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So after spending two days with the new official ROM I am dumbstruck that HTC let the Hero out the door as it was initially.
If you guys are like me you read online gadget blog reviews of new phones and you base your purchasing decisions to a lesser or greater extent on the reviews posted on these sites. The Hero received generally favorable reviews across the board BUT they were ALL tarred with the issue of the lagginess and unresponsiveness of the UI. Typical comments were "Sense UI is great but the hardware is not up to the task" etc. Hero was always compared to the iPhone and initially it was a more frustrating experience navigating the UI.
Clearly HTC have the ability to release software without these issues (new ROM proves that!) so why did they? I feel like they *really* hurt the sales and market potential of Hero and Sense UI by releasing an 'unfinished' product.
Can you imagine what Engadget's review (for instance) might have been had they reviewed a Hero with the new ROM?
I bought a Hero despite those reviews because I could see the potential in the handset but I know of others that steered clear because of the massive 'BUT...' at the end of most online reviews.
Its an opportunity missed I fear as the Hero is no longer a 'new' device.
I'm very glad that HTC have made my handset waaaaay nicer to use but seriously HTC... big, BIG ball drop!
Well... the Android phones are not really for the average Joes out there... they are for us techies and gadget lovers that love the freedom of doing cool and neat things with a phone.
We don't want to be tied up in an bondage game conducted/directed by a fruity company... and that is also why we choose a company we know.
Good enough?
You really thought we would feed a troll?
I honestly thought my post was a valid topic in a discussion forum about the HTC Hero.
@Thiesen
Wha?!? I really don't understand what your reply has got to do with my post. I think you've misunderstood the subject of my comments (perhaps if I had written in binary it might have been clearer?)
A broader acceptance of any platform is enabling and will benefit all users from 'techies' to 'average Joes'. Its not a matter of IF Android will become more mainstream but WHEN. I'm sorry if this makes you feel less special.
Troll indeed...
We're early adopters. We like to find bugs. We like to find glitches. And we take great pride in reporting them back to the devs and makers.
The average Joes just want things to work. They are not early adopters. They should get an iPhone then.
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We're early adopters. We like to find bugs. We like to find glitches. And we take great pride in reporting them back to the devs and makers.
The average Joes just want things to work. They are not early adopters. They should get an iPhone then.
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I'm sorry mate but i think thats total rubbish, you wouldn't buy a car knowing it didn't work and happily waste your own time feeding back problems to the manufacture to bring it up to speed. You wouldn't go out and buy a brand new state of the art car and happily put a new engine in it would you knowing the one you had paid for was crap?
AND might I ad, the research and R+D that is put in to these items is all reflected in the price of them. If HTC were giving these phones away for beta testing or what not then fine, but for a £400 handset, i totally agree with the comments made by ShiroEd.
I have had no end of nokia handsets where i have thought nokia have been guilty of the same issue, releasing what could be classed as unfinished products.
Personally, I always though the tech sites overplayed the whole lag issue on the original ROM. Yes it was there, but in my experience the net effect was quite limited and in my case it didn't really limit my ability to use the device. I'm not saying that the issue didn't (or doesn't! ) exist, just that in my opinion it was acceptable for a device of this nature (please no flames from those who disagree).
This may be because I didn't load my home screens with tons of apps, and one of the first things I did do with my Hero was to remove the People and Weather widgets, and set up Peep appropriately.
The average Joes just want things to work. They are not early adopters. They should get an iPhone then.
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That would presume that the iPhone isn't possessed of the same issues that the Hero is/was. Google "iphone lag" and you'll see loads of posts complaining about lag on the iPhone, even for the latest OS and the 3GS.
In addition, you will probably find that the *vast* majority of people who've purchased the Hero have never even heard of XDA-Developers, and probably will never install another ROM. We are in the minority, not the "average joe" when it comes to Hero ownership!
Whilst I disagree with the OP, I don't think he was trolling.
Regards,
Dave
Thiesen said:
We're early adopters. We like to find bugs. We like to find glitches. And we take great pride in reporting them back to the devs and makers.
The average Joes just want things to work. They are not early adopters. They should get an iPhone then.
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Agreed with crash. Thats just rubbish.
Entirely valid topic, and entirely valid point. Nothing remotely troll like about it.
Regardless of the people on this site, the Hero is definitely aimed at the average consumer, as a direct competitor in the iPhone market. Hence the multimedia, Facebook, etc.
Rushed to market I agree, but no idea why... Could just be lack of QA.
