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Screw the EVO, I'll hold out for this.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2010/08/05/htc-glacier-dual-core-snapdragon-cpu-smartphone-can-it-be-beaten/
Hopefully Sprint will get a version. I know it's gsm, but I hold out hope for a dual core snapdragon.

I still think the Galaxy phones with the HummingBird and GPU will own for quite a while. Technically your hero is dual Core already. Just one core is really tiny and slow (modem core).

By the time that comes out, something better will be on the horizon like it is right now. Phone technology is advancing fast. I'm going for the galaxy.
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Kcarpenter said:
I still think the Galaxy phones with the HummingBird and GPU will own for quite a while. Technically your hero is dual Core already. Just one core is really tiny and slow (modem core).
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How can we make that core faster?

jerry43812 said:
How can we make that core faster?
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HAHA, it would be able to demodulate the wireless signal faster, thats about it lol.
I assume it could probably be done if the kernel does anything with it...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm 33 years old. My first computer was an Tandy 1000. My next computer was a Pentium 166. I remember when processors were coming out every month or so, edging the cap up just a little bit higher. I remember them having a starting price worth more than the car I owned at the time.
So pick a phone, buy it and be happy with it for a year. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll never buy anything. If you always get pissy when you buy something and something better comes out, just stop buying.

subcypher said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm 33 years old. My first computer was an Tandy 1000. My next computer was a Pentium 166. I remember when processors were coming out every month or so, edging the cap up just a little bit higher. I remember them having a starting price worth more than the car I owned at the time.
So pick a phone, buy it and be happy with it for a year. If you're always waiting for the next best thing, you'll never buy anything. If you always get pissy when you buy something and something better comes out, just stop buying.
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Wow you're old (turn 30 next year... I have to take my shots when I can)

I want a phone that will run full flash. The rep told me the hero could do it, but when I got home, SURPRISE!!! I'm eligible for an upgrade in october, but I'll wait until whatever replaces the EVO comes out.

bcarter2000 said:
I want a phone that will run full flash. The rep told me the hero could do it, but when I got home, SURPRISE!!! I'm eligible for an upgrade in october, but I'll wait until whatever replaces the EVO comes out.
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It does run flash... just not full flash

I'm probably going to hold out and wait for the HTC OMGWTFBBQ.

im actually thinking about giving the evo a second chance now that 2.2. is out for it. i now have an extended battery for it too. i won't touch a samsung phone.

Why you would consider the Samsung over the evo. The battery life is not much greater on the galaxy S series. Got a few co workers with both version (vibrant, captivate). We compare and contrast every day. They are all great phones but would not swap none 4 the other. Plus the evo got that 4g along with a front facing cam only if u were thinking of the epic 4g.
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jahnile said:
Why you would consider the Samsung over the evo. The battery life is not much greater on the galaxy S series. Got a few co workers with both version (vibrant, captivate). We compare and contrast every day. They are all great phones but would not swap none 4 the other. Plus the evo got that 4g along with a front facing cam only if u were thinking of the epic 4g.
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as i said before i wouldn't touch a samsung phone.

Got you, just was curious.
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I can't imagine needing a dual-core CPU phone, how much quicker than a modded N1 or Evo can you really get, not saying I wont buy one when they are out but still..

The Sprint Galaxy S has a section on XDA... I might go for that. I'm not picky about what brand name the phone is as long as I can crack smack hack and whack.

I'm 25 and my first computer was a commador 64. I didn't get another until Pentium 4 was out. That's a big jump. Yup always something a little better around the corner.
I can't wait till I can run Wine and play my game on my phone.
As far as saying you don't need faster than the evo or n1, it depends on what you are trying to run. Try putting windows 7 on that old comadore. What's the famous quote by bill gates saying computers would never need more than a few megs of ram?
And I wouldn't want to get a Samsung either but I do like the proc/gpu and physical keyboard
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I'm up for upgrade in December from my Hero, but hopefully this rumored HTC "Sabor" is coming out around that time..
Supposedly it's the "Evo 2" and sounds VERY nice.
Link missing, since I can't post it... Recap below:
5. HTC SABOR- HOLY CRAP. Do you remember me talking about the HTC Scorpion, a rumored 1.5 ghz device? Well Sprint gave that one up. Sad? NOOOOO! Instead they are getting the HTC Sabor (code name ofcourse) that is a 2ghz (or possible dual core depending on who you talk to) device to compete with the 2ghz moto device coming to Verizon wireless late this year!!!! THANKYOU SPRINT?! This change was recently made as this phone will be the successor of the Evo and will hit shelves either Q4 2010 or Q1 2011. This is all dependent on the moto release date. Be looking for an over 1000 res screen (possibly that 1270 res Google is allowing), android 3.0 (gingerbread), 2 cams one being a 10 mp, 1080p recording,& kickstand =]. This device will essentially be the Evo 2, and is rumored to be the gingerbread flagship device. Naturally WiMAX is expected. More on this one hopefully coming soon.
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Right now I'm impressed with the hero but I feel a little behind without a sbapdragon so n Sept I'm upgrading to an Evo and I'll keep it for about a yr and a half...
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I really wish we could have the Incredible on Sprint...

