Video stutters in Hardware Mode - Epic 4G General

When I play avi(maybe other formats too) movies in Stock Video Player or Vital Player in "hardware mode" videos stutter every minute or so.At first I thought that it might be just one movie but I tried few different vids and they all do that.
Anyone else have this problem?Im on latest Bonsai Ext4 rom.Maybe I removed some apk's needed for smooth playback or changed SetCPU settings but I dont think my Epic did that before.
I usualy wouldnt complain but in Vital Player's "software mode" colors look way too bland-like watching vids on lcd,huge difference,lol.
Is this just Bonsai rom bug or what?
UPDATE SOLVED:I set my SetCPU to "performance" mode instead of "conservative" and no more stuttering!Lol,my phone seems to run way smoother now,all these months with my Epic and I dint know what great effect one simple setting can have.
UPDATE 2:Apparently videos only stutter when im downloading files while playing videos,i should have known that.Oh well,no downloading movies while watching movies.
I wonder why playng movies in "Software Mode" on Vital Player dont have that problem,downloading while playing doesnt cause sturrering.

lviv73 said:
When I play avi(maybe other formats too) movies in Stock Video Player or Vital Player in "hardware mode" videos stutter every minute or so.At first I thought that it might be just one movie but I tried few different vids and they all do that.
Anyone else have this problem?Im on latest Bonsai Ext4 rom.Maybe I removed some apk's needed for smooth playback or changed SetCPU settings but I dont think my Epic did that before.
I usualy wouldnt complain but in Vital Player's "software mode" colors look way too bland-like watching vids on lcd,huge difference,lol.
Is this just Bonsai rom bug or what?
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AVI is a container.not a format..common formats used with AVI is xvid and divx...which is it and what version?
Also have you tried the stock media player?
I so far played almost every format imaginable with no issues..but I am on stock..

gTen said:
AVI is a container.not a format..common formats used with AVI is xvid and divx...which is it and what version?
Also have you tried the stock media player?
I so far played almost every format imaginable with no issues..but I am on stock..
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It was on Xvid and Divx on stock media player.I fixed it by setting SetCPU to "Performance" mode,now no more stuttering and everything is so much smoother!
Dint know that SetCPU modes have greater impact on performance than setting cpu frequencies.
Update:Stuttering occurs only when downloading files while playin videos.If played in "Software mode" stuttering doesnt occur period.

lviv73 said:
It was on Xvid and Divx on stock media player.I fixed it by setting SetCPU to "Performance" mode,now no more stuttering and everything is so much smoother!
Dint know that SetCPU modes have greater impact on performance than setting cpu frequencies.
Update:Stuttering occurs only when downloading files while playin videos.If played in "Software mode" stuttering doesnt occur period.
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Performance Governor = Max CPU Speed (1GHz in our case).
When using hardware acceleration, the CPU utilization is likely to be less than software mode which results in lower CPU speed in hardware mode than when using software mode. What is likely occuring is in software mode, the CPU is running at a speed fast enough to process the downloaded files and video simultaneously, whereas in hardware mode, the CPU speed is a bit too low to handle both downloading and video which leads to stuttering... and the CPU load isn't high enough to ramp the CPU speed up to the next level.

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video not playing in p3400

I recently bought a P3400, it says it supports video playing. But when i play a *.avi, media player throws an error "can not play this file". How do I play video on my phone? Pls help.
video player
try core player
Try TCPMP coreplayer.It is freely available and much better the windows media player in the pocketpc. It can play full 3 hrs movie whereas windows media player starts crying while opening large files.
core player works fine for me while playing .avi files. but it stutters while playing h264(mp4,mkv) encoded files. does anyone know of any codec or any setttings for the smooth playing of these files.
swordfish123 said:
core player works fine for me while playing .avi files. but it stutters while playing h264(mp4,mkv) encoded files. does anyone know of any codec or any setttings for the smooth playing of these files.
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Just overclock your device while playing heavy movies. It plays smoothly for me, while overclocking.
Another option is, converting the movies to a bit lower clarity. You can use "Youtube Downloader" software, which has got a very good conversion tool. Convert your existing MP4 (or any other) movie to the same type with "optimal" setting. After that movie plays smoothly on P3400i, without even overclocking. In this case too, clarity is also not tampered at all, in fact, it is good.
dheerajk27 said:
Just overclock your device while playing heavy movies. It plays smoothly for me, while overclocking.
Another option is, converting the movies to a bit lower clarity. You can use "Youtube Downloader" software, which has got a very good conversion tool. Convert your existing MP4 (or any other) movie to the same type with "optimal" setting. After that movie plays smoothly on P3400i, without even overclocking. In this case too, clarity is also not tampered at all, in fact, it is good.
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Can u mention the tool you use to overclock your device. And how much do i overclock it. The current clock speed is 201 Mhz. Doesnt overclocking cause any heating problems??
Overclocking
use HomeScreen Plus Plus
Is superb