Many of the bugs reported here and elsewhere have been met with surprise by HTC, as if they really didnt know they existed. Do they not have a QA department that actually uses the phones in real life? Takes them home, plays with them, uses them all day and night to report the bugs?
Still, the update is great, the phone is flying now. If they could just sort out the crappy contact photo issue, the album caching, and the horrendous lack of bluetooth file transfer, I'd be a happy chap..
I think they shipped out the preview models and early review versions to people in the hope that they'd ignore any slowdown. Most of the review sites seem to have mentioned this in some form, saying that it can be a bit laggy but the final release could be good and the software shows potential - obviously it was never fixed for the first release.
To be fair, we're all early testers for the new HTC interface. If the Hero sells well and works well for everyone then we'll obviously be getting the same thing in future phones.
I don't think HTC is expecting any particular phone to be the next killer phone, they're just working on improvements with each new model.
While it does not make it ok... it seems to be the norm these days to get the product out and iron out bugs in a later release. As long as the quality is respectable, which I feel it was in this case, I can live with it. Particularly since the alternative would be to make do with buying an older model or waiting longer for the handset.
Zuber
Just give us an example of one single gadget that was not rushed out of the door!
The iPhone? Hellooo, the original iPhone didn't even have 3G. Have you ever tried GPRS speed (Go to wireless settings and pick "2G only"), not even funny. Talk about being rushed out of the door!
and apple offered a free upgrade to the 3g version when it was released! So yes may have been rushed out the door but no financial gain in the long run.
Was this a free upgrade that did not involve commuting to a contract ?
If not, then its not free...
Zuber
the handsets weren't free in the first place... you want to split hairs then fine.
The uninformed might think Apple were so caring and generous that they were willing to swap out the phones for "no financial gain"...
You can say many things about Apple, but generous isn't one of them
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Zuber said:
The uninformed might think Apple were so caring and generous that they were willing to swap out the phones for "no financial gain"...
You can say many things about Apple, but generous isn't one of them
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Agreed However i thought it wasn't a bad deal as i have always thought the handsets were a rip off...coming to think of it the tariffs are aswell. I work for network rail and get 30% off all o2 shop tariffs and i still opted for the hero on orange which was a miles better deal!
(sorry for the partial hi-jack! )
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Free upgrade! Just sign on for another 12 months of the 60+EUR/month (AT&T US) plan
Ok, I was one of the early adoptors of Hero. I got it right after its launch and I didnt really had too many complains about the device.
I never ever bought any HTC phone hoping it to be perfect. I always bought HTC knowing it will not be a perfect device out of box but community efforts will make it much much better device over time.
This applies to WinMo devices, and android. Why do we have xda here???
If you ask me, it's actually a great device. I've had far worse :/
I think people kinda underestimate how difficult it is to make good software. And how difficult it is to properly test stuff like this as well.
Next to that, it's always a comprimise. They want the software to be good, but also get the device out as fast as possible. The faster a (good) device is out there, the better that is for HTC in this case. It's a very competitive market, there just isn't enough time to keep working on the software until it's perfect.
The software should be 'good enough' and not perfect. I'm 100% sure they have a bugtracker or something else to keep track of major and minor bugs. At some point someone has to make a decision what will and won't be fixed before launch. And what shall be fixed right after launch.
For a new OS with a new UI like on the Hero I think they did very very well on the first release.
Now I fully agree with the OP, the lag/speed issue with the first ROM was not in HTC's favour. It was something that came up in every review, and people still believe that's a big Hero issue even while it's fixed. On the other hand, there might have been more important things that were fixed during development.
Usually speed improvements and tweaking stuff like that is something you do last. Other bugs and stuff has to be fixed first.
I don't think HTC rushed the phone out the door. The software was good enough so the phone functioned as a phone. It's a smartphone designed with the capability to upgrade the software. As long as the hardware is good quality, then you can work with the software and polish it as you go along.
I never really noticed the lag - it's only put to shame when you compare it with the new software. Look at the problems people are having with the iPhone 3.1 software release and you should be thankful that HTC have actually first delivered useable phone software and then improved it only a month after release. And HTC got some nice innovations to boot with the first release. They were perhaps a bit ambitious with the first release - where the phone did a lot of things when it first came out of sleep or switched screens, including the clock "flipping" animation.
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If you ask me, it's actually a great device. I've had far worse :/
I think people kinda underestimate how difficult it is to make good software. And how difficult it is to properly test stuff like this as well.