what will be your next upgrade?

been talking to alot of people and i get mixed responses. some like that **** faced windows phone 7 that i think was drawn up by a 2nd grader.
some want to wait for the next gen palm pre, which i may look into as well depending on specs.
epic or evo... these two are on the top of my list!
or wait and see what other droid phones sprint comes out with by 2011. aka hero2 or desire.
so anyways what do you think might be your next move from the hero?

I don't want an Evo..too damn big..and I don't want another clunky phone with a physical keyboard after getting used to my touch keyboard on my hero,coming from 5 TP2's....So..I guess a Desire would be nice if Sprint ever gets it,or a Hero 2 if that ever comes out..A little bit bigger screen would be nice with HD capabilities along with a 2g processor and 1g of memory
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A9 dual processor probably be a Samsung. I skipped the evo because these.
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ASimmons said:
A9 dual processor probably be a Samsung. I skipped the evo because these.
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a dual core in a phone?
i would imagine they would have to give us bigger capacity batteries for all of that power.

fixxxer2008 said:
a dual core in a phone?
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Yeap. I'd probably ditch Android in favor of a new WebOS phone too, as long as the hardware wasn't absolute crap like the Pre. That's the only reason I went Android actually, because of the damn hardware on the Pre.

mrinehart93 said:
Yeap. I'd probably ditch Android in favor of a new WebOS phone too, as long as the hardware wasn't absolute crap like the Pre. That's the only reason I went Android actually, because of the damn hardware on the Pre.
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same here i owned the pre & pixi and i loved webos but the hardware sucked. im hearing the next gen pre will be very good. i may make the switch back i dunno i love droid as well.
the one OS i absolutely cannot stand is that wp7. that UI is the worst thing ive ever seen.

Mac11700 said:
I don't want an Evo..too damn big
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it really isn't that bad once you have one for awhile. going back to the hero was a pain, the hero was soo tiny.

Evo isn't really all that large, and it's not like phones will really be getting smaller, ha.

I'm getting the Hero tommorow and when i upgrade im probably gonna upgrade to hero 2 or anything newer in like a year.

ubnub82 said:
I'm getting the Hero tommorow and when i upgrade im probably gonna upgrade to hero 2 or anything newer in like a year.
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good to see some michigan love in here. i used to live in macomb county by sterling heights myself. im in grand rapids now.

Well.. I'll get whatever next-gen HTC phone comes out. My upgrade date isn't til April because I splurged before my upgrade date to get the Hero on launch day. I'm gonna get whatever replaces the Evo eventually.

Check these out this is why I held off on the the EVO or the other phones from this years second quarter. I cant wait for this.... as for the power think of the dual/quad core laptops and netbooks they have, they have power on demand and then the processor scale the freq back when not in use.
I freaking cant wait!!!
Samsung Dual Core Phone
Samsung Dual Core Processor
Dual Core LG Phones
Dual Core Qualcomm Proccessor

i'm pretty sure I can live with a 1GHz processor when I get my Evo in October. What use would I have for a dual core processor in a phone? I'm not playing games on the thing, I'm using the internet and certain select apps. If I want to play games, I'll get a PS3 or something

tatonka_hero said:
i'm pretty sure I can live with a 1GHz processor when I get my Evo in October. What use would I have for a dual core processor in a phone? I'm not playing games on the thing, I'm using the internet and certain select apps. If I want to play games, I'll get a PS3 or something
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There's an old saying you should remember..
" It's better to have it and not need it,than to need it and not have it.."
Once you go to a larger screen,you will need more horse power under the hood.I have a co-worker who has to have the absolute latest thing out when it comes to cell phones..The guy has about 10 of them and a couple on different carriers..He has a Evo..and is getting a Epick as soon as he can..that's just hoiw he is..but he thinks my rooted Hero is da ****s and is ever bit as fast as his Evo the way it is stock. While I do like the large screen on it for viewing things,to me it comes down to the form factor of it. I just don't like how it feels in my hand and feels ungainly to me when I try to make a call on them..But hey..to each his own as they say.. I don't know what you can oc a Evo or Epick to,but I guess that's a option too if you need to bump it up some
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when the hell is sprint going to announce some new lineups? lots of rumors floating around about a new palm pre & desire.

