So I used the qdltool to get froyo then did the update... What would be the reason to go to dj steves rom
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So I used the qdltool to get froyo then did the update... What would be the reason to go to dj steves rom
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Speed and overall better rom
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Speed and overall better rom and it's pre-rooted.
You need to read a whole lot of threads and decide whether you need the features of the custom rom. I personally like the stock 2.2 (baseband 318) with the perfmod applied.
Whats the perfmod?
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I personally like the custom rom updated by Steve and it just keeps getting better and better. Att users are still waiting for there froyo. We might have honeycomb by the time froyo hits Att.
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Imma at&t
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Whats the perfmod?
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Its a performance based kernel that give you some of the improvements of the custom rom. Personally I am running 1.7.0 of the streakdroid rom and love it. Its how froyo should run on the streak. Fast and smooth.
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Its a performance based kernel that give you some of the improvements of the custom rom. Personally I am running 1.7.0 of the streakdroid rom and love it. Its how froyo should run on the streak. Fast and smooth.
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Ok now that I used the qdl tool and got the official froyo on my phone was the easiest way to get Djibouti staves Rom on my phone.
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Ok now that I used the qdl tool and got the official froyo on my phone was the easiest way to get Djibouti staves Rom on my phone.
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Install streakmod recovery and then install streakdroid 1.7.0. be sure to read the instructions for the install.txt file for streakdroid. If you have any questions post them in that thread or jump on irc in the #dellstreak channel on freenode.
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How safe is it having one chef for this rom? I've had bad experiences with HTC roms and chefs from the UK... since some of them are from Poland, Nigeria, and China using UK ip addresses/proxies. I'm just being cautious and it's a question that comes up from time to time on forums so don't judge me. We can look to some of our talented youths at MIT and Columbia that find exploits in their free time for class credit or a mention in a mag - lord knows what could be hidden in a custom rom - I don't want my phone to be part of the first mobile botnet... you know it's coming as soon as those dual-core processor handsets are deployed.
I had used StreakDroid 1.5 1.6 1.7 for a week.
The most different I found is the dungeon defender is laggy than stock 2.2
Angry bird in stock rom use lower battery .
I think streakdroid not fully use 100% hardware gpu.
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I had used StreakDroid 1.5 1.6 1.7 for a week.
The most different I found is the dungeon defender is laggy than stock 2.2
Angry bird in stock rom use lower battery .
I think streakdroid not fully use 100% hardware gpu.
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.always make me laugh when people make accusations/make sweeping general comments without putting any proof whatsoever on the table.
Are you sure that angry birds didnt use more battery because of apps you installed? what else did you have running in the background? facebook? twitter? email?
angry bird is hard to prove, but you can very noticeable when start dungeon defender. The start logo & title is laggy frame by frame . But stock has no lag at all. I test by fresh 1.7 vs fresh stock 319.
Please test by yourself .
Steve's ROMs are great for what they are, but I don't notice any real world performance gain over the stock Froyo ROMs. Yes, Steve's Froyo was a MASSIVE improvement over 1.6 and 2.1, but people on this forum seem to keep the mentality that it is still a huge improvement over stock 2.2. Yes quadrant scores are higher but I'm talking about a noticeable improvement in overall performance.
The number one thing that keeps me coming back to official Dell ROMs is the in-call volume. In all of Steve's ROMs no the volume is either quiet or loud, as I increase the volume there is no change until I get to about 33% and then is seems like the increase kicks in and the volume kind of doubles. There is no point where it is comfortable for me to make a phone call. With the stock Dell 2.2 ROM in-call volume works perfectly.
I know it's a small thing, but I use the Streak as my primary phone and if I can't comfortably use it as a phone then that's a deal breaker for me.
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Steve's ROMs are great for what they are, but I don't notice any real world performance gain over the stock Froyo ROMs. Yes, Steve's Froyo was a MASSIVE improvement over 1.6 and 2.1, but people on this forum seem to keep the mentality that it is still a huge improvement over stock 2.2. Yes quadrant scores are higher but I'm talking about a noticeable improvement in overall performance.
