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I have an HD2 I just bought, should be still under warranty (aside from running wp7 and random warranty-voiding stuff) and I am noticing an issue of when I totally kill it, it seemingly won't charge (or no charge light comes on at least) until I pull the battery out and put it back in. Also, I have noticed it doesn't power on from that state (light goes from orange to green) until I pull out the battery and put it back in. Is it just because I'm running WP7 and hardspl3 or radio 2.14.50... (or whatever recommended radio is for wp7). It's not a huge deal but it makes me curious. Also I get occasional restarts upon booting wp7 but it always boots into it (maybe 1 or 2 restarts every ten boots, and it seems to happen more after total kill). Just wondering if people are having similar issues.
WP7 is pretty cool, but I am wondering how many prefer 6.5? I'm an avid Android user (never ran 6.5 except on a Blackjack ii briefly, and yes, 6.5) and I was curious what you guys thought of wp6.5 vs wp7.
Lastly, I am wanting a magldr compatible sd version of a Desire HD ROM with sense and everything that isn't overclocked (I know there are some out there that are, ie DL.DesireZ 3.x).
Please advise.
It's not WP7, it is MAGLDR. MAGLDR does not have a software in it which allows the phone to charge when off.
My advice to you, never, ever, let your phone lose charge. A dead battery is a dead phone in our case, unless you have spare batteries.
I figured something like that. It's not going to botch the magldr flash though if it dies, is it? I would assume magldr is read-only or close to or something like that to where it can't corrupt itself.
I don't see why a dead battery can kill MAGLDR, it'll just leave your hd2 unable to turn on. However MAGLDR, I assume, isn't incorruptible. Well if you're afraid of corruption from leftover flashing, for whenever you want to flash WP7, Android or winmo, perform a task 29 first, flash MAGLDR, and then the OS. Well if it winmo, then a task 29, then simply flashing winmo and done.
Oh and the reason WP7 kept on rebooting on yours was because your sd card was incompatible. My advice is to reformat the sd card with panasonic formatter, full format btw, and then reinstall WP7. If that doesn't work, you just have to get a new card.
A MAGLDR SD desire hd version I know not of. Since NAND came out, SD development has died off so there are only a few developers that still strive in that forum.
Well it restarts hardly ever so I probably am not going to worry about it. It's the stock HD2 sd that came with the phone. The reason I want an sd build is because I want to dual boot.
I don't understand how I seem to be the only one who can charge in magldr.
I've drained my battery many times to the point where it doesn't turn on to calibrate using Android. Pulled battery, reinserted and connected wall charger. Orange light comes on which means it's picking up charge, leave it for a few minutes so it gets some residual charge in it, pull battery and charger, reinsert, boot up, then during boot process plug the charger back in and away you are, charging from scratch.
I too didnt have any problems charging dead batteries via MAGLDR.
Those who are can update to version 1.13 as its now got a workaround for it apparently.
I wasn't aware v13 was even out. Well it's not a big deal. Glad everyone is having this issue . This bug still beats having to wait 20 minutes for my stock Sammy Vibrant to boot up. Damn ridiculous.
Is your battery life worse on WP7 or WP6.5? I get roughly 8-10 hours. I'm surprised it burns that much electricity seeing as how all it is is some colored squares and no data connection or multitasking.
EDIT: Updated to MAGLDR ver. 1.13 without a hitch. Will see how this goes. For the record I was using 1.12.
I guess this is the fix:
"*Fixed Power-Off-Cable-Plug-Stop. Phone now detects this situation and reboots. Battery controller inside LEO needs runtime control during charge, it implemented in OS."
I could do it on the first version of magldr, as long as the Orange light comes on you're good to go, just leave to get some charge then pull everything reinsert turn on, simple...
