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Divx play back performance on the shift under vista

Hi Folks,
I haven't bought the shift yet but I'm certainly leaning heavily in that direction.
Can you please tell me about your experiences playing Divx video using the shift? I'm hearing mixed messages about the video capabilities of the machine some are saying it's no good for this some are saying it's fine which is it?
Please note I'm not talking about utube or wmv I'm talking divx avi files I would like to use this as a media player.
Cheers, Chris

I have the K-lite codec pack installed including Media Player Clasic (K-Lite Mega Codec Pack).
The Divx I used played verry shoothly, I do not exactly know how this file was encoded. It was just an episode of a TV series that I missed and downloaded to watch on the train. (350Mb for 50 minutes...)
Greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.

facdemol said:
it does play divx well. Never had problems. The real question, can it play mkv files? I'm trying that in windows xp (no chance in vista i suppose) and i get some huge lags between sound and image.
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Did you try VLC?
Huib
Floreasca, Bucharest

Better use vlc: excellent performance, and no codec pack that can wreak havoc on your system

i've used gome player and media player classic, both configured to use "above average" process priority but no fun. gome has it's own internal codec system, only added matroska mkv codec.
I'll check what VLC has to offer.

I run VLC on my Shift and the only degradation I have seen on it is in full screen mode on the 1024x600 resolution. Definitely recommend VLC on the Shift.

I have a better experience with this:
Use Media Player Classic Home Cinema from here.
It has in the options the "EVR" Video Output which has a better image quality and lower CPU usage under Vista. And the GUI is better than VLC's ^^
And for the codecs I use the ffdshow tryouts.
I recommend clsid's latest Intel Compiler 10 builds, because they have a little performance improvement when using some post-processing filters.

Problems playing .avi on my Touch HD

Hi I've just received my HD and overall I'm very impressed. I was a smartphone user previously so I’m having to come to terms with TouchFlo and Windows Mobile all at the same time!
The only real problem I’m having is playing .avi video. I've transferred an .avi file to my memory card but it won't play in CorePlayer (need the AC3 codec I think) and TCPMP doesn't load (get a crash screen) and mobile divx plays the video but it’s a mess on the screen.
I've even tried to encode the video file with PocketDivXEncoder but I think this needs TCPMP to play and it looks terrible in Mobile Divx.
So my question is how do I successfully play an .avi as this is one of the main reasons I bought my HD.
Also one further question with appointments in the calendar when I get a reminder the notification pop up doesn't appear till I click on the alarm icon at the top of the screen - is this due to touchflo and can you force WM6.1 to always show the notification - I’m finding I’m forgetting about meetings because of this!
Thanks in advance of your help.
JM

I've tried playing avi (divx) files with great success. I have been using CorePlayer (v1.2.5). Maybe you should try another video file? it should work

Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?

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Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?
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I now see your problem, I had originally tried only avi movies with mp3 audio (like most of my videos). I tested it with a file with AC3 audio and it appears that CorePlayer doesnt have that codec.
Guess your only option with movies with AC3 audio is to convert them, or you might be able to get an AC3 codec somewhere.

So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?

JetMouse said:
So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?
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You could try the freeware video converter program 'SUPER'.
SUPER allows you to convert easily many aspects of a video including size, frame rate, format of video and audio, etc.
I use it all the time to convert my camera videos for use with my Hard Drive TV Media Player.
Don't try and download it from the developers web site it's a minefield in how to get the program.
Instead get it direct from Download.com here:-
http://www.download.com/Super-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10277613.html
Beards

I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?

yes please, can handle a typical rip of 350mb tv show or 700mb movie without problems?

Insaneboy said:
I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?
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It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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Could you share the FPS and bitrate please?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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This is exactly whay i'm trying to do - can you tell me which video player you used?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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How did you manage that, mines plays the videos but they are jerky, seems like it's caching the film. I've even tried same file on iphone & hd, iphone was much smoother. what am i doing wrong??
Peter.

