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EDIT: I can't edit the thread title, but I meant "Official Sense 2.2" ...and also "choose" not "chose" .
Hi all,
Now that you can grab the official 2.2 ROM (thanks devs!!), what would you class the main reasons for running it, over something like Azure, which we've had for some time?
Please list your reasons here, as I really can't see the need to change from Azure?! This is what I can think of...
- For Sense
- For Radio (FM, etc)
- For working WiFi
Root can void warranty?
c_man said:
Hi all,
Now that you can grab the official 2.2 ROM (thanks devs!!), what would you class the main reasons for running it, over something like Azure, which we've had for some time?
Please list your reasons here, as I really can't see the need to change from Azure?! This is what I can think of...
- For Sense
- For Radio (FM, etc)
- For working WiFi
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During the last month and a half I have used Azure, CM nighlies and CM 6.1 RC1. Today I flashed the official 2.2 ROM update. I was very impressed by CM because of its speed and smoothness, especially CM 6.1RC1. The benchmark tests give almost identical results. Having in mind that CM is using the old .29 kernel I think it will get higher performance levels with the new .32 kernel. The only things I really miss on CM is the Sense dialer and the Sense weather widget. I really cannot tell which is better. The more ROMs available the better! I think it will be great if someone could implement dual-boot for the Legend
The obvious one being sense - I love it.
Working FM Radio, GPS, and Bluetooth (unlike most custom 2.2's I've used recently)
Working Market Place
Live wallpapers as standard
Better Radio (improved reception and wifi)
Ability to move programs to SD card without reformatting (a2sd)
Oh and the only program I used to root for is already built in - Flashlight! - its much better than any variants I've used before (3 light brightness settings etc).
oh and more HTC sensey widgets available too and WIFI hotspot program built in as standard
and I prefer the standard HTC keyboard instead of the bogstandard android one
Freedom of choice, ain't it great!
I like sense, I like not having to reformat my sd card to move apps. I tried launcher pro plus (bought it) and adw, bought beautiful widgets expecting more from it but was disappointed.
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TheLegendaryJay said:
Freedom of choice, ain't it great!
I like sense, I like not having to reformat my sd card to move apps. I tried launcher pro plus (bought it) and adw, bought beautiful widgets expecting more from it but was disappointed.
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Couldn't agree more. Also, having your wifi work is kinda nice.
Wifi is working loads better now, the new drivers are awesome.
I am actually not that impressed with the 2.2 update but I wasn`t expecting too much either.
The WiFi reception is great of course and a major plus. The camera is also very smooth and overall speed is superior to the old kernel. The list of official Froyo only features I need ends here though.
On the other hand...
- I don't mind reformating my SD Card to use App2SD
- I am not enough into FB or Twitter to "need" the Sense widgets
- Never used the FM radio before rooting and probably never will
- Already replaced the official keyboard with SlideIt
- I really hate not being able to clean up my app drawer
- The Froyo dock is ugly and lacks usability. LauncherPro and ADW are way better.
- I have freshly cleaned windows and my neck is flexible enough to check the weather myself. If I am already standing outside in the rain, I don't need my phone to tell me that my haircut is in danger.
- The flip clock is way too dominant for my taste. I prefer TypoClock's purity
- Pure Calendar Widget > HTC Calendar Widget
- Barnacle Wifi Tether works just fine. No urgent neccessity for the the official Hotspot feature. Other then that I don't mind using the USB cable to tether if I am already carrying the laptop with me. Wouldn't know who else to tether for anyways.
- No homescreen rotation with the official ROM
- I don't need 3 different settings for the flashlight. The one coming with Cyanogen is good enough. Just let there be light.
- CyanogenMod can be customized and has a lot of useful setting that you can't change with the official Froyo
Of course I am happy that we finally received the update but only to see the new kernel and radio (and maybe some other Froyo goodies) in one of the next CM releases.
c_man said:
EDIT: I can't edit the thread title, but I meant "Official Sense 2.2" ...and also "choose" not "chose" .
Hi all,
Now that you can grab the official 2.2 ROM (thanks devs!!), what would you class the main reasons for running it, over something like Azure, which we've had for some time?
Please list your reasons here, as I really can't see the need to change from Azure?! This is what I can think of...
- For Sense
- For Radio (FM, etc)
- For working WiFi
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-Offcial = stable. There will be no "not working/won't fix" list. It uses newest drivers, CM is still far behind.
