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Is this possible? (T-Mo related)

I have a G1. My wife has a T-Mo BB Pearl.
We want to buy the nexus one outright and put her sim in it.
Can I call and have them move her line to my plan and switch me to the even more plus (unlimited).
Seems like a way to avoid the individual plan only TMo is doing. I mean, they would never even know she had the N1 right?

You can just put the sim in and it should work out of the box with whatever plan she had (or is being switched to). They generally don't care what plan she's on, but the data plan may be device specific. I don't think there's a different rate for the android internet vs BB internet.

that should work but im not 100%...

well, the tricky part is that she used to do PR for T-Mo and for the past 3 years we have had a completely free, unlimited BB. Seriously, it has unlimited data/voice/anything.
I was concerned that she may lose this when putting her sim in the Nexus, but like you guys said... seems like T Mo nor the sim card would know the wiser.
Really just want to get her into android and have a nexus in my house.

s15274n said:
I have a G1. My wife has a T-Mo BB Pearl.
We want to buy the nexus one outright and put her sim in it.
Can I call and have them move her line to my plan and switch me to the even more plus (unlimited).
Seems like a way to avoid the individual plan only TMo is doing. I mean, they would never even know she had the N1 right?
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I work for T-mobile so I can clarify this pretty easily.
You mentioned corperate discount for the BB plan, unfortunately if you get an N1 you'll lose that. The problem lies in that the BB data and Android data are defined as two different types of data on tmobile, and while it may work for a little while you'd still have some problems. (my boss has to do this on occasion when switching between his g1/cliq/mytouch and his unlocked bb storm)
You'd have no problem changing the plan over, but if you wanted to keep it free, you may have some issues. (You might be able to convince them to give you the android plan free, since it was a gifted bb thing?)
Since it's on the even more plus, just go in on the last day of your close date (bill is due one day, close date is generally a couple days later, check with #225# and 'due by' is the date you need to go in, before you pay your bill) Have them change the plan then and you'll only have to pay next month's bill including the new data plan, and your services would take effect the next day with all the new stuff.
if you have additional q's feel free to pop me an email at jareduarunorudu[at]gmail.com (I may not see the thread)

Hmm, did not realize there was a difference in BB data and android data.
That could severely limit what I am trying to do as I do not want to do anything to lose her "free" phone and its service.
So, you are saying the Nexus could not get data from the sim card, because her sim card has BB data plan on it, right?

s15274n said:
Hmm, did not realize there was a difference in BB data and android data.
That could severely limit what I am trying to do as I do not want to do anything to lose her "free" phone and its service.
So, you are saying the Nexus could not get data from the sim card, because her sim card has BB data plan on it, right?
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It's a weird plan thing =\ BB's always been separate though, even before all the new smartphones came out because of their enterprise push email service.. it was always listed differently on accounts lol. Now it's listed as total internet for normal smartphones, BB data and then android data's separate =P
The first thing I'd say try would be to simply take her sim out, put it in your g1, and see how far you get. if it works, it should work the same way with the N1... Worst case scenario is you get the n1, it works for 3-4 weeks then quits working, you call customer care and yell at them until they give you free android data heh.
Gotta love GSM.

JareduPS said:
It's a weird plan thing =\ BB's always been separate though, even before all the new smartphones came out because of their enterprise push email service.. it was always listed differently on accounts lol. Now it's listed as total internet for normal smartphones, BB data and then android data's separate =P
The first thing I'd say try would be to simply take her sim out, put it in your g1, and see how far you get. if it works, it should work the same way with the N1... Worst case scenario is you get the n1, it works for 3-4 weeks then quits working, you call customer care and yell at them until they give you free android data heh.
Gotta love GSM.
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you make this sound like this isnt your first run in with having to give someone free android data?
ive still got my 5.99 internet (works with N1) i have little faith in it lasting in the long run but are you saying that if i raise my voice enough they will upgrade me for no cost? lol

I threw her sim card in my g1 and it worked perfectly.
Ordered the nexus last night.
Thanks for all of the help.

