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you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
get what im trying to say?
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.
I don't get what you are trying to say....
@ubuntu, the TP2 has a physical keyboard so ubuntu would be much more practical then on the hero.
@android port for TP2, ummmmm who cares about the TP2? I used dzo's android port for a long time and I greatly respect everything that they have accomplished. It truly is amazing.
I agree.
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you know i was just reviewing the tp2 section of xda, the android section i should say. i see they have a port of ubutnu for the phone now. i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able to do to that dying phone to breath new life into it is outstanding and deserves total respect and applause from all of us.
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The sole reason I didn't get the TP2 was the fact it was running WinMo.
WinMo has to be the worst phone UI ever, why the heck would anyone want to use a stylus to navigate the UI. Nevermind the fact I've never heard one positive review of Windows Mobile as far as speed was concerned.
-Mike
if i were a touchpro2 "and i was very briefly" user id want a full port of android like the vogue users had. i mean what zen, dzo & mission were able
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For anybody that doesn't want to have to read this sentence 10 times to understand it, here's a punctuated and readable version:
If I were a Touch Pro 2 owner, and I actually was for a very brief period, I'd want a full port of Android, much like the Vogue users had.
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I only read it 7 times.
sorry i was sick as hell yesterday and still am. thanks mr grammar nazi's!
my point was having a port of ubuntu is stupid IMO, id rather have a fully working android port that could be flashed to nand like the vogue users have. got it now?
I dunno if I had a TP2 and then upgraded to something else but still had my old TP2 laying around. I would most likely put something like ubuntu on it for ****s and giggles.
fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop
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fixxxer,
wow, you've graduated from useless personal opinion posts to starting whole new useless personal opinion threads. Way to go man, you're really making progress. Congratulations.
I might have a couple ideas as to why someone would attempt to run ubuntu, debian or just about anything else on their phone:
1. just because
2. it's a challenge just to see if you can do it
3. It's fun
4. did I mention "just because"
Just a heads up: your frustration over not having the skills to do these things yourself is showing...muffintop
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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.
Actually, man, if you leave out the first and last paragraphs and just read his list, he answered your question perfectly. The fact that you don't get it says s lot. This is, at its base, a community of hackers (or hacker wannabes, like me). Half the reason we do ANYTHING with our phones is because we can. Just for the sheer unadulterated HELL OF IT! Kinda like choosing to do themes the hard way yourself, rather than using metamorph. The fact that some of what we do makes our phones more functional is sometimes almost secondary to the feeling of having got your hands dirty and done something yourself. It is the same thing that drives people to DIY rather than just buying the finished product at the store...even when you might have saved a buck and some time just dropping the cash.
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what crawled up your ass? what just because i posted an opinion about that app you helped create? the point of a message board is to create, help and debate. all i did was give an opinion, there is no reason for you to get all worked up. it's not like i said it was useless.
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"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS
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"didnt say regaw's toolbox was useless" either, did you? I'm tired of seeing the same old crap from you already. Every time I see your name on a post I jump past it, every thread you own I skip, for the sole reason of not feeling like reading useless BS
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Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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i know its lame, but dont people still follow if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything atall? i lurked for 2 months before i joined because i was scared people would be rude to me for asking questions/expressing opinions. xda doesnt have a bad name, only the cdma hero section. every other portal, every other FORUM, people never act like some of the people here. i think most of the people here are teenagers or lonely old men, which would explain alot.
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I'm beginning to think that too.
alright guys lets ton it down, i don't need all of my threads locked because neb is on the rag today. lets just forget it. i swear sometimes this site lives up to it's bad name.
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Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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settle down man, i don't need you defending me. thanks but your thoughts are not mine. yes neb misunderstood what i said but let it go.
In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?
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In an attempt to bring this thread back around to topic and stop some of the bickering:
The reasons I see for doing something like installing Debian or Ubuntu on a phone are pretty simple:
1. To see what is possible
2. To find out what your are capable of
3. To find out what the device is capable of
4. To do something that no one else around you has done
In other words, why not?