Coreplayer 1.3.6 Judder - stock ROM 1.48 (SOLVED)

I've done a search and read many posts about coreplayer performance on the HD2. Most have no problems but some do and i'm one of them.
I have no problem playing the files using these settings from member Shasarak (thanks mate):
Options/Video and activate Dither, then "smooth zoom always" rather than "smooth zoom 50%". You will get substantially better performance if you then go into the DirectDraw settings page, choose "YUY2" as your overlay format, leave "use device stretching" checked, and uncheck the other two boxes.
I have tried all other settings and combinations but i agree the above gives the best performance.
However, i am still experiencing occassional judder and it's annoying me.
1). would upgrading to stock ROM 1.66 make a difference?
2). is there ANYTHING else i can do to stop the judder? i've already tried disabling background tasks, wifi etc
3). The audio is also very slightly out of sync, it's delayed, it's minor but i notice it. It happens on all videos, they are all .avi I've not seen anyone complain of this before.
Thanks
With regards to uadio sync:
Menu --> Tools --> Settings
Select the 'Advanced' page
Manual A/V offset let's you adjust the audio sync
The judder is most likely due to the format the videos are encoded in just eating too much CPU. How do you encode them?
kilrah said:
The judder is most likely due to the format the videos are encoded in just eating too much CPU. How do you encode them?
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I don't encode them, just downloaded movies in the common divx/xvid format. I played movies on my old N96but re-encoded them to mp4 as it didn't play avi and i never tried coreplayer on it.
Perhaps i should try re-encoding, but don't see why this phone couldn't handle a standard 700mb divx avi.
kr00t0n said:
With regards to uadio sync:
Menu --> Tools --> Settings
Select the 'Advanced' page
Manual A/V offset let's you adjust the audio sync
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cheers mate, you are the man! putting a -0.300 has made it much better, not sure why it would be out like that on all movies? I'm very happy with that What do the other 2 settings do - soft drop tolerance & hard drop tolerance?
now just to fix the juddering.
I've found, and i think someone else suggested this in another thread, that if you pause it for a moment it sorts itself out. Would rather not have to do that but i don't see a way around it
jonbaker76 said:
Perhaps i should try re-encoding, but don't see why this phone couldn't handle a standard 700mb divx avi.
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The standard ~1h30 700MB divx movies I've tried to play all worked nicely. But sorter ones of the same size (meaning more bitrate) could start being too much load. Just try and do a benchmark in coreplayer with a video that causes problems, if you have less than about 150% average playing speed you might start getting drops.
It may help to put the phone in "Airplane Mode"; if it's checking for email messages in the background while playing it will judder like crazy. Use the task manager to kill off any other running applications as well....
I come to the conclusion that this phone just can not handle playing divx/xvid in avi very well, and i'm not sure why it can't.
I have gone back to my old ways of converting the video to mp4 using winavi mp4 converter, this also cures the problem of any files that have ac3 audio as it converts that as well.
On my 8 year old computer it would take 30 mins to convert a 700mb film, i have since bought a quad core Dell running 64 bit windows 7 and it converts in less than 10 mins!!
Smooth as butter now but a shame i have to go back to doing this. But at least the files will play in coreplayer, windows media and htc's player so plenty of choice
If anyone wants the settings i use for winavi mp4 converter then just ask away. It's not free but mine was if you get what i mean
EDIT:
I HAVE FOUND THE REAL PROBLEM, IT'S MY COREPLAYER! IT STARTED STUTTERING THE MP4 FILE THIS MORNING, WHEN I SWITCHED TO WINDOWS MEDIA OR HTC PLAYER IT WAS FINE 9OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T DO THIS BEFORE AS NEITHER OF THOSE PLAYERS SUPPORT AVI)
I JUST TRIED COREPLAYER AGAIN AND IT'S PLAYINNG THE SAME MP4 FILE FINE NOW, MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COREPLAYER, WILL GET ANOTHER VERSION.
WHAT A DRAMA AND SORRY FOR BORING YOU ALL WITH IT LOL