-Everything in Sense is chained : Contacts ~ Facebook/Twitter/Flickr ~ Gallery ~ Calendar/Agenda ~ Clock/Weather
- Official Froyo Quadrant's pts = Azure's pts (800~900)
- And ofcourse, the infamous FM Radio rocks!
My biggest reason to use an official is Sense. I love the Clock widgets because I have several timezones to keep track of, and I love them to all be visible on my first home screen. I can see the time where I am in the status bar, my home in the USA, and for my girlfriend in Qatar. I could never find another app as good as HTC's clock when I was using CM-based ROMs.
The fact that whitetigerdk and Paul had the official ROM rooted in less than 24 hours after release gave me no reason not to move from Gratiend.
I like the stock ROM for few things. Have currently loaded Vodafone based ROM and no issues so far.
- Stable exchange connectivity (email APK in other custom ROMS stops working after couple of send/receive (push) - have tried almost everything. Maybe MoDoCo rom was kind of stable, but again it was based on the stock ROM.
- Wi-Fi tethering is perfect
- FM Radio
Finnally a stable and official rom
Yeah the main thing for me was getting exchange email working nicely.
Push mail (exchange) working fine on you guys' official froyo? I still find CM RC1 email apps to be better for my exchange push mail.
And actually one of the thing I missed the most from RC1 is notification power widget.
Official v.s. Custom
Hi,
I enjoy using the official rom because the GPS, FM Radio, Bluetooth, Wifi work. I use the FM Radio quite often. I prefer sense of the stock interface, everything just works nicely and fits in perfectly.
Regards
Remeez
My answer is short and simple: i won't switch to stock Froyo ROM no mather what happens
Now i'm running CM6.1 RC and extremely satisfied with. The only thing i'm missing is flash support.
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
I realised that stock HTC rom is better.
Androot STILL WORKS for softroots and give me the flexibility to do all i need to do with root access. (take snaps, clean cache, titanium backup, etc).
So while my country hasn't actually received the updates, i am looking forward to it.
True right now stock Froyo might be better. But when the cyanogenmod guys release gingerbread, that would be better.
The thing is that developers are always faster than HTC. Plus this might be the last update from HTC. Then stock will be far less than good enough.
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ebaak said:
True right now stock Froyo might be better. But when the cyanogenmod guys release gingerbread, that would be better.
The thing is that developers are always faster than HTC. Plus this might be the last update from HTC. Then stock will be far less than good enough.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
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Until then... Stock is better..
Sent from my HTC Legend
denisman said:
I am actually not that impressed with the 2.2 update but I wasn`t expecting too much either.
The WiFi reception is great of course and a major plus. The camera is also very smooth and overall speed is superior to the old kernel. The list of official Froyo only features I need ends here though.
On the other hand...
- I don't mind reformating my SD Card to use App2SD
- I am not enough into FB or Twitter to "need" the Sense widgets
- Never used the FM radio before rooting and probably never will
- Already replaced the official keyboard with SlideIt
- I really hate not being able to clean up my app drawer
- The Froyo dock is ugly and lacks usability. LauncherPro and ADW are way better.
- I have freshly cleaned windows and my neck is flexible enough to check the weather myself. If I am already standing outside in the rain, I don't need my phone to tell me that my haircut is in danger.
- The flip clock is way too dominant for my taste. I prefer TypoClock's purity
- Pure Calendar Widget > HTC Calendar Widget
- Barnacle Wifi Tether works just fine. No urgent neccessity for the the official Hotspot feature. Other then that I don't mind using the USB cable to tether if I am already carrying the laptop with me. Wouldn't know who else to tether for anyways.
- No homescreen rotation with the official ROM
- I don't need 3 different settings for the flashlight. The one coming with Cyanogen is good enough. Just let there be light.
- CyanogenMod can be customized and has a lot of useful setting that you can't change with the official Froyo
Of course I am happy that we finally received the update but only to see the new kernel and radio (and maybe some other Froyo goodies) in one of the next CM releases.
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Your speech sounds like pro linuxers over everything... maybe you don't need any goodies in your
Phone, so please buy a 3210 nokia then... weather in time widget is fun, useful sometimes and why not, we love to see our phones doing some eye candy. The way everything is linked is simply amazing... and maybe you don't use any social features.... but today people who want a smarphone is for social uses mainly.
Maybe a cell phone doesn't need radio feature 'per se ' but if the phone has, a why don't use it?? I'm sure more people than you think buy this phone because the radio....
