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Hello All,
I hope nobody has discussed this topic. I did a search on XDA also, but no use. I would like get help from Android users on this topic.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.x versions. I see WM is supporting Video call option over 3G. But never heard of such in Android.
Yes Android is newer than WM and yet growing (very rapidly http://www.gsmarena.com/2009_world_handset_sales_ranked_iphone_os_eats_winmo-news-1469.php ).
Is anybody aware of 3G Video call for Android phones and also a support of Secondary camera for it? If yes, please post the device name.
I had already done a complete search on phones, but if any body is using a 3rd party app for video call, yes then also please post the app name and phone on which the app is used. Also post the Android version you use!
I hope I can see a list of device names, so that I can try one Android phone.
AFAIK, the current Android kernels don't support front camera's.
Looks like the recent Android (not sure about version) is supporting secondary camera.
Samsung SHW-M120S specs say that Secondary VGA camera is available.
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Hoping for a Video call app too...
Hiya Guys,
My wife has the T-Mobile Pulse which also has a camera on the front. unfortunatly she can only make photo's with it. no calls
Would be fun to get it working. I used it on my N73 like 3 years ago. Video calling for end users hasn't picked up.
Yeah, i'm missing also videocalls on new mobiles.
Seems like HTC dropped that functionnality from all its new phones. And other brands also.
I hope some manufacturers will put back the front cam on their models.
There are some rumors about new iPhone, which will have a front cam... Maybe that will be enough for the front cam to make its come back...
lets hope...
Since the camers is on the keyboard of the new Motorola Backflip, you can have the camera on the back or front of the phone (when the keyboard is open). So far the nearest we have is QIK and that tends to crash the camera after one use. Hopefully an app will come out?.?.?.?
There is nothing special about front camera which needs to be "supported" in kernel.
Implementation of a front camera is not done because android doesn't have a default video dialer. And while now there is at least one app which supports video conferencing, namely fring, phone makers do not make phones to suit a single application.
Yeah, videocalling on android would be pretty awesome. I use it quite often, and my girlfriend uses it all the time because that is the only way she can call her parents who are deaf.
Right now I'm using HTC Diamond but I'm searching for a nice HTC Magic to buy. It's pretty cheap and seems to be nice intro to Android world.
Saygus Vphone
the Saygus Vphone is supposedly going to be released this month on the verizon net work and thats its big claim to fame is 3G video calling, phone is like a moto droid with sliding keyboard, front camera
There's an app called Knocking that is an one-way video feed that works well. It is choppy but I look forward to future improvements as well as the addition of two-way feed.
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the Saygus Vphone is supposedly going to be released this month on the verizon net work and thats its big claim to fame is 3G video calling, phone is like a moto droid with sliding keyboard, front camera
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Link to the release of this phone?
Can't we just get like the files off the HTC Evo as that has a front facing camera, or does the WiMax and CDMA make it a bit harder for the GSM 3G users?
Qik is coming!
the saygus vphone will support it...although, no word on when it will come out (rumored to be may) but no updated news...could be like the others and slip a month...HOWEVER, the press release from sprint just revealed that there would be an "upgrade" available from Qik, at the time the EVO comes out -June 4th! which would enable mobile to mobile video calls or mobile to desktop. It was actually demonstrated tonight at their release event, although it had a few snags...should be good to go in a couple weeks though.
Hello All,
Well I am jsu another cray person like Balaji who started the tread who is like hungry for the front facing cam as the market has FRING offer video @ wifi and 3G. which is like pretty cool stuff. Also i did do a research that Android has the front feature option Taking the android tablets floating around. Will We have the ported WM phone use the front cam like the Kaiser or Touch HD . Inputs appreciated !!
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This is a good development. It will be cool to have this feature since the cam is now an indispensable gadget that captures every important moment.
fring use internrt for video calling same as skype, win phone , symbian use 3g network for vid calling..
this is why i still dont buy android phones.. i got 60hrs free vid call per month.. over 3g not internet!!...
I heard gingerbead (android 2.3) support for video call, but i dunno that support 3g network video calling
I looking this feature too, that's why I dont buy android phone, coz I cant make video call over 3g network
well, maybe you can take your time to review this phone since it use froyo inside and have a videocall front camera. but i dunno is it over 3rd party apps or built in.