JHaste said:
you make this sound like this isnt your first run in with having to give someone free android data?
ive still got my 5.99 internet (works with N1) i have little faith in it lasting in the long run but are you saying that if i raise my voice enough they will upgrade me for no cost? lol
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Good to hear it worked!
Haha no, it's not my first time. Depending on how you yell, I've seen people given free $300 phones just to stay, but it depends on how you do it, who you get, if they're foreign and a few other things lol.
Due to a messup by a rep I had one customer keep coming back and doing the same thing 3 months in a row for free unlimited texting on their family account on flexpay haha.
since it did work I'd say that if it stops working say it's been working fine for ages and the plan is grandfathered, make it free because it was working perfectly fine before and it's not your fault that the system defines it as two different things when it's still just data
Good luck! hope all goes well
Sorry for the late reply, I had never seen the notification thing on XDA before lol. (still relatively new to posting a bunch)

Use unlocked Aria without data plan?

If I buy an HTC Aria and unlock it, would I be able to use my existing GSM card (on AT&T "Blue" network (older GSM)) to make phone calls and connect via wifi without upgrading my plan or buying data plan? I don't need 3G support but would welcome a new phone that would allow me to jump on wifi and get on the web now and then.
Possible?
I would think other folks would be interested in this same scenario and I tried searching, but couldn't find anything.
Thanks

I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't be able to do that. I would think that any phone that obeys GSM standards that you stick a SIM in, should make calls on the network provided you have an active account. You don't need a data plan in order to do anything*, as I'm sure you know; however, that does mean you need to ensure you turn mobile networking off so you don't accidentally end up racking charges up for network access.
*YMMV, this has worked for me with different phones in the past.

because ATT scans the system for imei numbers occasionally you will ahve a data plan forcefully added at some point. If you call att and have a data block applied to your line you can supposedly lessen your chance of getting caught but its no guaruntee.
i find this business practice to be questionable at best but there is no sure fire way around it. They'll even add the plan to ouut of network phones that can't use their 3g band like the t-mobile version of N1.
Even if you call and convince them to remove you from the plan (an arduous process from what i understand) they'll add you back on in the next sweep.

i know a problem with this that occured on the iPhone was the EDGE network that the phone would randomly communicate with, idk how our phones work exactly with the whole edge/3g thing but its something that was a known issue with iphones

dasspunk said:
If I buy an HTC Aria and unlock it, would I be able to use my existing GSM card (on AT&T "Blue" network (older GSM)) to make phone calls and connect via wifi without upgrading my plan or buying data plan? I don't need 3G support but would welcome a new phone that would allow me to jump on wifi and get on the web now and then.
Possible?
I would think other folks would be interested in this same scenario and I tried searching, but couldn't find anything.
Thanks
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You will be fine. When you activate the phone it asks if you have a data plan and gives you a option to say you don't have a data plan and to use WiFi only. And if your still worried you can download a HTC widget that turns off 3g completely. I have the 2gb data plan and I still disable 3g and WiFi unless I'm using it. So ya go get on because its a really great phone. Ps: about what another chap said about the iPhone using data with out his consent. Don't worry this is Android You have control over everything. One of the reasons we love android so much.
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Thanks everyone for the info. I'll be giving this a go and will update this thread with the results.
Now I just have to make a final decision between the Aria and the Nexus One... I like the smaller size of the Aria but it seems like the Nexus is a better phone, and will have less AT&T issues... If anyone has a strong opinion one way or the other, feel free to share.
Thanks again!