Since I have my legend i install every rom was released and I loved them, but sense interface even tough if it swallow a lot of resources is a very good interface for a cell phone and it's copied in a lot of apps or widgets.... maybe your intention is not to be rude but you sound soooo rough....
Peace and long life for android...
Sent from my HTC Legend
Ive never been a fan of the mytouch line just because im a fan of vanilla android but someone offered me a trade the only reason why I would do it is because of the ffc, and are there any vanilla roms I can flash?
Considering the same swap. Need to get the wife a phone, so I'm passing on my G2 and getting a MT4G. It's a hard decision, as the G2 is now free with contract on the t-mobile site, but I'm not a keyboard fan and would rather have the slimmer phone with more RAM.
I would do it as long as you know for a fact that the MT4G works great and has the superior screen.
You can put on Cyanogens 6.1 on there, it's a RC but CM7 is coming along nice.
Other than that, there is a stock G2 rom for this too, it should be somewhere on the forums.
And I'm coming from a G2 myself so yeah, I really enjoy this phone. Took a couple days to get used to not having a keyboard but it's good from there on.
Oh and the battery life sucks compared to the G2, I remember I would get about 2 days with Cynaogens 6.1 rom, and even with the cyanogens rom on this, I get about 8-10hours with moderate to heavy usage...
I went from G2 also...i like the MT4G much better.
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Also came from the G2. The radio on the G2 was horrible.... I hated the sense version on the MT4G but i've now got normal sense on the phone and all is wonderful.....
I've owned both a G2 and MT4G (and a Nexus S)
and without a doubt the MT4G is the fastest and best.
If you can do without a keyboard go for it.
I had Swype on my Nexus One and thats all I've used for months now.
I didnt use the keyboard when I had a G2.
I like both phones, I have both. Mt4g is a tad bit better and we do have cm6 and cm7 runs great.
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going_home said:
I've owned both a G2 and MT4G (and a Nexus S)
and without a doubt the MT4G is the fastest and best.
If you can do without a keyboard go for it.
I had Swype on my Nexus One and thats all I've used for months now.
I didnt use the keyboard when I had a G2.
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This.
Keyboard on the G2 was nice, that and the fact that it's a G2, but the MT4G is a beast. NS was meh. Pretty to look at, and that's about it.
The MT4G is a superhero when it comes to hardware, and CM6 and CM7 are both stable enough to be daily drivers. I almost never use the FFC, but I know I wouldn't ever use the physical keyboard and I really like having the extra RAM. The physical buttons are a nice touch too.
Overall I'm in love with this thing, just make sure you read up on the good display vs. bad display issue. It's easy to test through Terminal with the DMESG command, root NOT required.
tdtylert said:
Ive never been a fan of the mytouch line just because im a fan of vanilla android but someone offered me a trade the only reason why I would do it is because of the ffc, and are there any vanilla roms I can flash?
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MT4G = very fast and powerful phone IF you get lucky, otherwise you will be plagued with the ****tiest quality control to date which can easily get you through 3-5 warranty exchanges.
You will also need a custom ROM to make it very fast and powerful, out of the box it has pissed poor battery life and gets real laggy.
Most custom ROMs have problems with FFC
G2 = Very fast and powerful and great battery life out of the box. The keyboard config make it kinda big and I go worst reception than with the MT4G by a tinny bit.
I didn't miss the extra RAM when I was using the G2, there's really no need for all that in Android.
I miss the keyboard, but not the bulk.
The part about plain Android not needing extra ram is true. On CM7 I usually about 400mb of free ram.
The MT4G with CM7 is the greatest phone I've ever used.
Evil ported the G2 ROM so you can use the exact same ROM with better hardware
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I did exactly this only yesterday and am extremely happy with my decision. This phone is allot quicker, no worrisome hinge and this screen I think is allot more enjoyable to look at! Also the only thing I used the keyboard for on the G2 was emulators!
speoples20 said:
The MT4G with CM7 is the greatest phone I've ever used.
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i have to agree fully.
Did the swap Wed. Wife is happy with the G2 as it just sits in a pouch in her purse. I'm actually faster typing on the Gingerbread soft keyboard, the phone is much thinner in the pocket and CM7 is running nearly perfectly (as long as you use Tango or Yahoo vs Qik for FFC video conferencing).
