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Using a dev phone to access the paid apps marketplace

Can it be done?

emudojo said:
Can it be done?
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No, search next time please =)

Short answer is no with an adp build but if you really want paid apps you can install JFRC33 to get access to them.

I don't know where these guys are coming up with their info. You most definitely CAN access paid market with ADP, IF you have installed the update available at www.htc.com in the support section.
The only requirement is that you have a US or UK sim card installed, I don't think that it is necessary for the card to be active.

not so short answer
Well, people are kind of right about not being able to download paid apps. I have an ADP1 1.1 phone using Three as my provider here in the UK and I see SOME charged apps. BUT apps that the developer 'copy protects' arel not available. (see below for the unfiltered version)
This is a load of cr4p on Google's part because the 'copy protection' is simply installing the app to a protected directory (no encryption, no validation, nothing). As the ADP1 phone has root, we can get easy access to the apk file, and since we are all criminals we will post them to warz sites. Of course the reality is that there are far more rooted G1s out there (that CAN get all forms of paid apps) then there are ADP1s.
But, of course, Google has plausible denyability when it comes to hacked G1s. This is not the case with ADP1s. I suspect that this was a decision from the law department in Google.
The only sure way to get ALL the apps on an ADP1 is to install one of the hacked JesusFreek ROMS or flash it to a stock G1
Here is the official word from the android developers (http://android-developers.blogspot.com/)
"Some developers have asked about the support for copy-protected apps on developer devices, and indeed there is a limitation you should be aware of. Many developers are concerned about the unauthorized redistribution of their applications, so they make use of the copy-protection feature (known as "forward locking") which prevents applications from being copied off devices. However, developer phones like the ADP1 allow for unrestricted access to the device's contents, making it impossible to enforce copy protection. As a result, the Market application on such devices is not able to access copy protected apps, whether they are free or paid. If you choose to add copy protection when you upload your application to the Android Market, then you won't be able to test it on the ADP1's Android Market client. Your application will always be accessible to users who have standard configurations though, and if your application (whether it is free or paid) is not copy-protected it will appear on all devices, including developer configurations."

lbcoder said:
I don't know where these guys are coming up with their info. You most definitely CAN access paid market with ADP, IF you have installed the update available at www.htc.com in the support section.
The only requirement is that you have a US or UK sim card installed, I don't think that it is necessary for the card to be active.
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What update????

Try clicking on the link and going to the support section as I said. THAT update.

I don't see any updates for the G1 under the support section, only FAQ, User Guides, and Tips & Tricks. Do you have a direct link?

http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html

Thanks for the direct link. I was looking under G1... opps. I want to try and switch over to adp, but wont flashing the updates from the link mean I cant flash to a modded build? Even if I can see protected apps with this update, if I chose to use a Modded image, then I will lose the ability once again right?
Im sorry if im not getting this, but I just want to be on an ADP1.1 build that allows me to see AND purchase all apps... Even protected ones, while still being able to run the scripts and other developments that this community has brought. Will this help me accomplish that???
Sorry in advance

Any reasons not to "root" my Hero?

Any reasons not to "root" my Hero or dows it only has upsides?
If I set the cpe speed to max, would that make my Hero more "fragile", i.e. have a shorter life, etc?
Regards,
BTJ

Here I don't know if it's the superuser apk or just the rooting, but when I launch contacts once fully rooted, com.android.acore crashes when I launch contacts. Logs don't say anything useful to me

As far as I'm aware, you will not be able to download copy protected apps from the market (paid or not) if you have a rooted device - at least that was true of the ADP phone (Developers G1).
Regards,
Dave

I've been able to download protected apps once rooted.

You lose your guarentee

foxmeister said:
As far as I'm aware, you will not be able to download copy protected apps from the market (paid or not) if you have a rooted device - at least that was true of the ADP phone (Developers G1).
Regards,
Dave
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hi foxmeister,
could you be more explicit please cause i was able to download app from the market even after rooting my phone. thx

I have no issues buying paid apps on my rooted phone. Because I am on a carrier or in a country that shouldn't have access to paid apps yet, I just have to insert the SIM card from a carrier where paid apps is supported and connect to Market over WiFi. Alternatively, being rooted means that you can also install Market Enabler, which is a 3rd party app that allows paid apps to show up regardless

Sawkes said:
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No. You dont. You can always un-root the phone so its all good.