The number one thing that keeps me coming back to official Dell ROMs is the in-call volume. In all of Steve's ROMs no the volume is either quiet or loud, as I increase the volume there is no change until I get to about 33% and then is seems like the increase kicks in and the volume kind of doubles. There is no point where it is comfortable for me to make a phone call. With the stock Dell 2.2 ROM in-call volume works perfectly.
I know it's a small thing, but I use the Streak as my primary phone and if I can't comfortably use it as a phone then that's a deal breaker for me.
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The overall smoothness of the OS is much better on streakdroid for me. Scrolling through apps and screens. Going between apps is quick on streakdroid. To me its a hugely noticeable increase. Plus he ability to overclock/underclock the cpu helps with speed and power. On stock froyo it just felt a little clunky and laggy.
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The overall smoothness of the OS is much better on streakdroid for me. Scrolling through apps and screens. Going between apps is quick on streakdroid. To me its a hugely noticeable increase. Plus he ability to overclock/underclock the cpu helps with speed and power. On stock froyo it just felt a little clunky and laggy.
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+1 usung streakdroid 1.7 I find it to be really slick. moving between screens(no matter which home replacement app i use), really responsive. I like the quick reboot time as well, much less frustrating than stock.
As for games being laggy, i havent noticed any difference in angry birds, not one bit. As for dungeon defender, I dont play it, so couldnt tell. I wont pretend to know everything about something i havent installed and used.
As for quadrant scores? well I dont really pay them much attention. they arent the be all and end-all, but neither should they be summarily discounted.
I have used build 322, 318 with and without the performance tweaks. Streakdroid feels better everytime.
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The overall smoothness of the OS is much better on streakdroid for me. Scrolling through apps and screens. Going between apps is quick on streakdroid. To me its a hugely noticeable increase. Plus he ability to overclock/underclock the cpu helps with speed and power. On stock froyo it just felt a little clunky and laggy.
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How exactly does the overclocked kernel help with power??? I'm not one bit interested in overclocking abut I always have SetCPU underclocking profiles running e.g. screen off 245 powersave. Stock Froyo allows underclocking just as easily as Steve's ROM.
I'm using 322 and I use a LOT of widgets and ADW Launcher EX runs butter smooth for me with no stuttering at all. Stage UI stutters a little although it also does exactly the same thing in Steve's ROM, proving that the fault lies in Dell's launcher.
Everything works with the stock ROM and there's no constant force closes. Steve has done an excellent job over time to iron out the bugs but I just don't think he's there yet.
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How exactly does the overclocked kernel help with power??? I'm not one bit interested in overclocking abut I always have SetCPU underclocking profiles running e.g. screen off 245 powersave. Stock Froyo allows underclocking just as easily as Steve's ROM.
I'm using 322 and I use a LOT of widgets and ADW Launcher EX runs butter smooth for me with no stuttering at all. Stage UI stutters a little although it also does exactly the same thing in Steve's ROM, proving that the fault lies in Dell's launcher.
Everything works with the stock ROM and there's no constant force closes. Steve has done an excellent job over time to iron out the bugs but I just don't think he's there yet.
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If you are having constant force-closes with Steves Roms, then why aren't I? Quite often the reason people have problems with steves Roms is because they dont read and follow the instructions. Just as PC's; quite often the problem is between chair and computer.
There are quite a few of us that have Steves Rom running nice and slick, with NO problems whatsoever. My streak is my only phone, I use it for work. I don't do anything special when a new Rom comes out. I make a nandroid backup, clear Dalvik, and flash the new Rom. Sometimes I also do a factory reset. I'm not a tech boffin either. I just follow the instrctions 100%. If it was 'Constantly force-closing', how would I take important calls? My business would collapse if I had a faulty phone/software.
I am glad you are so so happy with stock. perhaps that is best for you, I just prefer giving my streak the ability to fly.
pleae, give examples of the 'constantly force-closing' episodes.