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im not dissing it per say but i think a full port of android would be better. i know they pretty much abandoned android for ubuntu and there was quite a few people upset.
smoother2010 said:
Quit ****ing trolling his threads to make a point. he's not the only one who won't use that app and yes IM calling it useless. how do you like that? or maybe the lack of hits in that thread explains it all.
you people around here need to grow up because it's giving xda a bad name and im sick of looking at the bull****.
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Quit trolling this dude's threads? he dont mean a damn thing to me, and neither do you, but his actions as well as yours are uncalled for including trolling other peoples threads claiming the stuff they spend countless hours on is "useless"
join after I do but post more than I? who be the troll here, sweetie?
Have a good night.
I honestly don't know any of the background details of what was going on in the TP2 forum. This is what i was responding to:
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i guess i just don't get as to why you would want it? sorta the same with us hero users wanting to try out debian on our phones? whats the point of it?
get what im trying to say?
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Sometimes the purpose is the trip not the destination. That's how I feel about hacking our phones, anyway. 90% of the time, I don't really need to be able to access my desktop and take control of it through VNC, but the fact that I can makes me really happy. I don't need to be able to stream HD movies on my phone, but the fact that I will be able to with the evo has me excited. What color flashes on the screen when i tap an app doesn't really make a flying fvck in the long run, but I like the glassy blue, so I rip into every rom I download and change it. To me, that is the why that answers your initial question. To someone for whom the end functionality is the ultimate goal, the this may not make any sense, but to someone else who enjoys the process of creation and tinkering, the opposite might be true. And in a community of devs and hackers, i think you are likely to find as many or more of the latter than the former.
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Congrats to all the kids and trolls in the vibrant section for running of another dev. For those that haven't seen Eugene has removed all of his work from XDA. I don't understand how people can be so hateful for someone taking their time to make our phones better.
You accept the risk anytime you flash an unofficial kernel/modem/rom/fix.
How hard is that to understand I mean really. If you can't fix your phone after something happens then you shouldn't be messing with it! People need to stop blaming the devs before they are all run off.
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didnt eugene quit xda like a year ago?? lol
xriderx66 said:
didnt eugene quit xda like a year ago?? lol
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looool , usles thread , You are right .
btw you cant make morons signing up for this forum usles thread bvecause we cannot do anything about it ,its parents fault for not rasing their kids good enough , AND DEVS KNOW WE LOVE THEM ! thats why we still donate , duhh
look at this another way, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THEIR PHONES AND COMPLAIN THAT LIFE SUCKS AND SO THEIR PHONES SUCKS ,NOW THEY COME HERE AND COMPLAIN AGAIN BECAUSE THEIR LIFE STILL SUCKS AND ON TOP OF THAT THEY BRICKED THEIR PHONES ;p
Ay yay yayyy.....
I agree on all accounts. Yetisarereal, you got a point, yet Paipie, ALSO has a good point.
Seriously, instead of us making thread's like this, we should hound and harrass the people that harrass our devs. PM them. Give them ****. Flood them. Report them.
I agree that some devs can't take heat, but, c'mon man.....
I mean really... C'MON MAN.
Behind that screen name, it is still a person. PEOPLE NEEDS TO RESPECT OTHERS, AND AT THE SAME TIME, DEVS, SERIOUSLY... THIS IS JUST THE INTERNET.
Oy vey...
Thank goodness i don't develop anymore, not necessarily Android. But, i'm still here!
R E S P E C T = Find out what it means to you and me. lol
Being good to another person makes me feel good inside , people try it out .
Wait, he removed everything?
****, I NEEDED HIS DEAD HORSE KERNEL. D:
Oh well. Guess I can't run darky's ROM now.
goddamnit guys, he removed all his CM7 stuff, not all of his xda stuff (although, i wouldn't blame him).
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goddamnit guys, he removed all his CM7 stuff, not all of his xda stuff (although, i wouldn't blame him).
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He removed his XDA stuff too go look at any of his posts the OPs are all filled with '1234567890'.
who's the ************ that made eugene leave?
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I really don't quite comprehend this community. Use to be top notch people who loved to share and help. We supported our devs who work for FREE.
Then, noobs started flaming and blaming for no reason and now you chase them away.
Great job noobs. Eugene helped so much on these forums.
Is his website still up?