I found the trick--MAGLDR V1.13
Plug the phone into a wall charger. Hold the call end button as soon as the phone comes on booting into MAGLDR. Let the phone stay at the MAGLDR menu screen for about 15 to 20 minutes. Restart the phone and leave it on the charger. It will have enough power to make it to the android home screen.
sorry for the delayed reply bro but i justr had this problem lately and know abt the fix for it... just go into magldr by pressing the power key for sumtime on bootup... after that plug in the wall adapter for about 20 - 30 minutes... havng done that remove the battery and insert it agiain w/o the charger... start the phone and let it go the main wp7 screen where it will stay for only about 20 seconds... quickly run to the settings menu and switch on airplane mode and put the brightness to the lowest setting... and quickly lock the screen... the phn will start charging fine... now leave it for an hour to charge and then adjust the brightness as u like and turn on airplane mode... it will work fine... take precautions for next time... there is a kind of an odd fix that was in forums...(sorry dont have the link)... when the wp7 is working go to the default camera and go to the video camera mode and switch back to the still camera and press the windows buttn to go to the main screen... the battery drainage is very less in this case and the stanby increases... cheers!
Ok, this is going to sound really weird, it makes no sense to me. I've got dual boot WP7 and gingerbread, with magldr 1.13 on my device. It worked perfectly until I went out last night, and the battery ran completely flat. I tried to charge it when I got home, and it wouldn't boot properly. I've configured it to boot WP7 by default, but every time it turns on it goes to magldr. I then select an OS and it begins loading, but before it gets past the first screen on either OS it restarts back into magldr. After a lot of drunken trial and error, I realised that it boots fine when not plugged in, but restarts and fails to load the OS if I plug it in. Also, if I plug it in whilst off, it automatically turns on and loads into magldr. Also, it won't charge when in magldr (this may be normal) and it isn't content being off and plugged in.
Any ideas what the hell is going on? Cheers
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Ok, this is going to sound really weird, it makes no sense to me. I've got dual boot WP7 and gingerbread, with magldr 1.13 on my device. It worked perfectly until I went out last night, and the battery ran completely flat. I tried to charge it when I got home, and it wouldn't boot properly. I've configured it to boot WP7 by default, but every time it turns on it goes to magldr. I then select an OS and it begins loading, but before it gets past the first screen on either OS it restarts back into magldr. After a lot of drunken trial and error, I realised that it boots fine when not plugged in, but restarts and fails to load the OS if I plug it in. Also, if I plug it in whilst off, it automatically turns on and loads into magldr. Also, it won't charge when in magldr (this may be normal) and it isn't content being off and plugged in.
Any ideas what the hell is going on? Cheers
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Leave it on magldr menu while plugged in and let your battery charge, dont try and go into any OS.
I don't know if it is the same kind of pb linked to the SD-card, but there is mine:
I have just flashed the Mango with marketplace ROM;worked perfectly! (a bit slow sometime, but nothing really bad). I used it a lot today.
I think I ran out of battery tonight, and now when I plug the phone on power, the phone boots automatically (so stops charging...) and loads to DFT screen few seconds and shuts down (because of the battery?) then charge 1 sec, then turn on, .... etc.
Of course it restarts before the battery charges again after the system loading.
(Question here, does the battery keeps charging when the phone is booting? as the orange charging led is off.)
I might have found a way to stop drain the battery trying to start and stop at the magldr menu... but still don't know if it charges because the led is off.
Any recommendation/advice for me? (To avoid the auto-boot on charging)
(I can't (don't want to) re-flash, because the battery is almost dead!)
Thx
EDIT: I have used the original SD-card of 2GB, I also have a 8GB/Kingston/class4 that I didn't want to format, but if I need I can do it.
It seems that the phone is charging when it is on the magldr menu because the system loading goes much further (but the points animation is very slow when it was very smoothy before, like 1 transition per second)
Still loading after 2min
1. SanDisk 2GB Class2 (Bundled with EU HD2) - could install WP7, card was recognized, after one day of using and installing several apps the system starts to crash, random reboots each 20 minutes or so.
2. Kingston 8GB Class4 (Bought 1 month ago) - WP7 installs but can't get over startup configuration, it stucks, rebootings and Hard Resets won't help (tried a bunch of different ROMs, nothing helps)
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seems dead for both cards, but I will try anyway with the second one if I can't boot the system anymore!
After 30 min charging on the magldr menu the phone starts again! Everything seems to be ok, but I am still wondering WHY it is not possible to charge the phone without it to start and try to load windows... Or maybe I missed something...?
jean.collas said:
After 30 min charging on the magldr menu the phone starts again! Everything seems to be ok, but I am still wondering WHY it is not possible to charge the phone without it to start and try to load windows... Or maybe I missed something...?
