[Q] Slide out keyboard keys "peeling off" - Epic 4G General

I've only had my phone for a couple weeks and the "menu" key on the slide out keyboard.. is falling off. the keys seem to simply be glued onto the keyboard. What do you guys recommend? does this fall under some kind of warranty? any suggestions to fix/replace key/qwerty/phone are appreciated. THanks

If it's less than 30 days, I would just bring it back to the store... or contact whoever you bought it from.

If you have insurance just bring it back and exchange it.. after checking out the keys on me it seems like it would take a pretty good tug to get them off, looks like more then just glue.
Anywho if you don't have insurance there is a 30 day return or a mfgr warranty if you can prove you didn't do it yourself by treating it to rough or something..

i might just have to return it i guess... It came off pretty easily, i mean is stil glued in one corner so I avoid using the slide out as much as i can... and now i discovered that there's something wrong with the screen.... around the center of the screen there is no "touch" I. E when i turn it landscape to type with the touch keyboard i can't press the "Y" I downloaded an app to check it and it "jumps" when i touch in that area, there is no response... would this have to be dealt with by sprint or samsung?

I've had two do it. I rarely use the he keyboard too.
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yeah so i just got a new phone since i've only had the phone for about a week...

I got my phone from BestBuy Mobile, they have an incredible insurance plan, it's $10 a month, but covers EVERYTHING, even accidental damage (GF if I break it while rooting). Replacement is free of charge, no $100 down or hidden fees.

Return it
Return it, it is under 30 days...have them give you a new one. You spent good money on the phone and shouldn't have to have a sub-standard phone. Don't settle for them fixing it, demand a new one if they try to just fix it for you.

Yeah you just have to.wait 30 days for.them to fix it.
Overstew said:
I got my phone from BestBuy Mobile, they have an incredible insurance plan, it's $10 a month, but covers EVERYTHING, even accidental damage (GF if I break it while rooting). Replacement is free of charge, no $100 down or hidden fees.
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Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

As far as the Epic goes, TEP is great, either they give you the shell (everything but the mainboard) or a whole new phone... if they want you to wait for a shell to come in 3-5 days, depending on the fail, you can usually get them to swap for a brand new phone. They kept the battery and accessories but still, new phone... no repairs you might have to worry about... Samsung deals with that crap.

Overstew said:
I got my phone from BestBuy Mobile, they have an incredible insurance plan, it's $10 a month, but covers EVERYTHING, even accidental damage (GF if I break it while rooting). Replacement is free of charge, no $100 down or hidden fees.
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They don't cover lost or stolen.

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EVO 4G screen cracked, no insurance, what are my options?