Read the release thread and see for yourself that it is not just me having issues with Steve's ROMs. If there were "NO problems whatsoever" with the ROM then why is it updated so frequently? There's still issues with compatibility with various games and changing the LCD density still seems to cause even more FCs. That last point is particularly relevant to me as I run my Streak with an LCD density of 200.
Again, Steve has done some excellent work but it's just not there yet for me. I'm actually one of Steve's Beta testers (and one of his biggest fans) and thus one of the first in line to help him out by reporting various bugs.
Please stop getting defensive by making ill-informed claims that this ROM is perfect and say something that might be helpful to others.
Bottom line, if you install Steve's ROM at this time you are likely to run into some issues.
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Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?
Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.
It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.
I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion
Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.
Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
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Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.
I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
huh? i've only had my phone since tuesday, i haven't rooted it as of yet... but i wanted to see what that froyo is all about.
Don't do it. It's fun to play with, but like the OP said, if you want something that works reliably and well, stay stock.
Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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I have nothing against people who experiment with different baked ROMs on their phones--after all, where would we be without 'em?--but the performance of stock 2.1 on my Epic was already solid enough that I only really felt I needed to root for a few specific apps. I think any flashing I was going to do was always going to wait until official 2.2 was out and more development is done. I am jonesing for the new features and hopefully speed but am patient.
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Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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Agree bonsai is fantastic, no bugs what so ever and very clean and fast. Way better then 2.1 stock battery life ia about the same.
i wont go back to d118, i will miss hulu and, humans vs, aliens and andy 83 those apps only work on 2.2 and my phone has been running fantastic and way better then d118.
GPS works better!
Wifi Works perfect!
Orientation switch is fast!!
And what ever other bugs people are having im having 0
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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I want to go back to 2.1, but the ONLY thing that stops me is that I NEED GPS.
GPS on 2.1 is poop. I would have a hard time finding my peepee if it weren't for GPS.
I just did the exact same thing!
Running Nebula, was getting weird issues, so I went back to Syndicate with Xtreme kernel v1.2.
Ahh, everything is so snappy. I'll stick with this for a while.
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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It sounds like most of the people who are noticing problems are using nebula. You guys should give bonsai a try.
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I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
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Lolol! I have been saying exactly this for as long as I remember. Froyo is freaking jerky. The animation transitions are not smooth.
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Flashing to Midnight ROM 3.2 is the best thing I ever did.
I love my Epic 4G…I loved it with Eclair, and I am now using midNIGHT 3.2 BYOR and I love it. It’s benchmark scores are twice as fast as Eclair, and you can tell how fast and snappy the phone is. Here is a list of the things I like best that Froyo was needed for.
1. Chrome to Phone – Huge time saver and way more useful than I thought it was going to be, and I thought it would be useful, lol
2. Flash 10.1
3. The apps that needed Froyo for enhancement… Gmail, Youtube, Winamp (there is a station I like on Shoutcast and Winamp required Froyo for Shoutcast)
4. Google Docs – being able to edit Google Docs on the go. The reason I wanted a phone with a keyboard was for doing long emails and editing documents and spreadsheets. The on-screen keyboard is OK, but takes up a lot if real estate.
5. Moving apps to the SD Card – I am an app junkie and I need the space, lol
There are more things, but those are the most important to me. It is was like I got a new phone for a second time. Some of the other things I think that help make the phone better that are not Froyo “items” are the Gingerbread Keyboard (really, really good, better than iOS in my opinion), ASOP Lock Screen, and the EXT4 file system.
I still liked the phone when it had Eclair, and I wouldn’t go back and buy a different phone (and I like it on Froyo even better), it is nice hardware, awesome 5-row keyboard, and it’s AMOLED screen rocks and everyone who see’s it immediately compares it to their own back lit LCD screens, and develops a serious case of envy, lol. I am old enough to know that companies will be companies and will always make and break promises(Apple customers have to put up with a company that said their alarm was fixed in November to have it happen again in January and tells them they are holding their phone wrong). It would be nice if they always kept their promises, but they can’t. If companies were 100% honest, no one would buy their products just like if politicians were 100% honest, no one would vote for them. It would be nice to think we still would, but if we would….wouldn’t there already be 100% honest companies and politicians, lol
Zeinzu said:
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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Agreed.