Aria or Nexus One
My wife and son both have Nexus One's. I have the Aria and think it is great. It was also a money issue. The Nexus One was $500 more. But I am not disappointed with my decision.
I have the Aria rooted and removed AT&T'S stuff. Put on Google Voice, Gizmo5, and Sippdroid and now have a VOIP phone. It works great and no problems with dropped calls yet.

ryan92084 said:
because ATT scans the system for imei numbers occasionally you will ahve a data plan forcefully added at some point. If you call att and have a data block applied to your line you can supposedly lessen your chance of getting caught but its no guaruntee.
i find this business practice to be questionable at best but there is no sure fire way around it. They'll even add the plan to ouut of network phones that can't use their 3g band like the t-mobile version of N1.
Even if you call and convince them to remove you from the plan (an arduous process from what i understand) they'll add you back on in the next sweep.
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If that was true, ATT wouldn't allow me to still have the unlimited $15/mo data plan from my original RAZR on every smartphone I've owned since getting rid of the RAZR. They still list me as a RAZR owner even though I've gone through 6 smartphones (3 were iPhones, Moto Q9C, Verizon Imagio Worldphone, Moto Backflip) now over the last two years and I still only pay $15/mo for unlimited internet.

bogatyr said:
If that was true, ATT wouldn't allow me to still have the unlimited $15/mo data plan from my original RAZR on every smartphone I've owned since getting rid of the RAZR. They still list me as a RAZR owner even though I've gone through 6 smartphones (3 were iPhones, Moto Q9C, Verizon Imagio Worldphone, Moto Backflip) now over the last two years and I still only pay $15/mo for unlimited internet.
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yeah, and ive been using an unlocked blackberry storm on att for quite some time and used a blackjack and htc touch pro before that. they would have caught me a while ago if that was true.

its a newer policy that started late last year. for every person i've heard of still getting away with it there are dozens that haven't. there have even been people that switched from their smartphone w/o data to a dumbphone and then back to their original smartphone and have been nabbed by the scan. If you had a smartphone with no data before the policy change there is likely the feature "Smartphone Exclusion" on that line exempting you from the data plan (unless they notice that you switch phones that is).
they only scan for certain model's imei numbers( but good luck finding the list of which they scan for). For a while n1 users were getting away with it but have are now being nailed quite quickly.
Its right in the contract (that you sign automatically just by not canceling your service) that if they notice you using whatever they deem a "smartphone" they'll smack you with a data plan. The customer service reps are supposedly under the threat of suspension/firing if they remove the data plan as long as your sim is in said smartphone. People who have gotten them to remove the plan by switching phones got nabbed faster if they switched back.
I'm not here defending their position, as i find the whole situation to be a shadey money grab, just telling the OP how it is.
my only real tip is to call and have a data block applied to your line before ever putting a sim in your aria. The only fool proof way to avaoid data on a smartphone is to jump to t-mobile's no ctract plan unforutunately

I gotta agree here and tell you that the scanning process is real.
The key is that they have to care to put your IMEI number in their database (or rather, a range of IMEI's that includes your phone). When your IMEI comes up in one of their scans, it's done.
I had a Rogers Magic on my account for 5-6 months, never had a problem. When the Nexus One became available for AT&T, I immediately gave the magic to my mom and got myself an N1.
For a while I had no issue, must have been 3 months on the cheapy data plan. Then, sometime last month (I think) my phone was moved to the smartphone plan. Before I called AT&T, I checked the forums and sure enough, everyone with an AT&T N1 was being switched to the smartphone plan forcefully.
So, it's a matter of chance really. If you have a phone that shouldn't be on their network and is unlikely anyone would pay the expense and use it on their network, well... there's a chance they won't have your IMEI in their database. However, if it's one of their phones and it's a smartphone, you have little choice.
Fortunately though, they now have a better "tiered" data structure that can ultimately be cheaper... but it still sucks.

Unlock Code
I finally got the phone but AT&T will definitely NOT unlock the Aria. Support said it's probably because it's an exclusive phone. They were kind enough to mention that it "may be possible" to get a code somewhere else
Can anyone recommend a reputable unlocker? I tried one on Ebay already but they were unable to find a code for the Aria. They offered to try another server for an additional $5 but I figured I'd go another route. They refunded the money though...
Thanks in advance for any help.

Returning the Aria
So after spending most of the day trying to sort this out, here's the deal. The phone I received from Amazon (and paid full price without a phone plan) can/will NOT be unlocked by AT&T or HTC or the unlockers on ebay.
AT&T couldn't tell me which phones might have this problem. The ONLY solution to be sure is to not buy anything from AT&T... which is what I plan on doing from here on out.
Too bad really... it's a nice little phone.