Next to that, it's always a comprimise. They want the software to be good, but also get the device out as fast as possible. The faster a (good) device is out there, the better that is for HTC in this case. It's a very competitive market, there just isn't enough time to keep working on the software until it's perfect.
The software should be 'good enough' and not perfect. I'm 100% sure they have a bugtracker or something else to keep track of major and minor bugs. At some point someone has to make a decision what will and won't be fixed before launch. And what shall be fixed right after launch.
For a new OS with a new UI like on the Hero I think they did very very well on the first release.
Now I fully agree with the OP, the lag/speed issue with the first ROM was not in HTC's favour. It was something that came up in every review, and people still believe that's a big Hero issue even while it's fixed. On the other hand, there might have been more important things that were fixed during development.
Usually speed improvements and tweaking stuff like that is something you do last. Other bugs and stuff has to be fixed first.
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Some of these bugs are quite known more or less right out of the box, for instance logging into the market, you couldn't do this unless you actually entered your google credentials when you first setup the phone.
People are going to compare the Hero with the likes of the iPhone, it's the only comparable handset out on the market at the moment. But what i'm afraid of is the lack of future support for the Hero, as yet another handset is on the horizon from HTC. OK, maybe Apple have got it right in respect of only having to supporting one handset (and very simalar firmwares, agreed) which means more time focusing on bug fixes and upgrades.
I hope HTC do not put the Hero to the back of the pile and focus on new handsets
I figured I'd spread some positive press about the N1 seeing as how BGR and some others are bashing it.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/09/android-iphone-switch/
Holy crap! somebody sensible! good read for sure. I hope to seemore articles like this one.
finally an article that doesnt say something along the lines of "X feature in Nexus is Great! But at the same time it sucks!"
But for anyone considering making the jump to Android, you need to keep one thing in mind: many of these early adopters have been using their iPhones non-stop for years. And it takes days, if not weeks, to unlearn your iPhone habits and judge Android on its own merits.
Imagine if you took a longtime Windows user and sat them in front of a Mac for a couple days. They’d probably complain about superficial things like the change in mouse acceleration and the “unintuitive” button placement (the Close button is on the opposite side of the window). It’s not until a week or two after you start using a Mac as your primary computer that you overcome these issues and begin to fully grasp some of the benefits it offers. No, it may not be for you, but there’s really no way you can tell for sure without taking the plunge and using one as your primary computer. It’s the same way with Android.
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Why can't everybody be as open minded as this guy?
TechCrunch has been giving good press to the N1 sense before release, that and LifeHacker featured an article or two. It's not all negative, you just have to steer away from the fanboy sites.
Good to see a positive write up!
Its kind of annoying but from me I can tell you is that I wanted an iphone sense it was released. I now have a G1 for about a year& I did plan to buy an unlocked iphone for tmobile. But after playing around with my ipod touch vs my G1 I realised that it wasn't really fun then I started hearing about the nexus one&after reading about it&seeing it in action the iphone doesn't even exist to me. Eventhough I kinda hate my g1(feels to bulky to me now) I now plan on buying a nexus the end of the month
So yup I was a hardcore iphone fan then out popped the nexus!
(So much more you can do with it. Vs iphone)
A+ article! The first really objective stance I've seen, he can talk about some of the short comings and room for growth in android without acting superioristic.
I'll post some more links as I find them.
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A+ article! The first really objective stance I've seen, he can talk about some of the short comings and room for growth in android without acting superioristic.
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Awesome article. It shows and explains exactly the basis behind these garbage reviews.
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I figured I'd spread some positive press about the N1 seeing as how BGR and some others are bashing it.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/01/09/android-iphone-switch/
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Bravo, on the most balanced article I've read on the Nexus One yet!
Well thought out, informative, and revealing.
Thank you.
I said something similar to this in another thread... basically, how can engadget do a full review on a device they used for prolly a few hours? they had the bloody review up on the 4th of Jan, 1 day before it came out... how do you review a phone that is not out yet? a review should take at least 3 days of extensive looking at, otherwise call it like an initial thoughts review and then do a full review after you have given the phone a week or so of solid use...
i think adaptability to a phone is an element that many people do not realize, apple is king at this because their devices and software are so simple and straightforward... android takes some getting used to since there is navigation and lots of "room" on the device to make it your own... every iphone is the same with just different icons for different apps...