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I had the exact same problem let phone die... couldnt recharge i just used task29 wiped magldr let phone charge while was off :-\
The reason it wont charge during boot is reason why ur keyboard/mouse dont work and flash on and off during actual booting of windows... dont know what process that is .. but i can only imagine its something from going bios (using those drivers) then going to the operating system (utilizing those drivers) and inbetween doesnt work
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I don't know if it is the same kind of pb linked to the SD-card, but there is mine:
I have just flashed the Mango with marketplace ROM;worked perfectly! (a bit slow sometime, but nothing really bad). I used it a lot today.
I think I ran out of battery tonight, and now when I plug the phone on power, the phone boots automatically (so stops charging...) and loads to DFT screen few seconds and shuts down (because of the battery?) then charge 1 sec, then turn on, .... etc.
Of course it restarts before the battery charges again after the system loading.
(Question here, does the battery keeps charging when the phone is booting? as the orange charging led is off.)
I might have found a way to stop drain the battery trying to start and stop at the magldr menu... but still don't know if it charges because the led is off.
Any recommendation/advice for me? (To avoid the auto-boot on charging)
(I can't (don't want to) re-flash, because the battery is almost dead!)
Thx
EDIT: I have used the original SD-card of 2GB, I also have a 8GB/Kingston/class4 that I didn't want to format, but if I need I can do it.
It seems that the phone is charging when it is on the magldr menu because the system loading goes much further (but the points animation is very slow when it was very smoothy before, like 1 transition per second)
Still loading after 2min
seems dead for both cards, but I will try anyway with the second one if I can't boot the system anymore!
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I got the same issue. I put it to charge and refrained from entering my pin when it asked to, until the phone got a full charge. Looks all fine now...
Out of topic, may I ask how much storage your phone shows in settings with your Sandisk 2gb card? I also got the same card, and it got only 35 MB total storage and 0MB left. That's right after installation...
Prerna said:
Out of topic, may I ask how much storage your phone shows in settings with your Sandisk 2gb card? I also got the same card, and it got only 35 MB total storage and 0MB left. That's right after installation...
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Sorry, but I don't know. After booting, it rebooted few times then couldn't find the SD-card anymore, so I formated the SD, took the other and reflash.
Then new one (kingston 8GB class4) is showing 7.22 total / 6.80 available. It has been working great today, and still
The best way to get around this problem if you run your battery dead is:
-Hold both the volume up and down keys while the phone is booting
-It will ask if you want to delete your data, just leave it as is for 10-15 minutes
-Pull the battery and restart your phone
The battery doesn't charge while booting up, so that's why it gets stuck in a boot loop like that.
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The best way to get around this problem if you run your battery dead is:
-Hold both the volume up and down keys while the phone is booting
-It will ask if you want to delete your data, just leave it as is for 10-15 minutes
-Pull the battery and restart your phone
The battery doesn't charge while booting up, so that's why it gets stuck in a boot loop like that.
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Hum, just pressing the red button enters the magldr menu, maybe safer than the erase data menu There you can also charge the phone without draining too much.
Yes there is this kind of a problem this is how i solved that!
First of all i rebooted, the device was almost %0 percent of battery.
I just plug it to electricity and close its lcd and wait. I dont know why.. Charging device takes very long time. But it still works. Battery drainage is because of huge LCD, i think the battery drainage caused by the lcd canot be compansated by the charging state, so it keeps rebooting everytime.
When you get you first opportunity, please try turning off the lcd.
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Yes there is this kind of a problem this is how i solved that!
First of all i rebooted, the device was almost %0 percent of battery.
I just plug it to electricity and close its lcd and wait. I dont know why.. Charging device takes very long time. But it still works. Battery drainage is because of huge LCD, i think the battery drainage caused by the lcd canot be compansated by the charging state, so it keeps rebooting everytime.
When you get you first opportunity, please try turning off the lcd.
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unless your charging from a laptop which may only give you 200mA the power from the USB will be more than enough to keep it alive with the screen on. the reason it keeps rebooting is because your sucking the last remaining mA out of the battery, like a sponge, it takes several squeezes to get all the water out, DO NOT keep doing this, or you will need to invest in an external charger or attach some wires directly to the terminals of the battery.....or use a WM HD2!
as others have mentioned, put it in to bootloader(best choice) hold VOL DOWN on restart and theres no chance of deleting data here! or put it in to magldr.
dont leave for any longer than 30min though, get it charging in windows as soon as its got enough to boot, its unclear if the battery full cut off works in the bootloader/magldr
I've been using the Magldr to charge my battery on the occasions when the battery gets too low. Today I managed to wait to long I guess. Even in magldr my phone sits for a minute then reboots itself. I also tried the hard reset screen. I don't have an external charger. Any ideas for me?