My 1 yr old just grabbed my phone off my desk and threw it on the tile kitchen floor.
The screen is now shattered, but still in place and still functioning.
I have no insurance.
What are my options?
mdaddy said:
My 1 yr old just grabbed my phone off my desk and threw it on the tile kitchen floor.
The screen is now shattered, but still in place and still functioning.
I have no insurance.
What are my options?
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Cry?
I am so paranoid I bought the Radio Shack insurance AND the monthly insurance from Sprint. I am really sorry you are having this problem... I'm not really sure how you can fix it at this point. Maybe if you ordered one off the internet, MacGuyvered the screens (switch them) and then return the one you got on the internet... but that is very dishonest, not to mention difficult.
I had a similar situation, I called tm and made sure the person sounded nice and friendly. If they sounded like they hated their job I hung up. Usually if a guy thats polite answers that would be the best choice.
Now, just aks him/her if you can add the insurance to your phone. If they say its to late ask them what are your options because you want the insurance.
I was able to get hem to BACK date my purchse date and they added the insurance for me.
Add the TEP protection to your plan, wait a month and file a claim...not sure if you'll have to pay the deductible however that's one way
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Maybe try buying the OEM HD2 screen off of ebay and seeing if you can drop it in? Lol that's what I'd do...
If you paid by credit card, ie AMEX, you could file a claim through them possibly. Most credit cards automatically extend your warranty by one year.
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Maybe try buying the OEM HD2 screen off of ebay and seeing if you can drop it in? Lol that's what I'd do...
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That wouldn't work since the HD2 screen doesn't have the capacitive buttons. Call HTC and byte the bullet.
1. If you bought with AMEX, you get 90 days of accidental warranty and +1 year of extended warranty.
2. Commit insurance fraud, sign up for Sprint TEP, file a claim after your 30 day return period is up.
3. Buy a replacement Evo/possibly HD2 screen off ebay/net.
I seem to remember from the teardown pix that the buttons are a different component altogether and that the lcds are identical. Also it's probably only that glass that is shattered right? The glass screen is separate from the actual lcd underneath.
Thanks for all the great advice, it will definitely come in handy when I stop crying and set out to resolve this
I think with Sprint total protection, you can purchase insurance within 30 days of receiving your phone. Since the EVO is in its third week, you should be able to purchase. Just do it through the website. It's only $7.
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Cry?
I am so paranoid I bought the Radio Shack insurance AND the monthly insurance from Sprint. I am really sorry you are having this problem... I'm not really sure how you can fix it at this point. Maybe if you ordered one off the internet, MacGuyvered the screens (switch them) and then return the one you got on the internet... but that is very dishonest, not to mention difficult.
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You bought both sets of insurance are you serious?
I have 2 Visas that have a 90 day protection.
Call the credit card that you used to buy the phone, if you used one. I had an iPhone replaced for free once after I dropped it on concrete. Good Luck.
Man, I'm never going to have kids.
mdaddy said:
My 1 yr old just grabbed my phone off my desk and threw it on the tile kitchen floor.
The screen is now shattered, but still in place and still functioning.
I have no insurance.
What are my options?
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Check with Sprint, I know At&t gives you 30days to enroll in the insurance from the time of purchase.
This is why I keep my 1 year-old far, far away from my EVO.
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Fess up.
I never buy insurance on anything under $1000. If it breaks I will bow my head in disgust. Then I will go buy one at full price.
6 years of smart phones with no insurance x $7/mo x 12mo/yr = $504 saved.
Hopefully I didn't curse myself.
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Put in Microwawe
You have 1 year warranty just put in microwave for 5 sec it will fry the board and most likely screen. No more then 5 sec. You have 1 year warranty take it to the store and say what the hell its not working.
Get TEP and pay the $100 deductible for accidental damage. Best option you have!
I think with Sprint total protection, you can purchase insurance within 30 days of receiving your phone. Since the EVO is in its third week, you should be able to purchase. Just do it through the website. It's only $7.
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Yup you got 30 days from purchase date so just call them and add it.
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The truth on sprints new TEP program

