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Wow F U samsung

assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
“Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors”.
“If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development”.
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are you kidding me..its the same damn device (EDIT: as in the other galaxy s phones)

bobdude5 said:
assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
are you kidding me..its the same damn devices
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.

Kcarpenter said:
While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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Dont forget landscape mode for the keyboard, led light too....
Well oh well eventually we will get gingerbread on our devices and if not im sure ill have a new phone next year anyway so froyo will hold me over til then...

In my opinion this is a conflicting report with what that one leak tweeter/w/e he was said. Samsung didn't say no, they basically said "Um, well, uh maybe?" so it has, at least in mind, just as little credibility as some guy saying we were getting it. Just have to wait and see.

This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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spdwiz18 said:
This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....

davidrules7778 said:
Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
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i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas

spdwiz18 said:
i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas
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Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
1) Let down horribly - No X
or
2) Content - X
Having no hope means you can be:
1) Pleasantly surprised - X
or
2) Content - No X
Hope is stupid. Its math.

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung
samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...

muyoso said:
Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
1) Let down horribly - No X
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2) Content - X
Having no hope means you can be:
1) Pleasantly surprised - X
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2) Content - No X
Hope is stupid. Its math.
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wow.... thats optimism for you...

noobnl said:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung
samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
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Likely for the nexus s?
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Kcarpenter said:
While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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But its not only our device. Theyre talking about their whole galaxy s line. Samsung says we will think about it, while htc says we're working on it.
I love my phone but damn you samsung. If only htc had super amoled screens, and put decent camera sensors in their phones..I'm really considering that HTC Knight

This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.

live2ride96 said:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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LOL. I thought it would at least be a few days after Froyo's release before we got these posts about Gingerbread.

live2ride96 said:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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lol trading my epic for an evo this weekend!

I have 2 people wanting to trade their Evo for my epic. Samsung doesn't support their products as well as HTC, and it sucks. For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.

heathmcabee said:
For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
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Uh, Let me take a wild guess. Could it be . . . . . . for PROFIT??

spdwiz18 said:
This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
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I like the confidence of this link
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ill never buy samsung again
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Yes, yes, for profit. We all get that they're in the business of selling phones, not giving free updates. That's why I read an interesting blog about paying for OS updates a little while back. I'd gladly pay a few bucks to get honeycomb or ice cream on a 6 month to year old phone and to have them out in a timely fashion. Then Samsung and all the other manufacturers would have an incentive to actually put out updates for phones as well.

haven't seen much talk on samsung galaxy s II

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
looks like quite a phone! i've had it out against samsung since i first bought the samsung moment for my wife and i (and had both of them swapped 3 times because of random data disconnections and no gps locks), but perhaps they've changed. what are your thoughts?

Because we talk about the EVO here.

do we know for sure this is coming to sprint? if so id say a fall launch date. ill pick one up if it does in fact come.

Haven't heard anything about this coming to Sprint.
And it does look like a beast of a phone.
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conqu1stador said:
Haven't heard anything about this coming to Sprint.
And it does look like a beast of a phone.
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Looks like a wanna be iPhone to me
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conqu1stador said:
Haven't heard anything about this coming to Sprint.
And it does look like a beast of a phone.
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i heard a rumor that it may on android central.

swaze said:
Looks like a wanna be iPhone to me
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hence why apple is currently suing samsung over it.

swaze said:
Looks like a wanna be iPhone to me
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I don't like the 'home' button. And wasn't this the one to kick off the lawsuit? I see it ... the similarities, if you will, but I meant more as a whole. This phone is supposed to pack a punch.
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If this phone, the 3D and the nexus S dropped on the same day id hands down get the GS2. Ive been following it for a minute but its looking like AT&T at this point so thats not even an option for me. IF it comes to Sprint or VZW im getting it

rushco said:
Because we talk about the EVO here.
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and the nexus s 4g

rushco said:
Because we talk about the EVO here.
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this is the general section. and the nexus & evo3d or any future phone that will dethrone the evo is worthy to talk about here. it's upgrade time for most of us and probably most of the devs including toast. nothing wrong with having a discussion.

