there are beautiful animations. (contacts open in about 2 seconds and in android it is about 0,5 seconds)
i am all for simplicity as long as you have all functions and speed.
btw battery is enough for 1 day with moderate use but forget using it from early morning and a long partynight
(camera issue still a bummer)
im all up for opinions on here....so ill give me own
Im sorry but i have not seen a more fluid and resposive device then the HD2 with WP7, iphone, android on various models even WP7 on other devices dont appear as quick as mine but thats the luck of the draw with using our HD2 some folk have had issues others think its amazing. contacts for me, around 200ish load instantly
luck of the draw
battery life is a concern still as is the camera other than that all is good
arkatis said:
In my opinion..Android is boring.. I know that battery life on Android HD2 is awesome but the OS is very Boring... When i flashed WP7 i said "this will be my daily OS" (i love simplicity..)... At that time i needed to charge my battery daily and i was a little bored of the hard keys and battery and stuff like that! (also i had some lost pixels on the screen) Didn't wanted to go back to Android though! So why do i have to keep my boring HD2??? Since i wanted to run WP7 as a daily OS i got my new HD7 (for 150Euro)
I am Just telling my opinion and i hope you agree with me...
I am a tech lover guy...Yesterday was iPhone, after that HD2,today HD7 and God knows what else for tomorrow!
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I'm not agree. You didn't notice that "super simple" WM7 consuming more energy than "boring" android? And what a point of this?
You know what, rich people always bored. I got my first iphone (3gs) just 3 month ago, and HD2 was like a gift from my friends in America.