deeren said:
hi foxmeister,
could you be more explicit please cause i was able to download app from the market even after rooting my phone. thx
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As I understand it, the issue relates to those paid apps which are "copy protected" and not all paid apps (all copy protected apps are paid apps, but not all paid apps are copy protected!).
Googles DRM scheme is to essentially to just install apps marked as copy protected to an area of the phone a regular user can't see. If you have root, you could then copy off the app and redistribute it, so they put a block on phones with root access being able to access copy protected apps.
Certainly there were lots of complaints that developers with ADP phones (essentially pre-rooted Developers G1) could not download their own copy protected apps from the market.
It may well be that the market app can't detect certain methods of rooting the phone, so perhaps this is not an issue any more.
Regards,
Dave

minogue said:
No. You dont. You can always un-root the phone so its all good.
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You can only un-root your phone if it is actually working. If you want to return your phone because it doesn't power on any more (for example) you wouldn't be able to un-root it prior to return.
However, I doubt that HTC would spend too much time looking at whether or not a dead phone was rooted, and would probably just replace the unit and refurbish the old one.
Regards,
Dave

paid apps in denmark

hello
I can't find it any where so i need to ask, is there any way to get paid apps on my desire, when i can't download paid apps from market ?
Fisken -

I am in Denmark too. I use Marketenabler and so I can fake my provider as T -Mobil (US), and see both paid and free apps.
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i can't install that, is that because i need to root it first ?

Fisken said:
i can't install that, is that because i need to root it first ?
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Yes.
Another easy solution is to use a sim card from another country where paid Android applications is possible. I have tried with an austrian sim card in Denmark without problems. Just download the applications using WiFi.

Unfortunately yes. It needs root privilege.
Sent from my HTC Hero using Tapatalk

There's a third way that requires neither root nor foreign sim. It does require that you install Android SDK on you computer, and it's a bit of a hassle to set up the first time, but once you've done that, you have easy access to paid apps. It's what I used before I rooted, and it worked like a charm.
It's too complicated for me to remember off hand, and I'm a new user so apparently I can't post links, but try googling "paid apps i emulator" or "paid apps i telefonen"; it's the top search result for me. *
(it's in Swedish, but being Danish you should have little difficulties with that; sorry non-Scandinavians - try googling key words... Although we're probably pretty much the only ones left without paid apps in Market by now
* If it doesn't work, let me now, and maybe I'll just post the whole damn thing right here (if I can get the author's permission).

move to USA or something is another solution LOL.
ok I think the safest way for you to do this is buy a sim from a country that has market enabled. Rooting your phone just to be able to buy apps is a bit risky. Installing the SDK might be the cheapest solution tbh. And you just cant brick your pc doing that

I was able to install the SDK, but I failed to grasp how to install market.

vikinguser said:
I was able to install the SDK, but I failed to grasp how to install market.
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Not sure what you mean; you don't "install" Market per se...
Once you've installed SDK on your PC, you create an AVD (Android Virtual Device), which is basically an Android emulator on your PC. In this emulator you can buy whatever you want from Market, and then push (or copy) it to your actual phone.
Are you following a guide? If so, which, and how far have you gotten?
If you understand Swedish, try this (exchange | for / ):
blogg.tthe.se|index.php|other|paid-apps-i-emulator

eham said:
Not sure what you mean; you don't "install" Market per se...
Once you've installed SDK on your PC, you create an AVD (Android Virtual Device), which is basically an Android emulator on your PC. In this emulator you can buy whatever you want from Market, and then push (or copy) it to your actual phone.
Are you following a guide? If so, which, and how far have you gotten?
If you understand Swedish, try this (exchange | for / ):
blogg.tthe.se|index.php|other|paid-apps-i-emulator
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Dear eham, it seems to be a good workaround for me (for I don't wanna risk rooting and dont wanna change to sim card too frequently), just a few questions to ask about the emulator method.
would I still be able to update the paid apps if I download the paid apps through emulator? and will I be able to install it back if I flash my phone?
thx

hongkongtom said:
would I still be able to update the paid apps if I download the paid apps through emulator? and will I be able to install it back if I flash my phone?
thx
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"Dear eham"? why so formal
The answers are yes and yes.
You own the app (it's tied to your google account), so it's yours to update or whatever, but as long as you're unrooted you will have to do it in the emulator (as you can't access the paid app's Market page on your phone), and then push the updated .apk to your phone, replacing the old one. Be sure to add an SD-card to your emulator, and use ASTRO in your emu-phone to backup your apps to it as your emu-phone will have the same ****ty amount of internal memory as your real phone (if it's anything like mine .
And yes. Use ASTRO (or any app backup.. app) to also backup your apps to your real SD and/or your PC, and you can reinstall them whenever you want.