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I said something similar to this in another thread... basically, how can engadget do a full review on a device they used for prolly a few hours? they had the bloody review up on the 4th of Jan, 1 day before it came out... how do you review a phone that is not out yet? a review should take at least 3 days of extensive looking at, otherwise call it like an initial thoughts review and then do a full review after you have given the phone a week or so of solid use...
i think adaptability to a phone is an element that many people do not realize, apple is king at this because their devices and software are so simple and straightforward... android takes some getting used to since there is navigation and lots of "room" on the device to make it your own... every iphone is the same with just different icons for different apps...
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Certain people get the phone earlier for promotional purposes, and reviews. They, I'm simply assuming, had the phone for longer than atleast a day (pure assumption, but I know they did have it atleast before release - atleast they should have -). I do get your point though.
As promised a little more positive press for the Android community.
http://www.businessinsider.com/charts-of-the-week-android-taking-the-wind-out-the-iphones-sails-2010-1
Great article, ive got 2 people switched from iphone to android so far and 2 more that are gonna get the Nexus, thats what i tell everyone, try it for a month then see if you want your iphone back, and they never do. One of my friends was tellin me at work a week or so ago that he wishes he listened to me earlier about goin Android, and he has a Cliq now, imagine if he had this beast haha.
I stopped by the Tmo store today to return a car charger they said would work with my N1; the rep was falling in love with my phone, when he mentioned how he currently has a Cliq and hates "that f**ing thing!".
It seems the press is being paid by "somebody" to write idiotic BS about the Nexus One. Meanwhile, everybody that lays a hand on it, falls in love almost immediately.
Things that make you go "hmmm..."
I haven't really had anybody stop and admire my Nexus yet. I sort of got my co-workers turned on to Android bragging about my G1/MyTouch etc, and they really were impressed with the phone. The main thing that is keeping people from making the switch so quickly is the lack of superb well designed apps. Yes, there are good apps on Android, just not enough and they often lack polish. Kevin Rose just did his review and it was pretty positive.
http://kevinrose.com/post/326066321/nexus-one-review
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As promised a little more positive press for the Android community.
http://www.businessinsider.com/charts-of-the-week-android-taking-the-wind-out-the-iphones-sails-2010-1
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That's december too..
This month should be interesting.
Make the switch. you might like it.
Update:
Steve Wozniak..you know that guy who helped create Apple?..Yeah he loves his Nexus.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/steve-wozniak-shocked-the-tech.ars
Rachel and I broke up this weekend.
I saw it coming awhile ago, but when it happened it was faster than I expected. Rachel and I started our love affair about 6 months ago. We got along very well, but there were drawbacks to our relationship.
I remember when I first saw her, she looked nearly perfect. She was gorgeous in her sexy black outfit, and tall. But she was only 16. You know how 16 is, sexy as hell and full of promise, a bit of a tease.
I tried to introduced her to a few of my friends; Bluant S4, Vlingo and MBW-150. They liked her well enough but she didn’t fully connect to them. She wouldn't even talk to Vlingo.
There were other problems. Like the fact that she wouldn’t let me touch her multiple times (she hated when I tried to pinch her). She would tire out quickly during the day and have to take a nap to recharge.
I started thinking that I needed to maybe look around for someone older, more mature. Someone maybe 21 or 22. I started flirting with a few others, but nothing serious.
Rachel noticed, and started to make some promises. She asked me to give her some time to mature. “just a few months” she said. “just until October, please.” I waited, giving her the benefit of the doubt. October came, but she hadn’t changed. “I need a little more time”, she said. “give me until the end of the month, November at the latest, December for sure.” By this time, someone else had caught my eye.
Desire wasn’t quite as beautiful as Rachel, but she made up for it in other ways. She was more mature for one thing. She was 21, and about to turn 22. We started flirting, and went out a few times. She loved being touched multiple times, and giggled when I pinched her. She was more outgoing and got along with a lot more people. She would speak with everyone in the market, and introduced me to others that I didn't know. She was happy to meet Bluant S4, and Vlingo, and connected right away with MBW-150. She felt faster and more exciting that Rachel too.
So I took the plunge, and broke it off with Rachel. I wished her the best of luck, hoping that she will mature over the next few months. Will I ever date another Finnish/Japanese girl? I doubt it. They look beautiful, but they all seem to tease rather than please. I think I’m done with them. I’m moving on.
Am I happy with Desire? Sure. But I can’t help but feel that there is something missing. Desire’s more petite than Rachel, not quite as high class. She’s missing a few things that I loved about Rachel. Will things last with Desire? I don't know. I think that maybe she might be my rebound girl.
Desire did show me a picture of her cousin the other day. She’s in Europe right now, but might be coming to North America later this year, or early next. She even has almost the same name as Desire, with a few added initials; Desire HD. She looks hot. Reminds me a lot of Rachel. I could get into her in a heartbeat.