ok, I know we already have a topic about sprints tep changes, but as I read through it I was so tired of reading all these assumptions and people stating incorrect things, so to clear it up. Also remember this may not be regional, I don't know how sprint is rolling it out, at least in the south east (im in NC) its all rolled out as of oct 23rd.
First off im a service and repair technician at a corporate store. We rolled this out on the 23rd (at least in the southeast, idk of other areas around the US)
pricing is still the same, 7$ a month. But now it covers almost everything except liquid damage, board damage, lost and stolen.
So if someone comes in with a completely shattered evo screen (as I saw 3 today), if they have TEP we replace it with a brand new screen, if we don't have one we exchange in store, if we don't have one, we order a replacement. Basically we now cover physical damage in store. The only time we don't is if its board damage, say the phone got ran over, obviously the board is destroyed. But as far as cracked screens, broken hinges etc... its all covered.
ALSO now for people that do not have TEP, before if they had physical damage we would charge them 120$ in store for repair, now its only 35$ to repair say a broken screen (good news!), except thats for every visit, sprint is now not authorizing the 1 year manufacturers warranty in store, so say your blackberry trackball pops out and you don't have TEP you can either pay sprint 35$ or go to blackberry. But the nice thing is its 35$ for ALL repairs, except the liquid, board damage etc..
I just felt the need to post this because I was tired of reading incorrect posts. Hopefully this makes sense, because I typed this in minor frustration lol. But I think this is great (for the customer, I see alot of phones now lol) But its REALLLLY putting value in sprints TEP now
So if any questions please ask away.
Thanks for clearing that up. I am switching to Sprint next week so this news has been welcomed.
good post ! tyvm
no problem. I hope this makes sense, I just went on a quick typing rant and haven't really read over it. But I think this REALLY adds value to TEP and makes it worth it. And to the people who said sprints technicians don't know anything they are worthless. Honestly.. Just because your local store may be bad, or not up to par doesn't mean they all are. At my store we try to be as fair as possible, but when someone comes in every 2 weeks for the same problem for the past 5 months, yeah we may refuse to repair, or notate the account for repeat offenders. But at the store and District I work in, we all do the best (also were the number 1 store for customer service in the District so that may help)
If you don't have insruance, does the phone need to be on your phone line? Lets say i have a phone in my cabinet with a broken screen, could i go and get it fixed for 35$?
For $35 I might just take the case off my EVO and let her run around naked!
Thanks for clearing that up! I live in the South east as well. +1
yes we can repair the phone but it has to be on the account, and active for atleast 30 days.
So I know this is off topic but how do technicians treat Evos with hosed 4g keys cause I want to root and pay $7 for insurance but fear hosing my 4g which I use.
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Great information, thanks. One question though: what if you do have liquid damage and you pay for TEP? What is the repair cost then? What about lost phones? Also, like already mentioned, what about rooted phones? This is insurance after all and not warranty.
I ask because I have Best Buy Black Tie Protection now' but with these changes to TEP I'm thinking about canceling the Best Buy plan and switching to TEP. Thanks for your info.
what about everyday wear and tear i have scratches from dropping my phone a lot on the bottom of the phone can that be fixed for free?
Is their insurance still through Asurion? I went ten years with never losing or damaging a phone and the one time I lost my HTC touch I was charged $100 for a piece of crap that had a busted speaker and a glitchy looking screen. And to top it off the girl at sprint who looked at my phone said the busted speaker wasn't too bad and that the speaker phone still worked fine...
I am not impressed with Sprint's insurance at all.
ok, well if liquid you go through asurion, 100$. Same for lost or stolen. As far as the 4g queston, not sure what you mean by hosed 4g?
and for the question about cosmetic damage, thats the one thing im not 100% sure about, I will have to get more info on that.
And yeah still through asurion. But now the only time you go through them is if;
liquid damage, lost, stolen, board damage.
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ok, well if liquid you go through asurion, 100$. Same for lost or stolen. As far as the 4g queston, not sure what you mean by hosed 4g?
and for the question about cosmetic damage, thats the one thing im not 100% sure about, I will have to get more info on that.
And yeah still through asurion. But now the only time you go through them is if;
liquid damage, lost, stolen, board damage.
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Hosed 4G means the RSA keys are damaged and it won't authenticate. Each phone has it's own key, so it's not something that could likely be fixed in store.
Would a phone get replaced under that circumstance?
hmm maybe since im not familiar with the term, But we have seen phones with 4g not connecting or not able to establish a connection and sometimes we have to exchange it (which thats covered), but lately we've been pretty good at restoring data to the devices but a pain in the ass, so exchanging is usually easier
i had a small crack on the top right of my phone (next to front camera) for a month now (a drunk drop getting out of the car)
it wasnt a big deal.
well yesterday i was holding my daughter and was taking my evo out of my pocket......it fell on the tile face down.
i picked it up and my screen was shattered but the phone still works.
anyway i went to sprint today and got a new screen put on my phone for free within 40 minutes. i also have the $7/mo insurance plan
best part is i have a CM6 root/rom on my phone and they didnt say a thing.
i have an 003 version and since the new screen was put on, no more light leakage either
I still don't understand why a customer needs to be charged $35 for warranty work though.
Shattered screen? yes
Defect in phone? no...should be a free repair if it's under the 1 year warranty
Well I know now after reading this Im happy I told Bestbuy to shove their insurance and switched back to Sprints !
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I still don't understand why a customer needs to be charged $35 for warranty work though.
Shattered screen? yes
Defect in phone? no...should be a free repair if it's under the 1 year warranty
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Your not. Call the manufacturers, use their warranty and take a month off without a phone.
exactly dirtyshroomz. Because yous till have the 1 year through company. But we will do things like software defects, and basic s/w based things at no charge

Hypothetically, how scratched a screen could you take w/o paying $100 for a replace?