I have the same problem when I use my HTC charger. But when I use my Samsung charger (came with my Galaxy Ace) HD2 boots normally. Also I noticed that when I use the phone on HTC charger battery keeps droping. I think it uses more power then the HTC charger charges. With my Samsung charger i dont have this problem.
I tried charging in MAGDLR menu, but that only drained the battery more. (v1.13) I had to buy a universal charger ($4) to get my phone working again.
Any idea why this hasn't been fixed in MAGDLR yet? Or might there be an alternative?
For now, I think I will program Tasker to shutdown the phone at 10% battery...
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rustybob said:
The best way to get around this problem if you run your battery dead is:
-Hold both the volume up and down keys while the phone is booting
-It will ask if you want to delete your data, just leave it as is for 10-15 minutes
-Pull the battery and restart your phone
The battery doesn't charge while booting up, so that's why it gets stuck in a boot loop like that.
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worked for me! thanks
Hello
Once ive completely drained the battery, and i got to plug my hd2 WP7 in from a wall plug, it automatically switches on.
Then, it goes through MAGLDR and the boots WP7 onto the welcome screen, then restarts back to MAGLDR again!
So what i have to do, is leave it on the magldr screen for a few minuites and wait for it to charge up a little before starting WP7.
Anyone else have this problem?
I have checked BatteryTool whilst plugged in and on 30 second test, i get between 392 and 465.
Is this typical? this is whilst in the wall and the screen on.
Cheers!
p.s just looked at the charger, and its supposed to be outputting 5v DC and 1200mA
Same behavior here.
Seems that after x restarts also is capable of loading wp7 tough.
I run into the same problem. If you let it hang in MAGLDR, even on the first boot, to let it charge up some, then it can boot on the first round. For some reason it doesn't boot if you plug it in when the phone is off; does it not charge in this situation? I am yet to actually bust out a multimeter
The new magldr being developed supposedly fixes that. We all get that issue.
HD2 does it even without modifications. It seems it happens when it doesn't have enough charge to boot all the way into the OS so it reboots forever. As homeworld1031tx says, leave it on magldr screen for a few minutes which should let it get enough juice to boot properly.
aaah, glad to know im not the only one having this issue!
It becomes even more of a problem when your using a car charger.
I guess we will just have to waitt for the next MAGLDR
another one to watch out for, and that was what i thought you was going to say from your title
is that if you charge the phone whilst the red light blinks, it will not charge!
From what ive noticed this can happen from one of two ways, firstly is that you get the phone to hot, it seems to have some kind of thermal cut out, the second way is to run the battery right down low, it seems to get confused sometimes and wont let you charge even within windows. Infact the battery monitor program can sometimes show you a negative value for the charge left in the battery
In fact it almost discharges the device, The battery is a real pain in the arse, my advice to you is get an external charger cuz the other thing with using MAGLDR and The bootloader to charge is that it messes up your clock, an if you get a bunch of txts whilst its messed up it can be a pain in the arse to find them!
This isnt likely to get completely fixed guys (the Magldr issue fix is slightly different and wont fix everything), to try an make the best of a poor situation, i find a nice cradle with an Aux charge slot on it and a spare battery works wonders.
Ok, so last week my iPhone got lost, and I had to get a new sim card (on AT&T). I asked all my friends if they had any sim card phones I can borrow, and one of them let me use her HTC HD2 (T-Mobile branded).
I installed everything correctly, Radio, MAGLDR, HardSPL and Android perfectly. The phone has been working great (sans 3G) for the past week.
I noticed the battery died VERY quickly, and seeing as the phone was old, ordered a new one.
I got it in the mail today, and upon plugging it in (because of MAGLDR 1.13), it automatically turns on and tries to boot android from NAND.
Here is the problem: It doesnt have enough battery to fully boot up, so about 5 seconds after showing the Dark Force Team screen, it reboots. And loops.
