I have htc legend rooted
and my HBOOT 0.43.0001
what does it mean?and what is it s-on\s-off?
The HTC Legend, when rooted using the usual methods doesn't really have access to the System partition.
In order to have access to this, you have to have a "S-OFF" or "Security-Off" Phone.
S-on means that there is the default protection that prevents you to write to /system and /recovery partitions. If you want more information you can visit alpharev site: http://alpharev.nl
What are the benefits?
You can alter the files from the protected partitions as if they were on a sdcard for ex. No more "read only" rights, and so on.
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Meocene said:
What are the benefits?
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Rapier said:
You can alter the files from the protected partitions as if they were on a sdcard for ex. No more "read only" rights, and so on.
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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With great power, comes great responsibility. It's a great tool (I'm S-OFF, myself) but just be careful.
I understand what turning the security off enables.
But what are the benefits?
Personally, I haven't found any benefits to being S-OFF.
I've found that using the Clockwork Recovery doesn't work sometimes and it's handy to have a PC handy just in case...
With s-off you can edit files in the /system partition without the need of switching to recovery, but i don't think that it is a functionality needed by many people.
If you have s-off you can also flash a recovery, therefore you won't need anymore to use fake-flash for booting in clockworkmod.
On some rooting guides for phones like the DHD it says you need to be S-OFF to flash a custom ROM. How come we've been doing this on our S-ON Legends? I don't understand how being S-OFF is any different than S-ON for a Legend user?
I've probably got the wrong end of the stick here...
EDIT: Something to do with ROMs having to be signed by HTC, but none of the custom roms for Legend have to be used on an S-OFF phone despite not being signed by HTC?
S-OFF unlocks the bootloader, you can install basically anything on any partition on the phone. This lets us install a custom recovery in the recovery partition. It also allows to boot custom kernels without flashing them (I believe)
Rooting with S-ON just allows you to boot a custom ROM with root access and no read/write capabilities in the /system partition (unless you have aufs)
S-OFF unlocks the bootloader, you can install basically anything on any partition on the phone. This lets us install a custom recovery in the recovery partition. It also allows to boot custom kernels without flashing them (I believe)
Rooting with S-ON just allows you to boot a custom ROM with root access and no read/write capabilities in the /system partition (unless you have aufs)
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You can flash custom Kernels without being S-OFF. Done it myself many, many times. You don't need to be S-OFF to flash kernels.
S-ON as you said, gives read/write access to the /system partition while the phone is running. Unless you're looking at theming the phone yourself, or you want to access the /system and /recovery partitions it's not really required.
As I mentioned previously, I can get into recovery via Clockwork, but it's spotty, and I don't really like the idea of flashing a new ROM if I'm not near a PC that can drop me into Recovery. Rambo, I am not!
S-on means that there is the default protection that prevents you to write to /system and /recovery partitions. If you want more information you can visit alpharev site: http://alpharev.nl
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Hats off to entropicamente for posting the above - it's THE best place to go. I would warn that if you're a Bell Legend user, the download there will not work. There's a download on this forum for the .iso to S-OFF your phone.
Ultimately, with the number of "What benefits does this give me?" questions, it should probably be avoided for now.
entropicamente said:
With s-off you can edit files in the /system partition without the need of switching to recovery, but i don't think that it is a functionality needed by many people.
If you have s-off you can also flash a recovery, therefore you won't need anymore to use fake-flash for booting in clockworkmod.
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probably wrong, but i don't think i am using fake flash...
my legend's s-on, but to get to clockworkmod i just boot in through rom manager...
(guessing someone's about to tell me that that is fake flash...)
EDIT: missed marclh1992's post.
so in other words i'd be able to replace the stock htc recovery (accessed holding back+power) with clockworkmod, for example?
Yes, you can install clockwork mod into your recovery partition if you are S-OFF.
Sent from my S-OFF Bell Canada HTC Legend.
would I flash the CWM recovery image with fastboot? Where can I find the .img. I can only find the CWM recovery as a zip
joggerman said:
would I flash the CWM recovery image with fastboot? Where can I find the .img. I can only find the CWM recovery as a zip
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Look in the development section. There is a thread called "Recovery 3" .. there you will find the .img file..