I've got to agree here with edwardscdr. I have no problem whatsoever in playing .avi files using Core Player 1.2.5
I believe the problem that others are having is down to what software and system associated files individuals have installed on their Phone. These could be effecting the performance of the playback.
It's a bit extreme but one sure way of finding out the problem is to hard reset the device and install ONLY Core Player (I personally did this when I first received my Touch HD).
Next transfer a video/movie file and play it........ Do you notice any improvements?
If so then at least you know it's down to what was previously installed.
To then eliminate the culprit that was causing the problem is to install software titles one-by-one and on each occasion check the playback of the video.
When it changes and no longer runs smoothly then BANG.... you have your culprit.
Beards

its the ac3, core player can't play it
i wish i can convert the audio via super...

sound can be changed, the audio codecs will show different results when using a different container, im just used to the .mp4 container so i didnt see an audio codec change to mp3

AC3 will play on the old TCPMP beta, the screen is buggy (missing buttons etc) but it does work. If you set up file extensions (in the options settings in both apps) to play on different media players you won't have any trouble (eg: AC3 plays on TCPMP, divx/xvid plays very well on Coreplayer).
The only videos i have trouble playing are in the H264 codec, but that's not a surprise as it is an advanced codec that can make some older desktops slow down.
As far as I am aware, the only media player that takes advantage of hardware acceleration is the built in media player with the HD. For optimum video playback you'd probably want to convert your video files with a third party app into mp4, BUT as an experienced heavy user of video files I find that a combo of Coreplayer, TCPMP and the built in player works just fine for nearly all occasions.
Hope this helps.

the videos are kinda bit pixelated also in tcpmp, the play buttons are center below but u cant see them until u click them ahha

HD Video playback-Slow lag

I am having a lag problem playing some HD videos on my Xperia with Jack's 3.4 Med rom using Coreplayer 1.3.
Videos I tried:
Transformers 2 HD Trailer (852x355, 2643kbps, 23fps)
The Prodigy-Omen (1000x432, 2663 kbps, 25fps) (800x480, 1200kbps, 25fps)
The highest quality sample at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3045216&postcount=2
Plays all the regular videos/movies fine (Prodigy-Omen at 400x240, 644kbps, 23fps)
I tried directdraw and qtv with tytn II driver mode enabled.
How can I solve the HD playback problem?
Thanks.
EDIT: O MY GOODNESS!
I just saw the sticky on the top of the page...I feel so silly.
Thanks all.

If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.

CorePlayer can't use hardware video acceleration...
IMO, the best way is to use TouchHD video converter to recode video and use Windows Player to watch them
Windows Player can use hardware video acceleration

thelucius said:
If you are converting the video to mp4, than you should better use WMP, so that you can utilize vga's acceleration. Even with acceleration I really doubt that you can play 852x355, 2643kbps with no lag or missing frames. And if you use coreplayer, than you will get even slower playback performance. I can't even play xvid 640x352 800kbps without frame losses on coreplayer.
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I recode video with touchHD converter and use windows player
I can watch Iron Man ( 800*336, MPEG-4 AVC 0.7 to 1.2Mbps, AAC 2.0 128Kbps) with no loss frames and no lag

At CorePlayer you can change buffering under settings that help a lot

the x1 can hardly handle standard def

Ohhh, thanks for all the tips.
Used TouchHD video converter and did them into MP4 but WMP says it can't load codec, really aching my processors...

Coreplayer plays my videos more smoothly than wmp ever does.

[Q] MPlayer on Android

Has anybody tried a new mplayer for android? Is it worth of giving it a try?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mplayer-ported-for-android/
There are people even with tablets (A101) satisfied with it in the diskussion thread.

tobr said:
Has anybody tried a new mplayer for android? Is it worth of giving it a try?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/mplayer-ported-for-android/
There are people even with tablets (A101) satisfied with it in the diskussion thread.
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I'm a bit disappointed with the mplayer. I have several clips which I could play with the Toshiba Mediaplayer and these did not work very well in the mplayer.
I should mention that the clips were 720p and 1080p, but when played with the Toshiba Mediaplayer (which use hardware acceleration) the Folio plays them without breaking any sweat.
I think we have to wait for a video player that use the Tegra 2 hardware instead of using the CPU to decode mkv.