What was the URL again?
guys, eugene's left before, and its not a big deal, just go on his website and download the stuff, it supports him and + gives him website visitors anyways.
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guys, eugene's left before, and its not a big deal, just go on his website and download the stuff, it supports him and + gives him website visitors anyways.
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Just read on his twitter he is sharing his mods on a "closed community site" , I'm not sure where that site is....
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Just read on his twitter he is sharing his mods on a "closed community site" , I'm not sure where that site is....
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whats his twitter?
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whats his twitter?
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@Eugene_373
it tells me that he's protected all his tweets??
lol Eugene is trying to getaway from US but we keep on chasing Him lol leave the poor guy alone
Wow this blows
I hope this doesn't fuel the other devs, because, no to be rude( and i know im probably gonna get a ***** slap or two for saying this) but there is not alot of new roms as frequently as the nexus one, galaxy s or etc...Thinking about it, it sounds bad no matter what way i say it...
I MUST HAVE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no jk
i never used anything from him besides unbrickable 2.1 anyways
i apologize to any and everyone whose work i have used without getting your permission first i truely truely am sorry. i will be taking everything down that i have posted on xda that has other's work without them giving me permission to use it. and even once i ask them and they deny permission i will be taking the uploads down after that as well. again i'm sorry
as for everyone's comments about my HUGE MISTAKE I'M SORRY ABOUT....
LiquidSolstice said:
I never gave anyone permission to do this. You didn't ask me, you told me after the fact. I was planning on letting guitardoc take over, but this is just unacceptable.
Please take this down.
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i did post a comment on your thread asking you to pm me but you never did and i got impatient and hyped up about things and i just rushed things and posted finished stable builds of your rom without your permission thinking things would be okay if i emphisized 3x on the thread i didn't do anything but finish your rom all credit goes to you for all other work. but again i went about things the wrong way i wasn't trying to take full credit for your rom i thought i made that clear in the first post but i guess saying it 3x still isn't the right way to go about things, glad to see we're working things out (btw everyone check out the title of his thread now ) for the better now bro! so i'd like to say this publicly, SORRY FOR USING YOUR ROM WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION LIQUID! (i wanted to say that on the forum so everyone saw lol ) do you accept my appology liquid? (impaler please ____ , you know what we talked about, after liquid post his reply)
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Uh-oh!
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I know i made a big uh oh!
LiquidSolstice said:
Let's get something straight here, because it seems you're all offended right now. You can stop fishing for pity or sympathy, because I have none for you.
"help" would have been PMing me what you tried to do, I could test it, and if it works, the links would get posted on the ORIGINAL thread with full credit to you. Hell, I would have put a goddamn donate button right next to links to you. That's how proper crediting goes. I credit with permission every single person who has tested or fixed something for me with the ROM, and that would not have been any different.
Instead, without telling me, you copied my thread, put up a modified version of my ROM, and told me only AFTER the fact that you did so.
You have some INSANE issues with understanding permission and crediting, and as I understand it, this isn't your first time. It doesn't matter if you put my name in 72 BOLD pt in this thread, you never asked me and you posted a whole damn new thread for it. That's just not ok.
If you really want to be "omg super-hero dev", you need to start earning your fellow dev's respect, and right now, that's not working out for you.
If you're still interested in being credited for this, PM me with the download links, I'll check them out, and if they are ok, I'll put it in my original 2.1.1 thread with full credit to you. That's how it works.
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i really want to earn my fellow dev's respect but i keep screwing up i'm sorry again bro. and i'm reading the forum rules about crediting as we speak right now.
laie1472 said:
LMAO I gotta post on this. Sup kifno man?? How can you post take down jasonmaloney and i's rom??? When in the op man you don't give him credit for anything. You state you have finished up ls's rom not jasonmaloney and you. And come on kifno you didn't even ask the man could you work on his rom??? Wow impressive.
Yea its me Again With the
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no i asked to take down jasonmaloney's build and my build (two seperate things) b/c we both posted our build's on liquid's thread without his permission.....which was a big no no....but i made things worse by making a seperate thread....again sorry liquid. so there was no need to credit jasonmaloney, laie i know i messed up big time smh stupid move on my part
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Not that it matters much, but his ROMs and jasonmaloney's are separate. jasonmaloney just put his in Liquid's original 2.1.1 thread here.