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many thanks
is this why the busybox installer from the market cant do its work on installing busybox? i'm s-on tho....
does having superuser mean you phone is S-OFF ?
vip333 said:
does having superuser mean you phone is S-OFF ?
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No, superuser just lets you "log in" to the root user account. S-OFF allows you to write to any part of the phone essentially. Among other things.
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I was wondering if it would be possible to flash a ROM without an S-OFF hboot. The logic is as follows:
The NAND lock is performed by the hboot.
Flashing is performed by the recovery OS.
We can now disable the NAND lock using a kernel module regardless of the hboot.
Could the recovery OS disable the NAND lock and flash a ROM without using an S-OFF hboot?
There are a few reasons against flashing the S-OFF hboot, namely, it's less risky, and easier to revert to factory if a warranty claim needs to be made.
Simple answer NO.
Long answer, you can't flash a custom rom without a custom recovery.
You can't flash a custom recovery without and unlock hboot.
So what ur saying will not work because u will not be able to flash the recovery.
Also no risk if u follow the steps. And reverting is as easy as running pc10img
Also this needs to be move to gen thread
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Technically, you can probably use dd to reflash the recovery partition instead of hboot, which would allow you to install custom ROMs because the NAND is always unlocked in recovery.
But nobody is going to do that, and there are catches: even then you still can't write to /system without Android without the hack S-OFF is best.
I agree that S-OFF is best, but there might be people who are reluctant to flash an hboot. I figured ROMs can include the kernel module that disables the lock, so they would be able to write to /system.
If it's easy to restore to factory though, I guess there isn't much point in working around the lock all the time like that. S-OFF it is then.
If I missed it, would it be possible to go S-OFF, flash a custom ROM, then go S-ON again?
ok this is a debate i had going on in dz forum. you can flash clockwork recovery via rom manager and prob dd cmd after running the wpthis.ko. you can also perm root it as we know. it has been done in dz forum.
now i agree with you. at this point you should be able to boot into recovery and flash whatever you want and have perm root. however WP will still be on when booted into andriod which can be good and bad depending on how you look at it. (noobs vs pain in ass). this leaves u 2 options. reboot to recovery for any changes, or run the wpthis.ko make changes, reboot.
that being said. heres the prob with having s-on. if you screw up your phone you have less of a chance fixing it. (currently helping someone in this position).
ot anyone know of stock rom in update.zip format?
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You can't flash a custom recovery without and unlock hboot.
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That's not true......i'm proof
Would need atleast a recovery which uses test keys or simply ignores them.
With the wpthis.ko u could dd other imgs but not enough for a rom as you can not access the system while you are on it.
If you had an S-off hboot u can atleast fastboot the images without the recovery.
Right?
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Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
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Paul released Visionary R14 "with r/w"
I used it on a fresh S-ON stock ROM and it roots OK, I tick "mount r/w" and seems OK
Then I boot to bootloader and I see "S-ON", BUT I CAN enter Clockwork and flash my nandroid back
Has somebody else tested it ??
With r/w achieved, seems S-OFF will not be necessary anymore ??
This will save many noobs from bricking their phones
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Weird.
I'd prefer S-OFF though. Dunno why, just an engineering hboot seems better to me. Like the splash screens. And stuff.
so I can use visionary now instead of S-OFF and install roms and all is that the case?
Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
so as long as the ROM you flash doesn't contain a recovery...
That's why this thread is up for discussion, I'd like to hear comments and experiences.
I'd stick to S-OFF in the mean time.
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Problem is you need S-OFF to flash clockwork,
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...but when you first install the ENG HBOOT you flash it at this point (via dd) - so is the recovery partition not writable but the HBOOT is?
I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
Thanks in advance
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I just do not get the difference between temp root, and then enabling temproot on boot, and permanent root.
I mean if you temp root and then enable temproot on boot, the device will be root every time, so why should you perm root?