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If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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+1 bonsai runs way better then 2.1 and bettery life us slightly better...
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Been running TrulyEpic 1.5 and quite pleased with the performance, features, battery-life, etc. I really really like that it now boots in < 30 seconds. (I swap batteries instead of charging, so quick boot times are especially nice).
2.1 Eclair simply unusable because of the Calendar and Bluetooth Voice Search bugs.
But beyond that you're just wrong on performance in Eclair vs Froyo.
Just curious. I was thinking of going back. My phone used to fly on 2.1. They only thing I did not like was lack of flash player capability.
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Until we got the open source kernel with BLN, I was strongly thinking about downgraded (and rather regretted upgrading so soon), due to the loss of BLN. Now, my phone is at least as fast, has all the same features (lacked GPS then, and still do now ), but also all the new Froyo features like push notifications (push = infinitely better for battery!).
I went back to stock 2.1 (EA28) after using 2.2 with superclean 2.9.2. So far, I'm impressed with 2.1, check out the improvements:
1) Browser scrolling is much smoother!
2) Battery life is great without doing bunch of hacks each boot!
3) POP email client actually works correctly and doesn't snap to top of list constantly!
4) SMS looks much better!
5) GPS locks faster than any 2.2 ROM!
Negatives of 2.1:
1) slightly more UI lag sometimes... but not bad
2) Google maps doesnt fully 3D rotate
Overall, 2.1 is better. I'm waiting for official 2.2, hopefully it will address the bugs in the leak. Perhaps it will never come, and then we'll all never buy Samsung again.
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I made a post about this yesterday. Every time I mention 2.1 performs better overall than Froyo i get attacked my developers. Bottom line is that Battery/Performance just aren't as good for me on 2.2 as they were on 2.1. Also apparently memory management is supposed to be better but tasker constantly reports low memory and when I clear the RAM it hardly goes down until reboot.
Im back on 2.1. I got sick of constantly battling wakelocks. I will flash Nameless when v4 drops though.
If i go back, I will Root, CWR, and debloat, debing myself. I will also look into an AOSP voodoo kernel for voodoo lagfix and sound. I am considering trying this out. If I do I will let y'all know if the kernel and voodoo like 2.1, i know the rest of the stuff works as i have done it before, and now that we have a fixed CWR, even better, plus i really like the feeds and updates widget.
Went back to 2.1 myself as well
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I've gone back and forth 5 times already, all just to check and verify power consumption.
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If i go back, I will Root, CWR, and debloat, debing myself. I will also look into an AOSP voodoo kernel for voodoo lagfix and sound. I am considering trying this out. If I do I will let y'all know if the kernel and voodoo like 2.1, i know the rest of the stuff works as i have done it before, and now that we have a fixed CWR, even better, plus i really like the feeds and updates widget.
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Aosp kernel on 2.1 tw roms huh? Good luck with that one
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I flashed back to dl01 with root and sirgatez's blazed kernel. So far so fast!
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Honestly, after jumping onto the Froyo boat so late in the game from using DJ05 forever, and with kernels popping up, Froyo is as fast if not faster than 2.1 has ever been. Battery life is the same, and the extra 2.2 features are awesome.
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Battery life almost doubled when I switched to 2.2 and it's running quite a bit faster. Best of all is the working gps and flash! Never going back.
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Being the noob I am,, so far I've only personally experienced the 2.1 stock verizon bloat load and now SC 2.9 with voodoo. All I can say is WOW,, there is no comparison between the performance of those two,, the SC absolutely blows away the old stock 2.1. So eh no, I dont see ever going back to 2.1.
Now that being said, I've never tried a 'debloated' 2.1 version of a load of any kind, maybe running voodoo filesystem structure,, so maybe that would be even faster,, idk.. But at this point I am so happy with it that I really I dont want to mess with it
I've been back and forth and ultimately I would have to say that a ComaVolted SC 2.9.2 is a lot better than the eclair version of the phone. I get killer battery life and my phone actually works the way it was meant to. I don't think I will be going back to 2.1.
