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HTCSense.com Fast Boot Announcement

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htcsense-com-will-backup-and-remotely-locate-wipe-htc-devices/
HTCSense.com
With the new HTCSense.com service, people can simply manage their mobile phone experience from their HTC phone or personal computer. For example, people can easily locate a missing phone by triggering the handset to ring loudly, even if it is set to silent, or to flag its location on a map. If the phone's been lost or stolen, users can remotely lock the phone, forward calls and texts to another phone, send a message to the phone to arrange its return or even remotely wipe all personal data from it. HTCSense.com makes it easy to setup a new HTC phone or access archived mobile content such as contacts, text messages and call history from a PC browser. People can also customize their phones with exclusive HTC content like wallpapers, HTC scenes, sounds or plug-ins.
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...the new HTC Fast Boot that enables people to quickly make a call or check emails by shortening the time taken to complete the power-up sequence.
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So will we be seeing this on our incredibles?

I hope so. Did you see the video for the Desire Z w/ the boot "sequence"? WOW.
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"I Hate Web Video Version": You see the "Engadget" logo screen for ~1 sec, fades to phone starting bootup sequence. You see the presenter pull his hand away from the top of the phone where the power button presumably is and the screen go from black to the white background w/ green "HTC" & black "quietly brilliant" text. At the same time he says "I've turned it on... and literally it's ready." Presenter proceeds to unlock the phone ***less than 5 seconds*** into the video.

I really hope they add this sort of function to ours.. The short boot time seems sort of hardware related though. :/

JetBomber117 said:
I really hope they add this sort of function to ours.. The short boot time seems sort of hardware related though. :/
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not necessarily, if you change the boot sequence, and disable a lot of the services that initialize during the boot sequence, and put them at the end so they are setting up in the background.
i didn't watch the video, did it show sense starting after he unlocked or was it ready to go right after unlock?

I'm pretty sure we'll get this on the Dinc and every phone that's running Sense...this is XDA Devs after all, nothing escapes the Devs.

I think we have a good chance of seeing this legitly as well... well at least the first part, it reminds me a bit of Apple's MobileMe.

I'd be more worried about VZW taking forever to approve this update.

I want landscape sense like the desire z. ****ing retarded my incredible can't do it.

Wow that bootup time was almost unnoticable. I can do without the droid eye animation if it would just go right to my home screen.

I completely agree with Honestly77. I would love to be able to view the home screen in landscape.

patches152 said:
i didn't watch the video, did it show sense starting after he unlocked or was it ready to go right after unlock?
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Sense is up and ready to go after approximately 4 seconds from pressing the power.
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rkaplins said:
I completely agree with Honestly77. I would love to be able to view the home screen in landscape.
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Get an app called LauncherPro. Allows you to customize the home screen and landscape mode.

MrNavey said:
Get an app called LauncherPro. Allows you to customize the home screen and landscape mode.
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+1. I hate how when your in landscape mode and go into an app it doesnt force the app to change in to landscape. But whatev.
Back on topic I dont think HTC will give us the sence 2.0 or the quick boot. They prob will come out on new phones and we will have to take to XDA for those new goodies. But hopefully HTC lets the newest HTC models they have already released get that update.

jager420 said:
+1. I hate how when your in landscape mode and go into an app it doesnt force the app to change in to landscape. But whatev.
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Are you talking about LauncherPro? Apps come up for me in Landscape if they support it.
Back on topic I dont think HTC will give us the sence 2.0 or the quick boot.
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I'm just hoping that it's even possible on our phones -- there might be very low level changes required to pull off such quick booting.

I bet we see this. Even though their demo boots literally 10 times faster, we know the hardware is not 10x faster... Although we may aquire it via unofficial rom...
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What's new with Froyo on DX

The DX specific changes with the Froyo update that I've noticed:
• Better text zoom bubble for cursor placement and text selection. Faster. Nicely shifted up, so not as covered by finger.
• Swype looks nicer, also seems quicker/smoother.
• Clock in notif bar now shows AM/PM (seems a waste of space).
Anything else that's not general to Froyo?
e.g.

A couple of more that I noticed....
- Lock screen is different.
- Some minor changes to gmail(even before the new 2.2 version of gmail). You can now click to the next message without going back to the inbox first.