I normally treat my electronics like newborns, with cases and screen protectors. However, I am one of the people that fried my keys while flashing a rom and lost my 4G forever. So I paid $100 and got a new Evo through Asurion.
The new Evo was naked, and I had a wedding to go to the same night I got it. Well, after I got hammered I have a vague memory of repeatedly dropping the Evo onto the concrete while trying to get into a cab. (I don't drink very often).
So I wake up in the morning with a scratched Evo screen. There are maybe like 10 scratches.
I want a new Evo so bad, I hate the scratches. But I just can't see shelling out another $100 in order to have a better screen again.
I thought I'd get opinions from the group to make sure that I'm not crazy. Or to prove that I am too anal, OCD, and crazy.
Thanks for any responses.
Like you, I treat my gadgets like little babies. As for scratched screens, I hate them too. But I don't think you need to pay the $100 through asurion.
Apparently, with Sprint's new repair policy, you can go into a store a pay a flat $35 and they'll replace your screen for you. Someone on this forum did that rather recently and didn't need to use their insurance. Do a search on the forums for scratched screen.
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Interesting! Thanks for the info. I'll swing by at lunch and check it out.
I dropped mine and chipped the biezel and just hardly chipped the corner of the screen, took it in and they replaced it for free with my TEP. just go in and pay the 30 bucks or whatever and have em replace it
Yeah, the wild card for me is that I have this old $4/month insurance plan that they don't even offer any more. I know that it covers replacement, but I don't know if it covers anything else.
Here's a link to the post I was telling you about earlier.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859560
Awesome. Thanks to all for your help. I have the $4 ERP plan. That means they'll only replace it for a $100 deductible, they won't repair it for "free." So I just paid the $35. He switched out the screen in like 10 minutes right in front of me. I didn't realize it would be that easy. It even replaces the bezel and everything.
Hardware 003. Epson, I think (since the auto-brightness "fades" instead of "steps.")
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Awesome. Thanks to all for your help. I have the $4 ERP plan. That means they'll only replace it for a $100 deductible, they won't repair it for "free." So I just paid the $35. He switched out the screen in like 10 minutes right in front of me. I didn't realize it would be that easy. It even replaces the bezel and everything.
Hardware 003. Epson, I think (since the auto-brightness "fades" instead of "steps.")
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Glad it worked out for you and you got your "baby" all nice and new again!

Mother's EVO went through the washer today - What do you think is the best bet?