http://fonefrenzy.com/2010/08/03/fall-sprint-4g-device-lineup-includes-hp-palm-webos-4-720p-4g-handset-and-more-android-flavors/

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when the hell is sprint going to announce some new lineups? lots of rumors floating around about a new palm pre & desire.
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you heard about the desire z and desire hd right? those could possibly come to sprint

Mac11700 said:
There's an old saying you should remember..
" It's better to have it and not need it,than to need it and not have it.."
Once you go to a larger screen,you will need more horse power under the hood.I have a co-worker who has to have the absolute latest thing out when it comes to cell phones..The guy has about 10 of them and a couple on different carriers..He has a Evo..and is getting a Epick as soon as he can..that's just hoiw he is..but he thinks my rooted Hero is da ****s and is ever bit as fast as his Evo the way it is stock. While I do like the large screen on it for viewing things,to me it comes down to the form factor of it. I just don't like how it feels in my hand and feels ungainly to me when I try to make a call on them..But hey..to each his own as they say.. I don't know what you can oc a Evo or Epick to,but I guess that's a option too if you need to bump it up some
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The Evo doesnt overclock much. The highest kernel Iv personally seen was 1.2 something and most ppls phone would freeze when clocked to it. Mine can run right under 1.2ghz stable.

I've been upgradable for a while now. Nothing has really caught my eye. I'm waiting for a stock Android phone. I have a feeling my waiting is in vain.
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Personally i want an epic if the battery life can hold up i get 20 to 24 hours out of hero
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HTC EVO Shift 4G spotted

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/evo-shift-4g-aka-htc-knight-speedy-shows-up-in-accessory-pic/
Source: Engadget
Pictures of the upcoming htc evo shift 4g are spotted in an accessories ad.

SilverStone641 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/08/evo-shift-4g-aka-htc-knight-speedy-shows-up-in-accessory-pic/
Source: Engadget
Pictures of the upcoming htc evo shift 4g are spotted in an accessories ad.
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they really should have made it a 4 inch or bigger screen, still still will be a deal breaker for me! but Dual core would be very nice

I saw this and was highly disappointed that the screen wasn't bigger. Hopefully when all the real specs come out it'll make up for it.
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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.

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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.
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i never said it would have one i said it would be nice if it did. ill wait to see what the official specs are before i make a choice, i still wont give up my EVO!!!

I think the size is nice I wouldn't mind it they probably didn't wanna make it 2bulky since there's Gna be a keyboard on it now
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Looks like an eris mixed with incredible and evo.
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It's not a dual core. They picked apart a rom for it and it's the same newer version of the snapdragon as the G2.
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Basically sounds like its a G2 running Sense.
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Or a US Desire Z?

I want knight to have 4 inch screen or bigger and a 1080 p video capture and 12 mp camera and 10 hotspot people anf dualcore with ati graphics with and oled screen
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HTC does sport a FRONT FACING CAMERA and Gingerbread!
HTCV KNIGHT/SPEEDY etc....
To those waiting for a smaller EVO w/keyboard (though I like my Evo's screen size)....i came across this article a few hrs. ago. If the specs are true...I am buying one....I was not planning to get one without a front facing camera....but now I will get this....
Although..I wish that new HTC PRO fro windows was the next EVO #2. AND I DO NOT PLAN on buying those UGLY FUDGLY covers.......ewwww.....lol.
http://www.rethink-wireless.com/2010/12/09/htc-knight-rumoured-ride-sprint-jan-6.htm

Looks like it will be a decent phone, but I had a Hero before my Evo, and a main reason I upgraded is a bigger screen and better processor. Now at least I won't regret buying my Evo when this one comes out. I love the design, feel, and huge screen on the Evo. Plus I don't need a slide out keyboard, speakers or whatever they may invent. But we'll have to see when some more pics come out from this new phone.