In addition to what you guys mentioned... the gallery has changed, they added a file explorer program, and the phone seems to run quite a bit faster (I'm using LauncherPro Plus, not the stock launcher). They said they were going to improve the weather and calendar widgets, but I didn't notice any change.

New camera app that was in the leaked build?

Don't notice any difference in Files program, using LauncherPro but not plus. Phone seems to respond faster. Quadrant up from 1290's to 1400+ however stopping services seems slower?

How are you guys getting 1400+ in Quadrant? My highest run was 1375. So far FroYo has been good except I'm not sure if I like the removal of the .com button in the browser keyboard.

m2thedeep said:
How are you guys getting 1400+ in Quadrant? My highest run was 1375. So far FroYo has been good except I'm not sure if I like the removal of the .com button in the browser keyboard.
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Reran Quadrant now 1445,seems to getting faster, previous run was 1403.

Quadrant up to 1513 then , when pressing menu button settings was unresponsive so rebooted , now working ,will monitor , quadrant now high 1390's FWIW

Now back up to high 1400's , phone is stable and everything's appears to be working. Youtube is great.

Holding down "Home" button gives you a Recent App window. Somewhat same as before but I think it looks nicer.

Long hold on Magnify glass button gives you a speak-to-search tutorial. Was this available on 2.1?

Voice Actions is only available in 2.2
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Long hold on Magnify glass button gives you a speak-to-search tutorial. Was this available on 2.1?
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They changed the way the period and comma work. Before you could double tap that button to switch between period and comma, now its period by default and you have to long press for other punctuation. Overall I find it a little annoying and makes it take longer for me to text because I have to wait for a comma.
Also they changed something with the autocorrect/predictive text but I'm not exactly sure how. All I know is,sometimes after I'm done typing a text, I hit done, go to hit send (muscle memory, without looking at the screen) and somehow accidentally end up changing a word in the text message based off of a predictive text list that is still active underneath the text window. I'm not sure why it stays afterwards.

Has anyone else had any trouble playing media like pandora and mp3's? It will play for awhile and then it says media type not recognized and I have to reboot. Once I reboot my mp3 plays just fine then does it again.
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skraapz27 said:
Has anyone else had any trouble playing media like pandora and mp3's? It will play for awhile and then it says media type not recognized and I have to reboot. Once I reboot my mp3 plays just fine then does it again.
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Pandora works fine for me, although lately I've gotten a lot of error messages in the beginning when I First open it, but they don't seem to affect playback. I haven't really tried many MP3s, but I have noticed videos, specifically videos that I actually took with the camera, are giving me that exact same behavior. It says it's unsupported, and then if I reboot it works for a little while, then stops working again.

Have any of you gone from the 2.2 leak to 2.2 OTA? The OTA will have a newer kernel and baseband and I am curious to know if a performance increase is noticeable going from the Leak to OTA.

I have this problem. Had to reset the phone to get it to stop. Very annoying issue.
skraapz27 said:
Has anyone else had any trouble playing media like pandora and mp3's? It will play for awhile and then it says media type not recognized and I have to reboot. Once I reboot my mp3 plays just fine then does it again.
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There is now a HDMI option in the media player. I haven't tested it but I don't remember seeing it in Eclair.

TheFuzz said:
I have this problem. Had to reset the phone to get it to stop. Very annoying issue.
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I'm glad its not just me its.really frustrating.
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[Q] Who uses the Genius button?

I had a MyTouch 3G never used the search button EVER for the 8+ months I had it. Now when I got the MyTouch4G I have yet to use the genius button except to try it out.
Does anyone use the button regularly or is it a gimmick that the phone really didn't need?