My battery life has increased by a great fold ever since I switched to 2.2. Everything else has far surpassed 2.1 from my experince.
The only reason I would ever go back to 2.1 was if I had to return my phone.
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I have reverted back to D101 so many times I lost count. In my opinion there are many things both benifitial and negative for both 2.2 and 2.1. Personally I go for stability, but I have finally got a stable 2.2. And I actually like TW.
D101 is still a good build in my opinion. I would still be perfectly happy running it, but theming and kernels are much more fun.
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I have reverted back to D101 so many times I lost count. In my opinion there are many things both benifitial and negative for both 2.2 and 2.1. Personally I go for stability, but I have finally got a stable 2.2. And I actually like TW.
D101 is still a good build in my opinion. I would still be perfectly happy running it, but theming and kernels are much more fun.
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Point me to a stable stock 2.2 build?
Debinged and debloated?
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Point me to a stable stock 2.2 build?
Debinged and debloated?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/ver...tom-roms-w-root-clockwork-updated-3-25-a.html
When I first started all the customization, I was very hesitant. I ran just the Stock EB01 debing/debloat for a while and had zero issues, with the exception that the vibration length changed from 2.1 to 2.2.
Just use Odin 1.3 and follow the instructions if you haven't done it before.
Edit: I am running the Superclean 2.9.2 myself with all the TW aspects added back in, even the live wallpapers. I like the stock look and feel, but I also like many of the Superclean features.
Personally I would hold off flashing anything new until NAMELESS drops. It should be within the next few days and may finally give us the 100% froyo experience we have been waiting for along with edify scripting and the new cwm.
Until then im going to stick with my personally debloated, debinged, detouchwiz-ed , EA28.
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Personally I would hold off flashing anything new until NAMELESS drops. It should be within the next few days and may finally give us the 100% froyo experience we have been waiting for along with edify scripting and the new cwm.
Until then im going to stick with my personally debloated, debinged, detouchwiz-ed , EA28.
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Well, glad thats just you, personally.
By the way,
EC10 is about 70% binary identical to EB01.
As in...is there one?
I want to go back to a 2.2 ROM I particularly like, but I don't want to lose performance coming from the 2.2.1 ROM I'm currently on ...
Anyone have experience with both and want to weigh in?
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As in...is there one?
I want to go back to a 2.2 ROM I particularly like, but I don't want to lose performance coming from the 2.2.1 ROM I'm currently on ...
Anyone have experience with both and want to weigh in?
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I personally have never reallt noticed a performance difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1, I think they are too close to really notice. However the Vibrant had an official 2.2 drop so it would probably be closer to stock...
I will say I have been using Simpy Honey and CM7 alot and decided to give a few Froyo roms a go and the performance lose is very noticeable when leaving 2.3 for 2.2..
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I personally have never reallt noticed a performance difference between 2.2 and 2.2.1, I think they are too close to really notice. However the Vibrant had an official 2.2 drop so it would probably be closer to stock...
I will say I have been using Simpy Honey and CM7 alot and decided to give a few Froyo roms a go and the performance lose is very noticeable when leaving 2.3 for 2.2..
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Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
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Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
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Cm7 is better for gaming then froyo but touch wiz gb is slower an horrible fps is very jumpy an creates uncomfortable play
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Cm7 is better for gaming then froyo but touch wiz gb is slower an horrible fps is very jumpy an creates uncomfortable play
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Simply Honey is a Twiz based 2.3 rom and it is very smooth and hold a solid 58 fps for me at least.. infact its much more stable than CM7 as long as you get past the confusing install procedure..
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Thanks for responding!
Performance loss coming from 2.3? I've read that Gingerbread is more demanding on system memory and actually runs slower--at least in terms of gaming--than Froyo ...
Is that not so?
