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Ive decided to keep my fascinate even though have an available upgrade. Thanks to our excellent dev community here, ive never been happier w/ what's floating around in my pocket. I use it for everything, and its been easy to root and flash. I think im gonna wait for the second wave of the next gen phones.
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Good Choice you've made there.
Just think there will be plenty of more phones soon that would be much better than Thunderbolt =D
Yeah it's not really worth an upgrade IMO until LTE is widespread and dual core phones are established.
The current generation of 2.2 ROMs are shockingly fast, stable, and battery thrifty.
I'll still give any vzw rep a hard time for the meagre support this phone had received, but secretly I am really pleased with the latest superclean. Thank goodness there was no exodus before the EB01 roms were so thoroughly tweaked.
It's thinner (ok slightly) than a thunderbolt and fully unlocked. I love that I can save it from the brink of brick with Odin. It'd be nice to have dual cameras or LTE but I have no justification for bailing before Q3 or Q4. I want a higher resolution screen and perhaps HDMI out.
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The current generation of 2.2 ROMs are shockingly fast, stable, and battery thrifty.
I'll still give any vzw rep a hard time for the meagre support this phone had received, but secretly I am really pleased with the latest superclean. Thank goodness there was no exodus before the EB01 roms were so thoroughly tweaked.
It's thinner (ok slightly) than a thunderbolt and fully unlocked. I love that I can save it from the brink of brick with Odin. It'd be nice to have dual cameras or LTE but I have no justification for bailing before Q3 or Q4. I want a higher resolution screen and perhaps HDMI out.
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I totally agree. The Tbolt isn't a bad phone, but I think having the "latest thing" has hyped it a bit more than its worth, especially with 4G not being everywhere. I checked it out at a Vzw store, and I love the size of my Fascinate compared to the tbolt. It fits a pocket a lot better, its just so small and thin. Screen is better too.
Overall though, I think waiting for more competition is a solid choice, but of course I don't blame anyone for wanting the newest phone out there, especially if they have 4G in their area.
Thinking about waiting for the next big thing makes me think about all the new phones coming out for T-Mobile. Too bad they'll be internet-less smartphones later on....
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There is no reason for upgrading f right now if you have a current Gen top tier phone. It is going to be a while before developers start making apps for dual core phones or apps that require a lot of processing power.
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I had an original Droid before the Fascinate. A lot of good qualities but the weight drove me nuts. Newer phones like the thunderbolt weigh quite a bit more and you feel it. With the ROMs we have now, it's hard to justify an upgrade.
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I think I'll keep my fascinate for a while, but the new droid incredible S/2 is tempting.
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Went and played with a tbolt for a while, I wasn't the least bit impressed. Defi not enough to pay 300 out the door. As frustrated as I am with Samsung, our Dev community is awesome. Im pretty sure I was running adrynalynes roms on my pos omnia.
Thank you devs foe making the decision for me not to jump ship. Btw, I'm in San Diego and have 4g almost everywhere I am.
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Yeah I had an upgrade too...... I used it tho...... On another fascinate for my wifes line lol. She was deadset on an iphone until she had my droid1 now she prefers android! Im gonna go celebrate by devouring an apple now!
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All of our devs are jumping ship to the thunderbolt. Though they say they wont abandon us, I'm sure development will slow because they will be playing with their fancy new phones. I would have upgraded if I could.
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dev for fascinate are doing all they can for our phone - if you have updated your phone with the current ROMs and kernels your phone should be running GREAT
we need Samsung to download the source code for the fascinate
when that happens we will see new updates for the fascinate - take a look at the i9000 threads in xda - our fascinate phone is not DEAD
Not concerned at all. Our devs are the **** by the way!
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Not concerned at all. Our devs are the **** by the way!
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+1 Too bad Sammy and Verizon don't have the devs we have!
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There is no reason for upgrading f right now if you have a current Gen top tier phone. It is going to be a while before developers start making apps for dual core phones or apps that require a lot of processing power.