Hey XDA Members,
So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
No warranty w/ sprint - after the AMEX accidental warranty.
Options I've come up with are...
-Buy one on clist for $325
-Buy a new one for $400 - $450
-Cancel a line at 16 months left - $160, and the other 2 lines monthly price would go up.
-Add a forth line + buy new EVO on that
-Buy a blackberry on clist - $140ish
What's your ideas?
Thanks!
No warrenty.... What about insurance?
Put it in the dryer...
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No warrenty.... What about insurance?
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That's what I meant by warranty/insurance. I told her to get it, but didn't want to pay for it, and it's $7 a month, then $100 for a referb phone.
If you want something like a blackberry curve you should be able to get one for a lot less than $140! not bad phones if you don't mind a super slow almost unusable web browser. Great physical keyboards (and cleanable trackballs They should be like half that price though!
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Pay the price.
wrb123 said:
If you want something like a blackberry curve you should be able to get one for a lot less than $140! not bad phones if you don't mind a super slow almost unusable web browser. Great physical keyboards (and cleanable trackballs They should be like half that price though!
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Yeah, she has one for work, so knows how to use it, but the one at work is a current bb curve w/ sprint, but the 3g doesn't even work.
"blackberry curve 8330" 33 new and used on amazon starting at ~$45.
and I was exaggerating a little about the browser, mobile pages and non-javascript sites load fine.
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So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
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Well if it just vibrates your Mom might still want it.
lol jk, sorry.
Really I would look for a cheap EVO in craigslist, they can be found cheap if it's a heavily used one but still working good.
Found a brand-new epic on craigslist for $300; that's better than the sole EVO on there for $325.
I would just get another one if you could afford it. 16 months is a long time to go without an Evo. But of course if money is a problem, then black berries really aren't all that bad.
does she really need the power of an evo????
what about something cheaper.. like a HERO..
yes it sucks.. but if you root it..
put on a good ROM... they have gingerbread!!!
it is a good phone for $100 on craigslist
or a LG Optimus S.. on craigslist..
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I would just get another one if you could afford it. 16 months is a long time to go without an Evo. But of course if money is a problem, then black berries really aren't all that bad.
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Well, she probably will. Chase has a credit card offer....$200 cash back after a first purchase, so signed up for that to buy a new phone and get it for $250, got approved instantly, but takes 2 weeks to get the card by mail. :|
Get a $20 phone til then, voice and text, and then appreciate the new phone even more after it can finally be purchased
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does she really need the power of an evo????
what about something cheaper.. like a HERO..
yes it sucks.. but if you root it..
put on a good ROM... they have gingerbread!!!
it is a good phone for $100 on craigslist
or a LG Optimus S.. on craigslist..
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Thought of this, but then stuck paying $10 extra a month for 4G...not that she used it in the first place. Probably needs the 4.3 inch screen or a slide out keyboard to text...so that's why I was thinking the blackberry, not the hero.
Did you try the rice trick? Put a cup of dry rice into a Ziplock bag. Take the battery out of the phone and place both into the bag. Seal it and leave it for 24 hours. It should pull all the moisture out. Pull it out, put it back together and then charge it.
Edit: Sorry... just read the part about the glass being broken. Well, I'll leave this trick posted here in case someone needs it in the future.
^^^ it is too late to try to the rice trick.. if you turn on the phone and it beeps at you!
and of course the broken screen
How long has she had it? If she had it for less than 30 days, could always call Sprint and add the insurance. You would have to wait like a week or so to put in the claim. Or you could call Sprint anyway and see if they could add the insurance anyway even if it is beyond 30 days. They might work with you. Or call Sprint and see if they have any refurbs for temp then add the insurance so if she gets another Evo, and something happens, she is covered. Insurance is always priority. I would never not add insurance to the line that contains a 600.00 phone. For example, I have had Sprint for a long time and have always had insurance on both of my lines. My Evo was stolen along with the charger and my 8GB card was in it. I immediatly called Sprint, reported my phone as stolen so they could restrict the phone to basically being a brick, they then transferred me to asurian where I paid the 100.00 deductible and they understood my phone was stolen. So instead of sending me a refurb and the card and charger, they sent me a brand new Evo in the OEM box and everything like charger and manuals were nice and wrapped. Brand spanking new. If I didn't have the insurance I would have been in the same boat as your Mom. But I would call Sprint and see what they can work out for you. But ADD insurance to the line.
How bout getting your mom a cheap $10 pre-paid phone since she isn't smart enough to NOT wash a $300 phone, especially when she's too cheap to have insurance on it...
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Hey XDA Members,
So, my mom washed her EVO today, which broke the glass and screen; all it does it vibrates when you turn it on, but no lights/screen/sound after that, so basically dead.
No warranty w/ sprint - after the AMEX accidental warranty.
Options I've come up with are...
-Buy one on clist for $325
-Buy a new one for $400 - $450
-Cancel a line at 16 months left - $160, and the other 2 lines monthly price would go up.
-Add a forth line + buy new EVO on that
-Buy a blackberry on clist - $140ish
What's your ideas?
Thanks!
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Take the phone to a Sprint store and hope that some one there takes mercy upon you and helps you get some kind of deal. If you're met with a no, keep trying, don't loose your cool and be prepared to spend an hour or two. Run options like canceling the current EVO line, then getting a new line with the reduced EVO price. Take your mother with you, get her a cane with a white tip.

