Been on stock rom with a few addon from the early days, now the phones out of warranty i am thinking of hspl'ing it and taking the plunge to make it a better phone.
Just wanted to ask a few questions if someone can help.
1. If I install hspl will my win 6.5 stay intact until I decide to move over to WP7?
2. Can I backup my contacts, Pictures, sms's, music ect to import into WP7?
(can I also copy pics etc from my memory card to my pc and back to memory after WP7 formats it?
3. As there is no turn by turn navigation software I was thinking of installing dual boot with android on memory card to run google maps (good idea or not) ?
4. Is WP7 worth the switch? over 6.5
Thanks in advance for any advice/help
Here some short answers:
1) Yes, no problem at all.
2) The only thing I was not able to move to WP7 were SMS´s. For everything else there is a simple solution
3) Check this tutorial for the dual boot solution
4) Many say yes, many prefer Android. After all, it´s up to you.
ShaGGy_UK said:
1. If I install hspl will my win 6.5 stay intact until I decide to move over to WP7?
2. Can I backup my contacts, Pictures, sms's, music ect to import into WP7?
(can I also copy pics etc from my memory card to my pc and back to memory after WP7 formats it?
3. As there is no turn by turn navigation software I was thinking of installing dual boot with android on memory card to run google maps (good idea or not) ?
4. Is WP7 worth the switch? over 6.5
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1. Nope. WP7 will be flashed on the internal memory of the phone and WM6.5 will be erased. You can however flash back WM6.5 at any given time, so you have a fallback if needed.
2. You can, but you must do some things 1st
- Sync contacts with Outlook.
- Export contacts as csv file from Outlook.
- Import resulting csv in Gmail (create a gmail account if you don't have one already). You can of course also import the contacts in Windows Live if you don't want Gmail for some reason. Gmail is just the more universal solution as it will sync contacts with Android as well
- After you install WP7 set up your Gmail and all contacts will be imported over the air.
- Pictures and music should be backuped up to your PC prior to WP7 installation. Sync them over to WP7 with Zune. It's fast and easy
3. Who told you there is no turn by turn navigation Look out for Navigon Select. Features some excellent maps. Of course you can also dual boot with Android if you prefer Google Maps or some other sat nav software.
4. IMO it is worth it and I fell in love with the smooth interface and the speed of WP7. But it's personal preference. My wife for example hates the tiles
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1. Nope. WP7 will be flashed on the internal memory of the phone and WM6.5 will be erased. You can however flash back WM6.5 at any given time, so you have a fallback if needed.
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To be clear, the OP asked about installing HSPL, while deciding whether or not to go to WP7 - that can be done without affecting WM6.5.
1. If I install hspl will my win 6.5 stay intact until I decide to move over to WP7?
That depends entirely which SPL version you're running right now. If you're running a 3.14 ROM, you will have 3.14 SPL which is incompatible with HSPL, so you'll have to downgrade to a previous official ROM via the SD card method.
2. Can I backup my contacts, Pictures, sms's, music ect to import into WP7?
(can I also copy pics etc from my memory card to my pc and back to memory after WP7 formats it?
Yes, but there's a few additional steps you need to take. I managed to get everything but contacts moved with Zune. The contacts are easy enough to move with a SIM card or Outlook, for example.
3. As there is no turn by turn navigation software I was thinking of installing dual boot with android on memory card to run google maps (good idea or not) ?
I'd just run a NAND 'droid ROM, personally. There's nothing WP7 offers that Android doesn't do easier and better.
4. Is WP7 worth the switch? over 6.5
Over from 6.5? Maybe. Over Android? Definitely not.
For me Wp7 didnt work... i prefer Android. Still a bit green OS
Thanks Guys.
Think I might go with my original plan and install WP7 on rom and run Android from mem card and then play with them to see which i prefer.
Just got to work out the backing up bit now for my email accs and messages etc (already backed up sim card to pc so pictures etc are safe)
will let you know how I get on
Managed to back everything up except text messages, have scoured net and seems there is no way to import them into mp7
what are MS doing? they bring out a new OS but don`t supply the option to use one of their own tools to help people move over to the new os, this will alienate a few buyers.
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Hi there,
On my old HTC Diamond I installed everything to phone memory and so when I flashed it I just reinstalled all my apps. However, this time I have installed a large amount of them to the storage card. I don't remember my Diamond's storage card being flashed - so thats not the issue (I will probably remove the card before doing it anyway) - but my question is will my phone still see the installed apps on the memory card and put them in the start menu etc? Or will I be better off just uninstalling everything and re-doing it from scratch?