Knowing Sprint, we will probably get a keyboard variation of that phone. Epic 2 or Epic __, maybe a new name entirely. EPIC 3D would be funny lol (1st Qwerty 3D phone )
It does seem impressive, Samsung seems to be cleaing up thier updating track record too. The only excuse I have of not buying it is the weaker XDA backing. Not to say there will be none but I prefer HTC + XDA.

http://db.tt/u7ryyLG
One of the galaxy s ll live wp...pretty cool it supports real time weather and time change(day to night)!

http://db.tt/mlLcTrm
The second galaxy s ll live wp...this one seems to only support time change tho!

fixxxer2008 said:
hence why apple is currently suing samsung over it.
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This is what crApple is suing Samsung over:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samm...n-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-units-this-year_id18520
The interesting part is the rumor that Eldar Murtazin spread this week in regards to the Apple-Samsung lawsuit, about a Samsung Galaxy S3 upgrade that is coming late fall, with 4.5" edge-to-edge Super AMOLED Plus display of high resolution, and no hardware keys. These same features Apple is said planning to introduce in the iPhone 6, which will appear many months after the SGS 3, which must have annoyed Cupertino to no end.
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Essentially, Samsung developed features for the Galaxy S3 that Stevie boy wanted to release in the iPhone 6, so Apple is trying to slow/stop Samsung in court, so Apple can be the first one to release those features.

I'm sure Sprint will get a variant of this, its the successor to the Epic 4G. I just hope that this time it doesn't have a hardware keyboard. I think this phone would be the best choice for the next Nexus phone.

HTC Falls Behind Motorola In Updates

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.

ItsLasher said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.

ItsLasher said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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Well bub, thats the price of a locked/signed bootloader & Moto Blek...
This is why we have XDA my friend.

There's also a difference from Eclair to Froyo from Froyo to Gingerbread.
Froyo actually offered something new from Eclair, Gingerbread does have some benefits but mostly nothing groundbreaking. The X and the Evo were updated to Froyo in about the same time frame of their release.

Didn't the Droid X2 already launch though?
Guess it makes sense, if that is true, that they'd start pushing the update. Isn't that the idea with the Evo? Wait for the successor to drop, then update the past device?
Either way, it'll be here soon enough.

reaper24 said:
You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.

swaze said:
Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?

m4rk0358 said:
And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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Think about it, its a marketing ploy. Want GB on sprint, buy the Evo 3d, then after they start selling it, oh by the way, the rest of you guys already signed up can get your update now. If they were to update our phones, what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??

swaze said:
what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?

m4rk0358 said:
I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.

swaze said:
Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.

m4rk0358 said:
I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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To the average consumer? No.
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novanosis85 said:
To the average consumer? No.
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LOL. Let me call my wife and ask her what she thinks of Gingerbread. I'll assume she'll have no idea what I'm talking about and maybe bring up cookies.

m4rk0358 said:
I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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My brother knows about a better phone but he Hung onto his G1 till a great deal came, and it did with t-mobile free mt4g....
So some won't care of better hardware or even software....
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m4rk0358 said:
I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I agree. I don't think HTC makes better phones btw, motorola kills them in battery life, and I prefer phones made of metal.

I also would rather believe that people in general would want the newest phone over the newest software update. The "average consumer" probably has no idea what the latest iteration of Android is or how to even check for the ota for it lol.

Is it really that big of a deal? The majority of us have rooted phones running custom ROMs anyway. There are handfuls of GB ROMs, both Sense and AOSP. We've had GB on AOSP ROMs (CM) for months now, while the Droid X didn't get GB ROMs until recently.
I know sometimes it's just to ***** and complain about something for the sake of *****ing and complaining, but seriously, is there any need to say that HTC isn't the "leader of the cell phone game" anymore just because of one simple software update?
Also,
Unlocked bootloader >>>>>>> OTA GB update

Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.

swaze said:
Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Money hungry corporate whores
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mattykinsx said:
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Lol I wrote HTC they said its up to Sprint .