Can anyone answer me?
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I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
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I'm sure someone else will have a better answer, but from my own point of view, with the temp root, you haven't properly rooted it really. The phone effectively hasn't been rooted, but you're rooting it specifically every time you boot up, because any writes to the system aren't being saved in permanent storage, only in cache memory (lost when shut down). What if something goes wrong with that process ?
Seems to me it's much better to have the rooting actually written to the phone's permanent storage (NAND).
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Thanks for the answer, what if something goes wrong? isn't this method currently the safest?
I was just wonder, because I would like to root my desire z but seems to be quite unstable still with the methods availble, and until there is no ROM that supports A2SD then I do not see a reason for either perm root or S-Off.
So that is why I was wondering.
Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
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Gtrab, I've updated to version Visionary r14 and then enabled the new option for R/W, restarted and I still have S-OFF and the ClockWorkMod.
I use root explorer to make changes to the /system partition, it allows to mount it r/w so I think I'm going to disable this on boot option for security...
Have you flashed the stock hboot earlier or did some changes/testing prior the update of this program?
EDIT: here's the link of the Visionary app thread with the description, maybe it can answer some questions.
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...m/322658/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/
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I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Yes it was the problem, I'm glad it's working for you! I agree with you regarding the CWM
gtrab said:
I've tested tons of combinations, but yes I did as you say:
Flahsed a fresh untouched ROM from my version's RUU, this turned S-ON and lost root.
Then used Visionary 14 to temp root-> perm root with r/w ticked.
After reboot, I had root and was able to mount r/w on demand, but was unable to install ClockworkMod (CWM) from the ROM Manager app because I was S-ON (obviously because visionary r14 doesn't have engineering hboot).
I think CWM is priceless, so I installed the eng hboot again to go S-OFF.
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
gtrab said:
If you check koush's (ROM Manager) thread, he states CWM requires S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834731
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I don't understand why though - if you can flash to the HBOOT partition why can't you flash to the recovery partition?
You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
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You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
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OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
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You can. You'd need to use the wpthis thing before using clockwork. Think I'd prefer S-OFF though.
Sent from a Pulse. Yes, a Pulse.
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What is wpthis??
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What is wpthis??
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The module that turns off the write protection on the internal NAND storage. See the sticky threads on rooting for more details.
mamoulian666 said:
OK so Visionary will temproot and then insmod wpthis... So theoretically you could then (without rebooting) run Rom Manager and it could flash ClockworkRecovery, which itself has been modified to include wpthis so you wouldn't need to flash HBOOT?
I know some would prefer to have S-OFF in the HBOOT, but if you're not fussed or don't want to take the risk then the above could be an option... if my understanding's right!?
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the wpthis ("write protect this") effect is temporary since a reboot will delete it and restore stock values
theoretically speaking, you could insmod wpthis and then tell ROM Manager to install CWM
buzmay said:
Since your guides are so amazing Do you think you can make a dummy one for how to loose root and S-Off, more specifically where to get the stock RUUs and how to flash them?
Do you get them from shipped-roms.com or where?
I just want to be sure in case of having to return back the device.
Thanks in advance
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I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
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I've been updating the FAQs day after day,
I think all of your requirements are already there (flashing from RUU, getting the RUUs, how to go back from root and S-OFF, etc. It's all in the FAQ.
Where do I get 'em ?? The Desire Z Android Development forum has several RUUs listed, these are the only ones I am aware of.
A specific link to a specific RUU ?? Not a good idea:
I could link them on the tutorial, but newer ones will always pop up and links will get obsolete, people will get confused.
Thats why I btter state "check the forum for currnt / latest available RUUs".
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Could you having s-off and of course perm root, to come back to stock rom could you copy the PC10img to the root of the sdcard and enter into bootloader? will that work?