Also, is the new HTC Rom available in the UK yet?
bump?
surely someone can tell me
ftr2k8 said:
Hi there,
On my old HTC Diamond I installed everything to phone memory and so when I flashed it I just reinstalled all my apps. However, this time I have installed a large amount of them to the storage card. I don't remember my Diamond's storage card being flashed - so thats not the issue (I will probably remove the card before doing it anyway) - but my question is will my phone still see the installed apps on the memory card and put them in the start menu etc? Or will I be better off just uninstalling everything and re-doing it from scratch?
Also, is the new HTC Rom available in the UK yet?
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Check your HTC site in the UK to answer your own question.
Perhaps you should read more about how a flash works before you try with your HD2. Think of it this way: You have two hard disks in your computer, C and D. With Windows XP on C you installed all your programs on D. Then you decided to install Windows 7 on drive C, which copied over your XP. Do you think that Windows 7 will run the programs in D? The answer is obviously no.
The situation is similar when you flash a new ROM. With a file manager you could see the programs on your storage card, but that is all. You would have to reinstall all the programs for them to work.
Take care and understand everything you really need to know before you do decide to flash.
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Take care and understand everything you really need to know before you do decide to flash.
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That's why I was asking
Thanks for the info.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it would be possible in the near future to have WP7 running of an SD card like with Android. Because now I've finally found a near to perfect Android build (SuperRAM by darkstone) because my battery life is even better than on WM! I would like to have the option to still choose this one as my daily driver, but I would really love to have a go with WP7. It would be great to have an Android build, WP7 build and maybe a Meego build (in the future) all on the same SD card, with windows still running on NAND. I'm no real techie so I dunno if it is too much to ask, but I would really like to know my possibilities. Thanks in advance.
Same here. I think il always want wm 6.5 as a default os. Theres no way im flashing wp7 until its run off sd card or ram. I really want an answer on this. Triple boot!
hd2 wm6.5 android and wm7 all in one?
so right now i have the wm6.5 as my main os and have android to use when ever i need or want to show it off. after iam done i shut down android and turn the phone on again and wm6.5 reloads. can i do that with wm7? i want to keep wm6.5 the way i have it now and be able to load android or wm7 when ever i want and the go back to wm6.5. is that possible? THIS WAS A POST I MADE ON ANOTHER THREAD. I HERE WOULD LIKE TO KNOWIF THIS IS POSSIBLE
I want the exact same thing. But after doing a bit of reading it looks unlikely at the moment. Its nand only. I guess we can just pray there will be a sd ram version in the works
it can be done its been posted on here somewhere but its a very long winded process.
search for a dual boot.thinking of doing this myself
just a hypothesis, but since wp7 formats the sd card when it is fllashed, and then acts as if it is internaal storage, even if you could boot wp7 from an sd card, you would need another one to use as internal storage. if it was possible to partition the sd card and use one of the partitions to boot wp7 and the other for storage, you wouldn't have any data space for android (pics, songs etc.) So back to square one...
Exactly what I am looking for
WM6.5 main OS, with Android and/or WP7 running off SD Card.
After 2-3 weeks of using Android on my HD2, I'm totally sold! However, I installed Android on a card that also had lots of WinMo stuff on it. I would now like to start over from scratch on a totally clean 16GB card. I would like some info, however, before I start.
1. I have purchased several apps from the App Store. Should I uninstall them from my current SD card? My concern is that the store will not allow a second install to the new SD card.
2. Should I reformat the new card using the WinMo operating system or the formatting capability of my Vista laptop?
Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm intending to try darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom] first. Depending on how that goes, I may try MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-[FRG83D][kernel:MDJ S8.0]. I am currently running MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.4_MDJ_S7.6HD.
Thanks.
-Bob-
rebecker said:
After 2-3 weeks of using Android on my HD2, I'm totally sold! However, I installed Android on a card that also had lots of WinMo stuff on it. I would now like to start over from scratch on a totally clean 16GB card. I would like some info, however, before I start.
1. I have purchased several apps from the App Store. Should I uninstall them from my current SD card? My concern is that the store will not allow a second install to the new SD card.
2. Should I reformat the new card using the WinMo operating system or the formatting capability of my Vista laptop?
Any additional suggestions will be greatly appreciated. BTW, I'm intending to try darkstone SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 [kernel: Hastarin custom] first. Depending on how that goes, I may try MDJ FroYo HD v.4.6=-[FRG83D][kernel:MDJ S8.0]. I am currently running MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.4_MDJ_S7.6HD.
Thanks.
-Bob-
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No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
LiFE1688 said:
No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
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Sorry, I was unclear. I was talking about the paid apps I installed from the Android Market. Should I uninstall them from my current Android installation before starting over?
Are you recommending AGAINST SD Android versions? That's what I've used so far and am pretty impressed. I also like to have the security of staying away from ROM installs (I have a European HD2, so I'm not sure about the memory issues). Plus, I've read that darkstone's SuperRAM FroYo v1.5 is the fastest HD2 Android version available. Speed would be my only criticism of Android on the HD2 so far.