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exactly what i was saying about taking down our build's....
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At least jasonmaloney did not try to make a brand new thread about it. He would have asked me ahead of time, as a proper dev should.
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again i asked ahead of time on the thread but no reply but i did screw things up worse by making this thread again sorry....
il Duce said:
this is EXACTLY what I was talking about in the NFX rom that you put up as your own, you are officially a KANGAHOLIC, and people have been and should be banned for it. Every thread you posts seems to be less about development and more about popularity, you even say **** like "my rom" which you could only REALLY say if you built it from google source, which you obviously can't do. I sincerely hope liquid reported you to the Scotsman, and appropriate action is taken. you = sick. me = sickened.
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i said in my rom's thread that it was based of nfx rom and i gave him credit, i said what i did. i didn't do what i did with liquid's rom, two completely different things... il Duce ik i screwed up with this rom and again i won't be making any mess ups like this again (me = thinking before my actions from now on xda) sorry
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it's not even as though I would have minded him PMing me first or even do what Jasonmaloney did (posting it as a reply in the original thread )
My rom (I say that very loosely) is based on nfx, but only with full permission from nfinite and on popular request. Even further I credited (with permission ) anyone who helped in testing or debugging, and that is the proper thing to do.
I'm just disappointed. that's the worst of it.
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again my apologies are given to you, do you accept? i know i screwed up big time bro....smh big mistake here
33hfl said:
LS should be out of this and not to be so ofended or asking for any recognition about what someone did when he walked away from his own ROM.He sould thank this guy for finish what he started and never finished after a lot of promess and excuses
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no bro i screwed up...i can't even agree to anything you just said b/c all i wanted to do was help
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oh my god you cannot be serious. smh
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read what i said
33hfl said:
go kifno good work
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good work = yes did i mess up? = HELL YEAH!
FdxRider said:
FORUM RULES12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
Convincing evidence will result in copied work being removed. If there is no clear evidence you created the work then in the spirit of sharing all work will remain posted on the forums.
These rules apply to all software posted on XDA unless that software comes with a license that waives these rules.
Seek permission <---- What part of that do you or kifno not understand?
Doesn't matterr if it's been dormant for long time still LS's work. Follow the forum rules.
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i am reading and MEMORIZING the forum rules as of now
dpeeps74 said:
Oh man, I'm team Jacob!
Wait, wrong drama
~run, run, as fast as you can, can't catch me I'm the gingerbread man~
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lol wow
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I dont know why LS is crying right now when he wallked away from his own ROM after a lot of excuses and promises.he turned his back on his own son.He should thank this man for the woderful job done.Or he forgot his post.Kifno never took credit for what he was doing,he always gave it to LS
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i did give credit to him 3x throughout the post and said all i did was finish it as he planned to but i went about it wrong....
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LMAO u sew funneeeeee! NOT!
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ik that was funny right?
jasonmaloney said:
Again with the hostility.
Folks, there is a report post button on every single post on this site. You would all do better to use it than to fill up the development forum with unnecessary drama.
Yes, it wasn't very smart to use LiquidSolstice's work without his permission AND to start a new thread for it with a misleadingly similar title. But the bickering and harassment isn't any more accepted by the rules, nor is it productive in any constructive way. It doesn't really matter who was originally right or wrong; this forum is getting flooded with way too much verbal diarrhea. This is not the XDA mantra.
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again i apologize for doing what i did to even create this drama....this wouldn't have happened if i did things the correct way....sorry
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What's the big deal?
The man gave LS credit and he said it "I'm just finishing what LS COULDN'T FINISH"
LS, if you don't want people to finish your ROM. Maybe YOU SHOULD TRY FINISHING YOUR ROM..
You left your ROM out there as a bastard child and that bastard child found a father to take care of it.
WHY CRY ABOUT IT?