HTC Videos vs RockPlayer

I just noticed for the first time that HTC Video supports AVI files. I have been using RockPlayer in Software mode with success, but it kills battery like crazy.
RockPlayer is smoother, but I wonder how HTC's battery use compares.
I will of course find out for myself, but I wonder what other people have experienced
SRS enhancement is a plus
how about vplayer
That will also be software based, so probably the same. The native player should be hardware mode, but is pretty choppy with standard "scene" video files. I'll do a test run this week to see how the battery usage compares
well the native player is hardware accelerated or at least it is for .mp4 with x254 video i havnt tried avi but i would assume that it would also be hardware accelerated or at least the renderer would be. alternative players are usless cause they dont support hardware on the adreno 205 yet
Hardware accelerated yes, but software players are still smoother!
just used "power tutor" to compare power used during one Simpson episode using two players.
According to "power tutor" the Internal video player used about half the power that RockPlayer did (with HW acc enabled)
Yes, I know this is not the perfect comparison.
The total power used should be measured, in case one offloads much more to the hardware than the other one.
An perfect comparison should be:
-boot
-radio off
-start measuring total power consumption
-play video for xx minutes
-stop measuring power consumption.
Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?
When I put a video on my SD card, it appears in stock player but with no screenshot, only some weird small icon. Selecting the video does nothing at all.
Eddie1506 said:
Guys, how do you manage to play xvid with built in video player?.
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Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.
I think Vplayer.beta is the best so far however it doesn't allow me to change audio channels but it was a lot smoother than rock player when playing a dual audio track; also seems to eat battery life. otherwise rock player is great.
AlCapone said:
Who plays Xvid ? - the simpsons episodes are H264 with MPEG4 AAC audio -both preview & playback work fine.
what we need - is players like VLC, core-player or tcpmp for Android. - VLC - being open-source & up-to-date - would be absolutely best.
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Sorry, my bad

[Q] Cant convert videos for playback

I have long since had a problem with converting videos for playbakc on my HD2 running Froyo. I have read numerous guides, tried every codec on the planet, and have used 8+ video conversion utilities, yet every single time my HD2 just says it cant play back the files. It plays the Transformers movies just fine, and any videos recorded with the video camera too. But if I try to rip a dvd or something, it just wont play back.
Can anyone offer any help here? What is likely the underlying problem? Is a codec thing? Are all these conversion utilities slipping in their random codecs chosen by the dev's and none of them are compatible with the EVO video player?
Very frustrating. I have gone through about 60 gigs in failed conversion attempts. And probably running the life of my SD card in the process.
Download Rockplayer from here...
http://rockplayer.freecoder.org/index_en.html
Go for the ARM7 link on the right. It's probably the best player out there for HD2s running Android.
I dont like rockplayer because they put their logo on every video which is annoying. But I tried it anyway and it didnt work.
Finally found an app to encode to HD2 format. Xmedia Recode has a template built specifically for the HD2. But make sure to retweak the encoding parameters, as they are set too low. Namely use H.264 compression, and increase the bitrate to 1500. Should produce a nice 1:1 conversion of whatever you are attempting to convert.
Dude you have no need to set the bitrate that high for a device with small screen, hell a standard 700MB DVDRip isnt even that high a bitrate.
I tried several bitrates in between, and with each gradual increase there was less and less artifacting on the screen. It was especially noticeable during fast scenes with lots of movement.

Poor video Playback.