eham said:
"Dear eham"? why so formal
The answers are yes and yes.
You own the app (it's tied to your google account), so it's yours to update or whatever, but as long as you're unrooted you will have to do it in the emulator (as you can't access the paid app's Market page on your phone), and then push the updated .apk to your phone, replacing the old one. Be sure to add an SD-card to your emulator, and use ASTRO in your emu-phone to backup your apps to it as your emu-phone will have the same ****ty amount of internal memory as your real phone (if it's anything like mine .
And yes. Use ASTRO (or any app backup.. app) to also backup your apps to your real SD and/or your PC, and you can reinstall them whenever you want.
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Very well said, Thx mate! I'll go try it out! Really wanna support paid apps! Anyone got an idea when will Google bring paid apps to other countries or Paypal for paid apps? It's non-sense for me in HK to be able to buy N1 though Google checkout and not able to buy paid apps.
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You're welcome
Btw, you don't have paid apps in HK?! That surprised me, I thought for sure you did.
But yeah, I second the question. What's the damn holdup, Google? Anyone got the scoop?
The last I heard (for Sweden) was January 2010. I'm starting to think that's not gonna happen...

i had marketenabler for 2.1 but upgrading to 2.2 stops the program from working unfortunately... =/

eham said:
You're welcome
Btw, you don't have paid apps in HK?! That surprised me, I thought for sure you did.
But yeah, I second the question. What's the damn holdup, Google? Anyone got the scoop?
The last I heard (for Sweden) was January 2010. I'm starting to think that's not gonna happen...
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It didn't only surprised you mate, you shocked me as well when Iphone's app store has already been working in HK since like 2-3 years ago? Man!
well, one more thing to ask, Google had just push out the newest SDK, I am using it for the workaround, but seems it uses 1.6 for the emulator, could I use 2.2 (or at least 2.1) instead so that I could install my apps onto the SD card?
besides, how could I push .apk to my phone? basically how could I find the stuff on SD on my emulator?

Like I said in an earlier post, I went and rooted my phone, so I haven't used the SDK method in a while, and I couldn't really tell you if you could use 2.2 or not. I see no harm in trying, but I'm going to leave the answer up to someone who might know a little better.
But really, why would you? Maybe I'm missing something, but once you've pushed/saved, and backed up, the apps, you don't really need them on the AVD (emu-phone) anymore, so if you're running low on memory just uninstall as needed. You've paid for them, so you can always reinstall from Market if you ever feel the need.
Not entirely sure what mean by the last part. If you mean how do you push the files that you moved to SD using App2SD, I don't know. I don't have 2.2 or A2SD, so again I'm going to have to leave that for someone else to answer. Personally, I probably wouldn't bother with a 2.2 AVD as I see no real benefit, but hey, that's me.
So to reiterate: Use 1.6.

eham said:
Like I said in an earlier post, I went and rooted my phone, so I haven't used the SDK method in a while, and I couldn't really tell you if you could use 2.2 or not. I see no harm in trying, but I'm going to leave the answer up to someone who might know a little better.
But really, why would you? Maybe I'm missing something, but once you've pushed/saved, and backed up, the apps, you don't really need them on the AVD (emu-phone) anymore, so if you're running low on memory just uninstall as needed. You've paid for them, so you can always reinstall from Market if you ever feel the need.
Not entirely sure what mean by the last part. If you mean how do you push the files that you moved to SD using App2SD, I don't know. I don't have 2.2 or A2SD, so again I'm going to have to leave that for someone else to answer. Personally, I probably wouldn't bother with a 2.2 AVD as I see no real benefit, but hey, that's me.
So to reiterate: Use 1.6.
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Dear eham (I really have to be this formal to express my appreciation )
finally got all things sorted out and successfully purchased 1 app and pushed to my phone (automatically through Android market), finally I can show my appreciation to the apps developers!
well, even though I can now get paid apps, being a non-root user with 2.1, I still have to wait for the official Froyo update from HTC to further enjoy apps (my memory is certainly full just after the 2nd day I bought my Desire).
anyway, great great help from xda!