I have no idea wht you guys are talking about. I have video calling on my HTC EVO using it's front camera. The phone came with Qik on it but I dont like it that much. It's too buggy, the same with Fling. The best I find is Tango which is available on the market. Also the new Gingerbread coming from Android will have it's own video calling app. so you wont have to use a third party app. Bar none the EVO is the best phone , I beleive , out there. Going back as far as the TY-TNII there have been phones with video calling (front ) cameras installed.
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I have no idea wht you guys are talking about. I have video calling on my HTC EVO using it's front camera. The phone came with Qik on it but I dont like it that much. It's too buggy, the same with Fling. The best I find is Tango which is available on the market. Also the new Gingerbread coming from Android will have it's own video calling app. so you wont have to use a third party app. Bar none the EVO is the best phone , I beleive , out there. Going back as far as the TY-TNII there have been phones with video calling (front ) cameras installed.
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this video calling in gingerbread, is it over 3g network or wi-fi only? i think it would be great if it can make a video call to other phone over 3g network
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this video calling in gingerbread, is it over 3g network or wi-fi only? i think it would be great if it can make a video call to other phone over 3g network
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??? you can make video calls even now on froyo.. been doing it for quite some time now.. you can make video chat/call using yahoo messenger, fring, tango and qik on 3G network..
Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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With the 2.2 Update, it's only barely come out officially. While its likely true that developers would have had internal builds to test out on, they only now have their solid base. You can see this with the desire being close to having it's froyo update to come out soon - looks like that we are going to be about a month or two past that.
I'm not dissapointed with this phone, love the interface so far, and the thought samsung put into things like divx playback.
I am a bit let down by not having it an easily to use device for development though.
For your mail woes, maybe you didn't do enough research.
It's common knowledge that only Froyo brings in Exchange support. There will be other apps, but until Froyo, there won't be any official google support.
For POP/IMAP (which'll be your Yahoo, Gmail and probably your Exchange if you ask your IT Support nice enough), look at K-9 Mail. It's fantastic. It's taken from the original mail client android comes with and built ontop, with things like IMAP IDLE (push) and some other very nice features.
My Galaxy S is simply fantastic, yes i have noticed a few slow-down issues, which i wasn't expecting, but the Samsung guys are working hard to fix them i'm sure, as are the hacker community here on XDA.
One thing i have noticed, where i am in London, i haven't seen a single advert for the Galaxy S. However they are selling really well, and getting very good feedback. I'm convinced Sammy did this to release the device, iron out the wrinkles, then attack it with Marketing. The hackers have already got the device running faster than a Nexus One with Froyo on it, with a slightly modded 2.1. Imagine what 2.2 will be like.
Simply amazing phone, don't regret choosing it over the Desire a single bit.
And FYI, Apples initial reaction to the Antenna issues were appauling, 'Don't hold it like that', is not the response you expect from one of the big 3. They are only now 'patching' the issue with a free rubber band, instead of actually fixing it.
You should try out k9. It's so much faster than the crappy stock email client. UI is good. You can refresh all mail account instead of having to do it one by one as in the stock. You an set up yahoo account whereas stock mail can't. There is a select all button for mass deletion, mark read, or mark unread, which is great. Performance is still slow compared to iPhone's but is way better than the stock. I also like the gesture feature to move from mail to mail like one would in viewing pictures. Try it. You might like it.
You may need a task killer as the phone multitasks really well, please consider that the phone will be like %150 better when froyo comes and for me this phone is a beast already
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Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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Yup yup yup, my experience is exactly the same as yours ...i also could not attache files on the email client program, although there is button that says 'attach files".
Yup it took long time for the email to start and download the emails....and everything else is slowed down.....
After having some more issues with the phone and the crappy GPS system.... i opened the map program and the gps initially showed my position on the map and as i moved , it didnt track my position, so after traveling more than 60km, i was still in my original position....
i just got fed up and sold the phone.....
everything about this phone hardware wise, the screen, big internal memory, 720p video recording, iphone style app browsing are very good, but when the basic function is as flawed as this, it just doesnt cut it....
K9 can attach files though. Just drop the stock mail client and half your problems are gone.
Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????