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Massive difference.. CM7 is very smooth and now that everything works it is a great choice. When I went back to a 2.2 rom I noticed the occasional screen scrolling lag and little things like that that you do not see on 2.3..
Note that every ones experience is different..
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Massive difference.. CM7 is very smooth and now that everything works it is a great choice. When I went back to a 2.2 rom I noticed the occasional screen scrolling lag and little things like that that you do not see on 2.3..
Note that every ones experience is different..
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+1 to this!
CM7 is a massive improvement over ANY 2.2 or 2.2.1 ROM. Give it a shot, it's great!
Is GPS fully working on CM7 now?
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Simply Honey is a Twiz based 2.3 rom and it is very smooth and hold a solid 58 fps for me at least.. infact its much more stable than CM7 as long as you get past the confusing install procedure
Well not in my experience an depends what game on 9mm with tweaks twiz roms are good but cm7 is just fast out of box
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creeve4 said:
+1 to this!
CM7 is a massive improvement over ANY 2.2 or 2.2.1 ROM. Give it a shot, it's great!
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i have only flashed 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms as I always thought the process of flashing a 2.3 or downgrading from 2.3 seemed confusing... messing with bootloaders and stuff??
is it not hard to flash from 2.2 to 2.3 or CM, or downgrading from 2.3/CM back to 2.2?
not trying to hijack thread, just figured this seemed like a good place to ask rather then posting a separate thread
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i have only flashed 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms as I always thought the process of flashing a 2.3 or downgrading from 2.3 seemed confusing... messing with bootloaders and stuff??
is it not hard to flash from 2.2 to 2.3 or CM, or downgrading from 2.3/CM back to 2.2?
not trying to hijack thread, just figured this seemed like a good place to ask rather then posting a separate thread
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You aren't hijacking the thread as I am interested in an answer to this as well.
I think installing CM7 sounds pretty easy as described below. Not sure about reverting back though ...
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32477-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-samsung-vibrant-v7101-10-oct-2011/
Ok so I was running gingerstreak 2.4.4 with gkernels latest 1.5, but twice in the past 2 days its reset itself and deleted all my data, luckily I had a nandroid backup so ive installed that as im at work and have no access to a oc right now, is this a common problem ?? Is there an easy fix or should I go back to stock? Im gettin really tired of having to reinstall all my apps, and stuff ovrr and over
Which rom is most suitable for stability and good gaming? Im now.back to dsc rom but dunno if ill stick with it
Any help is appreciated
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Like you, i have experimented with several ROMS/kernels over the duration of the Streaks (short) lifetime. Everytime i tried a ROM (Streakdroid included), id like it, but something would be missing...(ie. slow hardware acceleration, since i use my streak mainly for gaming).
I have pretty strict criteria for what i expect in a ROM. It must be 2.3 (gingerbread) based or above, it must be able to play 3D (gameloft) games WITHOUT lag, and it must have an OC kernel.
with Power_Rom Lite, i get everything that i want. quadrant scores are through the roof (2000+) with this 2.3.3 based ROM. No lag, quick boot, awesome ICS theme..everything i needed BUT gameloft games ran slow as hell. so then, i decided to mix & max a bit...so i flashed a new kernel over that rom: Power_Mod for GB ROMS v1. GREATEST DECISION I EVER MADE. Quadrant scores suffered a bit (down to 1400+) but now gameloft games run PERFECT with no lag
this combination of ROM/kernel works best for me....
If you really need stability, ask yourself if you really need Gingerbread. All the Gingerbread roms for the streak are still pretty experimental since it was never officially released. I've used pretty much every GB rom to date, but they have all had a few major issues (that all seem to rear their heads a week or two after their installed for some reason )
You may just want to go back to Froyo. Newest version of all the Froyo custom roms should have everything ironed out...
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You might also want to consider flashing the dsc 0.62b rom. I personally found it to be the best with no random reboots, no fcs whatsoever and equally good battery life.
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Rebooting to factory settings is different than the random reboots. I'm getting this as well and I suspect hardware. I may try going back to froyo, but chances are I'll be buying a Note soon.