T-Mobile Vibrant replacement cost lowered

I found out some info from TMO customer care yesterday that is interesting and worth knowing.
TMO cut the cost to replace a rooted vibrant down to $115 on April 1st, but the insurance still costs $130. So if anyone finds themselves in my situation (totally and utterly bricked in every sense of the word and still rooted) or a similar situation, it would actually be cheaper to just send it in without insurance, even if the damage indicator is red.
However, if they don't get the phone back within 7 days, then the price is still $455 to replace the phone.
This info is for T-Mobile USA. I have no idea if international branches of T-Mobile have adopted the same policy, and I have no idea if this applies to other phones as well (I am just restating what the customer care rep told me.)
So I can crack my screen completely and it will only cost 115 still? Or is that just for rooted devices? Because if you hard-brick the device, TMobile has no way of knowing that it was rooting considering they can't even turn it on.
Also just got mail that the insurance is increasing by $2 to $7.99 but you get free Mobile Security from Asurion included in that....Samsung Vibrant is only included in PLAN D of the insurance which is $130 deductible and a claim limit amount of $1000.
Confused. So hypothetically if I destroy my phone to the point it doesn't even power on, I can call them and send it in to get a refurb one for $115?
Does it apply only if its bricked? If it's broken physically...like screen or something internal, can I still do that?
Mine says LOSS THEFT DAMAGE or MALFUNCTION...Drop in water COVERED..Keypad stop working COVERED..etc etc..
Okay, I can see how my 1st post could have been a little confusing. Here's what you should do if you need to send in your vibrant.
First and foremost, if you CAN flash back to stock, DO IT. That is still the only sure-fire way of not having to pay anything and still get a new/refurbished Vibrant out of it.
Second, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has hardware damage (red damage indicator, damaged screen, exc.), but can still be repaired. So, if your phone has a cracked screen, for example, it's a better idea to send it in without insurance because insurance costs $130 plus an additional $8 per month. (NOTE: The FFC mod is an irreversible mod. You have cracked open the phone and therefore T-Mobile considers that "physical damage." You cannot swap out the camera for the stock one and re-paint the camera hole and lens.)
Third, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has been rooted or modded in any way in terms of software.
However, the chances of T-Mobile finding anything out about software modification is unlikely. At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator. After they have done that, what they are SUPPOSED to do is attempt to find any data on the internal SD card that would reveal whether the phone was rooted or not (working superuser app, exc.). However, this process is long, tedious and boring as hell so what a lot of employees do is just skip the part where they examine the internal SD card and just format the thing without looking at it. To prove it, when I sent in that hard-bricked vibrant, it had a GT-I9000 bootloader on it plus CM7 and numerous ROM.zip files on it. I was not charged anything for that Vibrant.
Moral of the story: Don't buy the insurance for the Samsung Vibrant under any circumstances. Unless it goes down in price (which I seriously doubt it will), it is a complete waste of money. You will save money by going uninsured. Also, don't freak out if your Vibrant has software on it that you can't get rid of for some reason. In all likelihood, T-Mobile won't find anything.
Second moral of the story: DO NOT think that you will only get charged $115 if you choose NOT to send the broken Vibrant back to T-Mobile. They will charge you the ridiculous amount of approximately $455.18.
P.S. If anyone finds out the way that T-Mobile is able to open up the phone without tripping the damage indicator, PLEASE TELL US! If that info gets out, then I will do that FFC mod so fast you won't know what hit you!
I just walked in my tmobil store and told them my phone was messing up. And they sent me a new one. No cost at all to me except for that 8.00. So in my opinion insurance is good. For us if we have the old insurance is fantastic.
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Do you get a brand new phone as a replacement if you have insurance?
Refurbished, most likely previous phones that were sent in from people like yourself and fixed up.
yah mine was refurbished, but brand spanking new! in my opinion the insurance is the best deal tmobile has!
I actually prefer the refurbished units since they are actually tested and everything should work on it (including GPS, mine locks 8 birds within 3 seconds).
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Okay, I can see how my 1st post could have been a little confusing. Here's what you should do if you need to send in your vibrant.
First and foremost, if you CAN flash back to stock, DO IT. That is still the only sure-fire way of not having to pay anything and still get a new/refurbished Vibrant out of it.
Second, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has hardware damage (red damage indicator, damaged screen, exc.), but can still be repaired. So, if your phone has a cracked screen, for example, it's a better idea to send it in without insurance because insurance costs $130 plus an additional $8 per month. (NOTE: The FFC mod is an irreversible mod. You have cracked open the phone and therefore T-Mobile considers that "physical damage." You cannot swap out the camera for the stock one and re-paint the camera hole and lens.)
Third, T-Mobile will charge you the $115 if they find that the phone has been rooted or modded in any way in terms of software.
However, the chances of T-Mobile finding anything out about software modification is unlikely. At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator. After they have done that, what they are SUPPOSED to do is attempt to find any data on the internal SD card that would reveal whether the phone was rooted or not (working superuser app, exc.). However, this process is long, tedious and boring as hell so what a lot of employees do is just skip the part where they examine the internal SD card and just format the thing without looking at it. To prove it, when I sent in that hard-bricked vibrant, it had a GT-I9000 bootloader on it plus CM7 and numerous ROM.zip files on it. I was not charged anything for that Vibrant.