Yes, I did some testing myself and I was disappointed with the quality. Normal SD AVIs from web were pixelized. There was no antialias or smoothing. The pixels of video were just magnified.
Rockplayer with HW support produced much better output.
Maybe for some formats not supported with rockplayer. Lets hope that in some future release it would be better. I didn't make any changes into config file maybe if I applied some filters, the result would be different.

mddsd said:
I should mention that the clips were 720p and 1080p, but when played with the Toshiba Mediaplayer (which use hardware acceleration) the Folio plays them without breaking any sweat.
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Did you use a usb disk to play the clips from or did you try from a UPnP server? I am asking because I haven't been able to play any mkv from wifi connection with clips on my nas as the toshiba player always crashes

gohanSS said:
Did you use a usb disk to play the clips from or did you try from a UPnP server? I am asking because I haven't been able to play any mkv from wifi connection with clips on my nas as the toshiba player always crashes
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It's not possible to play mkv-files with the Toshiba Mediaplayer.
The clips I played are either in MOV or MP4-format.

ok, tnx. I'll have to wait too for a better media player

gohanSS said:
ok, tnx. I'll have to wait too for a better media player
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Rockplayer read all formats. You choise hard or soft decoding.
For me is the best player

bmi44 said:
Rockplayer read all formats. You choise hard or soft decoding.
For me is the best player
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I haven't managed to get any player to play HD x264 mkv's properly. Mostly they don't even start or are just really choppy. Some have options for HW/SW decoding, but still nothing.
Tested so far (latest versions): Vitalplayer, Vplayer, Yxplayer, Rockplayer, Act1 player, Default gallery, ES file manager movie player.
Any suggestions? Running Foliomod 1.3d

Ezzy77 said:
I haven't managed to get any player to play HD x264 mkv's properly. Mostly they don't even start or are just really choppy. Some have options for HW/SW decoding, but still nothing.
Tested so far (latest versions): Vitalplayer, Vplayer, Yxplayer, Rockplayer, Act1 player, Default gallery, ES file manager movie player.
Any suggestions? Running Foliomod 1.3d
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Mplayer seems to play most .MKV files, but framerate is really poor. Anyone found any working solutions for HD video playback?

Ezzy77 said:
Mplayer seems to play most .MKV files, but framerate is really poor. Anyone found any working solutions for HD video playback?
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No not at the moment, but there are a few which in time could be intresting.
CorePlayer is one that I think will be able to play MKV, this due to the fact that they have their own codecs which are very effective and they use the hardware better. But its awfully quiet in the CoreCodec Forum.
They showed of their Android CorePlayer at CES in January.
Another one is the Video Player for the LG Optimus 2x which should support playing MKV in 1080p using the Tegra hardware. The problem here is to port the application to our Folio which has not been that successful. But this is something that could change over time.
More and more manufacturers are using the Tegra platform so I think it's just a matter of time before we se MKV support i several of them and perhaps they could be ported to our Folio.
As mentioned before you could use the MOV format and play video in 1080p without any problem using the Toshiba Media Player or the video player which comes with the Gallery.
But you would probably need to convert your video-files to the Mov format and that is one thing that I for one find a bit tedious.

mddsd said:
As mentioned before you could use the MOV format and play video in 1080p without any problem using the Toshiba Media Player or the video player which comes with the Gallery.
But you would probably need to convert your video-files to the Mov format and that is one thing that I for one find a bit tedious.
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Yeah, that's not an option =) I'll just wait or sell the Folio for another Tegra 2 device probably. Thanks!

Using FolioMod 1.4 and the Toshiba Media Player I can play MKV (720p, [email protected]) with almost the right speed. So there must be room for other improvements.
I really don't want to transcode every episode of all series.
Don't have any problems with quick rewrite to another container format (mp4, m4v), because this is fast and I need to get rid of AC3 in favor of ACC, otherwise no sound

[Q] Best Media Player for TF

Does anyone have any suggestions for a media player for the TF? I would love it if it did the following:
Hides the taskbar - most important
Plays most common codecs - very important
Uses the docking station controls - important
Gesture controls - not too important
I downloaded MoboPlayer and it is great with the exception of not hiding the task bar. QQ Player for some reason is laggy on a 480 DiVX rip I made, but MoboPlayer is silky smooth.