Jeffmeister said:
I had a MyTouch 3G never used the search button EVER for the 8+ months I had it. Now when I got the MyTouch4G I have yet to use the genius button except to try it out.
Does anyone use the button regularly or is it a gimmick that the phone really didn't need?
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from what i heard once you start using it, it comes in handy :/ i havent used it myself though

I never used the search button on my myTouch3G but I find the genius button pretty dang handy and use it. Don't know what the huge complaint is about. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I find it amazing, I go hands free all day, its like having a secretary in your pocket .
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It's way better than I thought it would be. In the browser and want to turn the WiFi on? Push the Genius button and say "Turn WiFi on". Bang, it turns on. No need to go into settings. Same for bluetooth and GPS. Want to open an app? For the sake of example, push the Genius button and say "Show me Angry Birds". Bam, you're flinging and busting in seconds. The Genius button can do a lot more than the few little examples we've already seen. So handy.
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I tried to give the genius button a go. Every time I click on it I have to wait for it to sync my contacts. Takes to long for me, maybe there is a setting I missed. Been using Vlingo. Now that is an awesome app.

I thought it was a gimmick, but I use hands free mode every day! I love being able to hold text conversations without having to even look at my phone.
Also, since I learned I can open any app with it, I've been using it more.
I had played with the genius button on my gf's myTouch Slide and wasn't impressed, but the new version on the MT4G is sweet! You should give it a shot.
BTW, as far as activating your contacts every time you open it. Hit menu while you are in the genius app, go to phonebook updates, configure and select manual. That way it will never do that again. You just have to remember to update it whenever you add a new contact.

i used the search button on my n1 a lot, and the genius button just takes it to another level

CyberStorm98 said:
I thought it was a gimmick, but I use hands free mode every day! I love being able to hold text conversations without having to even look at my phone.
Also, since I learned I can open any app with it, I've been using it more.
I had played with the genius button on my gf's myTouch Slide and wasn't impressed, but the new version on the MT4G is sweet! You should give it a shot.
BTW, as far as activating your contacts every time you open it. Hit menu while you are in the genius app, go to phonebook updates, configure and select manual. That way it will never do that again. You just have to remember to update it whenever you add a new contact.
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This basically sums up my thoughts exactly. Once I started messing with it, I found the feature to be really useful. Using it in the car through a bluetooth headset is the best since I don't have to worry about texting while driving.

how do you actually get it to send a text through the genius button, i can get it to put in the recipients name and message but i actually have to press send, and cool didnt know it could do all the other functions like opening up apps and turning on wifi

You can tell it to turn on the flashlight too.

JagLau said:
It's way better than I thought it would be. In the browser and want to turn the WiFi on? Push the Genius button and say "Turn WiFi on". Bang, it turns on. No need to go into settings. Same for bluetooth and GPS. Want to open an app? For the sake of example, push the Genius button and say "Show me Angry Birds". Bam, you're flinging and busting in seconds. The Genius button can do a lot more than the few little examples we've already seen. So handy.
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Way cool! didn't know that! Just tried it...nice

Listen, fellas. Look at the 4 options on the screen when pressing Genius and just try to memorize them. Then, say 'more options' for the next 4 options and memorize them. Those 8 options make for a very powerful set of options. For instance, you can change to handsfree mode, in which case all calls and messages are read aloud. Very cool. Can Vlingo do all this, or even Google Search? It seems Genius is very integrated into the system.

I use it all the time when I'm driving.. the hands free mode is awesome.. now only if there was a app that can drive my car to work in the morning while i sit back and chill.. this phone would be awesomer !! but till this magic app comes available then the phone is just awesome.

iGoOsE76 said:
I use it all the time when I'm driving.. the hands free mode is awesome.. now only if there was a app that can drive my car to work in the morning while i sit back and chill.. this phone would be awesomer !! but till this magic app comes available then the phone is just awesome.
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I saw the widget for "hands free mode", when i turned it on it just gives me a notification that its on but im not too sure how to use it... mind explaning?
I figured it would be that you could just talk without hiting the G button but that doesnt seem to be right... thanks...
btw your sig is getting a bit long maybe its time you stop upgrading before you take out a whole thread with that thing lol

Used the widget and turn it on and have someone text you and the rest will promp you. Try it out its pretty handy
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CyberStorm98 said:
I love being able to hold text conversations without having to even look at my phone.
Also, since I learned I can open any app with it, I've been using it more.
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Oh damn, I didn't know we could do that! I'll have to start using my GB more often!