My guess is they're marketing this more towards the female population. I can't speak for all of them, but as far as my GF is concerned, she doesn't want a phone the size of the evo. Sounds like a mini-evo would be perfect

SilverStone641 said:
My guess is they're marketing this more towards the female population. I can't speak for all of them, but as far as my GF is concerned, she doesn't want a phone the size of the evo. Sounds like a mini-evo would be perfect
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Yeah, this is a little underwhelming.. I definitely would not use my available upgrade to get this over my EVO. I don't think this is their next flagship, more like you said, a way to broaden their audience even more.
It does look like a solid phone, just not quite an upgrade from the EVO

Actual photo of the phone with the keyboard open is out:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/11/htc-evo-shift-4g-knight-speedy-gets-leaked-picture-january/

not impressed tbh. ill stick with my evo until i switch to verizon later this winter.

Sooo... What's next after the Epic?

I've seen a lot of talk about new phones but is there a successor to the Samsung Epic?
I talked my wife into buying the Epic as well and we love them but we always keep our eyes on that 2 year mark (which is coming up this Summer)... wondering if we are going to stay in place with the Epics or save for something else.
We are particularly fond of the physical keyboard... don't want to jump to a phone without one.
Love reading all the great threads on here... keep up the great info.
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The EVO 3D seems to have caught the Epic community's eye. The Epic can do nearly everything that the new EVO can, except the Evo has a better CPU (dual core), TV out (hdmi), and it's 3D option.

No top tier phones with keyboards have been announced yet by Sprint. Samsung has created the "Galaxy S II" which could be used to produce an Epic 2 but that is between Samsung & Sprint to decide.
I believe Sprint is releasing a windows phone 7 HTC device with keyboard, but I'm not interested in wp7.
How are you hitting the 2-year mark when the Epic was released last summer?

Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.

9kracing said:
Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
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Ice Cream 3.1
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yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.
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FTFY
Wait...this is Samsung, God forbid they put out an up to date phone.
I know it hasn't been released yet. But I/O is here in what 4 days?
I theorize 3.1 because it will be a merge of the Tablet and Phone branches of Android, and I doubt they would down grade the version number of the tablets. so the number would have to be >=3.1

Yeah the 4.3" screen may be a problem for those looking for an Epic 2. I think it would be absolutely huge. I personally am going for a non-kb device next. After all, the KB on the epic was pretty useless with all the skipped characters which forced me to become comfortable with swype.
I'd be all over the Evo 3D if it had an amoled display. Any phone w/o amoled will need to have very strong contrast levels with very low black's otherwise it will annoy the heck out of my to pay for a phone upgrade with a lesser quality screen.
I figure I'll be on the Epic until November 2012 since they removed the 1 year upgrade from my plan. At that point I may just keep it and flash over to Boost mobile for the uber cheap monthly rates.

I bought my Epic outright... used... I jumped into Sprint service with a blackberry curve... bought an EVO and Epic cash/used... but in excellent shape.

I've got another year before I start to look,everything else will be "obsolete"
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Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.

I'd rather have super thin with no keyboard than slightly fat and a mostly working keyboard
And I would like to have latest version of touch wiz
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digiblur said:
Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.
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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....

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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....
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Voice-to-text is fine if you're not in a meeting or something...
"this guy is so boring, I hope he stops droning on and on soon... oh, crap, he can hear me"

I was looking at the evo3d but i am going to wait till the phone is launched first only because i think the phone is going to be locked down alot and i think root will take some time. I will probably be looking at the gsII. I want my amoled screen and 4.3 is an awesome screen size for me. Plus sammy has done pretty good about not locking phones down so far.

I've got till early Fall of next year before I start looking at amazing phones again (just think what they'll have then...lol)
BUT, if I were looking for a new phone, the EVO 3D is definitely the way to go.

In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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According to my local corp store, if i replace my phone 2 more times (already done 3 exchanges) then i will be able to switch to different device which if i have to exchange this epic 2 more times i am jumping ship to htc and if evo 3d is out then i am going to it.
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Oh man I hope you are right. If so I'm getting it then. Thanks for the information bro
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In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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Even I am waiting for the Galaxy 2. It's gonna rock!

I'm going to be in heaven if we get Gingerbread or even 2.4 Ice Cream on another version of the Epic 4G with a keyboard and that dual-core 1.2mhz processor, S-AMOLED + display...AND I'm hoping sprint will keep the keyboard on their version...cuase idk where id be for all the long ass E-mails and text messages without some physical buttons to press....and ohh my what the developers would do once they get their hands on that 1.2 dual core...maybe wishfull thinking but can anybody else say 2.0Ghz Overclock....I've already seen the EVO SHIFT 4G OC'D to 1.8 (which I'm thinking about jumping ship towards to be honest if we don't get something new)...I think that would be a realistic expectation.
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The Evo 3D sounds cool, and the 3D option is interesting. If anyone has see the Ninteno 3DS, I assume it is similar to the technology the evo will have. The 3DS is cool but if that's what the evo screen looks like in 3D, HTC has some work to do.
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Need some advice please

Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!