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So you're saying it's not worth a couple hundred bucks to be able to get a slightly higher Quad score?
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So you're saying it's not worth a couple hundred bucks to be able to get a slightly higher Quad score?
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I said no such thing; I'm all about dropping a couple of hundreds for a few points.
The only reason I got an Atrix for a week was to see that amazing guadrant score.
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Well i usually jump on new phones had the iphone 3g,iphone 3gs,droid eris,moto droid,droid x and now my fascinate but nothen coming out cept the galaxy s2 looks temping imo. The fascinate is just as good if not better because of the speed size and screen.
I have my ne2 upgrade..but I am perfectly happy with my fascinate with all the great work from our devs its become an amazing phone.
Besides I don't consider the T-bolt an upgrade at all. More like sideways instead of up. Will wait till something like the sgs 2 or a dual core htc
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T bolt really is a very minor upgrade. It just doesn't seem worth burning an upgrade for when I already have a fascinate. I also fail to understand the iphone like levels of hype and fanboy-ism surrounding it.
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I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.
Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything
Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster
Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!
Anyone know what new phones are coming for sprintand if there worth getting rid of my evo for?
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There will be a new Samsung soon and also a couple new Blackberries. Havnt heard anything on SGII at all yet but I would think that will be pretty soon too.
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Anything new about the Nexus Prime?
August 29th Samsung gs2 being announced for most if not all major carriers hopefully including sprint.
the new evo design aka kingdom its everything the 3d is w/o 3d
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the new evo design aka kingdom its everything the 3d is w/o 3d
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Nice. That 3D stuff isn't for everyone.
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Ewww Samsung. Where's HTC? Kingdom only phone in near future?
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I believe Sprint will be getting the Blackberry Bold Touch, can't wait to upgrade!
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the new evo design aka kingdom its everything the 3d is w/o 3d
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Not quite...my understanding is that it's only a single core processor. I'd rather have the 3D feature and not use it if I have to give dual core up.
OP, the only phone we know is coming soon that's in the same class as the new generation of phones is the Samsung Galaxy S II. HTC and Moto have both released top-end phones on Sprint in the last few months. My guess is that after the SGSII, the next high end phones we see on Sprint will be the next Nexus and other phones designed for ICS.
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Anyone know what new phones are coming for sprintand if there worth getting rid of my evo for?
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Have you considered the Photon?
Photon has dual core..1gb ram!! What's not to like about that phone?
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Blackberry Bold Touch and Blackerry Torch Touch on 8/21, Samsung Galaxy S II in the next month or so, the Nexus Prime within 3 months or so.
the conquer is lame, and if youre gonna get a kingdom, you might as well get a 3d...
photon and 3d are already out, and are most certainly superior in specifications to the evo.
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Photon has dual core..1gb ram!! What's not to like about that phone?
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For me, the screen.
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For me, the screen.
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And it only uses the 1gb when it is in the computer dock. Otherwise it runs on 512mb.
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And it only uses the 1gb when it is in the computer dock. Otherwise it runs on 512mb.
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Hrm I didn't know that. The screen was enough for me not to consider but this definitely puts the last nail in the coffin.
I wonder if that's a power saving "feature"...
Also a new LG coming out.
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August 29th Samsung gs2 being announced for most if not all major carriers hopefully including sprint.
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Is this an annoucement date or when the phone is actually going to be available?
I had planned on waiting a couple months to see what comes out but I left my EVO in a golf cart this past weekend and before I got back to the course the cart kid had rinsed out the cart and got a little water on it. It wasn't even a lot of water but the phone is acting crazy now and keeps hopping in and out of car mode and goes straight to speakerphone when I answer a call. Not sure if I can put up with it like it is and I not going to spend the $100 deductible to replace.
