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Do not apply PART2 OTA 2.1 update - If you need root.

I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg

May I ask why HEOR upgraded to official 2.1 OTA couldn't be rooted??
It is temporary unable or permanently??

Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?

@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.

good to know...thanks for hte info!

duck0 said:
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero

Wezternator said:
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
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Thx bro! I just upgraded to 2.1 OTA and trying to downgrade to 1.5, failed however...
Wait for good news

I think we need to make clear. What to do if.
I installed the first package (First OTA, PART 1, Youtube App update)?
Like I heard in develop, if I installed part 1 update, this stupid youtube update, i need downgrade.
I don't really understand why, and how to do that. I think many of noobs like me are interested, what to do now.
I have promted by my phone that 2.1 update is realeased, and I did not downlnoad it, because I would like to have root, to install in a future Android 2.2, etc.
If so, and i have Firmware build number 2.73.405.93, or 2.73.405.94, or 2.73.405.95. What should I do?
Please someone, write step by step action guide.
(Downgrade, root, install rooted 2.1?) If so, how exactly?
I also understand that, there is 100000000000 of guides out there, but IMHO we need new one for a while.
Situation with "not installed" OTA part 1 is little bit easier? Normal ROOT, and install for coocked, and rooted official 2.1?

polakscot said:
The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
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I guess so, but how likely is it that the hero's 2.1 firmware is different in this regard from anything else? A quick google confirmed that the InstantRoot method works on nexus one and motorola droid.
Edit: But a little longer google had me wondering if it does work on 2.1 again. Sorry, I should check more carefully. If anyone has tried it do step up.

Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

shadow_fi said:
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Correct, just run the RUU

can confirm, this works ...

What if I want to root it up to 2.2 (Froyo) that would be fine because it is like you are upgrading to newer firmware?

Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred

frederikk said:
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
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No... You are going to have to root.
But you can just back-up with something like MyBackUp-Pro

Ok but i silo bave to root what? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

andrewb84uk said:
Correct, just run the RUU
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what do you meen visit dev section?what is dev section?thanks.

frederikk said:
Ok but i will bave to root what ? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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I think i don't understand.
I'm with 1.5 rooted phone. If i update, i will be with a 2.1 phone non rooted. But is it possible to root the 2.1 ? I already have the boot menu with ramon ra recovery. So the update won't touch it ?
But in fact i change the date to june 2011 on my phone yesterday.. and i have no update notification
Ciao
Fred

shadow_fi said:
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
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I might be out of subject and truely I know nothing about rooting but I know by fact that downgrading from official 2.1 to official 1.5 took about 15 minutes to proceed on my unlocked Hero today..

HTC Wildfire will get Tough to Root after 2.2 Froyo Update

As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???

dungquoc said:
As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???
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Yes unrEVOked no longer works although as is the case with ANY update we can downgrade and use unrEVOked

Just install danne_Jo's ROM and forget about ruu and losing root.

42turkeys said:
Yes unrEVOked no longer works although as is the case with ANY update we can downgrade and use unrEVOked
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Can you downgrade this ROM? I had installed ROM and I can not downgrade ROM. UnrEVOked dont work, visionay and z4root dont work? Help me hack root.

dungquoc said:
Can you downgrade this ROM? I had installed ROM and I can not downgrade ROM. UnrEVOked dont work, visionay and z4root dont work? Help me hack root.
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What did visionary do? That should work :|
EDIT: looks like you've tried everything, however I have no sympathy for you, everyone is warned about accepting HTC updates and rooting
Also don't hold out hope of unrEVOked doing anything, to be brutally honest they couldn't care less about the Wildfire

42turkeys said:
What did visionary do? That should work :|
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Yes visionary dont work. I tried that app. hix. HELP...

Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.

rooting?
So means Unrevoked will not update to help poor guys updated to 2.2?
Are you sure maybe they will figure out something to provide it!

a1exander said:
Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.
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Please Show me the step?

a1exander said:
Download RUU and extract the ROM out of the .exe, then let it go through Android Kitchen and we got a Official ROM with root.
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Please, please tell me how! I have a thread on this, I debranded my phone but want to put t mobiles Rom back on but I get 'wrong bootloader'
Iv tried what u suggested but get 'bad zip'.
instructions would be soooo helpful
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

bassmonkey said:
Please, please tell me how! I have a thread on this, I debranded my phone but want to put t mobiles Rom back on but I get 'wrong bootloader'
Iv tried what u suggested but get 'bad zip'.
instructions would be soooo helpful
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115

a1exander said:
Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115
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Thank u 4 ur reply, however I want to put the stock t mobile Rom back on to my debeanded wildfire, in effect re-branding it, but when I try the ruu I get 'wrong bootloader' I can't find or seem to get any help as to how I solve this
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

bassmonkey said:
Thank u 4 ur reply, however I want to put the stock t mobile Rom back on to my debeanded wildfire, in effect re-branding it, but when I try the ruu I get 'wrong bootloader' I can't find or seem to get any help as to how I solve this
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They are exactly as the stock except for some stuff like Apps2SD added.