I cant help but to look a little suspiciously at some of the threads that have been started lately. There are a couple things that need to be fixed but the problems are not nearly has huge as they are made out to be. Not once did i have to wait 15 seconds for an ap to open. In fact after installing autokiller on the stock firmware the phone has been great with the excepton of the gps. The gps usually gets a lock quickly but it often loses connection for about 15 seconds or so making it impractical to use as a turn by turn solution. Driving for 60 miles with no lock is ridiculous, you are making things up or your phone is broken.
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I agree Dakine, note how he did once have an iphone. There is already a thread started for the iphone fanboys attacking the Samsung Galaxy.
Yes i have a few issues with my phone, only minor ones but you show me an absolutely perfect smartphone without one glitch and i guess we can then shut XDA down and all buy that one. It ain't gonna happen
I reckon someone's got an iphone 4 and because they can't use it they spend their time trolling other phone users with ridiculous remarks like 15 seconds to open an app?? i can choose to fire up any app and i don't wait no more than 6 seconds. Use a task killer to clean up the back ground and that time drops even further. Even with the problems i am still totally happy with this phone
Either someone had a very faulty phone which is possible (in which case send it back) or you have an iphone 4 on the desk (not in your hand because it won't work )
Maybe hire goons from iphone.
How well did apple handled the signal issues? first they start by telling you that you are holding it wrong. Then until more fact comes out that the problem are design defects they decided to offer users cheap case rather than refunds.
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Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????
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yeh, i had no probs setting up my Exchange account straight out of the box.
Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea
mirceal said:
Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea
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You cannot believe that a MICROSOFT OS works with MICROSOFT exchange easily?
/facepalm
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If you use yahoo, the sgs is not for you... lol
Been using my sgs for a month now, and love it. Just rooted it and been using launcher pro from day one. Also a good task killer makes a big dif. Using it for sat nav have been a pleasure aswell. No signal problems here.
Using the app called auto memory cleaner. Works out of the box.
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I have had the Galaxy S (vibrant) about three days, but have used it a lot.
First, as a behold 2 owner, I know that Samsung is a crappy company when it comes to support. If you are not willing to root and play with your phone, then I would def not go with Samsung. That said, they also make their phones the hardest to root. As I am sure the developers on this site are figuring out if they hadn't already.
I did decide to purchase this because of the phone already being rooted, I figured the community would have froyo on it within a month or two. Either way, I really like this phone.
I have not had any of the issues posted. A tad bit of lag when opening games, but other than that, even apps load instantly.
In short:
Samsung = Crap
Galaxy S = Best phone out with horrid customizations to android and firmware altogether.
I'd advise you not to base your opinion upon the expirience with the samsung galaxy i7500.
Since it's release, samsung already released 3 firmware updates, IN ONE MONTH.
They're working very hard to change their poor public image about software support.
I think it'd be wise to see what diraction this is going in before starting to judge them, and especially before stating stupid stuff like "Samsung=Crap"
regarding Exchange... i have a windows mobile phone, and not even itself works all that great with exchange
ironically enough, if i use gmail as my exchange server, everything works wonderfully.
now back to SGS, i'm quite confortable with K9 it works just fine and i can attach files
i think what you need to do, is to configure the "lagfix" that people has been talking about, that will solve half of your problem regarding speed
i'll also suggest to upgrade to the latest firmware
Omfg fed up of reading this bull
Hi guys,
Thanks for the hint with K9. It's exactly what I need for my acciunts from Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail.
Mircea
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Hi,
I work for Tango - the newest player in mobile video calling. Hopefully some of you have been able to play around with our app.
We released our application last week, and have been listening to users on some of the items we need to fix/improve with our application.
I am looking for 5-10 HTC EVO users that can help me out with beta testing our product.
The requirements:
1. You have a HTC EVO and feel comfortable installing Beta software on your phone.
2. You can devote 2-3 hours every few weeks to provide us feedback.
3. You feel comfortable having a video call with me (I promise I'm not that scary).
4. You will not share new features with our competitors.
I would prefer to find people who can test this weekend - we have a big fix regarding our battery consumption that we would like to release ASAP.
Please message me with the following:
1. Name/Email
2. Availability to test over the next few months
3. Experience with Android
4. Phone/Version/Rooted? etc.
Thanks!