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no no i went about things wrong i take full responsiblity for my mistake...sorry liquid
LiquidSolstice said:
Excellent contribution. It must be nice, sitting there just using other people's work and never really taking the time to find out how it all comes together. I'm sure you must be spoiled and basically taking all these custom ROMs you get for granted as most people seem to these days. Just a quick look at any tech blog concerning Android, and you'll find comments such as "oh I'm not worried, XDA will figure it out". People freeload off this place so willingly, paying nothing in either donation or even respect/appreciation (which is all most devs are looking for)
In the meantime, we'll just go with this; my rom = my rom. Whether or not I want to finish it, or whether or not I want it to be finished, or in this case, wehther or not I want someone else to do it, that would be my choice. I put in the hours, I put in the time, you did nothing.
I left the ROM because no one seemed to give a damn about it, and I'm finding out increasingly that I was very wrong about that. If you looked at Chef Central on the Main XDA Forum page, you'll find a few threads by me asking for help with the last bit of cooking, which was the kernel. I didn't notice that Kifno figured it out, and only realized what I needed to fo when jasonmaloney PMed me. I said I had every intention of making it stable, and I was indeed working on it.
Which means that it is my task and my right to put up the final update to my own ROM, not have someone else do it without even letting me know beforehand or asking me, and then posting my exact thread over again instead of PMing me the link to add it in the OP, and then telling me after the fact.
Kifno has already got in touch with me and we're working it out, you guys can relax now.
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again we talked things out and i'm sorry bro. and yes i may just be improving others work (the espreeso 2.1 rom i posted) and changing things, i never took full credit actually most of it goes to nfx b/c everyday i wake up he has a pm in my inbox helping me out with the espresso 2.1 rom, it wouldn't be where it is at without his help. only thing i can take full credit for is my build.prop's thats the only thing i actually did from my own work as for the espresso 2.1 rom that was from the help of many other members on this site, i never took full credit for that rom. i use the term my rom, when i refer to the espresso 2.1 rom, b/c i changed it, not b/c i developed it from scratch and did everything to it on my own, i'm not a super-dev yet lol. i'm just improving other's work and learning along the way and giving them credit and asking permission along the way from now on until i know enough to make something of my own again (besides text files lol) that will be of great help to the community....but for now i'm focuses on improving my rom (AGAIN IT ISN'T COMPLETELY MY ROM MANY OTHERS HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY) and helping others with their work for the hero and problems....first person on the list....liquid!!!!!! (we're pming each other now folks working this out for the better so its alright)
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So.....can we use the Rom or No.....Just seems like it was a mistake by the OP to reuse LS's unfinished work without permission, that obviously was a mistake, but if the rom is up and running and "stable" can we just not forgive and forget?
I'm just wondering, not taking a stance/side just a user asking a question.
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we're working on things right now...
You know what man, you're a smark kid, you just take things a bit fast.
You'll grow to understand what it means to command respect here, and I'm sure you'll earn it from everyone. This place is bursting with ideas and creativity, but just PM ROM devs in the future. Every ROM dev needs help, there's no denying that. Sometimes the help you have to offer isn't enough or isn't to their preference, but there's never any harm in PMing to find out.
As far as my ROM goes, with your help, we'll finish this up and finally put an end to all this over exaggerated madness.
E huuuuuuuuug
[dpeeps74]
I think we all learned something here (I sure did), and that's a positive.
Kifno:
I understand you're trying to help, but make it short and sweet. We don't need a full passive - aggressive rundown of events.
I think you would do a great service to yourself (and the people reading your long disjointed posts) if you learned to use some basic English language sentence structure. Your lack of punctuation and your paragraphs of run-on sentences makes you look uneducated and immature.
You're not a bad person, so please take this as constructive criticism.
Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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Kifno,Way to walk this world in man's shoes! I have the most profound respect for you. Make a mistake and own up to it
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I AGREE with FDX.... RESPECT MAN!!
KIFNO, Admitted he was Wrong!!
That's Big in itself!! It's seems these days, People find it SO MUCH EASIER to just LIE, or BULL**** their way through MISTAKES and basically LIFE in general!
Kifno DIDN'T DO THAT! Instead he owned up to his MISTAKES....
"LIKE a MAN" Should do!
After the Fact, at the End of the Day, All that's Left to come to some sort RECONCILIATION is a TRUE from the HEART a APOLOGY!!
*Sent On My*
Fast as its Ever Been...