I can find no way of charging the battery. Wall chargers and USB cords do the same, it automatically turns on, and will NOT charge.
I'm not sure why MAGLDR automatically turns on the phone instead of just keeping it off, or am I missing a setting somewhere?
Pull the battery press and hold the power button until it boots into magldr and leave it like that for 10 or 15 minutes it will charge but not indicate its charging then switch on normaly
It continually surprises me that the advice to "boot into magldr and leave it for 10/15 minutes" keeps being offered.
the person who wrote magldr clearly states that the phone WILL NOT CHARGE under magldr,,, android must be running. The code to control charging doesn't exist in magldr, it is not possible to charge using only magldr. That's why magldr starts the phone when it detects the USB connection,,,, so that android can boot to allow charging to start.
OP, get a spare USB cable, mini / micro, cut end off, bare red and black, take out battery plug usb into wall charger and hold red to + and black to - for a minute or two. Should now be enough charge to boot into android and start charging.
When a battery is empty, but only just empty, not fully discharged, letting it rest for ten mins often allows the residual charge to build up a little, so a phone that wouldn't start suddenly has enough to just about start. I believe this is why people think leaving it in magldr charges it. It doesn't.
I left it for an hour and still the bootloop.
I even tried it with the battery I know works. After 25 minutes the battery had 3% less charge then before I left it plugged in at the MAGLDR main menu.
if it bootloops with a good battery, there's a good chance it is a bent battery pin. Either that, or sometimes when a battery dies whilst the OS is running, it screws up and then wont boot until you do a hard reset or fresh flash. (However normally it would hang rather than bootloop, but anything is possible)
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It continually surprises me that the advice to "boot into magldr and leave it for 10/15 minutes" keeps being offered.
the person who wrote magldr clearly states that the phone WILL NOT CHARGE under magldr,,, android must be running. The code to control charging doesn't exist in magldr, it is not possible to charge using only magldr. That's why magldr starts the phone when it detects the USB connection,,,, so that android can boot to allow charging to start.
OP, get a spare USB cable, mini / micro, cut end off, bare red and black, take out battery plug usb into wall charger and hold red to + and black to - for a minute or two. Should now be enough charge to boot into android and start charging.
When a battery is empty, but only just empty, not fully discharged, letting it rest for ten mins often allows the residual charge to build up a little, so a phone that wouldn't start suddenly has enough to just about start. I believe this is why people think leaving it in magldr charges it. It doesn't.
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Are you sure about this? Because if you turn off phone at 1% charge, turn on MAGLDR 1.13 -> USB FLASHER and leave it over night, battery is at 100% when turn on and lasts for a day.
Just going on what cotulla says, and since he wrote magldr he knows that the code to control the charge circuits doesn't exist in magldr, plus the OP says he left it in magldr and the % went down.
However you sound like you've tested this yourself, so I shan't argue with you, since I haven't.
Perhaps USB flasher mode exposes the battery terminals to raw USB power, bypassing the charge control circuits, giving the same effect as holding bare wires to the battery?
Yeah I'll have to figure something out. And not to knock the writer of MAGLDR, because I could certainly not create something like it, but I find it odd and almost disturbing that the creator is fully aware that a dead battery basically bricks your phone?
I think "bricks your phone" is a bit harsh,, its not like its a surprise, most roms spend the last 15/20% warning you of low battery.
I've used the bare wire method three or four times now when my battery ran out, and although I did say it sometimes won't boot after running out, as often as not it does boot ok. I'd go into cwm and clear cache,, if that doesn't help I'd try a cwm backup,hard reset (via cwm, not the built in bootloader hard reset) see if it starts fresh, and if it does restore SD ext,, if THAT works I'd then restore data.
Just a quick related question - can you charge your phone while in bootloader? I couldn't find an answer to that but I need to know...
Allegedly not. At least that's always been the answer that has been given for the past two years. I for one believe that it doesn't charge in bootloader.
Heres the update : I had a bad charger and the usb cable was messed up as well hence the phone dies on me as battery got over. When i was trying to charge it, was getting a bootloop because of MAGldr so what i did was left the phone in the main Mag menu for 5 mins and rebooted and viola it booted in android and is charging now hope this helps i guess somehow MAG does charge your phone cheers