Dmitry
I just used tango to video chat with my father. He has a new Evo and I have an Epic, it was great!!!
Wow! That was quick, already have 10 people signed up to test on the EVO.
I would like to find other phones to test with as well (especially Galaxy S), but if you feel very passionately that you can contribute to our beta testing, send me a PM and I'll try and add you to the list.
Thank you SO much!
is this better than skype
you have a PM sir
My wife and I have Evo's , both on Fresh rom. I could test if you want.
A couple questions....
Will Tango only video call/chat with other Tango users, or will it also be able to connect to Skype, Qik, Fring, etc..?
Will there also be a desktop version, for your computer? (This is mainly, if it will only connect to Tango users)
I ask, because I have a friend who has Skype on their computer. Skype blocks connection to Qik and Fring, and currently, iMovicha is only one way video (from what I understand).
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A couple questions....
Will Tango only video call/chat with other Tango users, or will it also be able to connect to Skype, Qik, Fring, etc..?
Will there also be a desktop version, for your computer? (This is mainly, if it will only connect to Tango users)
I ask, because I have a friend who has Skype on their computer. Skype blocks connection to Qik and Fring, and currently, iMovicha is only one way video (from what I understand).
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You're spot on about Skype blocking connection to Qik and Fring - for this reason we won't be integrating into their platform.
We're hoping to get a desktop client sometime in the near future, but are focusing on the mobile arena first.
Dmitry S @ Tango said:
You're spot on about Skype blocking connection to Qik and Fring - for this reason we won't be integrating into their platform.
We're hoping to get a desktop client sometime in the near future, but are focusing on the mobile arena first.
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Makes sense... Thanks for the fast reply. Will the app be able to connect to any other desktop clients?
Well I tried Epic to Evo, Epic to Iphone4 and Epic to Droid tonight, all worked flawlessly! Really freakin cool! Never seen a video chat thing be so simple!
I wish I had someone to video chat with. My sister has the iphone 3g, and no one I know has an Evo. I'm going to buy one for my GF for her birthday but that's all the way in March.
I'm down to help.
This APP needs to stop running in the background sucking down the EVO's juice. Many people ran and tested this APP last week and just about all of us unistalled it due to MAJOR battery drain and that APP not closing. Fix those things and this thing will be golden, much nicer than Qik and Fring.
Yeah this App needs some work, but looks promising. Was trying to get it to work all day, but a lot of the times I was getting, connection too slow or some other errors - and this was on WiFi. Anyways, tweak the bugs out and sure looks like a winner
I would be down to test it..
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I wish I had someone to video chat with. My sister has the iphone 3g, and no one I know has an Evo. I'm going to buy one for my GF for her birthday but that's all the way in March.
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I would buy her one early I'm sure she'd make it worth it!
just wondering how the progress of this is going...
Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
Here is a short list of features that I *love* about the Xoom so far:
- Holy **** the screen is sexy. Playing around with some of these apps on a 10" widescreen is awesome.
- Battery Life - I am charing the thing overnight, picking it up in the morning at 100% and then typically ending the day at 70+% remaining. This is fantastic to me.
- Portability and ease of access - Using my acer netbook was a pain in the ass because I had to wait for windows to load, the desktop to show up... the workspace to be ready. This is instant on and ready.
- RDP works well - I can get into my books from anywhere, generate invoices and e-mail them to a customer right there on the spot. It's impressive and when you're a technology company it just looks good.
- Email support - The exchange support is awesome. The stock mail client could be a little stronger but I am very happy that it supports HTML as the android 2.2 / 2.3 mail client on my Nexus One does not/did not.
- Available storage space - Not having the SD slot isn't bothering me one bit. I would go as far as saying I may not ever even need it. Shipping the product with 32GB of internal storage was the way to go.
- App support - Out of the box, like 90% of my apps worked fine (granted I only use heavily maybe 5 out of the 40 that i have installed). The one or two apps that were missing at launch I've already gotten word from the developers that tablet ready versions or updates are on the way.
- Connectivity - Being a first time Verizon subscriber I am very impressed with the radio and/or 3G network behind it. When my AT&T phone has a **** signal or no signal at all, this Xoom tablet still picks up signal. That's cool to me and is a point that I would like to make separately about the need for the 3G version. Sure, I can tether through my AT&T phone but then I've got two points of failure to worry about.