I'm hoping my 30 day trial will get me a look at the SGS2. If not, kinda leaning towards the photon but need to spend some time with it in store. Was a little underwhelmed by the 3D.
i have seen the Photon but i have not really considered it.
I really like HTC and want to stick with it.
How does the Motorola and Samsung stack up with HTC?
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And it only uses the 1gb when it is in the computer dock. Otherwise it runs on 512mb.
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this statement is false..i personally went to sprint to pay my phone bill today and while i was there i gave the photon a test drive..there is absolutly no truth about the ram operating @512 off the dock. with that being said..the photon is a very nice phone speed wise..i imagine battery life is better cuz of dual core..i did not care for the screen or the phone as a whole...HTC are hard to compete with and i will continue to be a customer.
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So HTC won't be releasing any new phones any time soon?
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So for a while now I've been waiting for a new nexus to come out because my contract is up in December. However its looking more and more that the rumors are true that it will be made by LG and be based off of their flagship optimus g. The specs for the optimus g are beasty but I'm not sure LG can make a high quality phone. How do you guys feel about an lg nexus and do you think you'll buy one?
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I will definitely buy it if its an lg nexus! They always make great hardware but their software is atrocious, but being a nexus that point is moot
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Allegedly, there's gonna be a whole line of 5 nexuses (nexii?), with one by samsung, a minor update to the gnex (1.5 ghz a9 dual core). Another would be the lg optimus g nexus (or nexus g) which as you mentioned would be quad core s4 768p, 2gb ram. Another would be the nexus 5 by htc with 1080p, quad core s4, 2gb ram. The new thing about these is that they will have a customization center where you will have the choice of different themes, some of them being manufacturer themes. So an HTC nexus could run sense.
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Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Also, does anyone think Sprint will have first crack at any of these Nexii if/when they come out? I want to get a new phone around november, not next year -__-
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Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Not yet... at least not in america. They are said to be coming here around halloween (at least as of the last report I saw). It is coming to att and sprint.
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Also, does anyone think Sprint will have first crack at any of these Nexii if/when they come out? I want to get a new phone around november, not next year -__-
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Not sure. It looks like sprint and google are getting closer. Although, it looks like tmo is definitely getting it soon since they cancelled the one x + which means there's something better coming (since its probably not bug related because its being released on other carriers worldwide). That doesn't mean sprint can't be soon though. It does surprise me that lg made their optimus g so close too the nexus release. Idk if the nexii would have a coordinated launch either where each are released together worldwide. They may be staggered over the next few months or so.
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Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Phone arena has a review of the at&t one and its got an 8mp camera instead of 13 and gorilla glass 2 on the front and back, all the main specs are the same
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Phone arena has a review of the at&t one and its got an 8mp camera instead of 13 and gorilla glass 2 on the front and back, all the main specs are the same
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The 13mp camera didn't get good reviews.. Nokia Lumia 920, IPhone 5 take the crown
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I saw a link to an article on Facebook and they compared the camera on the iPhone 5 to the one on the 4s and a high end camera. Apparently, the iPhone 5 camera doesn't play well with direct light sources
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out in korea. but it's a mixed reception. a very good phone by lg's standard but the software's still a bit of a downside.
hardware benchmarking beats all the android competition out so far.
but must add, american models always have some kinda variance to the original so they might change a few things. seeing that an lg nexus is coming out at around the same time, seems quite likely too.
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Will be pretty happy if it comes with the quad core soc Qualcomm showed at ces...plus that 4.7" 1080p screen....
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Will be pretty happy if it comes with the quad core soc Qualcomm showed at ces...plus that 4.7" 1080p screen....
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I would be happy if it came out with a 4.7" screen, because then I wouldn't feel a need to downgrade from my 5" DNA. On the other hand, an aluminum phone with specs superior to the DNA may just force me to switch carriers again. :?
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Will be pretty happy if it comes with the quad core soc Qualcomm showed at ces...plus that 4.7" 1080p screen....
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It's launching tommorow!?