Thanks a lot in advance
hi!
i found a shop in my area (slo) to unlock my phone. but i'm a bit confused. if i get my phone s-off-ed, as i understand this means full system root, which should men i should be somehow able to flash clockwork mod and then custom roms. this should be done by downgrading to 2.1 and hboot 0.8x.
i found a video tutorial on downgrading here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981765
and my question: shouldn't i be able to flash clockworkmod directly (without downgrading), since i will have my phone fully unlocked? if possible, how?
I think the best is after the s-off, install and older RUU, then use unrevoked 3.14 thats the most easy and i think the safest way
Most efficient way
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I think the best is after the s-off, install and older RUU, then use unrevoked 3.14 thats the most easy and i think the safest way
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May I suggest more efficient way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
Can you please tell me which shop. I'm from Slovenia too... Maybe you just see my private message.
Tnx
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never mind got me a xtc clip and found out the hard way
using the search function has help me more than making noob questions, sorry
dailor said:
May I suggest more efficient way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
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Hi
I have rooted wildfire with s-off (xtc clip) and Hboot - 1.01.0002 . I tried the above method but fastboot wont detect the zip file and says not found. I am unable to install clockworkmod using rom manager, whenever i do, i get the red traingle of death.
What to do now ?
Please help...
u donot need to downgrade with an RUU. and further doing so may make ur phone S-ON again (im not sure about this).
u have a simple process.
u can flash any "recovery image" via fastboot mode.
and that's all, after doing that u can flash any rooted custom rom from that recovery.
getting to S-OFF is an expensive task yaar (as far as now). try to keep it in S-OFF permanently.
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May I suggest more efficient way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
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rishabhd said:
Hi
I have rooted wildfire with s-off (xtc clip) and Hboot - 1.01.0002 . I tried the above method but fastboot wont detect the zip file and says not found. I am unable to install clockworkmod using rom manager, whenever i do, i get the red traingle of death.
What to do now ?
Please help...
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have u done the "PC49IMG.zip" process with the file in the above link. it is the process for flashing clockwork mod "recovery image". once this is successful, then u can install any custom roms from the CWM recovery.
note: donot do the PC49IMG.ZIP process with any outside file (excluding the link above). if u do that, u might loose the S-OFF
Alternatively, u can flash other recoveries also (i dont know any others)
I got it eventually, I downgraded using ruu rom to hboot. 80 rooted it again and now have 2.3.3 over it
Thanks anyways ..
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
bharatgaddameedi said:
have u done the "PC49IMG.zip" process with the file in the above link. it is the process for flashing clockwork mod "recovery image". once this is successful, then u can install any custom roms from the CWM recovery.
note: donot do the PC49IMG.ZIP process with any outside file (excluding the link above). if u do that, u might loose the S-OFF
Alternatively, u can flash other recoveries also (i dont know any others)
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How will you lose s-off by flashing a PC49IMG.zip? XTC Clip wipes the secuflag in radio NVRAM, no way of getting it back via a normal update.
edit: never mind........
edit: never mind...........................
Hello all,
I just ran RUU 2.2 to my wildfire, and used some command prompt actions to flash a new 1.0.0001 hboot to regain S-on. (Used Instructions Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251 )
Then I tried to run revolutianary tool to regain root access, but I only gain S-on and after the tool goes not responding (although i choose yes when it asks me to download clockwordrecovery and install it)..... tried to run unrevoked after that (since i goot s-off but no root) but no luck,it gives the too new firmware error..
So, since I couldn't root, I reused the command prompt to regain S-On... I did all that from the very beginning just to get root access but on stock froyo, coz I didn't like CM...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
There is a lot of confusion in your post.
Alyzembawy said:
Tried to run revolutianary tool to regain root access, but I only gain S-on
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Revolutionary doesnt give you S-ON. It gives S-OFF. It doesn't give you root access either. Superuser binary does, which has to be flashed after you get S-OFF and Clockworkmod
Alyzembawy said:
So, since I couldn't root, I reused the command prompt to regain S-On... I did all that from the very beginning just to get root access but on stock froyo, coz I didn't like CM...
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You never got S-OFF as per your post. How did you S-ON a S-ON phone?