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-
SD /RAM android
LiFE1688 said:
No need to worry about the store, the Windows Mobile Marketplace is tied to your Windows Live account, so when you switch back to Windows Mobile 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, they will already be outdated and useless anyways because WinMO6.5 will feel like crap, and some programs in WinMO6.5 won't work in WP7.
Backup whatever you think you will need on the SD Card.
I recommend refreshing the MicroSD card with SD Card Formatter 3
However, in Options, Format type = FULL (Erase ON), and Format Size Adjustment = ON.
This will wipe everything off from the MicroSD Card.
NAND Androids are pretty good so far, so if you are going that way, read up on MAGLDR and how to install. You will need HSPL 2.08 and RADIO 2.15.50.14
You will also want to read up on Clockwork Recovery.
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I think your answer is meant for NAND but if I understand correctly then the mentioned new ROM are SD card / RAM builds
My suggestion
1) for Dark stone build is to start from scratch. If you want to restore all your apps etc then the best option is to use Titanium Backup and then you can restore all your apps +/- settings. For Contacts / Calendar Google account sync is the best option
2) if you are going for MDJ 4.6 build then just copy your data.img from the 4.4 build and place it in the downloaded 4.6 build folder and you are all done. all your apps, data, settings etc will be as before...
Before you do anything make a backup of your important files in the SD card and the data.img file from the old 4.4 build ...very imp. Once formatted you can copy the file back into the SD card
For Formatting you are better off using the default format option in windows PC as it allows a better slower format and you can specify the cluster size (32 /64 kb). For me the SD formatter 3 program did not work and kept giving errors.
As for SD card ROM i think they are great but unlikely to develop further due to stagnation.
The RAM build has problems with using HTC SENSE base (as its too big for the RAM space avail) and i found them to be a little unstable with likely hood of data corruption which is easy to addresss if you keep a backup of data.img on your PC.
At the moment NAND is developing fast and with usable and stable HD desire builds available now , but is a little complicated to set up at first. However if it all goes wrong...it is definitely possible to go back to Win Mo and start all over as before. You should try both if possible and then go for the one you like.
My only probs with the SD build was of speed of bootup which was at 3 min, slight lag in the build and occcasional wakeup lag / SoD and i found it difficult..otherwise no complaints.
despy1989 said:
For Formatting you are better off using the default format option in windows PC as it allows a better slower format and you can specify the cluster size (32 /64 kb). For me the SD formatter 3 program did not work and kept giving errors.
At the moment NAND is developing fast and with usable and stable HD desire builds available now , but is a little complicated to set up at first. However if it all goes wrong...it is definitely possible to go back to Win Mo and start all over as before. You should try both if possible and then go for the one you like.
My only probs with the SD build was of speed of bootup which was at 3 min, slight lag in the build and occcasional wakeup lag / SoD and i found it difficult..otherwise no complaints.
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Which cluster size do you recommend, 32 or 64?
Which NAND version do you recommend? I'm looking for speed and simplicity. And I have the European (English) HD2. Isn't there an issue with memory?
If all fails with the Nand install can I just run the WinMo ROM I currently have installed from my PC?
Thanks for your response.
-Bob-
Has anyone been able to backup an activated WP7 Rom. Since the WP7 Rom password which is tied directly to the sd card used when the phone is initially turned on prevents easily swapping stuff around, I like to backup my existing WP7 Rom. Then I can flash a Nandroid Gingerbread Rom and then be able to return flash to my stored activate WP7 Rom/SD card whenever I'd like. Sounds good anyway.
hooutoo said:
Has anyone been able to backup an activated WP7 Rom. Since the WP7 Rom password which is tied directly to the sd card used when the phone is initially turned on prevents easily swapping stuff around, I like to backup my existing WP7 Rom. Then I can flash a Nandroid Gingerbread Rom and then be able to return flash to my stored activate WP7 Rom/SD card whenever I'd like. Sounds good anyway.
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You mean a program like Nandroid?
And no. That's not possible at the current moment.
That's too bad, what we need is a version of ClockworkMod that works with WP7.
This would be a great tool if someone brought it out.
Have my HD2 now running wp7,activated and not bad at all, loads of apps missing
that I would normally have in my android build.
Wanting to flash back to android but would also like to backup this activated wp7
and then can swap and change as new stuff comes out.
Any mods willing to take this on.
George
maybe by reg'?
hooutoo said:
Has anyone been able to backup an activated WP7 Rom. Since the WP7 Rom password which is tied directly to the sd card used when the phone is initially turned on prevents easily swapping stuff around, I like to backup my existing WP7 Rom. Then I can flash a Nandroid Gingerbread Rom and then be able to return flash to my stored activate WP7 Rom/SD card whenever I'd like. Sounds good anyway.