"Sprint" Hero... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero*ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA.BLUE.apk! "Page:10"of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
Hey kifno
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U no tjsy myvrnhlo
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Wow man great job kifno. It's tough to own up in the face of so many people watching this, you're really just a good person beyond the scope of these forums. I'm proud to call you a fellow human being. I've been watching this escalate and deescalate and I must say it's been a roller coaster ride. I must say some people have been a bit harsher than they should have, but it's understandable when looked at from a different perspective. Kudos to you again.
I'm excited about how the ROM is moving forward at lightning speed right now. Note, LS, that I'm actually using your ROM right now (2.1 stable) and I llllllllooooove it! keep up the good work, I bet it's time-consuming and frustrating to look through and optimize so much code!
~ Jake
Thanks everyone
And I'm not a grammar freak lol I don't treat my post as essays I just type what comes to mind lol that's why my paragraph structure and grammar look bad on the forums just like this very long run on sentence but really constantly working, and school, and keeping 5 roms (mine and ls 4 builds) and my tweak up to date with fixes and new tweaks and optimizations is very time consuming and hard to fit all in one day lol but I just want to help the community and I plan on doing that the right way, LESSON LEARNED HERE, BTW look out for kifno & ls projects in the future
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
Many thanks!!
In the aftermath of all this stuff, I just want to say that truly I appreciate ALL the hard work that you devs put into keeping our Heroes from becoming paperweights. Just the small amount of work I've put into making my own themes for myself makes me appreciate the scope of talent and sheer blood, sweat, and tears it takes to make this stuff work.
ALL YOU DEVS ROCK!!!
oohaylima said:
Don't worry about the Grammar police brother. They're pretty tamed here.
Keep up the excellent work! We grow through our mistakes; damn glad you took the initiative. Stay motivated!!!!
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol Ya got me cop'er.
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Lol.... Good **** Guys, Gotta Nice Laugh Outta Me!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
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You forgot a comma between "police" and "brother". You have been warned. The next offence will result in more badgering.
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Uh oh better watch out for that Guy glad to see everyone getting along and joking with each other
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Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
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Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
PMGRANDS said:
Lol, I'm Not Really Sure Why?
But, For Some Reason, It Seems like Some of us Rather Stray Away from the Joking Level, to Instead be Uptight and Insulting!????
Especially when the Majority of us (Members) are Mainly Here to Learn, and Share Knowledge that these ****y Phone Companies Don't want us to Know!!
*Sent on My*
Fast as its Ever Been....
"Sprint" Hero.... Running My, *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, KIFNO's Build.Prop.Tweek, & The XDA BLUE.apk!! "Page 10" of My Thread!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957867
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WTMLMK6M
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=/&gl=US#/profile?user=PMGRANDS
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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*LIGHTS AND SIRENS*
Sir, I'm here to confiscate your shift key, and for good measure I'll need your caps lock, too. Capital letters are a privilege, not a right. Don't abuse them.
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lmao! --> extra characters because my message was too short.
OK people, as you all can see kifno is gone. We spoke at length by PM in the last few days, and the result was decent. He asked me post this for him after he left, so here it is:
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You may all know me as, kifno. I'd like to let everyone know that yes, in the past I have kanged/stolen/un-credited others for their work. Why? I was a fool who didn't understand what XDA was all about, and didn't even take the time to read the rules. And what have I done to myself? I've dug myself in a hole so deep below the earth's surface, that I'm sweating bullets its so hot down here by the earth's core. But in all serious-ness, I realize that kifno could never EVER undo what he has done in his past to make it up to you all. Even though I have posted some work of my own along with others. The coding and themes that I have truly took the time to do myself. But even using the work of others and reporting it works on the heroc isn't the problem. The problem is the way I went about doing it. And even now that I tried to stop doing so and be an help to the community, that will never undo that. And for that I realize that this account and all its threads and post are a symbol of disgrace to XDA. I am having il Duce let you all know this because I have asked the mods to delete everything that my account has ever done. I've decided to get a fresh start on things and be the person I truly am on XDA and NOT be the person I tried to be, some awesome "dev" because I am not. A few scripts and themes don't make you awesome, being a living symbol of what XDA is about like other developers and themers and scripters and others are what make you "awesome". And that I could never be because of my past. Some of you may find joy in my last words because you kifno gone, others may find joy that I have realized what I have done and what I need to do. Others may find sadness while reading this because of the help I've given them in the past. In no way, shape, or form and I trying to offend anyone but it won't effect my decision on what "kifno" has decided to do, leave. I hope you understand where I am coming from with things and again major thanks to il Duce for posting this for me now that I am gone.