a1exander said:
They are exactly as the stock except for some stuff like Apps2SD added.
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I want all the t mobile branded, non rooted, no cool stuff added, bog standard crap so I can send it off 4 repair tho
even the most talented devs were noobs once... so there's hope for the rest of us!

a1exander said:
Just download one of these ROMs, just what I said has been done to them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879032
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878115
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The first, my wildfire dont root.
So the second, dont install that ROM. hix

Downgrade???
Do you think the technical staffs of HTC com can downgrade this ROM to OS 2.1? They invent the upgrade utility software, so do you think they can do downgrade???? I am going to the warranty my device. How do you think so?

I am wondering the same, what would happen when I try to flash the 1.37 RUU back on the phone?

If you have upgraded to the offical Froyo either OTA or from RUU your stuck in a hole.
The update changed the bootloader in the Wildfire meaning it is currently impossible to root (which rules out custum ROMS) and you can't role back to a previous RUU because they are written with the old boot loader.
Thats what the original OP of this thread is about.....the fact that it could be a while before it's going to get re rooted via unrevoked or any other method.
So your just gonna have to wait until rooting is supported again by Unrevoked or some other app, or some clever sod figures out how to change the new Boot loader.

Hope someone figures it out soon :/

dungquoc said:
As per a forum member of XDA-Developers , he states that HTC Wildfire Which is soon to get its Official 2.2 Froyo Update , Is a good news for some , but will give tough times to others , other uses who wish to Root their Android Device.
In Details warriorvibhu Explains that HTC Wildfire will be provided with a OTA Update with HBoot , a Bootloader which would be harder to crack / modify in order to Root the device.
What do you think about this???
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I had Warned abt this 4 months back.. check here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744927

My Wildfire with 2.2.1

I have rooted and upgraded my Wildfire to 2.2.1 from 2.1, worked fine and still does, but i have lost root.
I have read that i cant use the "unrevoked method" yet to get root back as it wont work with Froyo. Is this true or is it safe to do so.
If I cant use that method then can anyone suggest another way.
Thanks and be gentle as i am new to android.

magpie22 said:
I have rooted and upgraded my Wildfire to 2.2.1 from 2.1, worked fine and still does, but i have lost root.
I have read that i cant use the "unrevoked method" yet to get root back as it wont work with Froyo. Is this true or is it safe to do so.
If I cant use that method then can anyone suggest another way.
Thanks and be gentle as i am new to android.
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Hi, if you updated with OTA update (official) or with RUU, you can't root. We have to wait until some depeloper find out the way to root the new HBOOT.

I updated with a file called signed_121810_120233.zip if that helps.
Anyone know about that file, if its official or RUU

magpie22 said:
I updated with a file called signed_121810_120233.zip if that helps.
Anyone know about that file, if its official or RUU
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I'm downloading it to see if it has the new HBOOT. Give me a minute
EDIT: It doesn't contain the new HBOOT, so you should be able to root. Trying Unrevoked is safe. If you had the new HBOOT, it would hang, but you wouldn't have any problem.
For what I read, you haven't run Unrevoked yet. Do it.

Thank you for your time and effort, i will try it later tonight when i get back home.
Will post and tell you the outcome.
Thanks

magpie22 said:
Thank you for your time and effort, i will try it later tonight when i get back home.
Will post and tell you the outcome.
Thanks
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Great

Ok that did not work, it went through the process but said failed to get root, and asked if firmware was to new?

magpie22 said:
Ok that did not work, it went through the process but said failed to get root, and asked if firmware was to new?
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You have done this in the same computer you did the time it worked, right? For the HBOOT drivers in windows and all these things.
Looking at the zip you sent me, you should be able to root, but I guess that if you lost root, there is something that made you lose it. :S
If you want to try to get root anyway, try Unrevoked in Ubuntu. If not, Superoneclick, or Z4root.
But doesn't look good to root by now... :S

Yeah the exact same pc that i first used to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
Is Z4 safe to use

magpie22 said:
Yeah the exact same pc that i first used to go from 2.1 to 2.2.
Is Z4 safe to use
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Yes, the worst thing that can happen is that the phone is slow until you reboot, if it can't get root. But htese methods are Temp root. It would be just to see if you can get root access, which I doubt at the moment.