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I am positive there could be a way through Regedit.
I carry a 16gb sd and i noticed it showed a little reserved partition of around 20% in the zune software(which allows its tweaking). The tweak ability was gone after reinstalling windows and zune.. and that made me loss the partition and an extra unused 2gb.
Now the main thing is, i reg edited the phone for portable usb capabilities - viewing its content, moving, creating and pasting stuff around. To regain my full gb's, i wud 've copied all contents to pc and formatted it but then realized it contained all call history and EVERY settings made to the phone(on sd) which the reg editing i did didnt give full access to than only the media folders.
Unless ADVANCED reged' is made to make visible all primary phone settings(for easy pc backup) then . . . . . . . . . yeah....'no cant do'
But this is xda. and i hope someone could figure this out
Hi all,
Since MS Myphone service is not working with WP7 for backing up the short messages, is there any way or a software to backup all contacts, SMS, and others. Most importantly SMS. How can I get a backup for SMS messages.??
Thanks a lot for any advice in advance..
Does anybody know where the sms are stored in file system? If we knew this maybe we could just backup those files via Touchxperience file explorer (Beta).
I posted in another thread about this, because I was also looking for a way to backup my messages. I didn't really find a "real" way. But what I found is, in my opinion, better than nothing. I like to keep my SMSs for sentimental reasons, so if you only want to be able to read them again in the future, I have a theory of how to do so. I took my SD card out of my HD2 and booted WP7, all of my contacts, messages, account info, was gone. I put the SD back in and it was all back to normal. So, I assume that if you back up your SD card with EASEUS partition manager (I think there is a tutorial on this in the dual booting android and wp7 thread) you can keep the backup on your computer and save it for later. I haven't actually tried this, but because nobody seems to be working on this, I thought it might be worth mentioning.
sur3nd1p1ty said:
I posted in another thread about this, because I was also looking for a way to backup my messages. I didn't really find a "real" way. But what I found is, in my opinion, better than nothing. I like to keep my SMSs for sentimental reasons, so if you only want to be able to read them again in the future, I have a theory of how to do so. I took my SD card out of my HD2 and booted WP7, all of my contacts, messages, account info, was gone. I put the SD back in and it was all back to normal. So, I assume that if you back up your SD card with EASEUS partition manager (I think there is a tutorial on this in the dual booting android and wp7 thread) you can keep the backup on your computer and save it for later. I haven't actually tried this, but because nobody seems to be working on this, I thought it might be worth mentioning.
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It's true.
Works fine for me. I use it to backup apps, however.
Good post. It never hurts to do a backup. But it doesn't help when you upgrade the build, all messages etc will be lost.
Edit; Looked at easeus partition manager and it seemed that the only way to copy a disk partition is to create a new partition on your hard disk, thus erasing the whole hard disk! How do you do it Domenukk?
Also I may be wrong about losing all data when upgrading eg to nodo. If this is possible to do a backup, after upgrading the ROM the backed up sdcard could be re-inserted, it might work! Dont know
Edit 2; found thread titled "[Q] Backing up or Imaging SD card partitions" which explains how to backup to hard disk using ease-us. Another poster suggests using a usb stick or external hard drive instead of precious internal one.
a while ago there were rumurs of Myphone for WP7
http://wmpoweruser.com/my-phone-for-windows-phone-7-pictured/
Has there been any updates?
Right now this is the only thing that is preventiong me from making my HD2 with WP7 my main phone.
you could use "copy and paste" to copy each sms message to Office, then put the file in Dropbox and retrieve on your laptop.
I have tried this and only the message gets copied, not the sender or date/time. you would have to add this for every text in Office
It is useful though for important stuff.
If you download apps via Zune to your phone, they are remembered when you change your ROM, though doesn't work for XApps.
Contacts- saved to sim or synched via windows live account.
Come on thebranded, dive in
hi, its going to be stored somewhere, i backup my programs data files, even after a reflash and upgrade i can use the backups to restore the data for the apps, works great for things like petrol usage, fitness programs etc
anyhow, the SMS files must be located somewhere on the card as well, why dont we get to gether, get a sms message and record the time stamp, turn off the phone and then search the phone looking for files edited at that time stamp
i thnk you can just use zune and sync it
faiz1120 said:
i thnk you can just use zune and sync it
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it doesnt backup sms messages
faiz1120 said:
i thnk you can just use zune and sync it
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You think or you try it yourself already? How to do it?
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You think or you try it yourself already? How to do it?
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as i said, it doesnt backup SMS messages. If you were about to update the device it would do it, but we cant, and we probably shouldnt even if we could.