The scanning is real but i have been using a smartphone on my regular account for a few years now and didnt get caught yet. Seems people get caught easily when their account becomes delinquent. I let my mom use my old smart phone because hers were damaged and within 24 hours i received and email and a text message was sent to the phone saying that they placed the $15 200MB dataplan on her account.
I had to call them up and give them the IMEI number for her old phone in order for them to take it off which they didnt want to do right away because the account was past due, but was done eventually. But if you have the medianet bundle and they put the data plan on it removes the medianet bundle from your phone which they cannot add back on because the option no longer exists. I fought tooth and nail for them to put it back on but got nowhere.
I still have my Medianet bundle 5MB + 1500 texts for $15 a month that u use on my Aria and i dont even use the data part because i have WIFI at home, WIFI at work and Optimum Online WIFI most places outside so since the phone automatically switches to a WIFI signal when its in range its useless to pay for data i will not use.
What i have noticed and users have to be careful about is that if you send or receive a MMS while out of WIFI range the phone will not automatically disconnect from the 3G data until your back in range of a connectible WIFI sourcel. During this time if its syncing with your Mail, facebook, news, feeds, and other data things you can easily rack up 20MB

its possible. Ive done it on an old ATT blue account from 6+ years ago. The trick is just getting them to unlock it for you by telling them you need to use it overseas. This needs to be done over 611 or other customer service number. They will need the IMEI number and will either email you unlock information after a few days or give it to you immediately. My ATT blue account blocked the customer service from knowing which phone I was currently using. They THOUGHT I was using my first phone that I signed with(nokia 3300).
Also note that ATT Blue accounts for the most part cannot be touched (feature wise). Ive called them multiple times and asked for a data plan and other features but they were never able to do it.
This is my experience, it may or may not work for you. Note that I have a FAN account, but that shouldnt matter.

flipf0nt said:
its possible. Ive done it on an old ATT blue account from 6+ years ago. The trick is just getting them to unlock it for you by telling them you need to use it overseas. This needs to be done over 611 or other customer service number.
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So the question is where/how did you get your phone? Has anyone bought a phone from Amazon that could be unlocked? I seem to be missing something.
If I could have just gotten the Aria unlocked, it'd work just as I wanted.
Thanks

dasspunk said:
So the question is where/how did you get your phone? Has anyone bought a phone from Amazon that could be unlocked? I seem to be missing something.
If I could have just gotten the Aria unlocked, it'd work just as I wanted.
Thanks
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I dont know what dasspunk is talking about, there are people with the Aria unlocked on T-mobile!

dynamics_blue said:
I dont know what dasspunk is talking about, there are people with the Aria unlocked on T-mobile!
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Exactly my point... some Arias can be unlocked and some can't. I bought mine from Amazon full price/no contract; it can't be unlocked. Which ones can?
I'll ask again... where/how did you get your Aria?

my friend got the Aria on amazon and unlocked it. so maybe you didnt go to the right place to Unlock it.

dynamics_blue said:
my friend got the Aria on amazon and unlocked it. so maybe you didnt go to the right place to Unlock it.
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Did he buy it outright ($330) or via a plan/upgrade ($0)?

Proper Activation Sequence - Keeping Unlimited

Just want to make sure I'm getting this right. I'm sure I'm not the only 1, so hopefully any input here will be helpful to others as well.
So I sold my Galaxy Note 2, which means I'm back to the OG Droid between now and whenever the Note 3 arrives (other threads are popping up about shipping tomorrow). I just want to confirm my steps with you smart people so I don't screw anything up, and do my part in keeping unlimited data. Did this all on Verizon's website and was never prompted to choose a different data plan. So I'm passed that step, want to ensure I activate properly and don't mess anything else going forward.
The Note 3 is coming as a transferred upgrade on my 3rd line (dumb phone), from my main line (unlimited data). I will receive the phone, activate on my 3rd line. Wait until it updates on Verizon's website that the Note 3 is on my 3rd line. Then swap the SIM attached to my main line, into the Note 3. Wait for that to update on VzW website. Then change my 3rd line back to my dumb phone and activate said dumb phone to get back to basic $10 a month plan. If it forces me in to a data plan, call VzW at that point to have data removed from dumb phone line (this was discussed over at AndroidCentral about what to do if it forces a data plan on your basic line).
In the mean time; is it ok to put my OG Droid on my main line? Since I'll be shipping out my Note 2 tomorrow, will this have any affect on the order I do things above? Sorry for being such a Nervous Nelly, it's obviously important to many of us on here to keep unlimited and I just want to be sure I'm not screwing anything up.
Thanks for any input guys! And we're in the home-stretch!!

