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digital rewards (membership) cards

Does anyone know if there is a program for the tp2 that will allow you to create digital version of membership cards with bar codes the stores offer. My buddy has one for his i-phone but I am not having any luck finding one for winmo6.
If someone wants to know of what I am talking about there is a website mycardstar.com. any help greatly appreciated.

Those cards are retarded. I prefer not to reward stupid retailers for bad behavior.

godefroi said:
Those cards are retarded. I prefer not to reward stupid retailers for bad behavior.
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Hey mate you don't need to be too harsh...

what150 said:
Hey mate you don't need to be too harsh...
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Every time a cashier asks me if I have a "reward" card or whatever they happen to call them, I want to reach over the counter and throttle them. I clutter my wallet with these cards and sift through/drag out the correct one on demand, and my "reward" is lots of junk mail delivered directly to my house.
Yay. Let's do this some more!

robinakilt said:
Does anyone know if there is a program for the tp2 that will allow you to create digital version of membership cards with bar codes the stores offer. My buddy has one for his i-phone but I am not having any luck finding one for winmo6.
If someone wants to know of what I am talking about there is a website mycardstar.com. any help greatly appreciated.
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here's the app you're looking for: http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Bar Code
however you should know (as your iPhone friend probably knows but may not admit) that the reflective nature of the screens on our phones make these difficult to work. If you have a screen protector that may work. I've tried it on my Fuze without a screen protector and it's simply too reflective. Good luck!

godefroi said:
Every time a cashier asks me if I have a "reward" card or whatever they happen to call them, I want to reach over the counter and throttle them. I clutter my wallet with these cards and sift through/drag out the correct one on demand, and my "reward" is lots of junk mail delivered directly to my house.
Yay. Let's do this some more!
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Don't get mad at the cashier for doing their job. Most places that have those reward cards REQUIRE the cashier to ask for the stupid cards, and most those cashiers DON'T want to ask but they'll get in trouble if they don't.
But really, if all it takes is a few cards to make you want to choke someone, perhaps you have some deeper issues that need sorting.

AstarteSV said:
Don't get mad at the cashier for doing their job. Most places that have those reward cards REQUIRE the cashier to ask for the stupid cards, and most those cashiers DON'T want to ask but they'll get in trouble if they don't.
But really, if all it takes is a few cards to make you want to choke someone, perhaps you have some deeper issues that need sorting.
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And besides that your an idiot if you would rather pay a higher price than play the game of the rewards card. Who goes to the grocery store and pays full price for something when just for having a card they give you a discount?
My grocery cards arent even tied to my name and address.
On that note, I am going to check out the link seems pretty handy if you ask me......

great program too
This is going to come in handy!!

thank you for the link to the program and so far so good. I have entered about 7 of my rewards cards and the bar code is dead on. Next will be to use it later today and I will post how well the scanner reads it.

any luck with the scanner? I never got it to work even though the appearance was right (because of glare).

godefroi said:
Every time a cashier asks me if I have a "reward" card or whatever they happen to call them, I want to reach over the counter and throttle them. I clutter my wallet with these cards and sift through/drag out the correct one on demand, and my "reward" is lots of junk mail delivered directly to my house.
Yay. Let's do this some more!
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thats why you fill out the paperwork with your phone number. instead of having to carry around the card(s), your reward card number is the phone number you used when filling out the paperwork. should be pretty easy to memorize your phone number.

ngravatt said:
thats why you fill out the paperwork with your phone number. instead of having to carry around the card(s), your reward card number is the phone number you used when filling out the paperwork. should be pretty easy to memorize your phone number.
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you took the word right out of my mouth =)
yes i do agree that all the cards take up lots of room in the wallet and being as minimal as i am i mean i dont even carry coins at all.
its funny that the larger corporations dont practice this i mean if our local super markets here in hawaii not to mention the pet shop here are smart enough to tie your reward card to your telephone number i mean come on it cant be that hard!
this program is a good idea but the only thing i have noticed it that a lot of these rewards cards are switching to the mag strips =(
we all just need to get on the europe/asia train where cell phones can pay for things like bus fair, convenience store runs and even vending machines
anywho thanks for the link gonna load this up and give it a try =)