But for now, Desire’s my girl and we’re enjoying ourselves.
I want to thank everyone for all of the advise and help I received in this forum. The Xperia X10 was my first Android phone, and you never forget your first.
Please excuse the “farewell post”.
Good luck to all with the 2.1 update, and I hope the devs crack the bootloader so that the updates don’t stop at 2.1.
As an ex-SE fanboy, I really hope that SE gets its act together and starts listening to the dev community. However I really doubt it, which is why the X10 will be my last SE phone.
As for me, I’m moving on to the HTC Desire while I wait for the Desire HD to arrive in Canada. Cheers everyone, see you around.
I thought desire was a male
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789130
Well, at least you are still with android and didn't go after WP7/Symbian
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Well, at least you are still with android and didn't go after WP7/Symbian
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i am thinking to get wp7 device cos it looks so great but i`ll stick with android aswell this is just a thought
Funny post but still its not very helpful and will probably get reduced to a thread of flaming
Trying hard to get used to the 16x9. Also, the weight of it at times I really notice after holding it in bed for a decent amount of time. Also the fact I did not get a data plan and it cost me $853. When I know a wifi only version is coming out that will be quite a bit cheaper. Honeycomb is taking some time to get used to. There aren't many apps for it, so I find myself getting bored. All i seem to be doing with it is web and facebook stuff. I think may return for ipad 2.
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Trying hard to get used to the 16x9. Also, the weight of it at times I really notice after holding it in bed for a decent amount of time. Also the fact I did not get a data plan and it cost me $853. When I know a wifi only version is coming out that will be quite a bit cheaper. Honeycomb is taking some time to get used to. There aren't many apps for it, so I find myself getting bored. All i seem to be doing with it is web and facebook stuff. I think may return for ipad 2.
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Of course it's gonna take some getting used to its a new OS. Obviously there aren't gonna be many apps, as it just came out a week ago.
Sitting here looking at an iPad, a Samsung Galaxy Tab and the Xoom.
Xoom is a bit too bulky. Love the screen size. Waiting for some more apps (I know it just came out, but there are apps on the Galaxy Tab that I want on the Xoom).
Not sure the Xoom is hanging around.
mine is going back for sure
then take it back. What makes people think that we care if you choose so and so over something else. You know what you want so get it. Xoom isn't cutting for you then get something you wwill be happy with. No nneed to share with everyone.
I hope HTC makes a large Honeycomb tablet. I completely ignored them after the release of the HTC Flyer because I didn't appreciate the screen size, and it didn't run Honeycomb. However it was beautiful, and even had a unibody design. The Flyer was definitely a nicely designed tablet, and I do want to see what HTC does with a larger device.
They seem to be the only company that creates Android products (well, Motorola too) that focuses heavily on build quality and design. I assume if they made a larger Honeycomb tablet it would actually look up-to-par with an iPad. The silver Xoom somewhat does. This post is somewhat entirely irrelevant =/
the Xoom is supposed to be a media powerhouse. Which is why the screen is so big. It is a bit heavy, but it hasn't botherd me that much in this last week.
My girlfriend said if I return mine I can go to sunfest in florida next month. Sunfest is going to be awesome with lots of big names including sublime with Rome and ziggy marley. I am 1200 miles away from west palm beach where it will be held. I want to go so bad.
I am not returning my Xoom.
For anyone complaining about it I can see your reasons. I really can. But these were all issues I knew before spending 800$ on it. I knew these issues because I spent lots of Time thinking about it and evaluating my options before I payed almost 900 for it.
If you did not do this you are a fool for spending that amount of money without allowing your brain to process information beforehand.
Someone remind me how many apps were on ios when the iPhone launched please.
Already returned mine. It is a nice product its just not ready for the market. The price is ridiculous for what it offers.
Great, since you are both getting rid of your Xooms you can go to a different XDA forum now. Yay.
Is there any reason why this couldn't have gone into the other threads like this? I don't know why the 6 (yes, random number) people with the same nit-picky issues can't hold each other's hand through the return process in the same thread. It's not even buyer's remorse. It's not being able to put your finger on what you want upfront, and faulting the thing you bought for being the way it's clearly advertised.
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Is there any reason why this couldn't have gone into the other threads like this? I don't know why the 6 (yes, random number) people with the same nit-picky issues can't hold each other's hand through the return process in the same thread. It's not even buyer's remorse. It's not being able to put your finger on what you want upfront, and faulting the thing you bought for being the way it's clearly advertised.