Glad I could help

Removing/disabling features of GS4 without rooting/flashing ROM

Hi all,
I am part of an IT Client team and we are trying to prep for the deployment of the GS4. The S3 is our current standard and was received pretty well, but some of the features are overwhelming to our sales force. Is there any way that we can disable some of these features perhaps even automatically via ADB and a USB cable?
Also, we are wanting to have our company app preinstalled. Currently it resides in the marketplace but apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store and that they actually have to go find the app and install it. Is there a way to automatically sideload our app? We were also discussing a launcher like launcherpro with an xml file included that contains default locations for icons, data, etc.
Has anyone tried this before? Please advise with ideas/suggestions. We don't want to flash a ROM generated by our company because that would require too much overhead on our part to manage because thousands of phones need to me maintained. We also don't want to root the NatureUI/Touchwiz stock rom that comes with the S4.

metroidnemesis13 said:
Hi all,
I am part of an IT Client team and we are trying to prep for the deployment of the GS4. The S3 is our current standard and was received pretty well, but some of the features are overwhelming to our sales force. Is there any way that we can disable some of these features perhaps even automatically via ADB and a USB cable?
Also, we are wanting to have our company app preinstalled. Currently it resides in the marketplace but apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store and that they actually have to go find the app and install it. Is there a way to automatically sideload our app? We were also discussing a launcher like launcherpro with an xml file included that contains default locations for icons, data, etc.
Has anyone tried this before? Please advise with ideas/suggestions. We don't want to flash a ROM generated by our company because that would require too much overhead on our part to manage because thousands of phones need to me maintained. We also don't want to root the NatureUI/Touchwiz stock rom that comes with the S4.
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I'm not quite sure about disabling features on the stock ROM. I know there's an Easy mode that can be used for first time smartphone owners. As far as preloading your company app, you can write a script to do so. However, that requires you to manually enable developer mode and USB debugging on every single phone. I'm not sure how practical this is, considering you have so many phones. A better way might be to send a mass text message or email to each of the phones with the play store link to the app. Once again, considering the employees might be unfamiliar with the phone, a text would probably be the simple way to go. I would use side-loading as a way of installing your app in the event that someone had an issue with the text. I believe you'd run into the same issues with preinstalling LauncherPro and associated xml files. It doesn't seem there's a way you can properly deploy what you need to w/o going hands on on all units.

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Depending on what functionality you would like to disable, you can go to the App Manager heading in the Settings menu, and disable system apps you don't use. In terms of disabling parts of functionality in certain system apps, that probably wouldn't be possible on stock unrooted devices.

metroidnemesis13 said:
apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store
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I'm not sure how to solve your problem. I was going to say once you are willing to ADB and USB debug you might as well cook up the ROM the way you want it and blast it on with Odin.
However, one thing to be concerned about is the OTA software updates that you probably want your users to be able to receive. If you mod the stock software (either with ADB or a modded ROM) in such a way to make the phone status 'Custom' your users won't be able to get updates and bug fixes from Samsung.
I would just try to hold their hand through getting the app installed (ie. email them a link to it when they get a phone so all they have to do is tap the link and hit install) and leave the rest of the phone alone.

Links to making a HD 10 into a Android clone or close to it. GPS question

Considering I was around PC's before dial up.... I've fallen way behind in the past few decades. So I was given a HD 10. It's great. But I'd like to download and use the android apps. Even the free ones will often say the app will not be fully utilized by the HD10. I had all this info from this site down loaded somewhere to be able to side load and do other stuff. Yes, I lost it. Sigh...
Hint: I have no idea what side-load is other than it sounds like a backdoor means to load software. So what I need if possible.
1. Link to instructions and programs that will allow the full use of the tablet as an android device if possible.
2. Can the HD10 be modified to work like a GPS that most smartphones and even cars now use? using Google maps and apps.
3. Any other tips or links for the HD10. I'm old, retired and have nothing but time. I've blown up my fair share of programs over the decades, so I'd prefer not to turn this "gift" into a target for when I go plinking. So if these programs have recovery options that'd be great. LOL!
Thanks.
BTW this site is terrific, I used it to unlock the Google play store. Great job.

Littlem56 said:
1. Link to instructions and programs that will allow the full use of the tablet as an android device if possible.
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Follow the following instructions:
Unlock Bootloader & Root (required for 2nd)
Debloat (remove unnecessary Amazon apps)
There are some plans to port Stock Android, but it's still in progress.
Littlem56 said:
2. Can the HD10 be modified to work like a GPS that most smartphones and even cars now use? using Google maps and apps.
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Currently no GPS, because Amazon didn't set it up right for some reason. AGPS (location service via network) works.