NFC can potentially replace oyster cards (in the UK)

this all started on how can i test my NFC (in the UK) that its not a defect unit.
although at the moment, the Nexus S is only able to read NFC tags, but in future, when its enabled to be able to write as well, we will be able to ditch our oyster card and use our phone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication
United Kingdom
Cheshire County Council, StaffPlan Connect time recording and point of care system
Over-C, Welbeing Domicilary Care.[45]
Manchester City Football Club, Orange, Barclays, TfL Oyster card[46]
O2, Consult Hyperion at the Wireless Festival in Hyde Park (Wristband format)[47]
Transport for London, smart poster[48]
Barclays debit cards issued post March 2009 [49]
i have tested myself by getting my Nexus S on a oyster card and it did pickup a unknown tag.

qwerp_ said:
this all started on how can i test my NFC (in the UK) that its not a defect unit.
although at the moment, the Nexus S is only able to read NFC tags, but in future, when its enabled to be able to write as well, we will be able to ditch our oyster card and use our phone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Field_Communication
United Kingdom
Cheshire County Council, StaffPlan Connect time recording and point of care system
Over-C, Welbeing Domicilary Care.[45]
Manchester City Football Club, Orange, Barclays, TfL Oyster card[46]
O2, Consult Hyperion at the Wireless Festival in Hyde Park (Wristband format)[47]
Transport for London, smart poster[48]
Barclays debit cards issued post March 2009 [49]
i have tested myself by getting my Nexus S on a oyster card and it did pickup a unknown tag.
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NFC is going to take over the world, hopefully the next iPhone implements it as well. Imagine checking in to flights with your phone, movie tickets, payments, the possibilities are endless

booyakasha said:
NFC is going to take over the world, hopefully the next iPhone implements it as well. Imagine checking in to flights with your phone, movie tickets, payments, the possibilities are endless
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yes, we all know that. but some others are like totally new implementation of NFC which will take some time before happens.
the example i given is already running on NFC. we just need to be able to read and store the NFC info from the oyster card to be transmitted over to the checkout at stations.
not sure how this is going to happen.
imagine, you can just hover over your friends wallet and pickup all the tags. oyster card, credit card and etc etc, and be able to like read and store to be transmitted again.
some sort of security is needed, hence i believe that is why google did not enable it (to be able to write) in the first place untill they come out with a secure way that you can do it.

NFC Cards are in and can be picked up by my phone
Ok
Left the NFC reader on on my HTC One x and got pings from..
Contactless cc (Not a surprise)
Library card (Caerphilly)
CCFC season ticketcard
Only the Library card was a surprise as I hadn't thought of it and was in my 10yo's wallet.
So far I only know that Paypal and Sony have developed useful apps for this tech but with some luck the IPhone 5 will have it and that will boot the development.
I am really hoping that T mobile and Visa will pull there fingers out and get Visa Mobile sorted.
Ps Looked into the Barclaycard pay tag thing that has been advertised and it is a sticker with a passive NFC chip or should i say contactless cc chip.

Nfc as a credit card

I thought we would be able to use the nexus s as a credit/debit card after 2.3.3...... But in the write tags section, i dont see anywhere that says an option like it
:-(
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Even if NFC receives the function of credit/debit card, we must first think about in what places will they receive it. I'm sure movie theater and public big corporation markets will adopt the payment of NFC soon, but I still think we should give it sometime first.

But meanwhile I would love 2 use it where I can...most places do read nfc enabled cards. So how could ot be possible to write on a.credit card?
Maybe get the unknown file the nfc chip reads, then write it as a nfc read only file, then try to use it somewhere?
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so far, it works on public transportation.
I'm sure the adaptation to public market will come soon.

xdahd2 said:
I thought we would be able to use the nexus s as a credit/debit card after 2.3.3...... But in the write tags section, i dont see anywhere that says an option like it
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You misunderstood. The 2.3.3 update allows DEVELOPERS to add NFC read/write capabilities to their apps. This means that VISA, Mastercard, and other credit card companies can now write apps that use NFC to process payments. We will no doubt see such apps soon.
The default NFC capabilities in 2.3.3 are just for unencrypted transactions like business card trading and such. Credit card transactions, as you can imagine, must be treated with much more sensitivity, and as such only the credit card companies can make those apps.