To answer my own questions:
* There is currently no media player that removes the honeycomb taskbar
* I have yet to find a media player that uses the docking station controls other than the default
I guess I'll keep MoboPlayer until something better comes along.

Kilmar said:
To answer my own questions:
* There is currently no media player that removes the honeycomb taskbar
* I have yet to find a media player that uses the docking station controls other than the default
I guess I'll keep MoboPlayer until something better comes along.
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+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway

Pandora KM Player

funnycreature said:
+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway
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My issuw with moboplayer is that it dowsntfollow the system rotation. Ie using the Asus case, sometimes the image is upside down depending on how you place it.
-mark

rooted with you can at least get back the stock hc buttons. the white ones are too harsh and distract me when reading or watching movies. not a perfect solution but better than those frikken bright icons.

I have found moboplayer to be the best one so far. Vplayer advnace following second

does mobo player plays formats like mkv with subtitles in srt extension , avi and original dvd untouched rips?

I can confirm avi - no problems.
Mkv - well, high profile h264 is very slow. I didn't try subtitles.
The quality is somewhat strange, I noticed a strange grid of pixels on the video. I'll check if it's on every one. Also HDMI quality is very poor (looks like 256 colours).

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+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway
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Just download vplayer, haven't tried it. But supposedly it can play divx. Will try when I get home. But been using moboplayer myself

diomark said:
My issuw with moboplayer is that it dowsntfollow the system rotation. Ie using the Asus case, sometimes the image is upside down depending on how you place it.
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you can change that in the prefs.

madsquabbles said:
you can change that in the prefs.
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sorry, didnt mean to hi-jack the thread topic..but..
i have that auto-rotation issue with market and angry birds. markey opens only in landscape and angry birds in landscape in one direction only.

I'm still rocking rockplayer. It plays everything that I have thrown at it that the tegra can handle. ( so high profile still runs bad etc)

Magnesus said:
I can confirm avi - no problems.
Mkv - well, high profile h264 is very slow. I didn't try subtitles.
The quality is somewhat strange, I noticed a strange grid of pixels on the video. I'll check if it's on every one. Also HDMI quality is very poor (looks like 256 colours).
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what is high profile h264 means, sorry noobie here..
what about flac format audio files?

Tenny said:
I'm still rocking rockplayer. It plays everything that I have thrown at it that the tegra can handle. ( so high profile still runs bad etc)
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I can also confirm that rockplayer handles subtitle SRTs perfectly.

newtybar said:
I can also confirm that rockplayer handles subtitle SRTs perfectly.
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Does anyone know if you can play the subtitles on the hdmi output screen when i have downloaded the .srt seperatly (so not with burnin option from handbrake).
Very anoying that the subtitle plays on the screen of the tablet!

I tried moboplayer and rockplayer at first. And i managed to play MKV's smoothly, but only when started from the gallery. When I open the same mkv directly from moboplayer or rockplayer the movie didn't play smooth at all. So I tried mVideoPlayer. After i installed mVideoPlayer my mkv's play smooth anyway I open them. The best part is that the stockplayer plays MKV's as well after installing mVideoPlayer (but doesn't have support for subtitles).
But the main problem is that most mkv's have 5.1 sound, this is not supported, you can convert the soundtrack with mkvavi2mp4 or convert the whole movie with handbrake (takes a lot longer).

stuttering rubbish
Hi, whats the best settings to use in Handbrake for this device, I have an SGS2 and it plays 720 and 1080 content fine (HW decoding?) but as soon as I stick the same vids on the TF its appalling.. any tips what settings to use I am thinking of sending it back and waiting for something with a decent video player as I am not impressed my phone does a better job..
Found the settings in a differenmt thread, will try

I like Moboplayer but it does not play AVI files correctly, so I ended up installing QQPlayer as well.
QQPlayer does not play the AVI as smooth as Moboplayer but it displays the video in the correct color.
Anybody that knows which player that can play AVI file smoothly, I would appreciate the input. My AVI files are mainly captured from my Canon camera.
I know I can convert it to MP4, but this is not practical when we on the road.

quick question
whats the Best format to use for playing videos on the transformer, at what resolution, and whats a good piece of software to re encode existing movies to this format.
thanks!