If I was sticking with stock, I would seriously consider sticking with the G2 though, as the MT4G ships with so much OEM crapware and Sense bloat, it's hard to even find your apps in the drawer (which looks like a lame iPhone rip because of the Sense ROM).
Hello Mates,
Some of you might be in here that I've dealt with in the past. I am new to Android, but did a good share of work in here with WinMo and just came back from iOS. My iphone was stolen and I was bored with it, so I have just ordered a HTC Wildfire. While it gets here I am wanting to ask some questions. Obviously i tweak all the phones I own (have a BB too) and wanted to know who can recommend a good ROM that for now that keeps the Sense UI, but has most of the garbage sorted out (Language packs, and other unneeded stuff) so I can start reading. Two years ago, there were perhaps 4 or 5 ROMS per WinMo device, I see the game has changed.
Paul
Well, from the list of Sense ROM's, I would recommend WildPuzzle or Sunnabh. I have used both (Not that others like DK/DS etc., so cant really comment), and, both are fine ROM's. WildPuzzle allows a bit more customization by way of more packages and stuff, and, Sunnabh allows for stability minded approach, but, its your call.
I would say, try out both, and use the one which suits you. Ultimately, have a look at CM7 as well, even though it doesn't have Sense, I was mighty impressed with it. (Initially, even I was more of a "Sense" user)
Finally, hope that your Wildfire does not come with 2.2.1 pre-installed. Else, you will have to hunt around for someone with an XTC Clip.
The best sense ROM imo is Wildpuzzle . I love the transparent status bar and lock screen, its fast and since its just a customized version of a stock rom everything works and its as stable as an elephant on 4 legs.
But if you want a ROM with a bit more customization and android 2.3 (wildpuzzle only have 2.2) CM7 is a very good ROM (mh, what could u expect, Jacob compiled it ). The only problem with it imo is the slow gallery (not sense gallery) and the videocam quality.
Moved to general
I moved away from sense a few months ago and started using CM7, definitely not planning on going back any time soon! It should definitely be your first option if you decide to look beyond sense.
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The only problem with it imo is the slow gallery (not sense gallery) and the videocam quality.
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Which version of CM7 are you using? RC2 has a much faster version of the gallery than it used to, or at least it does on my Wildfire?
After months of testing, I am now using Leaf r3 and it's the best I have ever tried.
ALWAYS stable, no freeze. It's almost stock FroYo ROM but Sense widgets and some useless apps that I hated have been removed (oh thanks).
In CM7, the font looks pixelated, much worse than in FroYo. I believe is a Sense thing. So, I took Leaf r3 and created a Gingerbread-style framework-res.apk and HtcResources.apk, combined with Metro homescreen.
Amazing!
Some Sense apps are much nicer than Stock android apps (specially Camera)
I installed ffc in my vibrant. Right now I can only use the back camera. What kind of app do I need to run to be able to use the ffc? My OS is official froyo 2.2 rooted.
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You need another ROM which supports FFC.
I am using CM7 and it does support. I recommend it if you don't mind having some problems (no GPS for example).
Yes you need a ROM that supports FFC. If you want to stay on Froyo then search.
If Gingerbread is an option, keep in mind that CM7 does not let you use your FFC with Google Talk. MIUI, by default, does. I prefer the looks of MIUI. None of the GB ROMS have a real GPS, only an assisted one, and there is no an app drawer in MIUI. Battery lives are comparable.
I thought I'd need new ROM, just wasn't sure. Thanks guys.
I am on latest Simply Galaxy 2.2.1 and it supports FFC in all apps as well as camera app. And it has no known bugs and very good battery life. Still waiting for complete GB build with GPS and all.
I have gone through the Q&A's threads so if any 1 can direct me to a link or an answer I will be very grateful
with every rom I try i notice that majority of them has a camera defect where the camera takes the picture after the flash goes off which results in a darker picture....is there a cure for this?
Don't have this problem on typhoon rom with lgcamera app
oo ok thanks....it was mostly with the roms that uses HTC Sense 2.1 or 3.0
Try a non sense ROM you will be amazed I used to use only sense ROMs got over a year but I really don't like the new sense 3.0 ROMs because of the camera problems and the graphic glitches so I switched to typhoon 3.6.0 I really live it, it is just so much better the only thing I had to get used to was finding some good widgets for replacing the sense widgets but they are out there so its a much more stable choice and faster and the camera works like a charm
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i really like the graphics with the sense roms...but i use my camera more than anything else, guess i can't have the best of both worlds