My thoughts and comments regarding media consumption on this device:
- Music - I haven't had any issues at all. I use Windows Media Player 12 as a part of Windows 7 to manage my music library and it works wonderfully with the Xoom. I sync music to it just like any other generic MP3/music player. I susbcribe to the Zune Pass so actually obtaining music for me is a function I do on my PC, and then just transfer the music as I want or need it. To say that I must be able to download or purchase XYZ song on the road isn't necessary... isn't that what Pandora is for? Use Pandora to listen to what you want until you are in a position to purchase music, then do that. That's how I approach it.
- Videos/Movies - I'm not really a big "watch videos/movies on your portable" guy to begin with. That said, I do like to use youtube to show off certain things like video game trailers or movie trailers or something... but you tube isn't the issue on the Xoom and I don't think ever has been or ever will be. Some people have complained that the Xoom doesn't play the same H.264 videos that they can play on their Droid. To them I say that I'm sorry but your droid isn't running a Tegra 2 chipset. I do agree that the Tegra 2 should be able to handle a lot but I didn't design it.. shrug, what do I know. Seemingly however... the thing plays H.264 just fine if its encoded properly and it looks damn good. I ripped Kill Bill Volume 1 to H.264 with a 2k bitrate and it looked fantastic on the Xoom screen. I will admit that I'm not the best guy to take advice from in this area.
My thoughts / comments on whiners:
- Flash / SD Card Support - I really don't have anything to say about this. Flash 10.2 will be out soon enough and as far as the SD card is concerned I don't even need it. I only have a 4GB Class 6 micro SD card what's that going to do for me? It's laughable in size compared to whats in the unit.. I would only want to put a matching 32GB sd card in and that's gonna be another $100 minimum. Now your $799 device is an $899 device... where's the complaint for that?
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
Nice review, particularly liked, "- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone."
Couldn't agree more!
Just ordered myself a Xoom and you've made me feel even better about my purchase. I'm a little worried about the video codecs thing but I'm sure Rockplayer or some such will sort that out. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone has particular questions about the device or advice on how to best use the device for their situation fire away.
agreed up to one point
i agree man, def however
google voice must be used on this. not because of texting as a cellphone but because it does much more and can be so amazingly baked with all other google products.
that my friend, is inarguable.
please help that at least here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978779
You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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Google Voice gives you a platform independent texting and voicemail interface. It does help to have it handy.
Why shouldn't your android tablet and phone be linked in some way so that you could receive notifications on either device and respond to them exactly like how webos works? Who could act like this is a ridiculous request??
Also, don't get your hopes up with regards to media playback. Tegra 2 is awful in that regard and has been proven on here in a different thread to be incapable of 720p high profile, which all galaxy s phones can do flawlessly.
Also, asking got certain features or if something is possible is not complaining.
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my second one is much more protected now thanks for the sad comment.
anyways, i am baffled at how one wouldnt want this, clearly people havent FOUND the use of it, to which i understand.
the customizations on notifications; be it text or voicemail is amazing and so useful, having this on your tablet WILL be a big plus trust me.
controlling voice mail set ups for particular people, having transcribed vm being able to foward that/ download that, controll recorded phone conversations, archiving, starring emails/texts
cwizardtx said:
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
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Couldnt you use an app to hand those stuff over your 3g/4g services?
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
martonikaj said:
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
Eclair~ said:
The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
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I agree. And its something that iOS and Android aren't even close to implementing. I see no reason why Google couldn't figure this out. I'm assuming that it will come later, probably with 2.4 for phones which will apparently implement what Google learned about 3.0 back into phones.
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
theahlenius said:
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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I use SMS Backup for this very reason and just put gmail label shortcuts on my tablet. If my phone is upstairs or in my bag, I can just check the email to see if I got any texts.
But it would be cool if I could automatically notify on my tablet.
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
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I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
Morkai Almandragon said:
I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
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I agree. People that make an argument like this are no better than apple in telling them what limits their device has.
And the guy wasn't complaining about airplane GPS, he was just wondering about it. There's a lot of people that do recreational flying and only do daylight clear weather trips. A GPS is great to tell you where you are, its not like they'd be using it to get from point A to point B or landing on a runway in fog or flying a commercial airliner.