Thanks for your help, i think i will just wait until unrevoked gets updated.

magpie22 said:
Thanks for your help, i think i will just wait until unrevoked gets updated.
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That's what I have to do, I'm in a similar situation for stupidly installing Froyo RUU...

If you notice an update to unrevoked can you PM me and let me know?

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If you notice an update to unrevoked can you PM me and let me know?
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Of course. I just tried with v3.31, which must be the version you tried. I got your same error.
I will let you know. It must be near, because in v3.3 changelog they say "No update for Wildfire yet, sorry", so they are working on it.

[Q] unrEVOked 3 root

Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?

* They will release it when they want to. We have no option or control over them. If they want to try, it is their wish, if they don't want to try, again it is their wish. Live with it.
* If you are already on 2.2.1, there's no point disabling search for updates because it is extremely unlikely there will be any.
*Sigh*, why cant you read already existing threads before creating another one? Is it too hard?

omfg! seems like you have disabled search function for this forum, this topic gets posted at least once a day

jayvaidya96 said:
Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo

chubby65 said:
just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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How did you do this ?

I was told that if we make a new thread everyday about it they will update it!!

bigbossa said:
How did you do this ?
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho

chubby65 said:
when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.

3xeno said:
WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?

chubby65 said:
so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.

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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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dont know how i managed it but thats what i've done

If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.

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If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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when i went back to the stock rom it was deffo 2.2.1 i put the wildpuzzle rom straight over the top of it

Not possible. There is some error in communication somewhere, but, if it were possible to directly put Custom ROMs over the official 2.2.1, we wouldnt have had threads like this everyday.

unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone

ephbee said:
unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again

chubby65 said:
no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD

Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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tell me how to share and i will

Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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this is the rom i used to get the 2.2 upgrade http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF2TWEHJ

But isn't it possible to modify oryginal rom from HTC to downgrade HBOOT , and then make Wildfire rootable? Or make some crash in HBOOT witch will allow to root? That's a lot of ways, is it possible that HTC make Wildfire really unrootable on 2,2,1? That they make unlockable bootloader? Like a motorola?

[Q] Root....?

When will the mytouch 4g 2.3.4 be rooted?! I read on October 1 that it'll be rooted "in the coming weeks"...its nearly November. Anyone have any updates at all? Or will 2.3.4 never be rooted? Thank you for all of your help!

likely never

billcosby41 said:
When will the mytouch 4g 2.3.4 be rooted?! I read on October 1 that it'll be rooted "in the coming weeks"...its nearly November. Anyone have any updates at all? Or will 2.3.4 never be rooted? Thank you for all of your help!
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it will come out when the developers release it.

it'll be rooted when you downgrade to 2.2.1 :X
j/k or whenever, dunno how much progress/work people have been making on developing it

downgrade
I have tried that available link to downgrade but all in vain. i successfully got temp root but not able to perem root. so when i put downgraded stock rom, recieving message newer version is there and visionary is not helpful in my case.
Any idea how to do that .
The only reason i want to root is my camera . i dont know what happened to it. but whenever i try to use my camera it ended up in blank screen.
I am not good in that but thinking to change the rom maybe it resolve my problem
Any help / guidance thanks in advance.

amir_goo said:
I have tried that available link to downgrade but all in vain. i successfully got temp root but not able to perem root. so when i put downgraded stock rom, recieving message newer version is there and visionary is not helpful in my case.
Any idea how to do that .
The only reason i want to root is my camera . i dont know what happened to it. but whenever i try to use my camera it ended up in blank screen.
I am not good in that but thinking to change the rom maybe it resolve my problem
Any help / guidance thanks in advance.
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What do you mean newer version? Are you following the downgrade guide that requires adb to push, execute some files, and flash all by adb. When you downgrade, you don't simply flash the pd15img.zip you should follow the guide.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Look in my signature, see a link to Wiki. Open it, go to section "Root", subsection "Gingerbread 2.3.4". There will be a guide which needs to be executed IN FULL.

Try and read this with caution NOT ME OR THE PERSON WHO MADE THIS IS REPONSIBLE... it has a one click downgrade and a one click root.. after all that is down, there's a root version of gingerbread available... one step at a time...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1270561