Genius button is going to come in handy this winter when I have gloves on outside waiting for the train. Can do stuff you'd otherwise need touch screen for like launching apps, changing settings. (Espresso doesn't let you use optical trackpad to select icons on home screens, tho LauncherPro does.)

CyberStorm98 said:
I thought it was a gimmick, but I use hands free mode every day! I love being able to hold text conversations without having to even look at my phone.
Also, since I learned I can open any app with it, I've been using it more.
I had played with the genius button on my gf's myTouch Slide and wasn't impressed, but the new version on the MT4G is sweet! You should give it a shot.
BTW, as far as activating your contacts every time you open it. Hit menu while you are in the genius app, go to phonebook updates, configure and select manual. That way it will never do that again. You just have to remember to update it whenever you add a new contact.
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Hey thanks for the tip on manual contact voice activation. Didn't think to hit menu in the Genius app.

Why your home key doesn't respond when you long press it.

Just wanted to give some people a heads up on WHY this happens
It isn't your kernel or ROM to blame, it happens because of android coding.
Anyone who's ever used WidgetLocker may recall that they call this the "5 second rule."
Basically when you press home, Android disallows any apps to do anything for about 5 seconds, this includes long pressing home to bring up most recently viewed apps.
WidgetLocker has a way to bypass this, and I believe a few other apps do it (ones that rely on the home key... I think QuickDesk might). I'm unaware of any app that's sole purpose is to do this.
Hope this helps someone

Thanks. I was going crazy trying to figure out why long pressing to access the task manager was not consistent.
And yes, this 5 second rule applies to many services, including hidden APIs for shutting down the screen. Apparently there are no official APIs for this but the hidden APIs requires a small delay (about 5 seconds).

wow, I really thought it was the kernel because this only happen to me when I'm with the OS kernel so I'm ending up flashing the stock kernel. nice.
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Thanks for the info. I knew about the 5 second rule through widget locker, but I didn't know it ran that deep in the system.

But i never use widegt locker and b4 bi-winning i was running trigger with tiger kernel and home long press was fine it is the kernel caus when i first swtiched from os to tiger u could tell the difference its so annoying but i love os with bi-winning just wish that didnt happen
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Tested and confirmed. Thank you BT.
This only seems to be noticeable to me on 2.2.1... I never had this thought on roms like Trigger (2.2).

s15274n said:
Tested and confirmed. Thank you BT.
This only seems to be noticeable to me on 2.2.1... I never had this thought on roms like Trigger (2.2).
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Im on a 2.2.1 rom yet i barely have that(only when im on the homepage and it lasts for about 2 secs max).
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The inconsistent long press drives me crazy. So much so that I ended up switching to the task switcher app.

Strange Nexus 4 KitKat 4.4.2 button behaviour (could it be a bug?)

Hi!
I'm new to the XDA forums.
I have noticed a strange behaviour using buttons while exit applications on KitKat. The issue was not present in Jelly Bean, while I can notice it in KitKat. I thought it was a minor 4.4 bug, but it's still present in 4.4.2 too.
I am running Android 4.4.2 on a Nexus 4, no root, no system modifications at all.
Steps to reproduce the bug:
- Go to your home screen.
- Tap on battery settings from the quick settings dropdown menu;
- Use home button to come back to the home screen;
- Once again, tap on battery settings from the quick settings dropdown menu;
- This time, use back button to go back;
- Enjoy another background app opening for a second with no reason before going back to your home screen.
I cannot post videos since I'm a new user, but if you wanna check, the youtube code for it is 40Rs6vnx_Wc
Thanks in advance!

No one?

Yes, I've reproduced that but why should it be a bug? Or may be you should learn how the back button in android works? Why do you use it at all when you have the home button and the fast app switching button? It's a matter of time for the back button to be dropped down. Unless of course the "only one home button" thing is not patented by Apple so that back button has to stay. Remember what happened with the search button? It's gone for good. And really that back button is only useful in browsers or if you want to go backwards a sequence of actions inside a single app. Most apps use the back button to quit or run in the background.
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evdrmr said:
Yes, I've reproduced that but why should it be a bug? Or may be you should learn how the back button in android works? Why do you use it at all when you have the home button and the fast app switching button? It's a matter of time for the back button to be dropped down. Unless of course the "only one home button" thing is not patented by Apple so that back button has to stay. Remember what happened with the search button? It's gone for good. And really that back button is only useful in browsers or if you want to go backwards a sequence of actions inside a single app. Most apps use the back button to quit or run in the background.
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@evdrmr, thanks for the feedback.
I still don't get the hatred, but thank you for the time spent in reproducing the bug and confirming that I'm not the only one affected by this issue.