Honestly the evo runs fine for what you are looking for, but considering you are signing a new contract with sprint you might as well try for a newer phone. If you don't like it return it within the 14 days or if you keep it for more and decided you still don't like it you can most likely sell/trade it for cash and evo 4g. Just my opinion, but right now the evo 4g does everything I want so I have no complaints.
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Here's the problem....the evo is a great phone but its over a year old. Signing up with sprint means you won't be available for an upgrade for two years. By that time this phone will be extremely old and no Bueno. Now if u buy one for cheap off eBay or Craigslist then cool do that and ull be able to get an upgraded phone whenever the quad core lte phones come out next year. If not then get the newest greatest phone out right now cause atleast it won't be as out dated as the evo will be when ur next upgrade rolls around. I've heard great things about the epic 4 g touch and evo 3d and photon. This is just my opinion. I love my evo just looking down the road u know

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Hey guys,
Due to a recent disagreement with Verizon (I said they suck, they said they don't), I will be switching over to Sprint.
The problem I have now is trying to pick a phone. Everyone keeps telling me get the Epic 4g Touch but there is something about it I don't like. I am drawn to the Evo 4g because it already has a developer base and cm7 support. I'm not a poweruser, I just like my phone to be snappy when I'm running a couple of apps. Is this phone even worth considering, or do you guys think it's kind of at the end of its life cycle and I should check out a different device?
Thanks for any responses!
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Tell you what, you go get that epic 4g touch and I'll trade you my mint evo with all the extras. ;p
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Lol. Deal. Thanks for the responses guys. I'll search for a cheap one on craigslist and wait for the next gen phones.
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go with the evo

yea i was at the same crossroad...evo 4g or 3d? i chose the 4g because of the screen size...im a movie watcher and i have pretty large hands so i needed the biggest screen with the cheap cost...now im a good rom flasher and my phone stays charged for more than 48 hours....ive learned alot about the evo from this site...its like the devs here cherish the evo more than anything lol so my advice....evo all the way

The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..

I have an EVO 4G but I've played with the Samsung Galaxy SII and I'd recommend it going forward. The phone is super light, the screen size is a bit larger, which you may not like, but it's also dual core and really snappy.

ReapersDeath said:
The htc evo 4g WAS the best phone that sprint has. Until the samsung galaxy s II came out and another i cant remember the name of.. there also is the evo 3d which is newer and has a better looking ui.. SO basicly i would go with one's of those. but the 3d with the camera is just a video trick..
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Not to disagree with ya, so don't get me wrong. Hardware wise, as in processors, screen resolution and such, I absolutely agree with your statement.
However, as far as the best phone on Sprint, it's still the OG Evo. Here's why, (IMHO) 1) best dev support of any device offered by sprint. 2) the og's radios are superior to the e4gt, and the 3d. 3) no hboot 1.5 problems like the 3d, and no jigs or Odin, like the e4gt.
In my opinion, formed from reading the development forums of nearly every high end device available, aside from 1 or 2 phones offered by other carriers, the E4G is the most complete well rounded phone. Sure there are devices with way faster dual core processors, tons more ram and system memory, but they all seem to be flawed. Either weak radios, crappy GPS, wifi, or Bluetooth, and some just have cheap craftsmanship.
We lucked out my friends. I doubt we will see another phone as well rounded and game changing as the Evo. I think HTC realised that by making a phone that is too good, they cant keep selling as many phones. People got the evo and held on to it. Thus slowing down the new phone upgrade cycle. I imagine that factors in to why the Sammy GS2's in the U.S. fall short of the international version.
I'm sitting on two upgrades right now and will be, 'till we get lte and (fingers crossed) quad core.
Just my opinion, point out the phone we have available that doesn't have any shortcomings compared to the OG and I'll go get one tomorrow.
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I would get a iphone 4s anf sell it to buy another phone. Apple fans will give u like $400+evo for a 4s. I would say you should get a evo 3d. From my personal experience its just better than the og evo in every way but price. U wouldnt go wrong with a epic touch is samsung is ur thing but sense UI is better for everyday users.