gerg004 said:
Just want to make sure I'm getting this right. I'm sure I'm not the only 1, so hopefully any input here will be helpful to others as well.
So I sold my Galaxy Note 2, which means I'm back to the OG Droid between now and whenever the Note 3 arrives (other threads are popping up about shipping tomorrow). I just want to confirm my steps with you smart people so I don't screw anything up, and do my part in keeping unlimited data. Did this all on Verizon's website and was never prompted to choose a different data plan. So I'm passed that step, want to ensure I activate properly and don't mess anything else going forward.
The Note 3 is coming as a transferred upgrade on my 3rd line (dumb phone), from my main line (unlimited data). I will receive the phone, activate on my 3rd line. Wait until it updates on Verizon's website that the Note 3 is on my 3rd line. Then swap the SIM attached to my main line, into the Note 3. Wait for that to update on VzW website. Then change my 3rd line back to my dumb phone and activate said dumb phone to get back to basic $10 a month plan. If it forces me in to a data plan, call VzW at that point to have data removed from dumb phone line (this was discussed over at AndroidCentral about what to do if it forces a data plan on your basic line).
In the mean time; is it ok to put my OG Droid on my main line? Since I'll be shipping out my Note 2 tomorrow, will this have any affect on the order I do things above? Sorry for being such a Nervous Nelly, it's obviously important to many of us on here to keep unlimited and I just want to be sure I'm not screwing anything up.
Thanks for any input guys! And we're in the home-stretch!!
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Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.

geoff5093 said:
Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.
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Ok that makes sense, thank you. Is a SIM card included with the device? I've never ordered from Verizon, always bought in store. I'd like to be able to activate it when I receive it, right to that 3rd line without having to take it to a store. So I can let the system update, then just swap SIMs a 2nd time like you're saying.

geoff5093 said:
Personally I would not switch to a 3G phone and then back to a 4G phone. You currently have the Note 2 so it's super simple, just switch the SIM card from the Note 2 to Note 3. If you go to the OG Droid you'll have to reactivate the new SIM and I heard that's where issues start to come up, at least in this case. It should be in on 10/10.
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Actually, there is absolutely no danger of losing unlimited when switching between 3G and 4G phones. You can do it via web form or over the phone, just so long as you have the 3G phone's ESN and the 4G phone's ESN as well as the SIM number. Don't ask me why I did this, but I decided to use a Palm Treo 755p for a week to prove something to myself, and I was able to activate it, use it for as long as I wanted, and then go back to my Galaxy Nexus without losing unlimited.
So if you want to use your OG Droid, go ahead. There's no issue, as long as you don't lose your SIM card.

gerg004 said:
Ok that makes sense, thank you. Is a SIM card included with the device? I've never ordered from Verizon, always bought in store. I'd like to be able to activate it when I receive it, right to that 3rd line without having to take it to a store. So I can let the system update, then just swap SIMs a 2nd time like you're saying.
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When ordering you can choose a new sim card or not. I did not opt for a new one as i have no need since its a simple swap
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keynith said:
When ordering you can choose a new sim card or not. I did not opt for a new one as i have no need since its a simple swap
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Hmmm yes I see that now and it appears I did not chose to have 1. Even more of an issue for me is its showing my main number as the number I'm upgrading. Except I transfered that upgrade to my 3rd line. Did Verizon figure me out?
This is crazy. I know when I did the upgrade I transferred to my 3rd line and it showed that number as the line I'm upgrading. But now, on the confirmation of pre order its showing my main number...This could have a bad ending.
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gerg004 said:
Hmmm yes I see that now and it appears I did not chose to have 1. Even more of an issue for me is its showing my main number as the number I'm upgrading. Except I transfered that upgrade to my 3rd line. Did Verizon figure me out?
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I have the same issue, order shows the unlimited line as the upgrade... Last time I did this it showed the number I had transferred the unlimited upgrade to. I have contacted Verizon, their advice was to call when I get the new phone and let them do all the swapping, and that way I can make sure not to do anything to mess up the unlimited data line. The CSRs will actually help you through the process... and I was told they have NOT changed any policy that would keep you from being able to do this. So my advice, call when you get the phone, they do this all the time. Better safe than sorry.