xdahd2 said:
I thought we would be able to use the nexus s as a credit/debit card after 2.3.3...... But in the write tags section, i dont see anywhere that says an option like it
:-(
~Sent from my Nexus S with Swype~
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You need your bank to release an app allowing the phone to access your account and then create the transaction, PROVIDE ENCRIPTION and so on...
Think about this: if the functions has been embedded, anyone "tagging" you would be able to trigger them, let alone that you could mispressing the "pay" button
Moreover, acting as a credit card is not about writing a tag, but emulating one.
In short: is the phone that allows the shop to read your card, not you writing your bank info to their POS
Be patient

:x
Can't wait to spend money with my phone!!
I just started working, so I just opened a bank account!!!!
But then again, not so thrilled with the ongoing bugs.... "/
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sadkorean34 said:
Even if NFC receives the function of credit/debit card, we must first think about in what places will they receive it. I'm sure movie theater and public big corporation markets will adopt the payment of NFC soon, but I still think we should give it sometime first.
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Hey there,
I live in Australia, banks are rolling-out NFC for payments <$100, they call it PayPass, and I love it. All 7Elevens have it, burger places and cinemas are leading the move as well. It's super fast, just wave your payment card, light goes green within less than a second and that's it!
My NS detects the NFC tags in my payment cards, it just says something like "unknown tag". But I thought that the NS was only a NFC reading unit, don't know if you can program a tag into it -which is pretty much what we need to make a payment I guess.
Cheers.

This was the first thing I thought of when I got this phone. Use nfc to pay for stuff. All we need is for visa or your bank to make an app then plug your card number in and done. Nfc readers are becoming very widespread, vivotech is a big one, Google them and nfc. Its only a matter of time now.
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Interesting article about NFC and NS

http://hothardware.com/News/Google-Purportedly-Testing-NFC-Payment-Machines-In-NYSF-Stores-/
thoughts?

Sounds great to me, but it may be some time before the UK takes the NFC a little more seriously.
Can't wait for the day i can use the oyster card (london tube card system) and pay for items in the supermarket without the extra stuff in pocket

I want this so hard. I love this phone.
Oddly enough, most people I tell NFC about are horrified by it, thinking someone will steal there bank accounts from the phone.
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well its true you can get your info stolen but they will probably have security or maybe already have security for this stuff. they also sell wallets that protect you from this stuff

It is possible for people to steal your info, but the solution is WAY MORE SECURE THAN WHAT WE ARE USING TODAY.
With NFC the only real way to steal the info is to have some type of RF scanner, scan the signal at the exact time of the transaction, decode the info, and then you may get a credit card number. Even if you have a credit card number you may never be able to find the unique ID on the chip that can be associated with that single credit card that could be needed to complete a transaction.
With today's technology to steal info you have to just look at someone's credit card, remember some numbers, and forge a signatures that no one really looks at.

or just use the credit card numbers online where no sig is required.
As an added bonus most new credit cards have PayWave or PayPass on them anyway!
NFC payments are being tested in Australia as well, but here they are using iPhones with a case containing NFC hardware (instead of just using a Nexus S...haha). They are talking about SD cards with NFC on them for Android phones as a solution as well as the iPhone cases.

I can't see why NFC is worth having

Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.

it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it

At least here in Croatia debit cards require a swiping, then have to be inserted into a machine and then you input a pin, wait a good 5~10 seconds for a confromation and you're done.
Credit cards require you to swipe the card and wait for the machine to print out a reciept that you have to sign.
So NFC makes a lot sense to me.

buttes said:
it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.

BlueSebba said:
Most people have 1 card, some more.
It takes MUCH less place having cards, and if you can't take your card out properly, you need brain surgery or something.
For me this is just another marketing trick, like 3D.
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i'm just going by the nfc video that engadget showed before, where it had not just your credit card but restaurant and store gift cards. if you don't use gift cards then this is irrelevant to you
the point is that nfc isn't just used for credit cards. for example it was also used to check into google i/o

Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.