Do you have a source?
I would love to know if it shows up on Verizon or not. (Current contract ends next month, was waiting it out to see if this phone releases or to just get the DNA)
i think we wont be hearing anything about a verizon variant, so it wont matter
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It's launching tommorow!?
Do you have a source?
I would love to know if it shows up on Verizon or not. (Current contract ends next month, was waiting it out to see if this phone releases or to just get the DNA)
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Well HTC has an event tomorrow and they have been dropping hints for the m7(one) all week.
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My thought and comment/question is, why the hell is this in the Droid DNA section? I'm failing to see how it relates.
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My thought and comment/question is, why the hell is this in the Droid DNA section? I'm failing to see how it relates.
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It's kind of standard in forums where a large number of users are interested in switching to a device. It's off topic, but I see it a lot. Like in the Rezound section there's a thread for people discussing the DNA with fellow rezound users, there was probably a rezound thread in the thunderbolt section last year, etc.
It will worth if they put on the new Qualcomm cpu...as for design htc is really great on design for phones....but personally love black & red combination. That's why I own sensation xe and rezound except DNA...as for build quality I am sure would be great...if the m7 aka one will be same as in render photos...I think that will be very beautiful but not as DNA...
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well if this phone has a 4.7 inch screen I see no reason I would downgrade to it but at 5 inches, I may just have to dumb my DNA, I am on att so Verizon not getting is is not a issue for me.
The 4.7" screen will mean higher ppi....and that might be their only point against other OEMs.....that's sum trick from HTC "oh let's pull them to the 5" barria then run back and make a phone smaller for every day use" ...to be sincere 5" should have been a no go area for smartphones ....phablet and 5" is brtter
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The 4.7" screen will mean higher ppi....and that might be their only point against other OEMs.....that's sum trick from HTC "oh let's pull them to the 5" barria then run back and make a phone smaller for every day use" ...to be sincere 5" should have been a no go area for smartphones ....phablet and 5" is brtter
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I really have no clue what you were trying to say.
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Better build quality, better materials, higher ppi, and same locked bootloader. Hmm. Same tempting hardware but there's a gut feeling not to get another HTC.
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Whatever. Imagine these phones to be like the great wrestling tag team of Legion of Doom. The DNA is Animal and the M7 is Hawk. These devices should dominate of thier carriers. The DNA will thrive on the Verizon network and the M7 will be good for Sprint. Eventually, the M7 will come to Verizon but I'm not ready to jump to get it. Its just another phone and in my mind I have the best on the market.
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HTC M7 review with sense 5 but different language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqEB-W_SV-A
No Verizon version
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No Verizon version
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Yup , just like most of us figured. If and when we see it, it will most likely be a DNA+ or something.
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i think we wont be hearing anything about a verizon variant, so it wont matter
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Yep unless its coming to Verizon makes no difference to me at this time. I doubt it will and even if it does it will take months.
i can care less about the m7 honestly. im happy with my dna, but what id really love to see a sense 5.0 rom or ota for the dna
The design is sexy. I'm loving the DNA but I don't mind HTC starting to push design in that direction at all.
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Not enough of a hardware upgrade to make me hypothetically regret my DNA purchase (since it isn't available on VZW), but hopefully some of those UI changes will percolate over to the DNA (perhaps contractually already in the pipeline, and the reason for the no-thanks from VZW?). While it's a crazy pain in the ass to get to the local photo storage (why not have a drop down menu for the cloud options?!?!), the Zoe gallery previews from the Youtube video look really great - very Harry Potter-esque, if you will. Obviously, the exclusive hardware things like the speakers and OIS camera are nice, but the DNA takes acceptable photos, and nothing, not a Nokia or HTC, is ever going to take photos that replace my Sony NEX-5N.
Hopefully, the Zoe enhancements aren't hardware dependent, but otherwise, would love to see a quick upgrade for the DNA to Sense 5.