WWDC Was a Flop, We Can Move On.

no point in talking about the lack of hardware and lame ios5 update.
cloud cloud! everythings in teh cloud!! whatever pfftt.

got to admit, i love the new "notifications" system they got going on.

No point in talking about it???? So why did you create a thread???

kingdazy said:
got to admit, i love the new "notifications" system they got going on.
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I know! It's so sick! True innovation taking place at Apple.
Tapa tapa tapa

jm5503 said:
No point in talking about it???? So why did you create a thread???
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so there wont be a million threads about it.

Iphone 5 on sprint ftw!!!!!!!

dirkyd3rk said:
Iphone 5 on sprint ftw!!!!!!!
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One less reason to stay on Sprint.

liverstealerJobs said:
One less reason to stay on Sprint.
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LMAO. Agreed. Seriously though, yes, they are some great new features. Trouble is Apple is now playing catch up. They present this crap as if it's an industry first. There was literally nothing that I saw that hasn't already been done by Android.

Did I just see people suggest that a carrier carrying a phone, that most the other carriers are going to have, is a reason to leave that carrier?

liverstealerJobs said:
One less reason to stay on Sprint.
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Fail post. All carriers are going to have iPhones lol. What are you going to switch 2, metropcs 0_o
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well for those with ipad 2's that cant jailbreak ios 5 may just be a blessing with some of those features jailbreakers already have

Personally, one less difference between competitors. Now more about the network. Sprint fails in my area. Of course, YMMV in yours.
It is a legit concern how much Apple's influence will hinder a carrier's Android phone development. The Apple hater in me says they will be a black hole that will surpass any nightmare Stephen Hawkins awoke from.
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*Breaking news*
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I'm just going to leave this here..

http://shop.sprint.com/mysprint/sho...=true&INTCID=AB:UEC:HERO:070112:GSIII:960x320

Looks great besides this first comment on the website.
"My only problems are: very very poor reception, it is constantly on roaming. I am not sure if this is a Sprint problem or the phone."

Good Specs on the Device. Although I'd never own one. I'm an HTC Fanboy.

prboy1969 said:
Good Specs on the Device. Although I'd never own one. I'm an HTC Fanboy.
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Yeah I might get one either that or the Galaxy Nexus. We know your a Sense Fanboy lol. A lot of other users on here are too even tho they'll never admit it. I'm more of a AOSP Fanboy just because of functionality. If you like Sense go with the Evo LTE like drob311 did. I'm sure it'll get plenty of Sense roms and hardly any AOSP roms.

Always have been. Has a lot to do with the TP2 days. I've run just about every kind of ROM since starting to mess with Android. But came to the conclusion that I just like Sense Best.
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It can't do what the Shift can..

TDJ512 said:
It can't do what the Shift can..
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Could you be more specific lol?
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Slide a keyboard out
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sparksco said:
Yeah I might get one either that or the Galaxy Nexus. We know your a Sense Fanboy lol. A lot of other users on here are too even tho they'll never admit it. I'm more of a AOSP Fanboy just because of functionality. If you like Sense go with the Evo LTE like drob311 did. I'm sure it'll get plenty of Sense roms and hardly any AOSP roms.
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I hate sense for the most part, but love htc phones lol
Samsung phones feel extremely cheap to me.

jesuscash said:
I hate sense for the most part, but love htc phones lol
Samsung phones feel extremely cheap to me.
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Considering HTC makes pretty much all of their phones with Sense you don't see that as a issue? I've gone through 3 shifts now so what makes HTC phones that much better? They feel well built but crap out and break down easily. Doesn't live up to the quality I expected from HTC...