Best Regards XDA,
- Kifno
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This confirms some stuff I've read lately.. and from what I understand Aspen Tree is the name that's displayed when a name is deleted..
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We all should and can learn from our mistakes Kifno.I hope that with some passing of time and a little reflection all will be well.
to much drama
xjayman said:
to much drama
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Agreed....
Just goes to show, no matter what you do or say, you can't please everyone . Some people just don't get "It" .
I go away for a few days and this happens??
For those old timers around here... I expect another Fixxxer / smoother / markus_del, etc., etc. situation - you know, making multiple accounts and all that.
Personally, if I am right about that, I can't wait for that to happen again. He'll get called out on it, as I think he should be.
If you F*** up, take responsibility and deal with the consequences; there's no need to try and hide by changing your name/identity. "Fresh" start or not, I think creating a new account will only come around to bite him in the ass just as hard as when he was kanging once people find out what his new alter-ego is.
just my 2c
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pstevep said:
and from what I understand Aspen Tree is the name that's displayed when a name is deleted..
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Not a new account !
It got annoying to see his name on everything new out there. The tweak turned out to be sh!t. Some people are saying he already came back with a new name.
Kif, if you read this, stick to one thing and make it awesome. You were spreading yourself too thin.
He was just tring way to hard for his own good in my opinion there have been much worse out there anyone remember sandix from the webos port what a freakin douche lol. i would have died if that had been succesful lol.
kyouko said:
I go away for a few days and this happens??
For those old timers around here... I expect another Fixxxer / smoother / markus_del, etc., etc. situation - you know, making multiple accounts and all that.
Personally, if I am right about that, I can't wait for that to happen again. He'll get called out on it, as I think he should be.
If you F*** up, take responsibility and deal with the consequences; there's no need to try and hide by changing your name/identity. "Fresh" start or not, I think creating a new account will only come around to bite him in the ass just as hard as when he was kanging once people find out what his new alter-ego is.
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Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.
Bierce22 said:
He was just tring way to hard for his own good in my opinion there have been much worse out there anyone remember sandix from the webos port what a freakin douche lol. i would have died if that had been succesful lol.
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Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with him because he meant well for heroc nor did I want him to "leave". I just think the way he's handling all this by deleting his Kifno account to take the easy way out is callow.
If he posted that PM instead of having il Duce post it, I for one would have more respect towards him. We all Most of us (not including me ) make mistakes; learn from them and move on.
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Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.
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Smh...
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whats the point of just making a new account if your gonna leave then leave.
I can see the reasons for leaving it and creating a new name.. even on owning up to one's mistakes on here there are some of us that don't let things go.. and would have harassed him any way.. i wasn't a kifno fan by any means so not sticking up for him.. and making a new account to not be like the other one would take more discipline than I think he has any way.. its hard to change who you are, or at least convince people you are different..
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.. i wasn't a kifno fan by any means so not sticking up for him.. and making a new account to not be like the other one would take more discipline than I think he has any way.. its hard to change who you are, or at least convince people you are different..
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^^^^^^
that.
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Here's the new account. That certainly didn't take long.
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If that really is him I see he still thinks he's the cats pajamas. Also, I almost vomited from all of the self pity and melodrama in the op. Talking about yourself in the third person is annoying, as well.
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I can't wait to buy a new phone.
aiwetir said:
I can't wait to buy a new phone.
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+1, good sir.
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+1, good sir.
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aiwetir said:
I can't wait to buy a new phone.
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I think you win the award for funniest lmao.
I'm on a mission. We aren't dead or a legacy device just yet. I feel we've been put here too early to make room for other phones threads. We still have updates to our roms. That's not low activity. Sure we aren't high traffic here but there's still plenty of users.
Anything you wanna chat about? Questions? This is after all the general thread.