Just because someone wants something better (for them) doesn't mean its a complaint, its merely a wish. Ideas and hopes make these devices better and inspire devs to create things we all love.
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Skype just updated it's android application to version 2.1 which now has support for 20 devices and support for video calls for devices running android 2.2+ :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ncluding-evo-3d4g-thunderbolt-sgs12-and-more/
I have an HTC Desire HD , did the update and in spite of only having one cam on the back, it is really supporting video calls as I made a test call and it shows the Desire HD's cam (in America HTC EVO) image ( I guess I have to put the device in front of a mirror if I want people to see me )
Anyway sadly enough it still does not support Honeycomb, thus our ASUS Transformer tablets, I perform the update on the ASUS Transformer, but still it doesn't show video conferencing options... Maybe this time some developer will hack it for us....
This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.
pinkster said:
This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.
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Looks like you forgot about the coming of google+. Did you?
Well, here's hoping that someone hacks the APK to give us some video calling love soon
Lawliet said:
Well, here's hoping that someone hacks the APK to give us some video calling love soon
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I agree. And when they do it successfully, they are going to have to fight off the thank yous and open a Swiss bank account from all the donations.
Have you kissed a Developer's ass today?
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pinkster said:
This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.
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Not only that, but an IPad version of Skype also was released this week with video calls capability!
LOL, this means that the Toshiba Folio 100 that I soled for my transformer supports video calls in skype now...
I'm sure we will get video support... but when :S
fdomi said:
Not only that, but an IPad version of Skype also was released this week with video calls capability!
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It took Skype over a year to come out with Ipad version, let's hope it doesn't take this long for HC...
I wouldn't get my hopes up. I read an article saying that they are now focusing their efforts on the Windows Phone platform. Makes sense since Microsoft bought them (/is buying them).
I wonder why Skype are so reticent to adding video calling to Honeycomb tablets. nVidia demoed Skype HD running on Tegra 2 back as early as January of this year. But I haven't heard anything since just the rather lame excuse of only having it supported on a limited number of Android devices and that more would be coming soon. When Google release Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to unify tablets and smartphones, I wonder what will happen then. Will Skype still be trying to switch video support on and off for different devices.
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rwniel said:
I wonder why Skype are so reticent to adding video calling to Honeycomb tablets. nVidia demoed Skype HD running on Tegra 2 back as early as January of this year. But I haven't heard anything since just the rather lame excuse of only having it supported on a limited number of Android devices and that more would be coming soon. When Google release Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to unify tablets and smartphones, I wonder what will happen then. Will Skype still be trying to switch video support on and off for different devices.
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Forget mobile platforms, Skype can't even manage to code proper software on the desktop. Not only have they not made Skype compatible with most high-def webcams, they've actually gone out of their way to make it *incompatible* intentionally, with all but one specific brand's webcams.
Getting high-def video working on Skype for Windows is possible, but requires you to run an old version, avoid it getting automatically updated to a newer version, and then manually editing files to get it to accept the video feed at the right resolution.
Until they get their act together on other platforms, I really don't see things improving on Android at any significant rate.
The new skype app also has this annoying feature that everytime you get network connection it starts Skype by itself.
I used to be able to use "Kill Skype" to kill it, now I have to log out from Skype.
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Looks like you forgot about the coming of google+. Did you?
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No, because google+ sucks and must be avoided.
However, I thought skype said it works on the Xoom ? So its just them slacking. And its very dubious programming behavior to check your app against a list to see if it works. - just do it right.
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No, because google+ sucks and must be avoided.
However, I thought skype said it works on the Xoom ? So its just them slacking. And its very dubious programming behavior to check your app against a list to see if it works. - just do it right.
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I myself do not think that Google+ sucks, in fact I find it quite good. But I am an old and regular user of Skype I even have paid packages to make skypeout calls and I have many friends and family members in Skype all living abroad, so the audio and video calls are truly a blessing and justified thing for me, not a luxury or a "nice-to-have" option. Right now, whether we like it or not, Skype is a much more popular, thus massive , platform than google talk or google+ , so it would really make my day when Skype brings video capability to Android 3.0+.