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I have the same issue, order shows the unlimited line as the upgrade... Last time I did this it showed the number I had transferred the unlimited upgrade to. I have contacted Verizon, their advice was to call when I get the new phone and let them do all the swapping, and that way I can make sure not to do anything to mess up the unlimited data line. The CSRs will actually help you through the process... and I was told they have NOT changed any policy that would keep you from being able to do this. So my advice, call when you get the phone, they do this all the time. Better safe than sorry.
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Thanks for the advice. I haven't had a min to call yet but I think I will just to get on record of it. I'm going to have to head into a store anyway since I didn't request a SIM and I don't h a very 1 for that line...
Hopefully this gets all straightened out as it seems more than a fluke on my account. Others are seeing it too, I wonder what is really going on.
Edit: Just got off the phone with a CSR myself, to find out whats going on. He ASSURED me, that the phone is coming attached to my 3rd line. Also that a SIM is included and when I activate the phone with said SIM, it will show up on my 3rd line. The reason its showing my main number is because that's the main number on the account. He assured me more than once that this phone will in no way affect my main line or the data plan, and that once activated will go right onto my additional line. Hope that calms some nerves- it did mine, although we won't know anything until we actually go through the process ourselves.
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What to expect on Verizon?

I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.

I don't think we'll know until someone tries. As you had said, Verizon wouldn't issue SIMs or activate the N6 for the longest time. They have a terrible track record of allowing devices they don't sell on to their network. I'm on Verizon, and will probably go to Fi when it arrives. Cheaper that way anyhow.

mikexda said:
I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I am in the same situation as you, never having had an unlocked phone and on Verizon. Have a Note 4 now and hope I can just walk in and get a SIM from them without problems, don't want to be put in the position of cutting down a micro-sim to a nano-sim size. Seen Youtube vids and yes it looks easy, but if someone can mess it up it is me. Hope they don't give us a hard time.

there was a small period of time where the XPE was having activation issues for new SIMs but existing SIMs worked fine. i anticipate this will remain the same. existing SIMs will work fine.
i do remember some issues with either the '13 X or some other models that were unable to do simultaneous voice/data but was eventually resolved.

I bought a nexus 6 on day 1. I was coming from a note 3 with a micro sim .I did not deal with Verizon at all. I cut my sim to make it a nano. Threw it in my Nexus 6 and the rest is history. Been using it ever since and when i get my 6p im just gonna transfer that sim into the 6p

I've cut down a sim card before. I had the HTC Rezound and when I ordered the Galaxy S4 I didn't want to go through the hassle of getting a Micro Sim from the store. The Rezound had a full size sim. There are sim templates online. Download and print one out. Cut the template EXACTLY and place on your Sim card. Trace in Pencil and then get a quality pair of scissors. Easy as that. They also make Sim card cutters online you can buy really cheap.

you do not even need a template...a good pair of durasheer type scissors and just trim all the plastic around the gold contacts off and you are good to go.

mikexda said:
I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I called up and told them that a friend was giving me a Motorola Nexus 6, but I didn't have the phone yet so I couldn't activate it over the phone, and requested the nano-SIM.
It arrives tomorrow and I plan on putting it in an adapter and into my Rezound and activating it. That way on delivery day, I will just swap the SIM into the new phone. No guarantees, but I read this worked for the X Pure.