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Hey if I post enough times they will let me post in the development section. So I end up killing two birds with one stone.
Have to say I'm glad that there is a place like xda for people to share their ideas and work. Otherwise I would probably have upgraded my little hero by now. Still actually enjoy the little phone. When I get tired of it I switch roms and boom got a new phone.
Where I live all we have is 3g so don't really figure it pays to upgrade til sprint figures out what they are doing with their 4g.
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Hey if I post enough times they will let me post in the development section. So I end up killing two birds with one stone.
Have to say I'm glad that there is a place like xda for people to share their ideas and work. Otherwise I would probably have upgraded my little hero by now. Still actually enjoy the little phone. When I get tired of it I switch roms and boom got a new phone.
Where I live all we have is 3g so don't really figure it pays to upgrade til sprint figures out what they are doing with their 4g.
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Man I remember when this forum was hoppin. I knew nothing of android. Just lurking and reading whatever I could understand. Now.. I develop for it And all thanks to XDA. Almost everything I learned, I learned here. It takes a lot of time reading and searching and understanding.
New users. Feel free to post here if you can't post in the development threads. Just please refrain from "stupid" questions that can easily be answered with a search. Please read the forum rules. I beg of you. They are there for a good reason. Us senior members remember what it was like being new here but it gets old answering the same questions over and over. I will be glad to help or discuss anything here. And please use the Thanks button. I'm a complete whore over it. I'll admit it. But I do return a lot of them too.
Shameless plug time
Try out Team Hydra's Zero Hero Sense 3.5!! It's what Sprint should have left us with!!
just want to pop in and say thank you to all the devs for letting me come in late to the hero life cycle and still use this awesome little phone like its brand new. coming from the xdandroid builds on winmo phones to the vogue with android port and now to the hero, im not giving up on this thing for a long time to come. legacy is not a word to use for this device yet.
Exactly. We aren't technically low-activity IMO. Just quiet users who are afraid to post maybe. I know my reputation is the resident prick here but that's changed. Those of us older members remember what it was like here and why I took that stance. I could look in my history again and find some really good examples of why I was the way I was, and maybe still am. I hear the shooter forums are quite the riot and I've stayed away for a reason.
hey every section needs a resident prick lol, it keeps us all on topic
dont be afraid to be that prick, tell it how it is and things will flow smoother
but what if I'm wrong?
I was a lurker for a while until I finally got the balls to actually root my phone and now I cant get enough of flashing different ROMs.....and making my own Splash screens.
I wish I would have done this a year ago!!!
Only been one here not even a month getting my toes wet. I wish I had time to invest in really learning these systems.
I have got to hand it you all the devs that spend there time this stuff.
I just love how all of our work is basically a slap in Sprint's money grubbing face. See what WE can do with it? Jerks.
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matt u know i love ya and i didnt even bother reading this but are u high.... you do realize how old the hero is right lol
Yea.... And yea.. I know its a useless mission. But not one person alive can say I didn't try to revive it yet once again. I'm a stubborn one. Since I know my time with the heroc is coming to close maybe this is how I say goodbye in a way. I dunno.
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MattCrystal said:
Since I know my time with the heroc is coming to close maybe this is how I say goodbye in a way. I dunno.
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Wait, dont go yet, I have so many stupid questions that need answers...And who will be the Heavy?
lol! I remember the first time we got moved to low activity. Thats the day I bought the xda app, for some reason I thought that the free version no longer included the hero forum (what an idiot so I bought it and still couldn't find my forum. I finally got on my laptop and joined the ruckus. #occupyXDA to bring us back...again!
Matt = spartacus _--o_
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Soo how would we get out?
Porting more roms?
Complaining to Xda?
Because I'm all about this cause
Pstevep is a mod now...
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MattCrystal said:
but what if I'm wrong?
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I'll put you in your place.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
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lol! I remember the first time we got moved to low activity. Thats the day I bought the xda app, for some reason I thought that the free version no longer included the hero forum (what an idiot so I bought it and still couldn't find my forum. I finally got on my laptop and joined the ruckus. #occupyXDA to bring us back...again!
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I get enough talk about occupy at the university... Lol
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
Wow I thought this phone was dead
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Think again sir
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