Yeah...der for me too... noticed it some time back while i was on 4.0 too... don't think its caused by 4.4.2 (rather not fixed by 4.4.2)...
And somehow, its always the gallery app for me...
quarara said:
Hi!
I'm new to the XDA forums.
I have noticed a strange behaviour using buttons while exit applications on KitKat. The issue was not present in Jelly Bean, while I can notice it in KitKat. I thought it was a minor 4.4 bug, but it's still present in 4.4.2 too.
I am running Android 4.4.2 on a Nexus 4, no root, no system modifications at all.
Steps to reproduce the bug:
- Go to your home screen.
- Tap on battery settings from the quick settings dropdown menu;
- Use home button to come back to the home screen;
- Once again, tap on battery settings from the quick settings dropdown menu;
- This time, use back button to go back;
- Enjoy another background app opening for a second with no reason before going back to your home screen.
I cannot post videos since I'm a new user, but if you wanna check, the youtube code for it is 40Rs6vnx_Wc
Thanks in advance!
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mananbond007 said:
Yeah...der for me too... noticed it some time back while i was on 4.0 too... don't think its caused by 4.4.2 (rather not fixed by 4.4.2)...
And somehow, its always the gallery app for me...
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@mananbond007, thanks for taking the time to checking it out

No hatred matey. It's just one of those days... You know. Last night I went to the cinema and watched The Hobbit, had only a couple of hours to sleep, woke up early... Usual stuff.
Oh, and do you know what? It could be a bug... Why don't you report it to Google or to a bug tracker? Have you checked all available 4.4.2 ROMs if they are infected with it or someone has already found a cure? Or why don't you exploit it further and write a dirty little app to gain control over people's phones through this flaw? And how the f*ck did you even find it? Sounds like an incredible amount of spare time on your hands to me. Or just a pattern based repetitive clicks due to lack of "some more important things to do"?
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Good catch. Same here on Stock 4.4.2

andr0idfreak said:
Good catch. Same here on Stock 4.4.2
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Thank you, @andr0idfreak
In the meantime, I have filed a bug in the AOSP issue tracker. Its number is 63570.

quarara said:
Thank you, @andr0idfreak
In the meantime, I have filed a bug in the AOSP issue tracker. Its number is 63570.
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Starred

Yes. Me too. For me it was my last opened app that appear and then gone.

evdrmr said:
No hatred matey. It's just one of those days... You know. Last night I went to the cinema and watched The Hobbit, had only a couple of hours to sleep, woke up early... Usual stuff.
Oh, and do you know what? It could be a bug... Why don't you report it to Google or to a bug tracker? Have you checked all available 4.4.2 ROMs if they are infected with it or someone has already found a cure? Or why don't you exploit it further and write a dirty little app to gain control over people's phones through this flaw? And how the f*ck did you even find it? Sounds like an incredible amount of spare time on your hands to me. Or just a pattern based repetitive clicks due to lack of "some more important things to do"?
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You my friend, are a pathetic douchebag. I need not say more.

AlwaysDroid said:
You my friend, are a pathetic douchebag. I need not say more.
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Thank you so much about that comparison. I like it and I wouldn't be able to think of a better phrase to describe myself. And do you know why I like it so much??? ...OFC you don't. Because Kuoshik Dutta used to be called exactly the same by many people recently and still he is one of the best developers out there. That makes me feel one step closer to the gods. Off the off-topic.
Sorry but I couldn't understand what's your opinion about the bug?
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Same here, it opens the last app. Can someone provide a link so I can report the bug with that number? 63570

Same happens here. On stock 4.4.2. Hope this is get fixed.
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I don't have that bug!

According to the bug report, it looks like the bug has been assigned to a Google engineer.

Same bug here but it happens often and with many apps. Going back and a cached app appears for a second