This is a really stupid question but I never bought a phone that I couldn't just pop my old sim card into and use right away. Are you saying I need to go buy a nano sim card from verizon and go through the activation process? I want to be able to use my phone straight out of the box so how to a buy a nano SIM so I have it ready to go on delivery day??
I've had unlimited data forever and I bet Verizon will claim new sim card means i'm no longer grandfathered but thats a headache for another day.

I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.

Blindprophet32 said:
I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.
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You just called Verizon to do this?

nonnasmyladie said:
You just called Verizon to do this?
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I actually did the online chat with a representitive... but yes... I took a chance and it worked out jsut fine. I figured I would get the, "If you try and activate the 6P on our network, you will not be able to. So i cannot provide you with a new nano SIM." But.. she was cool about it and told me to use an adapter and activate it on my G3 before placing the nano sim in my 6P... which was the plan anyways lol

Blindprophet32 said:
I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.
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Blindprophet32 said:
I actually did the online chat with a representitive... but yes... I took a chance and it worked out jsut fine. I figured I would get the, "If you try and activate the 6P on our network, you will not be able to. So i cannot provide you with a new nano SIM." But.. she was cool about it and told me to use an adapter and activate it on my G3 before placing the nano sim in my 6P... which was the plan anyways lol
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I just went on Verizon chat and asked them for a nano-SIM and they said they would ship it out right away. They had no issue with what device it was for or anything. She said there was no need to activate it in my old phone just put it in the new phone when it arrives and it will been fine.... We shall see.

nonnasmyladie said:
I just went on Verizon chat and asked them for a nano-SIM and they said they would ship it out right away. They had no issue with what device it was for or anything. She said there was no need to activate it in my old phone just put it in the new phone when it arrives and it will been fine.... We shall see.
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I would pre activate it... Just in case lol.. Wonder why she told me she needed a device... Seems odd... Wonder if they know people are buying the Nexus devices and they are trying to gauge interest..
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mikexda said:
I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I can say with confidence that we shouldn't have a problem. Here's why:
I ordered a Nexus 6 from Motorola the day it was released. The Problem was,
I was using a HTC One M7 (Micro Sim)...The Nexus 6 is a Nano Sim and Verizon
didn't support the phone. I went into Verizon thinking all they had to do was
activate a Nano Sim and all is well....NOPE! They told me I needed a phone with
the Nano Sim to activate it. Luckily the guy that was helping me ended up being
AWESOME! He found an nonactivated Iphone 5 (Nano Sim) and added to my
account and then just swapped the Nano Sim into my Nexus 6 and LTE
popped up.
So i can 99% ensure that it will work with just a Sim Swap.
Lets cross our fingers for that 1% chance

All you chat people must have gotten lucky I chatted with VZW's customer service, and was told that while they could ship me out a new sim, I would have to CALL them to have it done. I sound like the odd man out here, so I must just gotten the nitwit of the bunch. Anyways, I ended up just ordering a "noosy 3rd gen sim card cutter" (from EBay, as I had an absolute nightmare TWICE with Amazon on this specific product for some reason), and feel like I'll be set to go.
It's literally a paper punch, but for sim cards. While I feel I could trim them with no issue, for ~$10 I felt like the added speed and surity of it all seemed like a no brainer to me

ohlin5 said:
All you chat people must have gotten lucky I chatted with VZW's customer service, and was told that while they could ship me out a new sim, I would have to CALL them to have it done. I sound like the odd man out here, so I must just gotten the nitwit of the bunch. Anyways, I ended up just ordering a "noosy 3rd gen sim card cutter" (from EBay, as I had an absolute nightmare TWICE with Amazon on this specific product for some reason), and feel like I'll be set to go.
It's literally a paper punch, but for sim cards. While I feel I could trim them with no issue, for ~$10 I felt like the added speed and surity of it all seemed like a no brainer to me
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Ya.... I felt like I got pretty lucky.. i expected to be given a lot of crap especially because I just switched to their newer/cheaper data plan and currently have 0 phones that use their silly monthly payment plan to buy a phone.