Hi,
It seems to me that the HTC HD suffers from poor video playback among other performance problems, I didn't know devices this new were affected by this problem as I remember there was a Class Action website concerning some affected devices with poor playback.
I have even used this program which supposedly will encode videos to play well on the HD : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Used the factory settings, and video glitched and froze in many spots, also went out of sync many times. Used default bit rate settings. Tried playing in both "Album" and Windows Media Player, same problems
Seeing how the HD plays this video I wouldn't even consider trying Coreplayer with Divx/Xvid.
Is there any drivers/fixes to improve video playback or upgrades in certain ROM/Firmware releases?
Thanks.
that is over all a difficult question, because it consists of many aspects.
first of all, that program uses high bitrates and if it converts to wmv, a poor codec. if you take regular 624 x 352 16:9 xvid files, performance is higher. that's the 2nd thing: you said, after seeing album and wmp perform this bad, you wouldn't even give tcpmp or coreplayer a chance. but actually, they do much better in general, after all, you have way more options to optimize playback depending on bitrate and resolution. you could set the buffering and use options like "override avi framrate based on audio", "prefer lookup tables over arithmetic" and "prefer less buffering over smooth video" to get it to work to your demands.
and of course there are many ways to tweak the performance even further: you can of course try different radio roms and corresponding rilphone versions, different roms (which come with different tweaks cooked in by the respective chefs), or even go further and play around with different drivers, like neo2007's driver pack, or use gfxboost, winmospeed, hdtweak...
i have absolutely no problem playing regular xvid files (as stated above: 624 x 352 xvid, overall bitrate just above 1000kbit/s, 175MB per 22 minutes) absolutely smoothly on my blackstone with audio synced at all points. and that way, i don't even need to convert the videos.
as you can see, it is not done by a single tweak to make them run, maybe you need to switch the codec, the player, the rom and make a lot of settings, but if you want proper video playback, it shouldn't be too much for the result you get. also have a look at the codec info i posted, they are very commonly used.
Hi,
I've tried NEO's driver pack, doesn't seem to help, it was a cab file that I installed, I think it said that those drivers dont improve video playback but are more for improving touchflo and 3d performance? i may be wrong.
That program encoded to AVC I don't think it used WMV (or is it pretty much the same codec?).
Just wondering how do Radio ROMS affect the video playback? I thought the radio rom is for the Phone/GPRS operation?
Also how do tweaks on ROMS affect the playback, I thought it was limited to that the processor simply cannot do the work to make the video play smooth as there doesn't seem to be any dedicated graphics/video chip? Do chefs do tweaks on how the OS uses it's memory? Just wondering what sort of tweaks they are but this might not be a simple answer.
I'm surprised how xvid @ 1000k plays well on your blackstone, hmm. Seems my playback method on coreplayer is "QTV" is that the video accelerator on the Qualcomm Chipset ?
xvid video at 830k at 608 x 400 plays borderline on my blackstone on coreplayer, when Panning on movies it jerks. 1778 frames played, dropped 551.
I would have thought preffer less buffering over smooth video would make the video rougher? going to the description of that option.
I tried ticking those options you suggested, they only slightly improve the playback, however i tried this suggestion from another thread :
"For touch HD, just tick "Disable AVC Deblocking" at advanced tab, "soft drop tolerance" to 0.3 sec, and let other settings defaults. Enjoy your hardware-like video player."
Seems to help the most out of any suggestion but still jerks sometimes.
I'll look into winmospeed to see if it can do anything to speed up my video playback and my device, but not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
What is a safe speed to run at?
which driver pack to use depends on which rom you are using, some roms already come with a driver pack and installing another one makes the device slower rather than faster. the drivers, as you correctly pointed out, generally affect the 3d performance, however, it is about hardware acceleration and some players use hardware acceleration, which should be the same chip, the gpu.
you might be right, the program might encode in avc, just had a brief look at the screenshot, and as you mentioned windows media player, which supports almost no codecs i just assumed, it would go for wmv. as already pointed out, i don't encode my files for the phone. too much work for watching once. instead of re-encoding, i could watch them on the pc instead.
radio roms don't affect video playback directly. they do more than just handling phone calls and wireless communications though, radios are the bridge between the winmo OS and the hardware, so also bluetooth, wi-fi, camera, sound and many more things are influenced. but most of all i mentioned it, because i went through a lot of roms recently, beginning with the latest orange uk stock rom and on every single one of them i experienced an improvement in performance, when i used the newest radio 1.17.25.09 with them, with corresponding rilphone. many cooked roms have specific rilphone versions cooked in, and the radio should match for the entire device to work properly.
as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of work and tweaking, to make new builds and sense versions run properly on this rather slow device. many chefs point out to have compressed a lot of graphic files and optimized cache sizes, pagepool...
some of these tweaks can also be altered with hdtweak.
at the moment i use tcpmp cooked into the energy rom and i believe avc deblocking was ticked by default, or else i would have mentioned it, but i also read before, that it should stay ticked on for better performance.
for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33 while playing 3d hd2 games, which are generally very slow on the blackstone. having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long time anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
Chef_Tony said:
for winmospeed i mostly set it to level 32 or 33...... having it permanently set to level 33 causes the phone to freeze sometimes, so that speed seems to be the borderline.
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agreed.. level 33 = 633mhz is borderline..
a hell of a lot faster than normal 528mhz!
set to level 33 does make the device crash sometimes but not often, i personaly recomend level 33 regardless..
1/10 times it will crash, in my experience its on device first boot after customisation. soft reset and all is ok.
it could be my rom though haha - i joke!
kidcash said:
not sure how the Qaulcomm CPU copes with overclocking, especially stability and reliability.
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overclocking is completely safe dude, already read up on this before i even tried it when it was released.. so to save you reading, just download it, its worth it
Chef_Tony said:
if nothing else helps (and that included trying other roms), you could also disable sense, when you watch videos, if it is so important to you. when watching tv shows or movies, you are not using sense for a rather long Dtime anyway and it really hogs ram and cpu.
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lol, in that case dissable everything thats running to free up all your memory
Chef_Tony said:
as i have never cooked a rom, i certainly can't tell you any of the chefs' secrets, but i assume it takes a lot of*
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*of headf*cks and facepalms! haha
i honestly thought you was a chef untill i seen that, ya got the perfect name though
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