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They have to let everyone know they are returning it.
HEY GUYS I DON'T LIKE THE XOOM, I AM RETURNING IT OKAY. I'LL COME BACK EVERY NOW AND THEN TO TELL YOU WHY I TOOK IT BACK.
I think these types of threads are stupid.
Anyone who would return their Xoom because someone else doesn't like is an idiot. Now if you are trying to get more information because maybe you don't understand how a the platform works that is different.
So if you want us to help you understand how Honeycomb and the Moto Xoom work that's great. On the other hand if you just don't like it no one really cares. The only person I need to like my Xoom is me and maybe my girlfriend.
Complaining about how people post their complaints won't do any good. They will post it regardless... you might as well ignore it and move on. If I actually had a Xoom and didn't like it, I would sure as hell post in a thread (maybe not a new one) exactly why I don't like it.
All that I'm afraid of is that the Honeycomb OS itself will never make it past the "nice-try" stage. I love the Xoom so far but it IS a risky business right now. I am convinced that other HC tablets will push the demand for apps and updated software but can "we" win the fight? The only time I would be sorry to have purchased the Xoom is when support for it stops and it becomes an orphan. Other than that - still have to break the news to my wifey
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All that I'm afraid of is that the Honeycomb OS itself will never make it past the "nice-try" stage. I love the Xoom so far but it IS a risky business right now. I am convinced that other HC tablets will push the demand for apps and updated software but can "we" win the fight? The only time I would be sorry to have purchased the Xoom is when support for it stops and it becomes an orphan. Other than that - still have to break the news to my wifey
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This is a google experience tablet with a brand new os and your worried about support. Lol
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Well, I was reminded of the early 90s when I tried to stick with OS/2 instead of giving in to Windows/DOS... Was a short period of resistance!!! LOL
I love my Xoom. No tablet will be able to compare to the Xoom this year..ipad 2 is just big ipod touch 4th gen.the galaxy tab 10.1 is even more of a joke.The only tablet that will come close to the Xoom is the Toshiba tablet.
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FWIW, I'm keeping mine.
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Complaining about how people post their complaints won't do any good. They will post it regardless... you might as well ignore it and move on. If I actually had a Xoom and didn't like it, I would sure as hell post in a thread (maybe not a new one) exactly why I don't like it.
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Ok. That information would be useful if:
- Your Xoom was suffering from a defect of design (iPhone 4 antenna) that is probably shared with other Xooms.
- If in your research of how the product was understood to work, you found something nobody else had, or were commenting about an issue to help bring about a consensus.
- If there was some way of showing whether or not you were a knee-jerk purchaser, or someone that bothered to take 2 minutes and Google the Xoom before you bought it. This point has been exhausted, but buying a first generation device with an OS whose official innards weren't released to the overwhelming majority of developers even two weeks ago isn't for everyone. It's your own responsibility to research a product. The Xoom is exactly what Motorola said it was, and every issue everyone has ever posted other than nuances to the software was a click away from before the thing was even released. If someone wants to make threads about how stupid they were for spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars on something before checking it out, I'll thumbs up those all day.
TLDR - Some of the Xoom's features were advertised as "released in the coming weeks" before the product's release. This is not news, or worth sharing as a reason for your return to the store.
Edit: Just thought of something. The video playback is annoying and was kind of a surprise. I'll totally give you that one. But with some playing around and effort I'm really satisfied with the quality.
returning it for ipad 2 .
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/01/1...ision/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
OMG........
I really doubt that.
That's only a speculation...
They were merged with Ericsson and we all know how that went so I really doubt those info's were actually came from Sony...
They failed to achieve few Q planas...We could expect rumors and info's like that..
Im quite sure no one has enough money to be able to Buy Sony Mobile and NOT Fall apart afterwards
I think thats not true. At the end they would have nothing to do.
dkionline said:
I think thats not true. At the end they would have nothing to do.
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I was actually thinking if they sell everything what they have, what's left for them? They'll only be selling PS4s and one day people will start to get tired of it or Xbox will start doing good then they'll be on the same page. I'm happy on one thing which they didn't bring a new device to market this CES, and I hope they'll at least try competing their phablet market with Note 4 with a new ultra with good multitasking. There's this small app which I've installed on my tablet (I think its called media viewer small app), I hope they'll do better job than that. Hope to see some good news on Sony.
http://www.sonyrumors.net/2015/01/17/whats-really-happening-sonys-mobile-division/
That's great