Intratech said:
Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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+1 for now
However I won't deny the fact that having a phone with this feature which I won't use often or just incase IS better than having a phone without it.
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Its not just about paying for things either, you could have a train ticket on your phone linked to foursquare and when you tap to go through the barriers it checks you in at that location automatically.
Or being at places where areas or stands could have nfc so people can get more information like having one at a restaurant automatically puts the name, number and menu on your phone.
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nfc is going to come with next batch of s2 ?
i hav checked samsung's official website and it does not mention nfc anywhere..jst want to know if except korea any other has got nfc ? Like UK,etc...i also read that micro sd's are being made wid nfc support but they dont work in a metal tray.So guessing nfc will be added in our sim's by our respective carriers in the future if at all needed..i mean replace our old sim wid nfc included sim.Please correct me if im wrong,im jst pointing out that nfc takes a very small place and it can be placed even in a sim in near future.So not having nfc must not be an issue UNLESS IF SAMSUNG BRINGS NFC ON THERE NEXT OR 3RD BATCH OF S2 TO INDIA..early owners will be a whole lot of disappointd if sammy does so.anyway i doubt any country would get it 1st of all except korea ofcourse.

buttes said:
it's not as simple as just swiping a credit card, you have to take your wallet out of your pants and fumble around for your card. it's still probably faster than nfc still but the point of nfc imo is that if you have like a huge stack of cards like credit cards and gift cards, they're all just on your phone.
you wouldn't have to carry around all your cards on the off chance that you might want to use it that day. if you want to use your subway's gift card, it's already on your phone and you don't have to run home and get it
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They already have keychain quick devices that can load all your credit cards onto, and they are free.

Moandal said:
Quote from Ron Rule on twitter:
"How is it more 'convenient' to start an app, pick a card, enter PIN, then confirm vs. just swiping a credit card?"
You've got to admit he's got a point! Sometimes phones just aren't the best way to do things. I recently got my boarding card for a flight sent to my mobile as an MMS and it was a pain. It was a good way to show off my lovely SGS2 though! However next time I'm sticking to good old paper next time.
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Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?

rex-tc said:
Wouldn't it also be an identity theft's dream come true. Your phone #s, social media info, credit card info, all located in one device. Also don't forget what do you do if your phone dies and you need to make a purchase? Or if you drop your phone? Or it gets stolen? Or buy a new phone (have to resync all that crap again)? So it isn't going to completely replace your credit card. Also for the guy that so fumble for your wallet. I guess your phone is in hand 24/7?
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Actually I was wondering that the other day.
But I think it's worth having seeing as most of us have our hands in our phones a lot of the time, so of course in time, it'll probably become natural to those who use it.
I think that they need is a screen that can take a finger print and therefore NFC is only enabled when that certain fingerprint is on the screen. Sounds a bit far fetched but what are the bets that'll be implemented on phones in a year or two? There's only so many cores you can stick in one CPU

What everyone seems to be missing is that embedded NFC transactions won't just replace the swiping of a credit card, its able to do a lot more to change the way consumers shop and make transactions.
Let alone the multitude of other uses for NFC. People will start to use it for more than shopping as the technology becomes more widespread. Developers just need more incentive to be creative and really unlock it's potential.
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Intratech said:
Personally I don't trust the technology enough to entrust it with my credit and debit card details.
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It wouldn't be the first time someone has distrusted a new technology because they don't understand it. No offense. I'm sure companies will start public awareness campaigns to quell this.
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It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.

sleeco said:
It's another android system waiting to be hacked, bigtime.
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Please, more FUD
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i'm studying electrical and electronic engineering and i'm sure sooner hackers will try hack the NFC to steal credit card details. But NFC is good for health monitoring in the future.

I'm quite sick and tired of taking out my card out of my wallet every time I get on and get off a public transport, its so much hassle.
I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.

zoobzone said:
I would prefer to just scan the phone one one of those receivers since I always have my phone out on the public transport anyway.
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I noticed in that google nfc video that you still have to sign your signature on the receiver, kinda a let down imo as paying at the pumps or shopping online you don't need any signature.