Moral of the story: Don't buy the insurance for the Samsung Vibrant under any circumstances. Unless it goes down in price (which I seriously doubt it will), it is a complete waste of money. You will save money by going uninsured. Also, don't freak out if your Vibrant has software on it that you can't get rid of for some reason. In all likelihood, T-Mobile won't find anything.
Second moral of the story: DO NOT think that you will only get charged $115 if you choose NOT to send the broken Vibrant back to T-Mobile. They will charge you the ridiculous amount of approximately $455.18.
P.S. If anyone finds out the way that T-Mobile is able to open up the phone without tripping the damage indicator, PLEASE TELL US! If that info gets out, then I will do that FFC mod so fast you won't know what hit you!
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Well I didn't get insurance to replace my phone in case of damage via rooting. I got insurance to repalce my phone if I lose it, drop it in water, or if it gets stolen.
Also, what damage indicator are you talking about?
anthonys2r said:
Refurbished, most likely previous phones that were sent in from people like yourself and fixed up.
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Thanks, I have the insurance but haven't used yet. If you get a refurbished phone after paying deductible then its not with it for me, might just cancel mine
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SamsungVibrant said:
Also, what damage indicator are you talking about?
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it's the liquid damage indicator. it's the white square underneath the battery right by the battery connection. it turns red if it gets wet.
VICosPhi said:
Thanks, I have the insurance but haven't used yet. If you get a refurbished phone after paying deductible then its not with it for me, might just cancel mine
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If you pay deductible, you get a new phone not refurb. Only time you might get refurb is when you do a warranty exchange. Warranty exchanges are at no cost. Insurance is 7.99 a month but like any insurance, its there in case you need it. You loose, break, get it wet or it gets stolen then you are covered. Just like car insurance, you could pay insurance for years and never use it, but then again if you are in a wreck or it gets stolen, then you are happy u did. Without insurance, you are screwed. Remember warranty is only for a year w/o extended warranty. Insurance extends your warranty for life of phone
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+1 on what he said!
funeralthirst said:
it's the liquid damage indicator. it's the white square underneath the battery right by the battery connection. it turns red if it gets wet.
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I know about the liquid indicator, but that's not what 30000 was talking about. 30000 was talking about a different damage indicator.
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30000 said:
At the T-Mobile processing center, they have some magic way of taking out the internal SD card without triggering the damage indicator.
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What damage indicator?
Marvlet said:
If you pay deductible, you get a new phone not refurb. Only time you might get refurb is when you do a warranty exchange. Warranty exchanges are at no cost. Insurance is 7.99 a month but like any insurance, its there in case you need it. You loose, break, get it wet or it gets stolen then you are covered. Just like car insurance, you could pay insurance for years and never use it, but then again if you are in a wreck or it gets stolen, then you are happy u did. Without insurance, you are screwed. Remember warranty is only for a year w/o extended warranty. Insurance extends your warranty for life of phone
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This is not true, there is a 95% chance that you will get a refurb. All T-mobile reps will tell you that you will either get a refurbished or new device. They will also tell you right after that, that you will most likely get a refurb. I've talked to them for hours and fought with supervisors and such just trying NOT to get a refurb. I know most people think that the refurbished phones are inspected, this is also a load of bs. They are not inspected, they fix the problem that was there and make sure that and ONLY that is fixed. They do not check any other part of the phone.
mugenfiji0327 said:
This is not true, there is a 95% chance that you will get a refurb. All T-mobile reps will tell you that you will either get a refurbished or new device. They will also tell you right after that, that you will most likely get a refurb. I've talked to them for hours and fought with supervisors and such just trying NOT to get a refurb. I know most people think that the refurbished phones are inspected, this is also a load of bs. They are not inspected, they fix the problem that was there and make sure that and ONLY that is fixed. They do not check any other part of the phone.
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Insurance and warranty exchange are 2 different things. With warranty exchange its new or refurb, cant guarantee one or the other. Most times its refurb. With insurance which is NOT thru T-mobile but thru Assurion, when you file a claim and pay the deductible, you get a new phone.
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Marvlet said:
Insurance and warranty exchange are 2 different things. With warranty exchange its new or refurb, cant guarantee one or the other. Most times its refurb. With insurance which is NOT thru T-mobile but thru Assurion, when you file a claim and pay the deductible, you get a new phone.
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Nope failed again. I will call Asurion right now and go through the process of having my phone replaced and record it just to prove it to you if you would like me to. They do not send out new products man, I know this for a fact. Think about it man, if they sent out new devices everytime someone called in for a problem, none of the companies involved would make any money on that phone which is what they want, MONEY. That includes T-mobile, Asurion and Samsung. Every electronics store I have ever bought from uses them as their insurance program. Best Buy,Verizon,T-Mobile etc. Every time I've had something replaced through any of those companys it has and ALWAYS WILL BE a refurb. I work for Verizon and guess what, everytime someone comes in for us to call Asurion for them or even if they call themselves they still get a REFURB. I used to work for Best Buy and on top of that I worked in the Geek Squad for Best Buy and did most of the insurance claims when people came through. Guess what, all of my customers got REFURBS. I'm done arguing with you and I think I have made my point.

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