Anyway, from what I get, you have Stock Froyo, and you have S-ON, and you simply want root access? In that case, there are 2 ways
1) Gain S-OFF again using Revolutionary . Then install Custom Recovery (Seperately, if Revolutionary is not working / giving you an error), and simply flash the Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod
Or
2) Gain S-OFF using Revolutionary, then gain S-ON again using the same command prompt tools. But, instead of flashing HBoot 1.01.0001, flash HBoot 0.80.x. This will allow you to root using Unrevoked, as was the case earlier
3xeno said:
There is a lot of confusion in your post.
Revolutionary doesnt give you S-ON. It gives S-OFF. It doesn't give you root access either. Superuser binary does, which has to be flashed after you get S-OFF and Clockworkmod
You never got S-OFF as per your post. How did you S-ON a S-ON phone?
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Yeah sorry i meant that i got s-off after running revolutionary tool
Alyzembawy said:
Yeah sorry i meant that i got s-off after running revolutionary tool
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I checked your Edited post. Well, just follow one of the 2 methods I listed below, either of them will work.
3xeno said:
Anyway, from what I get, you have Stock Froyo, and you have S-ON, and you simply want root access? In that case, there are 2 ways
1) Gain S-OFF again using Revolutionary . Then install Custom Recovery (Seperately, if Revolutionary is not working / giving you an error), and simply flash the Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod
Or
2) Gain S-OFF using Revolutionary, then gain S-ON again using the same command prompt tools. But, instead of flashing HBoot 1.01.0001, flash HBoot 0.80.x. This will allow you to root using Unrevoked, as was the case earlier
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Can you please link me instructions to do these two steps, and which do you think is safer and easier ?!
And thanks btw
Alyzembawy said:
Can you please link me instructions to do these two steps, and which do you think is safer and easier ?!
And thanks btw
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Depends, but the first should be easier, since you have already performed it yourself. The procedure remains exactly the same, just that you do not flash the CM7 ROM File, but simply flash the Superuser Binary file to gain root.
- Run Revolutionary
- Gain S-OFF
- When it asks to install a Custom Recovery, Select Y, and if it installs, well and good.
- If it doesn't, follow this guide to install Clockworkmod - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
- Once Clockworkmod is installed, download Superuser Binary here: http://bit.ly/su2361ef and place it on your SDCard
- Reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery and flash it. (Install Zip from SDCard > Select the zip file you just placed)
3xeno said:
Depends, but the first should be easier, since you have already performed it yourself. The procedure remains exactly the same, just that you do not flash the CM7 ROM File, but simply flash the Superuser Binary file to gain root.
- Run Revolutionary
- Gain S-OFF
- When it asks to install a Custom Recovery, Select Y, and if it installs, well and good.
- If it doesn't, follow this guide to install Clockworkmod - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130044
- Once Clockworkmod is installed, download Superuser Binary here: http://bit.ly/su2361ef and place it on your SDCard
- Reboot into Clockworkmod Recovery and flash it. (Install Zip from SDCard > Select the zip file you just placed)
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Well that's funny, this time revolutionary tool just worked, and it reported "SUCCESS" about flashing CWM... So now am I fully rooted, or I still have to flash the binary super user app ?!
Alyzembawy said:
Well that's funny, this time revolutionary tool just worked, and it reported "SUCCESS" about flashing CWM... So now am I fully rooted, or I still have to flash the binary super user app ?!
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You'll still have to flash Superuser to gain root access. The correct terminology is that it is a ROM which is rooted. A phone is never rooted.
Also, since you are keeping S-OFF, don't forget the Sense Fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
3xeno said:
You'll still have to flash Superuser to gain root access. The correct terminology is that it is a ROM which is rooted. A phone is never rooted.
Also, since you are keeping S-OFF, don't forget the Sense Fix here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
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Ok, so now I will flash superuser to gain root acces, then flash the Sense Fix... Do I have to hard reset after all this ?!
Alyzembawy said:
Ok, so now I will flash superuser to gain root acces, then flash the Sense Fix... Do I have to hard reset after all this ?!