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Considering HTC makes pretty much all of their phones with Sense you don't see that as a issue? I've gone through 3 shifts now so what makes HTC phones that much better? They feel well built but crap out and break down easily. Doesn't live up to the quality I expected from HTC...
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Go get a Samsung and experience the radios crashing, and you will realize HTC is the way to go... Even the almighty galaxy nexus had the loss of service bug, due to the radios crashing, and I forgot to mention the random airplane mode bug... Sprint and sammy have screwed up every phone that's been released by sprint, not just the moment, but EVERY Samsung device. It's very pathetic... I'll personally be sticking with HTC...
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Go get a Samsung and experience the radios crashing, and you will realize HTC is the way to go... Even the almighty galaxy nexus had the loss of service bug, due to the radios crashing, and I forgot to mention the random airplane mode bug... Sprint and sammy have screwed up every phone that's been released by sprint, not just the moment, but EVERY Samsung device. It's very pathetic... I'll personally be sticking with HTC...
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HTC doesn't make their phone perfect either, isn't that why your on the Evo LTE right now? All brands of phones have their flaws. Look at how nice the samsung screen resolutions are. All I'm saying is don't paint a perfect picture for HTC because it's not all peaches and roses.. Your looking at Samsung from a biased standpoint because of your experiences with the Samsung moment.

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HTC doesn't make their phone perfect either, isn't that why your on the Evo LTE right now? All brands of phones have their flaws. Look at how nice the samsung screen resolutions are. All I'm saying is don't paint a perfect picture for HTC because it's not all peaches and roses.. Your looking at Samsung from a biased standpoint because of your experiences with the Samsung moment.
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Say what you will, but HTC phones don't drop signal like sammys (requiring a battery pull)... You should get a Sammy, you would fit right in with that crowd... And also, I had many moments, a few intercepts and I have family members with epic touch, sg3, nexus s 4g and the g nexus... All of them have serious complaints, the main one being loss of signal and the airplane mode bug... Imagine this... You are on a road trip with your kids, you get in an accident, you go to call 911 because someone needs medical attention, you realize that your phone has no signal and the battery needs to be pulled. While you are pulling the battery, the person who needs medical attention could die in the 2 plus minutes it takes for an unrooted phone to boot... All phones have their flaws, keyboard phones even more so... Like I said, upgrade to a crapsung, you will love the pure crap for a product that you were sold... Sorry, but if you ask anyone that's owned a Sammy and an HTC, almost all of them will say that HTC makes much more reliable phones... And stop talking about me being a sense guy... I run ALL the Roms that are released, sense or aosp, doesn't matter to me...
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Imagine this... You are on a road trip with your kids, you get in an accident, you go to call 911 because someone needs medical attention, you realize that your phone has no signal and the battery needs to be pulled. While you are pulling the battery, the person who needs medical attention could die in the 2 plus minutes it takes for an unrooted phone to boot...
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Lol nice story bro, but I have to go to bed now so story time is over

sparksco said:
Lol nice story bro, but I have to go to bed now so story time is over
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Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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drob311 said:
Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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trollolol
:2cents: they both suck, lets make our own phone.

drob311 said:
Normally I would argue, but, it sounds like you are thinking about getting a Sammy, which means you won't be around the shift forums anymore... Samsung makes the best phones ever, I highly recommend them...
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Why would getting a new phone mean not being here for your bedtime stories? Have another? You might just put me to sleep this time.. Just for that I'm getting a Evo LTE

sparksco said:
Why would getting a new phone mean not being here for your bedtime stories? Have another? Just for that I'm getting a Evo LTE
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Get an lte... Better find a new android forum, your arrogant bull**** attitude won't fly in the lte forums
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drob311 said:
Get an lte... Better find a new android forum, your arrogant bull**** attitude won't fly in the lte forums
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Thanks but I can get whatever phone I want and post on any forum I wish to
Don't need your or anyone else's approval for that.

I think you 2 need to hug it out.. or just **** already.