I spoke with a local Verizon rep in the same building as my work; he told me that I would be unable to activate my Nexus 6P on Verizon; I asked him about activating another phone and swapping that sim to the N6P, to which he responded, "Yeah, as long as they're (the sim card) the same size."
I take take his word with a grain of salt, as he seemed to think that the Nexus 6P was just the PLUS version of the standard Nexus 6; just like Apples iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+

Akasa Fox said:
I spoke with a local Verizon rep in the same building as my work; he told me that I would be unable to activate my Nexus 6P on Verizon; I asked him about activating another phone and swapping that sim to the N6P, to which he responded, "Yeah, as long as they're (the sim card) the same size."
I take take his word with a grain of salt, as he seemed to think that the Nexus 6P was just the PLUS version of the standard Nexus 6; just like Apples iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+
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If you have an active Verizon sim card just put it in the 6P. If it's a micro then cut it, it still works. Another trick is if you happen to have a IPhone6 IMEI or any phone that is on the Verizon phone list that is Nano SIM you can use that in lieu to activate your 6P.

My friend just got a moto x pure and he just threw in his nano Sim and it worked right , plus tethering is unlocked since verizon doesn't have their mits on the phone first.

Thoughts on selling bogo S8?

I've been waiting a while for a worthwhile promotion/phone to replace my Note 4, and I noticed the promotion that started yesterday offering BOGO for the S8/S8+/Note 8. I'm on a plan with two lines that's ridiculously cheap at $50/mo and the second person really does not have a need for such an extravagant phone so I was wondering if I could get the second phone and simply sell it? There's some mumbo jumbo about activating both phones on your account but I can't imagine t-mobile cares that the phone is actually registered to the persons individual account versus another one.
My main concerns are ensuring I receive the full reimbursement after I drop the $800 on the phone, and the stipulation requiring a line be added. Tmobile rep in india says I can work around that by removing and adding a line, but who knows, billing usually gets screwed up for the firs month or two. Seems like I could get a great deal if I work it this way.
Thoughts?

mitchell0714 said:
I've been waiting a while for a worthwhile promotion/phone to replace my Note 4, and I noticed the promotion that started yesterday offering BOGO for the S8/S8+/Note 8. I'm on a plan with two lines that's ridiculously cheap at $50/mo and the second person really does not have a need for such an extravagant phone so I was wondering if I could get the second phone and simply sell it? There's some mumbo jumbo about activating both phones on your account but I can't imagine t-mobile cares that the phone is actually registered to the persons individual account versus another one.
My main concerns are ensuring I receive the full reimbursement after I drop the $800 on the phone, and the stipulation requiring a line be added. Tmobile rep in india says I can work around that by removing and adding a line, but who knows, billing usually gets screwed up for the firs month or two. Seems like I could get a great deal if I work it this way.
Thoughts?
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It was the case for the Samsung.com promotion in June for the BOGO...I activated only my phone on the network and it worked just fine. Good luck, call and ask how many lines need to be activated.

TheLastSidekick said:
It was the case for the Samsung.com promotion in June for the BOGO...I activated only my phone on the network and it worked just fine. Good luck, call and ask how many lines need to be activated.
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They said only one line needs to be added, but that can be worked around by removing and adding a line (stupid method, they should have another way)
but they mentioned nothing about how many lines need to be activated, i highly doubt they care if the second phone is activated because the way i see it some people sell their phones after 6 months anyways
still interested in hearing if anyone else has done this before

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They said only one line needs to be added, but that can be worked around by removing and adding a line (stupid method, they should have another way)
but they mentioned nothing about how many lines need to be activated, i highly doubt they care if the second phone is activated because the way i see it some people sell their phones after 6 months anyways
still interested in hearing if anyone else has done this before
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As long as the one line is active, then I don't see why you couldn't sell the second phone.

Just noticed the FAQ says you arent eligible if you cancel a line after september 1st, so this essentially hurts relations with existing customers like me. not happy about it, anyone know if this is actually the case because the tmobile rep said i could work around it but it doesnt sound like it