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Not necessary, (Flashing both, Superuser and the sense fix doesn't touch your data) but, remember to take a Nandroid Backup though, in Clockworkmod, just in case.
3xeno said:
Not necessary, (Flashing both, Superuser and the sense fix doesn't touch your data) but, remember to take a Nandroid Backup though, in Clockworkmod, just in case.
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Uhm, When I go to CWM and select Installl ZIP from SD Card, it goes to a black screen with the logo "REVOLUTIONARY" on... and the nothing...
Edit. Ah sorry, I was using the power button to select
Nvm
Hi about 10 months ago I rooted my Wildfire with no problems using Turkeys ultimate guide from these forums.
I have got apps to sd, live wallpapers running, and all is good. However my phone is still S-on and the H Boot version is 0.80.0002.
When I was playing around with the settings in SetCPU it informed me that the binary was out of date and to update it, but when i tried it would not update as the phone is still S-on.
My question is can I S-off using Revolutionary as it is already rooted? Obviously I will back up using clockworkmod, but if I s-off the phone are there any obvious advantages apart from being able to update the binary in SetCPU?
Thanks
Are you talking about an outdated Superuser Binary? If so, you can download the latest binary here:
http://tinyurl.com/63tsg9c
And simply flash it in Clockworkmod Recovery. This will give you the updated binary and SetCPU should work fine again.
If you have to get S-OFF, then, you will have to apply the official Froyo RUU and update your HBoot to 1.01.0001 because Revolutionary doesn't support any other HBoots, including 0.80.x. Advantages include a writeable /system partition (Which enables you copy paste stuff in the /system folder on a running handset, one case in point is precisely what you described. This will allow updating of the binary), and the other advantage is enabling of Fastboot commands, which allows you to flash stuff like radio's, recoveries, nandroid backups etc directly to the phone without using Clockworkmod Recovery.
Tl;dr - You will have to completely format your device, install official Froyo, and only then can you obtain S-OFF
And simply flash it in Clockworkmod Recovery.
When you say simply flash it in Clockworkmod recovery, what do you mean? And when you say apply the official Froyo RUU and update the HBoot how can I do that as I am running Wildpuzzle ROM at the moment and it says there are no updates available, so can you explain in simple terms what steps to take?
Thanks
Flash in Clockworkmod Recovery - Same way as you installed your WildPuzzle ROM ZIP file. Turn off phone, start using Vol Down + Power, then navigate to RECOVERY, Press Power Button. Here, select "Install Zip from SDCard", then browse to "Select Zip from SDCard", and select the Zip file I linked above.
This entire process is called "flashing".
If you are still interested in getting S-OFF:
- Download the EXE WWE Froyo 2.22.405.1 RUU from here:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Buzz
- Connect your Wildfire to your PC, run it. It will automatically proceed and perform the required steps.
- If you get s Customer ID 131, you will need to create a Goldcard using your SDCard. This an be done using GoldcardTool. The required steps and download can be found here:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/308798-pc-application-goldcardtool/
IMO, I would not recommend you to go for S-OFF since it doesn't seem you are too much inclined to stuff like these (It is not a necessity. Besides, once /system is writeable, it is a two edged sword. Messing something up there will likely cause your phone to not boot). Further, it breaks certain functions on Sense ROMs which needs an additional fix found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156713
hey man, you could also try the test version of unrevoked 3.2 and run that to s off your phone. it works on your h-boot ( i know as i have the same)
since i am new the forum wont let me post the link, its to sstop spamming :/ just search for unrevoked test 3.2 ( it has to be test 3.2 because the others wont work on the hboot to my knowlege. :/)
just download the program and run it and it should do it with no hassle.
good luck
heavy_metal_man said:
hey man, you could also try the test version of unrevoked 3.2 and run that to s off your phone. it works on your h-boot ( i know as i have the same)
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That's totally incorrect. Rooting with Unrevoked =/= S-OFF. Besides, on the very first line the OP says he has rooted his phone using Unrevoked.
ah, sorry about that i was looking at unrevoked forever :/ just ignore me ........